Garth Murray on waivers.
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Carbonneau’s first drastic measure was putting Garth Murray on waivers.
Personally I’m a Murray fan, but it’s hard to argue with his production. 0 goals.
Then again, was it his job to score?
If the Habs don’t get bombed in Ottawa is Murray still here?
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93 Comments

January 16th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Garth Murray came on last year towards the end and I thought he’d really have something to show this year as a 3rd-4th line pest a-la-Begin, knocking **** around and scoring those beautiful garbage goals (like the one Aaron Downey scored two weeks ago) but, yeah, ZERO goals is ZERO goals and he’s invisible most games. He’ll have fun in Hamilton, I think Downey is the more effective of the two so I’m glad it Murray not Downey sent away.
January 16th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Izzy you should be able to post email me if you still cannot
January 16th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
Murray even managed to make his way onto the third line with his play last spring which was a real reward for his play. BUt he has stunk on several nights this year and his confidence has looked very low. This was a move Carbo had to make and if it gets worse for us more notable characters will follow.
IF Carbo really wanted to make a statement he would put RIvet on waivers. WHy?
1. Because he really deserves to be demoted at this point. no arguments
2. NO one would take him anyways
3. HIs salary demands are outrageous and would bring his agent back to earth
4. IT would be a real wake up call for all of his frinds and teammates
5. It would prove you cant get a spot on this club just for being a leader
6. HE has been so awful that I am starting to laugh each time he touches the puck. ALthough its more of a hysterical laugh.
January 16th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
I think this move leads to speculation that a possible trade is in the works. As well, it also makes room for either a call up from Hamilton,or it could, and probably means Begin is ready to return to the lineup.
I never liked Murray, a total waste of $$$, and I hope Downey is next to be put on waivers, another total waste of $$$.
C’mon Carbo, show your players you aren’t willing to tolerate their lousy play any longer. Show them who the boss is!
January 16th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
I think Carbo is clutching at straws, he knows his time is up, wouldn’t be suprised if the shareholders are waiting until the summer to can Gainey and Carbo, unless they pull a magic trick outa the hat and force these great players we have to play well, great. Honestly we have snipers in Souray and Ryder, great movers like Koivu and Kovalev, and young upstarts like Lapierre and Gui…..
January 16th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
It’s a statement. You can’t put Samsonov on waivers…but you can damn sure put Murray there. Wake up call for the team. I’d be surprised NOT to see some bigger names watching from the press box tonight. For what its worth, Montreal is still a better team than it was last year.
January 16th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
Boy if we have to include Souray (who’s a D-man) as one of our snipers we’re in trouble.
As for Ryder love the guy but a soccer net won’t help him.
We do not have one pure goalscorer like:
Kovalchuk, Nash, Heatley, G.Murray, Cheechoo, Havlet etc.
Those are goalscorers not Souray and Ryder, Pleaseeeeeee!
Hey maybe with a little luck Downie might get 5 goals this year, what a sniper.
January 16th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Joshtm, the Canadiens would never get rid of Gainey. He is too smart a GM for them to fire him. They might fire (President)Pierre Boivin but not Gainey. I do not know where you get off thinking that Gainey is going anywhere. If anything, a number of the players who aren’t doing **** will be on the first bus out of town if they don’t start playing better. Carbonneau needs to light a fire under Kovalev’s *** and get him to start producing. I agree they should get rid of Samsonov because it doesn’t matter what line they put him on, he just isn’t producing. He is a major bust and we all know it. They need a sniper and Gainey knows this. He is just going to give them a few more games to get off their asses and start playing better or else there will be some changes. Getting rid of Murray was a good thing but they need to get rid of some of the other garbage like Rivet, Downey, etc. They should keep Aebischer because if Huet struggles or gets hurt, we have no capable backup right now. Carey Price is still about 2 or 3 years away from coming to the NHL, but if we want to be competitive, we need a good goaltender. The #1 need is a sniper and another defenseman. If they achieve both either at or before the trade deadline, they can challenge for 4th place in the conference but they need to get rid of something in return. Anyone know who we can get rid of to get a sniper? Also, I know some of you have said that free agents do not want to come to Montreal because of the high taxes and other issues but we might be able to acquire some of them via a trade but we need to get rid of some players to fill some of those holes and give us some depth. Anyways, hopefully the Habs can win tonight!
Ziyad
January 16th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
let’s stop talking about how the team is doing bad or has to improve or just wait and relax- they will improve.
Soooooo….. Any new rumour?
January 16th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
BTW, Ziman, we do have capable backup goalies in Hamilton. Danis is available, and so is Havlak(the best goalie in the AHL now). There’s no reason why we shouldn’t release Aebischer, but who would want him? you did see the 2 soft goals he let in last night, costing us the game, right? every time he plays, we lose the game. He shouldn’t be allowed to play another habs game.
Don’t worry, Carbo has eyes. He knows exactly who isn’t giving an all out effort. Changes are forthcoming. Everyone, including TSN broadcasters are aware of the fact that Aebischer let in 2 bad goals, and there was no offence.
