Craig Rivet traded to San Jose Sharks
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Well it wasn’t Sheldon Souray who went to the Sharks (yet), but Craig Rivet.
Rivet and 2008 5th round pick in exchange for Defenseman Josh Gorges and first round pick in 2007.
Thoughts?
More to come soon.
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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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February 25, 2007 pm28 7:25 pm
I think the price for souray might have been a little high for the sharks.I do like this trade but i think this is just a piece of a bigger trade to come
February 25, 2007 pm28 7:29 pm
Don’t forget, we have 2 ,#1 picks, 2 ,#2 picks, and 2, #3 picks.
Draft wisely Gainey.
February 25, 2007 pm28 7:32 pm
I like Craig Rivet, he was competitive and a proud and true Hab… Good luck to him wherever he lands this summer. Two first round picks this summer, very cool. And don’t buy any bullshit that it’s a weak draft year, you can’t judge these things til way down the road. All drafts are ****-shoot after the first 5 overall are taken, more or less.
February 25, 2007 pm28 7:35 pm
Yes very true smiler
February 25, 2007 pm28 7:41 pm
Look at all these teams loading up on draft picks… Montreal, St.Louis (who fleeced Atlanta for Keith ‘Fatso’ Tkachuk and Philadelphia… It only makes an organization stronger.
February 25, 2007 pm28 7:46 pm
So long Craig, you were a good Hab. Best of luck in SJ. I guess this means the Habs will try hard to sign Sheldon Souray now eh?
February 25, 2007 pm28 7:51 pm
Good luck Craig great to pick up another 1st rounder
February 25, 2007 pm28 8:21 pm
Part of the problem is parting with “heart” guys; however, who wants the gutless ones on the team? sorry to see Rivet leave but he’ll do just fine in SJ. Bring in young and full of piss and vinegar guys Bob.
February 25, 2007 pm28 8:28 pm
It was time for him to move on, good to get a first round pick for sure, I did not dislike Craig he played here for a long time and had to put up with fanatics like we see around here all that time.
February 25, 2007 pm28 8:29 pm
So…Great deal for the future! What about the playoffs this year? Rivet was a character player and close to Captain K.
February 25, 2007 pm28 8:32 pm
Smart business and hockey trade. Free cap room for Markov and Souray re-signing or another deal that improves the team. Rivet, though full of heart, has had his day with the Habs, we all know that. Getting a good prospect (he’s only in his 1st year!!) AND a 1st rounder is just unbelieveable. [For those smart alecks talking about this being a soft draft year, you know very little about sports... a 1st rounder is one of the top 30 young hotshots available, worldwide. We've definately had some bad luck in the past, but the scouting is much better now.]
If Rivet was gone at the end of this year for nothing, imagine the whining we would have heard!!!
NO, we won’t win the Cup this year and the team is now stronger for the future. Hopefully we make the playoffs and a good run, but Rivet no longer made a major difference to the team, for better or for worse. Smart trade!
GO HABS GO
February 25, 2007 pm28 8:46 pm
I just checked Marleau’s stats and his best season was last year with 86 points. Be fore last season, he was a 50 points scorer. BTW,he’s 28-29 years old, and for all those who say we don’t have players like Patrick Marleau, LEAVE THIS SITE AND LEARN A BIT ABOUT HOCKEY.
WE HAVE HIGGINS, RYDER, LATENDRESSE, PLECKANECK………and more to come
Higgins: 23-24 years old; 27 points/45 games SECOND SEASON
Ryder: 26-27 years old; 42 points/64 games THIRD SEASON
Latendresse: 19 years old;24 points/63 games FIRST EVER SEASON
Pleckanek:24-25 years old;33 points/63 games SECOND SEASON
Now let’s examine Malreau’s career:
1st round choice 2nd overall (1997)
Position: Center Shoots: Left
Height: 6′ 2″ Weight: 220
Born: Sep 15, 1979
Origin: Aneroid, SK, CAN
Season Team GP G A P +/-
1997-1998 Sharks 74 13 19 32 5
1998-1999 Sharks 81 21 24 45 10
1999-2000 Sharks 81 17 23 40 -9
2000-2001 Sharks 81 25 27 52 7
2002-2003 Sharks 82 28 29 57 -10
2003-2004 Sharks 80 28 29 57 -5
2003-2004 Sharks 80 28 29 57 -5
2005-2006 Sharks 82 34 52 86 -12 *SEVENTH SEASON*
2006-2007 Sharks 60 29 36 65 6 *EIGHT SEASON*
C’mon guys, appreciate what we have, and trust me of we can hold on to these players, we can be a way better team than San Jose is……WAY BETTRE.
