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Habs Trade Day

  • Written by Habs BlogHabs Blog 261 Comments261 Comments Comments
    Last Updated: February 27, 2007

    Will the Habs make a move? Will Souray remain a Hab? Is there a goaltender coming after Abeischer’s struggles?

    Post your trade day comments and analysis here.

261 Comments
  1. #1 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:10 pm

    Martin Biron traded to Philadelphia for a draft pick. Why? Is goaltending their problem?? Is Biron better than Nittymakkii or Esche? They all suck.

    I hope the Habs pick up a goalie, maybe Curtis Joseph. David Aebischer is too shaky on every shot, rebounds going everywhere, he’s always on his knees, and most of all, the players have no confidence in him and that’s a killer.

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  2. #2 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:12 pm

    Must be a $$$cap move… There are desparate for a forward.

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  3. #3 Habs Blog
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:14 pm

    Biron woulda been nice fit here.

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  4. #4 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:14 pm

    Buffalo knows Phili move will not come back to haunt them in the playoffs…

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  5. #5 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:14 pm

    Toronto trades Mats Sundin to Japan for teriyaki.

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  6. #6 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:17 pm

    Martin Biron’s a backup. David Aebischer’s a backup. Biron lost his job in Buffalo to Ryan Miller. Bottom line: Montreal doesn’t need Martin Biron’s type again. But the Sabres must be on crack, dumping Biron and picking up Ty Conklin to replace him, Conks is way more crappier than Biron as a backup. Buffalo better hope Miller stays healthy.

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  7. #7 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:27 pm

    Buffalo G Ty Conklin to BlueJackets but for who????

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  8. #8 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:28 pm

    Conklin? Probably a pick… or a jockstrap.

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  9. #9 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:42 pm

    I know Montreal doesn’t have the greatest chance at Playoff success this season and that this team is just a tad better than mediocre (still better than Toronto though) but the nucleus for an entertaining, competitive team is here with a few tweaks for more character (i.e. more North American grit).

    I believe Bob Gainey’s trying to alter the core of this team, ultimately to toughen it and bring more blood and guts grit to the face of this team. That’s why Sheldon Souray won’t be moved if Bob really feels that he will re-sign, Souray will be at the center of the new face of the team, he is a born leader and genuinely likes playing in this intense hockey mad city. If Bob felt Sheldon has every intention of walking away on July 1 then he most likely will be dealt.

    I also believe the injection of youth is already happening and will continue. You can bet your bottom dollar, the likes of Niinimaa, Bonk and Aebsicher, if not moved today, will not be back. Andrei Markov and Mike Johnson will join Souray in re-signing. As for the constant Kovalev and Samsonov bashing, it’s futile, they’re here to stay so let’s hope they really start contributing.

    So today’s Habs trades, if any, are not about being a buyer or a seller but rather about changing the face and character of the team.

    In Bob We Trust…

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  10. #10 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:43 pm

    TSN AND SPORTSNET REPORTS PHOENIX COYOTES FORWARD GEORGES LARAQUE HAS WAIVED HIS NO-TRADE CLAUSE TO ACCEPT A TRADE TO THE PITTSBURGH PENGUINS FOR A PROSPECT AND AN 8TH ROUND PICK.

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  11. #11 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:51 pm

    Is Laraque a big deal? Non-impact player, he’ll skate the 4th line 3 minutes a game to keep the opposition honest and of the Pens’ stars.

    Gary Roberts joining Pittsburgh is big-impact, he and Recchi can maybe push this team to the Finals if, IF, Therrien doesn’t do something stupid (like open his big mouth) and Marc-Andre Fleury plays well consistently.

    I’d have to say Pittsburgh is a top contender with Buffalo and New Jersey out of the East. I still don’t believe in Ottawa and all other teams that make it to the dance are all tad-better-than-mediocre teams (Habs included) but get on a run and anything can happen.

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  12. #12 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:56 pm

    “Toronto trades Mats Sundin to Japan for teriyaki.”

    I like that trade.

    Maybe B.G. will aquire a good goalie and a centre that can score. But in order to do that he has to get rid of a few to get money to get a couple of good players.

    Maybe B.G. should give Fergieson a call to aquire Sundin and give the Leafs Abby (the leafs need a goalie) Kovalev, They need a coach so give them carbo.

    Waht do ya think about that???????

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  13. #13 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 12:59 pm

    Hot off the press “FRANK is up for grabs” Any takers. A real steal I hear. Very cheap.