So you make your bed, and then you have to lie in it!
January 16th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Well this won’t really make a difference. I doubt any of the Russians or Rivet are going to go ‘Oh man, they put a fourth line guy who makes the league minimum on waivers. Better step up my game!’
Did you see Sammy when he was benched. He looked like he didn’t give a **** that he got benched. He was just sitting there waiting for his next paycheck. I heard that he might be a healthy scratch tonight and I hope that’s true. Let him sit around in the press box instead of the ice.
And judging what Pierre McGuire said on the Team 990 today I hope Gainey makes a strong push for Scott Gomez since he wants to come to a hockey market with and up and coming team, which the Habs are no matter what anyone says. Although he might chose Edmonton or Calgary, maybe even Van city(Vancouver), because it’s close to home(he’s from Alaska).
I didn’t know that Markov had moved his entire family out to Montreal. And now that he’s taken out a canadian citizenship it’s only a matter of time before he inks a long contract extension with the Habs.
January 16th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Just another reason I love Carbo. This is the first coach the Habs have had in years that has the intestinal fortitude to bench veteran players. Let alone the teams third highest paid player(samsonov) and an assistant captain(Rivet or ‘the new Brisebois’).
Then, as Izzi said, RDS reported that Rivet stormed out of the Bell Centre Jeremy Roenick style like a little baby. Obviously he didn’t want to admit he was playing poorly. And he wanted a raise.
Look for both of them to be gone within either the next month and a half(till the trade deadline), or most definitly the summer.
January 16th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
It is true that Rivet, after getting the news of his scratch tonight, stormed out of the Bell center.That’s great news, because you know Gainey won’t let him act in such a manner, and it usually means-”you’re gone from Montreal”. I hope they get rid of him. Also, I commented last night, that Maybe Carbo is losing this team, and that they are starting to tune him out. That was also reported on the local tv channel here. as well reported, that Carbo might be acting too aggressively toward this losing streak. But I think he is acting appropriately. If you give players an inch, they will take a mile!
Samsonov also agrees that the media is on him, and has been from the beginning of the season. if he scored goals, then of course nobody would bother him. Man, is he stupid, or what? So now we have a bunch of underachievers who aren’t willing to go to the wall for their coach. stay tuned. If the habs lose tonight, I shudder to think of the consequences. Carbo is certainly not afraid to speak his mind, and take action.
January 16th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
I forgot to mention 1 thing. i of the local sports broadcasters asked Carbo why he didn’t bench Kovalev, and he replied: ” I know Kovalev’s personality.If I bench him, he will never come back and give me a good game again”. So it looks like management is intimidated by Kovalev, and that’s why he is allowed to get away with murder. Carbo probably never criticizes his play or scolds him. What a jerk! Do we want that prima donna, (who thinks he’s above everyone else) playing for us? Get rid of that piece of garbage, now!
Do you guys see all the bad passes he makes in his own zone, and his terrible defence, that cost us goals, and all his stupid neglegent penalties? He is a
C A N C E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Its sad when Ninny is the answer. By the way don’t you think Carbo and Gainey knew what they were doing when they drafted deadwood like Murray and Downie? Fall guys for the lack of skill Carbo and Gainey know they have as far as actually coaching a winning team.
Again the Habs are being outshot. Johnson can’t make a play worth damn. So much for trading for Johnson, he was supposed to be a playmaker, all he is good at is making lousy passes that get stolen.
It’s official the statisticians now note that the leagues’s worst defensemen and the leagues least likely to score ever, are now scoring on the habs. Players who are on their first and second goals of the season….at least the Habs are good for one thing, helping the pathetic grinders of the other teams….
It is sad when Kovalev is bigger than Carbo. Tells you that Carbo has no control whatsoever over his team…
January 16th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
I am sure Gillette is more than willing to speak with his wallet and let that speak volumes….can we say rubber cheques for Carbo and Bobby?
January 16th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
habs not playing well, down 2-0. can you say “”loss”?
Kovalev keeps turning the puck over, and the hab fans are booing .
next player to go, Kovalev!
January 16th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Nice to see the pot sturring,bout f@#$ing time, but the whole point of the exercise is lost coach CARBO,when u replace Rivs with NIIMIIAA anb replace Samsonov with DOWNIE….WHAT? U can’t bench Kovalev because what!!! U GOT TO BE FU@#ING KIDDING ME!!!
January 16th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
quote of the day…”yes, women can fake orgasms…but izzy can fake being a habs fan!”
I see izzy is dizzy…..what’s that izzy you played your entire minor league without a helmet? Made going head into the boards easier cause of your afro?
January 16th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
its sad when ninny and downie are the best carbo can do though, honestly…
January 16th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
The ROCKET has just turned in his grave!!!
January 16th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Welcome to the year 2007. If you don’t like it and if your inability to accept it dosen’t change then I suggest that you guys build a time machine and go back to the sixties.