February 25, 2007 pm28 9:10 pm
Test post
February 25, 2007 pm28 9:20 pm
LATENDRESS RYDER AND HIGGINS SUCK. HEATLEY IS THE MAN. HE HAS JUST AS MANY GOALS AS MOST CANADIANS HAVE POINTS. LAST YEAR HE HAD 103 POINTS WITH THE SENS.AND HE MIGHT COME CLOSE TO MATCHING IT THIS SEASON. SO IF YOUR LOOKING FOR TALENT LOOK ON OTTAWAS ROSTER. HEATLEY, SPEZZA, ALFREDSSON, REDDEN, VOLCHENKOV(LEADS NHL IN BLOCKED SHOTS) AND NEIL (LEADS NHL IN HITS) ALSO FISHER AND KELLY. LETS SEE ANY CANADIENS PLAYERS WHO ARE BETTER THAN THOSE GUYS.
GO SENS GO
February 25, 2007 pm28 9:35 pm
HABS=NOPLAYOFFS
Only a complete moron of a Sens fan would waste their time coming to this site and posting absolute ****. I thought Leafs fans were losers but you take the cake homo.
February 25, 2007 pm28 9:38 pm
GO TO HELL BUDDY, the Sens will never make it past the 1st round off the playoffs without choking to a sub-par team!
Also trade Souray, he is going to sign with a west coast team, that is where is ex-wife and kid are. we can get serious prospects/draft picks if we trade him to a cup contending team.
GO HABS GO
February 25, 2007 pm28 9:39 pm
HABS=NOPLAYOFFS get yourself a life.
You must have a lot of time on your hand (or playing pocket pool with the other)
Who go’s around other blogs putting up stupid posts? You a loser buddy.
Heatley plays as good as he drives. What has he ever done in the playoffs?
I hope to god our habs play you in the playoffs so we can wrap you around a tree.
Loser!
February 25, 2007 pm28 9:52 pm
memo habsalltheway, ive been sayin for the longest time theres no way that the habs will be able to resign souray because he wants to be out west. i was just wondering if u thought the same thing i did after the rivet trade, that the sharks could get him for nothing at the end of the year, instead of trading away young prospects like carle, bernier, pavleski and so on. i think souray isnt goin anywhere till after this season, unless you’ve heard otherwise
February 25, 2007 pm28 10:19 pm
Ouch!! Stevejur that’s a little harsh, but I do agree with you that Sens and Leaf fans have absolutely NO right being on this site. It just shows their lack of class to come on here and hurl insults at us. I just hope that none of the Hab fans who frequent this site do not go on any Sen or Leaf blogs to do the same to them. GO HABS GO!!!
February 25, 2007 pm28 11:25 pm
Great trade Bob, more than i could have ever thought you could get for Rivet.
I hope you don’t go turn around and trade that pick for any Vets.
Good start Mr Gainey….what next? if you move Kovalev or Samsanov that would be wonderful.
Was Gainey using mind control on the Shark’s gm or something… There is no way i’d want to be a buyer in this market.
February 25, 2007 pm28 11:42 pm
Yes, yes, Sheldon’s daughter lives in Cali, we all know that (not like divorced parents have ever lived in separate cities or anything) … but I think he really loves being a Hab and take away his defensive misgivings, he’s a pretty awesome player to have on your side. Whether he stays or goes, I have faith Gainey will do the right thing.
February 25, 2007 pm28 11:57 pm
Like most of Gainey’s trades this wasn’t called by most…fair well Rivet, best of luck.
Don’t really know much about this Gorges guy but he sounds like a half decent shot blocker.
February 26, 2007 pm28 12:14 am
Ron Hainsey how the hell did we lose this guy?
We rated him so high on our prospect list. All he needed was a chance.
What a player this kid has become.
Will be the star that we thought he’d be.
What a mistake!
February 26, 2007 pm28 12:24 am
good start…Rivet’s time was passed his welcome…As his performance was way too dismal. Glad we did get something with potential…Got to do more with Kovalev and Samsonov…and Aebischer…that’s a package waiting to happen. I see a Philadelphia or Chicago trade happening…
Not sure I want to listen to tomorrow’s game. Just play tough and keep to the basics. Take out the man and anticipate while back checking…Lots of traffic in front….let’s see if we can play a playoff type of hockey game (for the full 60 minutes)…Go Habs Go!
February 26, 2007 pm28 12:48 am
yeah the guy seems like a decent defenseman, and if he aint, he’s still young enough to get better. Another draft pick is great too. All in all, I find this a good trade for us.
Haven’t heard what Joshtm had to say about this yet eh? lol
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:03 am
Habs rock! gainey is king!
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:16 am
Habs rock! you heard it here first: the cup is coming home in 09!Great trade the kid is better defensivly than rivet PLUS a 1st rounder! hail to gainey! ps: LEAFS SUCK!
February 26, 2007 pm28 2:06 am
Good first move by Gainey. Clears out some deadwood and stockpiles some picks. After the Leafs win tomorrow night Gainey can start moving Souray and Kovalev.
February 26, 2007 pm28 4:02 am
Whatever Gainey has planned, I would never root for the Leafs against the Habs. EVER.
