J.P Dumont to sign with Nashville Predators
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The speculation is finally over and as expected J.P Dumont will not be a Montreal Canadien.
Le Journal de Montreal and RDS report that Dumont has signed a deal with the Nashville Predators. A team that wasn’t high on most peoples radar screen since Nashville is nowhere close to Quebec or the Northeast where Dumont apparently wanted to start his family.
The terms
are undisclosed[update: $4.5 Million/2 years] as of now but probably include the best financial offer Dumont received as it was rumored he had offers from strong teams like Detroit and Ottawa.Money aside, Dumont will be a good fit in a speedy and dangerous Nashville offence which now includes Jason Arnott, Steve Sullivan, Paul Kariya, Josef Vasicek and David Legwand.
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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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August 29, 2006 am31 11:56 am
Sorry, this doesn’t have anything to do with Dumont, other than good luck and I hope this doesn’t come back to haunt the Habs. THis is for the person running this site. I tried four times to log so I can chat with fellow hab fans. I filled in the areas (e.g. name, email addie, etc…) and I was told to expect an email with a password. So, what’s up? I didn’t receive anything. Four time!?!??!!!?? Look into this please!!!
August 29, 2006 am31 12:23 pm
As I have posted before, hockey market or not, Nashville is a great town to see a game: arena is in the middle of the bar/club district, walking distance to hotels, never snows, etc. Have consistently put an entertaining product on the ice. Beats the hell out of all other Southern American nhl towns.
August 29, 2006 am31 12:41 pm
…and they are starting to put together a serious team.
August 29, 2006 am31 12:53 pm
Rumors says he will get 2 millions first year and 2.5 second year.
Was it really hard in montreal to offer the same thing ? Was it possible to make a 2million marge for a guy like this for the canadian ? Well, either Gainey wasn’t able to, or he didn’t want him or tought he needed some money aside to make trade during the season to get better players and exchange some.
Well, Nashville lost a really good goalie this off-season but they have a serious team on attack, it should be great for Dumont.
August 29, 2006 am31 1:41 pm
Word is 4.5M for two years. He did well finding a good salary range with ateam where he can play on the top two lines.
With Montreal I think he was headed towards the third, and his talent and salary demand would not have been in sinc with that type of role. It’s unfortunate.
Montreals top 4 wingers as it stands are Ryder, Higgins, Kovalev and Samsonov. How would Dumont unseat any of those. Had Samsonov not been signed, the Habs would have jumped on J.P. as if he were a gift from heaven.
As things stand, I would not have wanted Higging’ progression slowed due to the signing of Dumont. It would have created some turbulance on the team, but would have been ideal with any injury scenario.
It’s all a question of depth versus capping out. Possibly Gainey has other avenues we will not hear about until they are done deals. Who knows?
Last week in the Journal de Montreal, Bertrand Raymond wrote his usual honest take on the Dumont situation. It was quite revealing and surprisingly pointed. I enjoyed it so much, I transcribed it into english and posted it on my blog. Here the link if you care to check it out. It’s called “Bob Gainey’s Hot Potato”.
http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2006/08/bob-gaineys-hot-potato.html
August 29, 2006 am31 4:20 pm
With all due respect to Habs fans, I think it’s highly probable that J.P. made the choice for the Preds because he, like a lot of others believe this is a team making a serious move for Cup contention.
In addition to newcomers Arnott, Vasicek, and now Dumont to join Kariya, Sullivan and Erat, the Preds have possibly the next Ovetchkin-type young Russian winger in rookie Alexander Radulov, who absolutely tore up the QMJHL last season, his second in North America, scoring 152 points for the Québec Remparts.
Even if Radulov needs an extra season in the minors (AHL/Milwaukee), things really look good for the Preds, if not in 06-07, then certainly for the following season.
Can’t help but be excited to be a hockey fan in Nashville.
Best of luck to the Habs this season!
And BTW, J-Nic said the Preds lost a goalie? Who does he mean? Although he did miss the playoffs with a somewhat mysterious blood disease, #1 goalie Tomas Vokoun has now been given a clean bill of health and will be ready to start the season. His backup, Chris Mason was re-signed, and Pecca Renne remains their top prospect in goal at Milwaukee, so what has changed?
August 29, 2006 am31 4:24 pm
Higgins could have easily been put between Kovalev and Samsonov, as he is a natural centre.
Now we’re stuck with Bonk and Ribeiro. Chipchura could have replaced Bonk no problem.
Not-so-great move Bobby, keeping those 2 guys around is inexcusable.
August 29, 2006 am31 5:53 pm
AJ in Smashville : “nd BTW, J-Nic said the Preds lost a goalie? Who does he mean? Although he did miss the playoffs with a somewhat mysterious blood disease, #1 goalie Tomas Vokoun has now been given a clean bill of health and will be ready to start the season. His backup, Chris Mason was re-signed, and Pecca Renne remains their top prospect in goal at Milwaukee, so what has changed?”
Sorry I tought Vokoun future was uncertain, but looks like I was wrong.
stevejur : If you put Higgins with Kovalev and Samsonov, where will Koivu play ?
I am sure Bob tryed to exchange Bonk, but who wnat a guy like him, with his salary, no one. For Ribeiro, I don’t know, he didn’t got a great year, his value dropped from last summer and he is not so well know in the league. So we are stuck with Bonk until the end of the season, Bob could have bought his contract but that would have effect on the Canadian salary cap, but leave some place for rookies, and may be Bonk refused cause he know his carreer will probably end after this season.