Till then, stop talking like the glory days are coming back and are just around the corner if they can dig up Toe Blake, clone him and then with a miracle convince Scotty Bowman to leave a country with no taxes were he’s living comfortably in retirement to come back to a town that will chew him up and spit him out AGAIN and the highest taxes on the continent. Yah, real logical.
January 16th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
What is with Habsnumbr zero and his taxes? Sure Johnson will gladly take a hit oh his millions just as long as he doesn’t have to break a sweat….as if all those milllionaires care whether they pay taxes or not….what they can’t believe is that the fans actually demand that they work for it.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
How unrealistic does this sound? Koivu “yes boys we pay the pst and the gst, let’s give the puck away” and Kovalev “Ledroit complained we are overpaid and underworked, let’s also give the puck away” and Souray “since we can’t clone Toe Blake and the dynasty is finished, why win?”
As if Habs#1. man are you really out to lunch or what? These pros come here knowing they expect to pay taxes, are expected to play up to par in Hockeytown Canada man. Who the hell are you? Some smuck from the Eastern Townships on a visit to granma?
January 16th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Yeah, then why did none of the big name free agents come to Montreal in the summer and why haven’t any come in the last few years. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………..
Oh yah, TAXES.
Your a naïve little child who refuses to give up on the past. Deal with it.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Man are the Fans Pissed or what!!! Their going to lose it big time in the 3rd.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Why is it every other team has a back up plan,ie. Comrie 2 goals so far tonite for Ottawa, and ours is DOWNIE.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
After this loss tonight, habs go from 4th place to 6th place, because Ottawa is routing Washington, and Carolina,(leading Fla) will tie us. So all you guys saying: don’t worry, we’re in 4th place; THINK AGAIN!
habs look totally out of sync, no offence, no energy, nothing positive.
doesn’t help that every time we have a PP, Souray takes a penalty.
Is he brain dead, or what? He’s the next player to be benched!
habs look horrible, and I don’t know what Carbo can do to turn things around. they don’t seem to be making good decisions on the ice, re bad passes, no shooting, timing off. what gives?
January 16th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Hey Habs#1 like Gainey didn’t want them doesn’t that speak loud enough for you? Bobby boy there, the chip stand boy didn’t want big name stars cause he’s pissed that the drafted rookies that were not picked by him proved better than his old broken down vets…..cause Bob doesn’t want talent in Montreal, am I speaking loud enough there Habs#1? Get with the program you loser! I bet you clap your hands everytime the other team scores on the habs…you leafs fan, go back to your friggen blog and leave the habs alone!
January 16th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
During the break Carbo had the pres put even Youppie on waivers! Man doesn’t Carbo kinda remind you of Al Pacino in Scarface….later on tonite Gillettes gonna storm the Habs with rookies and take out carbo with his double barreled checkbook….VISA, great for when your pros are not delivering and you gotta charter that Greyhound for your rookies from Hamilton….
January 16th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Craig Hartsberg, calling Craig Hartsberg!!!
January 16th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
That was a slap in the face,a punch in the nose and a kick in the balls!!!
January 16th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Joshtm, do you pay attention to hockey at all? Do you read articles or watch t.v. when hockey writers are talking about what GM’s are doing? Do you know who Pierre LeBrun or Pierre McGuire are?
In the summer Bob Gainey aggresively persued Brendan Shanahan who used Montreal to get more money out of the Rangers, he went after Patrick Elias but he decided to go back to the swamp cause of taxes, he went after Jeff Halpern, but he wanted to stay in the States and avoid those taxes, he went after Jason Arnott but him and his wife didn’t want to deal with the taxes and he went after Zdeno Chara as well.
He went after those guys like a Bat out of hell but didn’t get any of them cause they didn’t want to play in Montreal.
Contrary to your beliefs, Montreal is NOT an attractive destination for most FA’s. Cause they don’t like the taxes and they don’t want to deal with fans like you.
Why don’t you actually read up on what Gainey’s doing instead of making up your own conclusions in your head while trying to get your radio to work.
Your an uneducated fan who thinks he knows everything yet doesn’t bother getting his facts straight. Try actually finding out what’s going on before slamming people.
And if you want to know who’s a Leafs fan, take a look at who everyone else agrees on. YOU. So go but on your Lanny McDonald jersey and pretend it’s 1967 for the next 3 days.
Oh, and Gainey didn’t draft about 4/5 of this team. He didn’t draft Murray or Downey or Rivet or any other player you seem to hate. The only mistake he’s made is Samsonov. Moron.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
And the reality is; there is nothing that can be done(significantly). Salary cap rules blah blah blah..besides, as a GM on another team, I don’t think I would want anyone one this team anyway. Especially for the money they’re “earning�. Too bad to say but it is true.
We’re just going to have to strap ourselves in a hope for the best and MAYBE they can improve after the allstar break.
(My Beer League team could have probably got a lucky one by Luongo!)