February 26, 2007 pm28 6:38 am
Good deal
February 26, 2007 pm28 6:39 am
SENS = NO HEART AND NO CLASS
February 26, 2007 pm28 8:10 am
Who the hell is Josh Gorges?
February 26, 2007 pm28 8:53 am
I think I remember Josh GOrges being captain of the Juniors a couple years back. NOt spectacular but could become a decent 4/5 guy on d.
Stil cant believe we got a 1st for Rivet. ANd a prospect ready to play is bonus.
February 26, 2007 pm28 9:37 am
Stevejur, Ron Hainsey was a desparation move that went wrong, a Casualty of the New NHL, and the #1 reason for Nimmiina. Here is a good lesson on why re-entree waivers rules have to be chnged: http://puckstopshere.blogspot.com/2005/11/re-entry-waivers.html
February 26, 2007 pm28 10:09 am
HEy Frank;
When the Laffs miss the playoffs for the second year in a row we the GM finally start to rebuild? Or will he go for 3, 4, 5 and maybe more?
February 26, 2007 pm28 10:23 am
I wonder what the Blackhawks are looking for with Seebrook on the Block? I would a 22 yr old former first rounder, at 6-3 220, would add some nice depth to our D…
February 26, 2007 pm28 11:02 am
We have a chance in the next 48 hours to cement our future for the next 10 years.
Seebrook is available and the Panthers have received offers for Jokinen and Nathan Horton, but it would take a tremendous deal for GM Jacques Martin to move either player.
Denver Post reported on Sunday that the team might also be pondering offers for rearguard John-Michael Liles and offensive-minded wingers Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos.
Names like: Seebrook, Hejduk, Svatos, Liles, Jokinen and Horton can really set us up.
I would love to get Liles and Seebrook than we can afford to move Souray.
As for the other 4, take your pick there all great.
Good defense wins championships.
**It’s been reported that the Maple Losers are making a serious pitch for Hejduk
February 26, 2007 pm28 11:09 am
Snake, when the Habs lose tonight will they finally concede that they have to trade the raft of mediocre players that they have? If they re-sign Souray they will regret it every time he makes the highlight reel (and it won’t be for scoring)
The Habs don’t have enough picks/young talent to get guys like Jokinen or Horton.
February 26, 2007 pm28 11:46 am
Good trade. It frees up some money to get a good goal scorer. Have faith boys. We are going to need it the rest of this year. I the Boys loose to the Laughs -I mean Leafs tonight. It is game over for this year.
GO HABS GO…………SUCK LEAFS SUCK…………..
February 26, 2007 pm28 12:00 pm
Hey frank maybe you should look at the leafs before you start talking about the habs young talent or our picks hahahhahahahahahahaha.Oh sorry my bad i forgot you have a future superstar in steen hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:09 pm
You’re right, how about you wow me with the glut of future superstars that the Habs possess? HAHAHA what a joke. Try not to get too depressed after the loss tonight.
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:18 pm
Again read post 40 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:21 pm
Hey frank maybe they can get john fergusons nose to suit up for the leafs hahahahhahahahahahahah
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:21 pm
How can the Leaf fans poke fun at any other team. What have they done in the last 40 yrs. That is one sorry *** team that they had a to honor the 1967 Stanley Cup laffs - I mean Leafs. That is all that they are hanging on to. Don’t poke fun there Frankie.
February 26, 2007 pm28 1:22 pm
Downey put on waivers
February 26, 2007 pm28 3:49 pm
Who’s holding on to the past? Habs fans are the ones that run around talking about their Stanley Cups all day with no regard for the fact that their team has been terrible for the past 14 years. You guys run any good players out of town. Your media and fans are so bad that UFAs don’t want to sign with the Habs.
Pactum, read 41 again, I didn’t see a response.
February 26, 2007 pm28 4:31 pm
Why wud i waste my time talking to a stinky leaf fan hahahahahahahaha bla bla bla
February 26, 2007 pm28 4:54 pm
Hey!!! My Wife is a Leafs Fan. LOL.. Yeh but 14yrs is a hell of alot better than 40yrs. Where was the Leafs last yr. eh. Playing golf in April.
February 26, 2007 pm28 5:09 pm
An inter-team marriage? What team do your kids follow (if any)?
It’s all bad when you are over a decade.
February 26, 2007 pm28 5:12 pm
I live in Toronto. My wife was born a raised in Toronto. My Daughter is for the Leafs. But myself I am a Proud Newfoundlander and Habs Fan. GO RYDER GO.
March 9, 2007 pm28 4:46 am
there were alot of sharks dissing going on here..wow..your trying to say monteal is better than san jose…hahahahhaah..ahem, yeah higgins..hes okay, he’ll never amount to the greatness marleau has made for himself…ryder..hes good but nothing compared to any of the players on the sharks top 3 lines. sorry..but your an ignorant fool to think that montreal is better than san jose ..montreal is pretty much useless without captain koivu dragging them around..i mean, come on. your all idiots..yeah i said it. idiots. all habs fans are idiots