For Ribeiro, I don’t know what will happens with him. Unless he play good this year and get exchange, or he play really really good and stay with the habs we won’t see him again.
I think Bob did great for some players, but giving a BIG contract to Koivu before the end of the year and signing some sort of “useless” players with small contract at the beginning of the summer wasn’t really good IMO. These players are easy to get, and it’s not like if other teams really wanted them, they won’t play much in a season either and the money there would have been avaible for other players or exchanges in the futur.
August 29, 2006 am31 6:13 pm
Anyway you look at it, this is another year where the Habs will lose out to the larger now grinding style of hockey. With Kovalev only working hard when the team does, Montreal does not have a leader.
Nor do they have size up front to rush the other goalie or, size to beat the larger, dirty style of hockey in the new NHL. None the less I look forward to watching Samsonev getting penalties at the worst time, between Samsonev and Souray, Montreal is headed towards a lacklustre season…..
August 29, 2006 am31 6:18 pm
Where do you get the ‘dirty style of hockey in the new NHL’ ? The rule changes and penalty enforcement have changed it to the exact opposite of what you just said. Where speed and skilled gets to showcase itself and slow ‘dirty’ large defenders are losing their jobs.
August 29, 2006 am31 9:21 pm
AJ in Smashville who cares about the Preds,,,,I really don’t give a damn.This is the Habs my friend and ANTHING is possible.”dirty style of hockey in the new NHL” No leadership.We get some weird ,ignorant comments on this site from time to time:=)
August 29, 2006 am31 9:28 pm
We never had a chance! our team really stinks! We aren’t going to make the playoffs with a bunch of over priced, under achiever, lazy european players! also , we aren’t tough enough(especially with all our little midgets)!Gainey really blew it! We desperately needed another center; instead Gainey signs the most irritable, cocky, under achiever, over priced midgert-RIBEIRO! HE STINKS!Gainey, it’s time for you to relearn what it takes to make a good team! Koivu is one of the most over priced under producing players! When has he ever scored at least 30 goals?-NEVER,pathetic! Bonk-RIDICULOUS! How much does he make per season-2 or 3 million? for what-GARBAGE! Huet-a flash in the pan! Our team is going no where! I love what Gretzky did! He is really trying to make his team better! too bad Gainey has a bunch of lazy players!
August 29, 2006 am31 10:07 pm
Too bad that the guys Gretzky went out and got are all really slow, injury prone, or over the hill slapshot.
Gainey’s building this team on speed, not size, and that’s what win’s in the new NHL.
Is Ribeiro underacheiving? yes, and he’ll probably be gone after this season and guess what no one else wants him, Bonk has turned out to be a solid number four centre and since no one else want him at his price were stuck with him. And Koivu’s the guy who set’s up the goals, not scoring them. Who do you think assisted on all on Higgins and Ryder’s goals?
This team will be a cup contender in 1-2 years. And if Huet does turn out to be a flash in the pan, why do you think they kept Aebishcer?
Looking at the options they had to deal with in the offseason with the salary cap which a lot of people seem to be forgetting, and the fact that Gainey is being smart by leaving 3 million in room so he can make additions during the season, he’s done a good job.
August 29, 2006 am31 11:00 pm
I agree with you 100% habs#1
August 29, 2006 am31 11:57 pm
I agree with Habs#1
But I think Gainey got stuck in the goalie part. He wanted to keep Aebischer for security but was hopping to exchange him if Huet play well, but every team have good goalies now and some others are still avaible so he will probably stay here all season, then we gonna lose him for nothing in return :(.
I think no one tought, including us and Gainey, that all teams would have their goalies when the season start. May be it will change during the season !?
August 30, 2006 am31 2:50 am
on the same note as Habs#1 said: i’m glad that gainey didn’t way overpay some UFA just because of who the are (example Chara).
as for the huet/aebischer situation, i for one have no clue what will happen. if huet continues to perform at the .930 level the abby is gone to some team that their golie chocked/got injured and we’ll get something decent for him. if it truns out that huet was lucky then he’ll be sent away to a non-playoff team for something half-assed.
August 30, 2006 am31 7:12 am
The goaltender situation is a nice play by Gainey. If Aebishcer plays well we gain ( trade bait for someone we may need in the playoffs??) and it is great protection if Huet faulters.A lot of people forget Aebishcer is a GOOD goaltender.I believe this season he will show his stuff.If he doesn’t break out the way he should a nice backup.
August 30, 2006 am31 2:19 pm
Like many folks, I wasn’t high on Ribeiro last season. I was more impressed by his 2004 season. Last year he developed some annoying tendencies and they hurt his play. What people seem to forget is that this guy is still quite young and he possesses a ton of hockey smarts. Look over his junior stats again. He needs some big time maturity. Once he grows up and learns what it is to be a pro, he will develope into a much more complete player.
It comes back to what Gainey said when he initially took over the team. That it is simpler to “grow” the players within an organization than to go out shopping for what other teams are unwilling to part with. It is also cheaper!
In an organization that will become a winner, you must teach as well as coach. You must guide and groom players as they come up.
With the change in the NHL’s game last season, many including myself, pegged Ribeiro for a breakout year. I’m sure he did himself. He seems to be very disappointed in his season and I don’t think he saw eye to eye with Julien. If he is a proud player, an honest man, and a competitor, he will step it up. He has Kovalev and Samsonov as wingers - a dream. As he is unselfish with the puck, they should succeed.
Indeed, it will be his final chance. He must mature!