January 16th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
I now have to retract a statement I made earlier. I said the habs would finish in 7th or 8th place, and squeeze into the playoffs. WRONG! they won’t make the playoffs, not with this team! unless they make drastic changes, I don’t see this bunch of misfits getting in. I say trade Samsonov, Kovalev, Rivet, Aebischer, ASAP, and bring up Danis, and make Huet a backup. otherwise there is no hope for this team. they look pathetic, and doesn’t look like they have any confidence. Thursday, in Atlanta, expect a loss, and Saturday against Buffalo, expect another loss, which would mean 5 losses in a row. Remember we have now been shut out 2 games in a row, and our PP his only 9 for last 54, and we can’t score 5 on 5. Wow! How did we get so messed up? Gainey are you listening? You better be on the phone making trades!
January 16th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
That’s a $40,000,000 bullshit answer Hab#1.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
what’s the point. GM’s in league are lining up to try and fleece us as Gainey is not in a position of strength so no good dealings happening anytime soon.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:54 pm
I’m sick of you guys and I’m not arguing with you anymore.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
I just listened to Higgins being interviewed. he said this is the worst hockey he has ever seen a professional team play, and that: “the fans deserve better”!
he said: ” we were horrible, and we are playing without any confidence”.
I said before, don’t touch this or that guy, because they are untouchables, but on this team , there are NO UNTOUCHABLES! trade them all, because THEY ALL STINK!! I’m now embarrassed to be a habs fan!
January 17th, 2007 at 12:09 am
Looks like Habs#1 is going to take his Garth Murray hockey card from under his pillow,give it a kiss and put it in his shoe box in HIS CLOSET next to his LEAF SHIRT.
January 17th, 2007 at 12:19 am
Wow, this was bad night in Hockeytown. Three shutouts to start this year when previously we had not had lost one in over a year. What the hell happened the past few weeks that differed from the first part of a winning season.
I think what’s been conspiring is all the guys made a pack to stay in Montreal! Hear me out… these guys got together over christmas and decided to play like **** to insure that by the trade dead-line absolutely no one would be worth ****! Markov and Souray know their worth was getting out of the dollar range of the Montreal Cap restrictions, so they both have devised a scheme to plummit their value to remain habs. Huet just playing along with the game giving up 10 unanswered goals. Rivet and Sammy they’ve been playing the game a little bit longer, they’re probably the master minds behind this whole ruse. Maybe it is a hazing of Carbo. I do not think anyone told Carbo, he is probably going to have a coronary that’s if Gainey does rip his heart first!
Guys all we need to do is click our heals three times and say there is no place like home, there is no place like home… and we will wake from this miserable, made for TV, nightmere! Oh yeah, Home hasn’t been that kind to us lately.
There no place like Phili?????
No arm chair GM tonight… Everyone looked weak, frustrated, and broken!
January 17th, 2007 at 12:53 am
yuck….that’s two shutouts in a row!!
How are the ‘it’s only 1 loss fans’ doing…..are you still cheering! Yeah, I’m really cheering right now. Isn’t this so calming…I feel the frustration leaving my body….Well, they can’t get any worse so the stress is leaving…no problem…
just pathetic…it’s time to bring up the young guys and give them experience. Bench in turn the freeloaders one game at a time. Putting in the effort and winning one shift at a time will turn the tide. Try it….wake up…Carbonneau’s has got to keep kicking and throwing things around. Motivate!!
January 17th, 2007 at 1:06 am
I hate Jan Bulis the guys so ****.
He had that smug look on his face after his goal like he’s such a great player.
I just wanted to ***** slap that piece of ****.
Good luck in Vancouver reality will sink in soon enough.
Enjoy the ride and we’ll see you on waivers soon, *****!
Guys don’t feel so bad Buffalo, San Jose, Anaheim and Montreal are all in a slumps.
We will prevail and get back on track.
It’s good that we’re losing now, this will build character for the playoffs.
We’ll get on a major role before the playoffs and carry that momentum to the end.
Eastern Final - Montreal vs. Buffalo
West Final - Nashville vs. Anaheim
Don’t worry we got Bob, Guy, Kirk and Jarvis.
This team will bounce back, trust me.
Go Habs Go, For Life!
January 17th, 2007 at 9:24 am
A lot of are sore losers, no sportsmanship whiners. Come on, get a grip of yourselves, it’s a slump, every team goes through them and it usually makes the real players separate from the wannabes. Those who will step up and drag this team to better times will be the ones who stay while the floaters will be demoted, released or hopefully traded for some practice jerseys… Changes are coming, THAT, is one thing you can count on. Maybe with this losing streak, a lot of you bandwagon jumpers will have moved on to cheering for different teams because your verbal diarrhea is stinking this blog up for many of us real fans.
January 17th, 2007 at 10:02 am
Right on Smiler2729. You make some very good points. The constant negativity I believe is bringing the entire team down right now and it has got to stop. The coaches hear it and I’m sure the players hear it as well. Now I know the Habs are playing absolutely BRUTAL, but all the whinning in the world by us fans isn’t going to change it. The team has to go out on the ice and do it’s job, or at least pretend like they are working at it, and WE have to find a way to SUPPORT them,WIN or LOSE. It will be interesting who will be in OR out of the line up on thursday’s game. Just this…FOR GOD’S SAKES…PLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE SCORE SOME GOALS!!! GO HABS GO!!!
January 17th, 2007 at 10:44 am
As an armchair GM, I’ve never been enamored by Tomas Plekanec, Francis Bouillon, Alexander Perezhogin or Garth Murray. Murray’s gone to the ‘Dogs of Hamilton and hopefully the other three can moved too for either some farmhands ready to step in or some cheap help or draft picks (can never have enough of those) on the trading block. Realistically, only Perezhogin and maybe Plekanec could bring any interest from other teams and then what would they offer of any value? I’ve always cheered for Janne Niinimaa to succeed again after being pretty good in both Philadelphia and Edmonton. These guys all say they are lacking confidence right now and getting booed doesn’t help at all. Maybe if the Forum faithful (I don’t care what they call the ‘new’ building, the home of the Habs should always be called the Forum), emoted some encouragement, the boys will snap out of it but until then they’re squeezing those sticks too tight and playing scared to **** up SO LET’S BE LOUD AND SHOW ‘EM OUR TRUE FEELINGS cuz when this team’s winning it’s best hockey place in the world and when they’re losing, the worst, now ain’t ya sick of being the WORST? I AM. CANADIEN.
January 17th, 2007 at 10:49 am
I’m on ur side Habs#1, these guys are a bunch of ignorant retards!
January 17th, 2007 at 11:11 am
I’m 42, I was born and raised in Montreal, every year or so the Canadiens won the Stanley Cup until I was 16 (1980). I know those days are long gone, never to come again (for any team cuz parity sucks, breeds mediocrity). The ’80s were good even though we only won once (the fluke of ‘86, thank you Steve Smith). The ’90s started well and the ‘93 Cup was one of the most satisfying for me (that and the ‘76 sweep of the Broadstreet Idiots). The trying times started that ugly, ugly day after Jacques Demers had been fired and at a press conference up walked Mario Tremblay, Rejean Houle and Yvan Cournoyer annouced as the braintrust of the Habs!!! Now Cournoyer I loved and he was just an assistant but I never thought much of Houle as a player and I even hated Tremblay as a player and a broadcaster. The last 10 years were hell for Hab fans as the totally incompetent Tremblay got Patrick Roy traded and Houle completely fucked up any trades (re-acquiring **** like Corson and Richer?!!?) When Bob Gainey was hired, I knew this team could return to respectability and so far it has so I’m not complaining. All’s I ask for any NHL season is an entertaining team that shows some real competitive fire in the post-season and hopefully wins a Stanley Cup once every 10 years. I’m sure most of you are the same so let’s enjoy this season with cour continued high hopes (but not high expectations) cuz summers sure do suck without the Expos and something to pass the time until NHL camps open in the fall.
January 17th, 2007 at 11:24 am
I was having trouble putting my finger on how or why the Habs have turned 180 in less than a month? I have come up with only one thing; everyone wants to be the savior of this team! Guys are trying to put it upon their shoulders to break-out of this dreaded slump with some fancy stick work, unscreened blue line one-timers, and perfect through traffic passes. Koivu and the offense are pinching back to spark the Defensive play and Souray and Defense have jumped into the offensive to spark the offense play. If everyone realized no matter how good of a player they think they are, you’re only as good as the men standing beside you.
I propose getting back to the basics. This means keeping it simple!
One thing that I have noticed is that on the power play they are playing Souray a lot tighter. Teams have figured out he has a cannon from the line and even our own players do not like to get in front of the net to get hit by a stray missile, so they’re off in a corner with no chance of rebounds or deflections. This also spreads the offense making it tougher for us to get shoots on net and leaves the D-men vulnerable to picks which lead to penalties. Counter act this with Souray being a Left-handed player, we should set the play up with him on the left until they have control of the puck in the zone then switch, when the are applying the appropriate pressure down low making the D man an outlet instead of a go to guy. The d-men are not quick, dazzling stick handlers and should not be trying to deke small forwards to open up scoring opportunities, which in most cases have led to turn-overs.
Conversely, the Defense guys should be clearing the view of the net-minder. These guys are big guys, but all too many times they’re running around to the point looking to cause a turn-over with a standing blocked shot, while leaving guys like Koivu to sweep out rebounds. Punishment should be dealt to guys in front of the net from our D. I am sick of Koivu scrapping in front of the net with forwards getting second and third opportunities on the Goalies.
Offense needs to show some love and confidence in the line mates. I have not seen many if any plays where we have taken advantage of our speed and passing to cause the goalie to get out of position. Holding on to the puck in the corners with your head down is not going open up a perfect one time pass across a congested middle to the man on the other side of the rink. Plant a man in front of the net for rebounds and feed each other by opening up lanes by crashing the net and dumping it to open men. This will free up a winger or a drop pass to a defenseman which in turn allows for opportunities for tip-ins or give-and-go plays.
Goalies you both have butterfly styles, fine, but stay on your feet longer, so on long shots do not have the top-shelf shots available from the point and also challenge them by leaving the crease to cut-off angles. Also being on your feet allows you to move into position on re-direction or rebounds. Otherwise see the puck and continue to keep the games close. Abby and Huet, you may have let in a few soft ones, but seeing 40 shots and losing by one or two should not happen.
Last Carbo… I think the next couple of days before the break should be spent focusing on team building. You’ve shook up the lines (hopefully you seen what works and does Not), benched veterans, and screamed bloody murder for some heart and desire; It is time now to go through some basic drills to work on timing, quick puck release and defining key roles to the guys. You need this because you do not want these guys to take upon themselves to bring this team back to its winning ways. Let the guys talk out their frustrations amongst themselves in a group pow-wow. Working on the little things, tightening up their play, eliminating bad habits or cheating ways and instilling discipline will win back the passionate play they once experienced.
I apologize for the long winded comment… Go HABS GO
January 17th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Hey Smiler2729 I’m 42 as well! Wasn’t it great being a Hab fan growing up in the 70’s? All those great teams and beating Philly 4 straight in 75-76 playoffs I believe. Those day’s are long gone unfortunately and the last two decades haven’t been as good for us Hab fans either. My expectations for this team weren’t as high as some of the people on this blog site but I didn’t envision this meltdown in mid-season either. I wish the All-star break was here already so the guys could just forget the last three weeks and get away from the game for awhile and then return with a fresh mindset. I do know this much…they HAVE to win at least one of there next two games or it will really get bad. GO HABS GO!!!
January 17th, 2007 at 11:47 am
I liked what Boullion had to say. Last nights games saw the most aggressive work by some of the defensemen when they were on the ice, were the Quebecois players, the russians and the other hired hands, no show yet again.
Unless Carbo brings up Kosty to buck up Koivu and Kovalev, heck bring up Grabby too to buck up Souray…
January 17th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
I’ll tell you what. all year I’ve watched the Canadiens win, but they were not playing all that great. They’ve never been able to score 5 on 5, which is a must and their power was exceptional as was their one man down. But now the power play is back to normal and the 5 on 5 is still slumping so what do you get= no score.The goalies are doing the job for the most part and if not fot them the first part would have been bad too.I say Kovalev better start giving at least 100% and Ryder too. Don’t punish Rivet too much, Souray and Komisarek are not doing the best job either.Put back the pre-christmas lines they’ll start producing.
January 17th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Actually, this is the team we were supposed to have from the beginning of the season. Be honest, did any of you expect come January, that we would be in 4th place? NO! I t wasn’t a realistic prediction. But when we were winning all those games ( even tho we didn’t play that great),we got used to it, and started to expect it every game, and got spoiled(just like all those cup winning years). Then a dose of reality set in, and we had to start reexamining this team. Are they that good, or are they that bad? I suspect it’s somewhere in the middle. So what you are seeing now, are the REAL canadiens, What you saw for the last 3 months, was a group of players playing over their heads, and over achieving. guys, let’s face it. our PP isn’t that good, nor is our penalty killing. When we were winning, I kept saying: ” how are we scoring, with only 1 line, and how come our PP is #1, when it really doesn’t look any different from other teams, nor our penalty killing. Well, Souray was scoring from the point, until other teams started paying attention to him, and other teams figured out our configuration killing penalties, and started to exploit it. But I now know the team we had for the last 3 months will not return, because it wasn’t REALISTIC! I’m not saying we won’t win any games, but it will not be the explosition of wins we want.
In September, honestly, where did you guys figure we would finish?
We need to go back to that mentality in our heads, and stay there. We do not have the talent to be in the top 4, and you guys know it. It was nice to rent that spot for awhile, but it was a R E N T A L ! now deal with it, and ACCEPT REALITY!
January 17th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Ever since the habbies got Kovelev for that first round playoff against Carolina, he’s cost us .Why do u think nobody want’s the mega talented Kovelev,well we no why don’t we!He’s just prouved that the entire Habs o rganisation had and has bad direction. You no what’s destroyed montreals Habs,thepipe dream you could build a pro hockey team around that f*cker. Enough is enough!
January 17th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Once again, coutNY_HabsFan you’re spot on. At least from what little I read. Did you stay up all night writing that?
As for Garth, I’m sad to see him go too but mostly because of the promise he failed to live up to. Who goes when Begin gets back? He’s supposedly day-to-day (since 12-11), so I’d think he’d be back soon. Hopefully Gainey can work some more magic and somehow dump Samsonov, or even Niinimaa.
January 17th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
@Xhabsfan
Learn to spell his name before you call him a f*cker.
Dork!
January 17th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
I have to agree with High4Habs and some other posts here that the Canadiens were playing over their heads earlier and this is the REAL Montreal Canadiens we are seeing now. They are NOT a very good team and will likely miss the playoffs. They need to make some changes right away and get a sniper because they do not have one right now and they desperately need a game-breaker like Heatley in Ottawa, Hossa and Kovalchuk in Atlanta, etc. They need defence as well. Rivet has to go. Are you listening Gainey? Rivet, Ninny, Downie, Samsonov, they all need to go. They need to build around Kovalev, Higgins, Ryder, Koivu, Perezhogin, Bonk, Komisarek, Markov, Bouillon. These are the players they should keep. How long do you guys think it will take for the Canadiens to be a bonafide contender? Can they turn it around this season before it’s too late? Also, what suggestions do some of you people have to try and make the Canadiens better. Maybe we can give Gainey some instructions as to how to improve this team. What about Pierre McGuire saying the Canadiens should definitely try and pursue Scott Gomez. Would he be the answer? Also, can we acquire a free agent via a trade to help us. Any players out there? Anyways, let me know about this because I like every other Habs fan am getting very ******* pissed off at this losing streak. We were spoiled when they were winning all those games earlier in the season and we thought the glory days were returning but I was stupid and should have known better. This team built my hopes up only to crush them. They are starting to remind me of the Boston Red Sox of hockey, ouch! Is it possible that we might be under the “Curse of St. Patrick” much the same way the Red Sox were under the “Curse of the Bambino”? I’m not saying the Colorado Avalanche will ever become like the Yankees and win 26 championships but they were a contender after Roy joined them and Montreal still has not recovered. What do you guys think about this? Are we cursed like the Red Sox were?
Ziman
January 17th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
kazmojo - just trying to make some sense of this mess we’re in… I refuse to believe we were lucky for 3 Months. Granted teams have adjusted and our play will need change because of it, but I think there is a core team in Montreal that can play well once they adjust.
Honestly, I am finding it difficult, as some others have been expressing, to keep the faith and refrain from the negativity blame game. I have come to realize this is our team, good or bad, we need work with what we have until things change.
…and no, I did not “stay up all night writing that?”(blog #49), but I did spend some time proof reading, so certain fans would not turn their frustrations upon me!
January 17th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Tom my earlier blog #58 was not a reference to your #56. It’s in reference to an earlier blog about people’s grammar…
I think Kovalev is just trying his best to spark some offense in the only way he knows how. Unfortunately, his ability is clouding his judgment. He is frustrated, he knows he is a leader on this club, he knows the fans aren’t happy, and making plays with his moves and passing is the only way he know how to do it; but he is trying to take on the too much as an individual, alienating his line mates. He is not the only one… just the most visible.
January 17th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
@coutNY_HabsFan
That’s exactly what I think. Plus, Kovalev’s style just looks lazy, but that’s how he plays. He’s an amazing player, but not the right one to step up now and make the whole team turn around. He’s just not that type.
January 17th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
I guess the habs have played so magnificantly that they deserve a day off. huge mistake! I hate saying this, but I am so envious of the talent on Ottawa, and the garbage we have to settle for! Why can’t we have the kind of talent they have? This habs team, is probably THE LEAST TALENTED TEAM IN 20 YEARS!!!! no skill, no heart, and no anything. They only thing they do well, is TAKING PENALTIES! Can you imagine, there is such little talent, that they are forced to put defensive players on the 1st line! DISGRACEFUL! these players or whatever you want to call them, can’t score, can’t pass the puck, can’t clear the puck from their own zone, and can’t stop the puck from going in their net! a total embarrassment to this city! the fans have every right to boo them when these impersonators tries to portray themselves as a hockey team. they are just a poor excuse for hockey . But they are entertaining, because we are all laughing at them. They are a J O K E !
January 17th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
I agree this is not a very talented Canadiens team and they have no HEART! They seem to show no desire to win. All those Montreal teams in the 40’s through to the early 1990’s at least had the heart and desire to win. That is why they were so successful. They have the right people in charge like Gainey but they need the players that Ottawa has to be a legitimate cup contender. Remember the 1997 draft when we had a chance to select Marian Hossa and selected Jason Ward instead!!! What a mistake. We let Tomas Vokoun leave as well as Francois Beauchemin. These players are making an impact with their respective teams now. They need a true sniper like I have said many times before. There are a number of free agents available this summer as well but does anyone have any suggestions as to how we can possibly convince some of them to come to Montreal? I know High4Habs said that players don’t want to come to Montreal because of various issues, but does anyone, including High4Habs have any idea as to how we can get the right type of player to come here and make a major impact? What can we get to make our team a perennial Stanley Cup contender like we had from the 1940’s to the mid 1990’s? Remember the days when the Canadiens were always a cup contender, they didn’t win the cup every year but they had a chance every year. Even after their 1979 cup triumph after they won their 4th consecutive Stanley Cup, they were still one of the top teams in the NHL and had a chance to win but were upset in the playoffs a few times: i.e.(Minnesota in 1980, Edmonton in 1981, Quebec in 1982 although they finished 27 points behind Montreal that year and Monreal had the third best record in the NHL, Buffalo in 1983 and Quebec in 1985) Once Patrick Roy joined the Habs, they were always one of the top teams in the NHL and but even he had some trouble in the playoffs, especially against the Boston Bruins. If we would have won a couple of those series versus the Bruins, we might have won the cup like in 1991 or 1992. We would have beaten Pittsburgh, I am sure at least once. I just want them to be one of the top teams in the NHL again, I am sure that is what a lot of you people want as well. I am tired of the mediocrity of these jokers that we have on our team right now. These players we have right now bring dishonour to the history of the Montreal Canadiens, the most storied and successful franchise in NHL history and right up there with the New York Yankees as the greatest in all of sports. However, at least the Yankees have kept on winning and passed us in championships. We need to catch up to them and win one before the end of the decade. Do you people know the Canadiens have won a Stanley Cup in every decade they have been in existence, no team in professional sports has ever been able to do that, not even the Fabled Yankees. Only the Montreal Canadiens have been able to do that and I want them to continue that streak and win a title before the decade is over, what do you guys think? Anyways, I hope some of you can give me some feedback and let me know about this!
Ziman
January 17th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
The reason the Yankees are able to continue to win is because they’re able to go over the Cap mark and pay the penalties with no repercussions. They went over the Cap about as much as some teams were spending total on salary. MLB Cap is a joke, but at least the smaller franchises benefit from their over spending!
January 17th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
It’s not Gainey’s fault that Savard and Houle didn’t know talent in the draft even when it stared them in the face. If you look at the three drafts that Gainey has conducted, he picked mostly North American and Canadian players. Ever since he has been in charge he’s drafted 16 north americans and 6 europeans. Who do you think drafted Grabovski and Latendresse. He also drafted Price, Chipchura, Yemelin, Maxwell, Carle, Sergei Kotstitsyn and Fischer?
Savard and Houle wasted almost all of their first round picks, Chouinard instead of Simon Gagne, Jason Ward instead of Marian Hossa,Savard traded their first rounder in 1999 so they lost their oppurtunity at Marty Havlat, Savard picked Ron Hainsey and Marcel Hossa instead of Alex Frolov/Brad Boyes/Justin Williams(if the Habs had picked him maybe he wouldn’t have high sticked Saku in the playoffs)/Nik Kronvall(Detroit’s hier to Nick Lidstrom)/Paul Martin/Antoine Vermette and Jarret Stoll. I liked the Komisarek pick but Ales Hemsky was available, then he Savard picked Perezhogin instead of Mike Cammalleri and the Montreal kid Jason Pominville.
And in Savard’s final draft(where he mist out on Dion Phaneuf be 1 pick damnit), he picked Kotstitsyn instead of Jeff Carter/Brent Seabrook/Steve Bernier/Zach Parise/Ryan Getzlaf/Mike Richards and Corey Perry. All of them great young budding superstars. Then in the second round he picked Cory Urquhart. Ever heard of him? No I didn’t think so. But I bet you’ve heard of the guy who went 5 picks after him. Some guy named Patrice Bergeron.
So if you guys want to blame any one for not drafting enough good young canadian boys, or just future superstars, Andre Savard and Rene Houle are the guys you should be blasting.
January 17th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Many of you think Gainey is a genius, but he is not! look at some of his blunders: He signed as a UFA Bonk, a complete disaster. Remember Bonk was signed to score goals, NOT to be a defensive player. Then of course there’s Samsonov, what a disaster!. How about the trade getting Kovalev? what are the most goals he scored for us in a season? not very many; he’s much better at giving away the puck allowing the opponent to score. Then Gainey traded for Aebischer, who allows constantly soft goals, and never wins. How about the players available that Gainey didn’t go after? I commented back in September, when I realized as did everyone else, that we needed a 2nd line center. I said , go get PERREAULT ! we could have had him for next to nothing as a UFA. Gainey did NOTHING. guess what? Perreault has scored 16 goals for Phoenix, and selected to the allstar team! He would have been perfect. Then there was Comrie, and Nedved. Gainey has done nothing to improve this team over last year. He is, in my opinion a lame duck GM. He is unbelievably passive. And for all of you who disagree, who’se so great down in Hamilton? Is anyone burning up the AHL? The only reason we landed Price, is because we got a #5 pick. The idea is to find diamonds in the rough. look at all the great players we passed on; the list is extensive. This team is no better than the team we had last year, and in fact, we are WORSE! So come April, when we are out of the playoffs, or barely in, tell me how much better we are from 1 year ago! I’m not trying to denegrate Gainey, because as a person and player, he was great. But great players don’t necessarily translate into great coaches or GM’s. Just because he was GM in Dallas and they won the cup,it doesn’t mean he was a great GM. They just lucked out that year. After all, wasn’t Savard, GM when we won the cup in 1993? We all know how bad a GM Savard was. So please people, stop trying to make Gainey into a saint, or ” In Gainey we trust”! it’s all ****. And when Gainey was coach last year, we BACKED into the playoffs. The best 2 GM’s in the game today are: Holland in Detroit, and Lamouriello in NJ. Take a lesson, Mr. Gainey, and learn!