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  14. #14 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:01 pm

    Sources tell TSN that the St. Louis Blues have traded Bil Guerin after failing to reach terms on a new contract. Details to follow.

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  15. #15 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:03 pm

    I wouldn’t want Sundin anywhere near the Habs, he’s doomed to be a Leaf forever, to fade into their history books as another overrated player that accomplished nothing of any greatness for the Laffs.

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  16. #16 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:04 pm

    St. Louis Blues have traded Bill Guerin to Sharks

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  17. #17 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:07 pm

    With Guerin gone… who is there left that the habs could take? Is it worth it to trade now?

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  18. #18 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:09 pm

    Not much. But “FRANK is up for grabs� Any takers. A real steal I hear. Very cheap.

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  19. #19 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:10 pm

    Frank has better teeth than Sundinie…………………….

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  20. #20 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:10 pm

    San Jose’s turning into a powerhouse, hopefully they can beat Anaheim because I still think the Ducks are a Disney joke and I want to see Chris Pronger fail after bailing out on a multi-million dollar, multi-year contract with the Oilers ‘cuz ‘wifey’ didn’t like Edmonton… tough titty.

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  21. #21 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:12 pm

    the habs picked up from waivers a guy that was from philly… dont remember the name… anyone know more?

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  22. #22 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:13 pm

    Proof that the Habs have no confidence in David Aebischer: Michael Leighton picked up on waivers.

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  23. #23 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:14 pm

    His name is… Michael Leighton… I’ll check out his stats…

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  24. #24 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:15 pm

    We picked up Leighton(goalie) off waivers from Philly. Does anyone have his stats?

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  25. #25 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:17 pm

    I’ve liked Michael Leighton as a goalie for a while now, couldn’t understand why he has bounced around so much after a couple of good seasons with the Blackhawks.

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  26. #26 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:17 pm

    Now, we need to put Aebishit on waivers

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  27. #27 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:18 pm

    Maybe means they’ll get rid of ABBy? Trade or Waivers… More room?

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  28. #28 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:20 pm

    Recent Career: Leighton
    Year Team GP GS MIN W L T OTL EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
    2003-04 CHI 34 33 1988 6 18 8 0 5 99 2.99 987 888 .900 2
    2006-07 PHI 4 4 195 2 2 0 0 0 12 3.70 102 90 .882 0
    2006-07 NSH 1 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 2 6.07 10 8 .800 0
    Career Totals (Full) 47 43 2649 10 23 10 0 6 134 3.04 1340 1206 .900 3

    Photos

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  29. #29 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:20 pm

    ok stats: This year: 2-2-0 GA= 14 SA= 112 SO= 0 GAA= 3.92 SV%= .875

    Looks like an aebisher to me

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  30. #30 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:24 pm

    YEAR TEAM GP W L T MINS GA SA SO GAA SVPCT
    2006-07 Philadelphia NHL 4 2 2 0 195 12 102 0 3.69 .882
    2006-07 Nashville NHL 1 0 0 0 20 2 10 0 6.00 .800
    2006-07 Total Nas/Phi NHL 5 2 2 0 214 14 112 0 3.92 .875
    2003-04 Chicago NHL 34 6 18 8 1988 99 987 2 2.99 .900
    2002-03 Chicago NHL 8 2 3 2 447 21 241 1 2.82 .913

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  31. #31 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:25 pm

    Let’s just say Michael Leighton’s better at being a backup than Aebischer right now cuz Abby’s confidence is shaken beyond fixing.

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  32. #32 Tom
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:28 pm

    Sorry, but Aebischer is MUCH better than Leighton, not only because of his SV% of 0.908. And by the way, Huet “the Great” has not really proven that he’s abetter goalie than Aebischer yet, a good spring ‘06 doesn’t make up for the fact that Huet was average all his career up to now. So stop the Aebi bashing, please.
    This Leighton-pick does not make any sense to me…

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  33. #33 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:29 pm

    Maybe Leighton’s going to Hamilton to replace Halak.

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  34. #34 Tom
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:30 pm

    Replacement for Halak, ok, that sounds like an idea..

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  35. #35 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:32 pm

    Yeah I tend to agree with Danis out we do not have much for experience in the system…

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  36. #36 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:33 pm

    Aebischer’s hard to watch though… every shot at him has me running for another beer!

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  37. #37 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:33 pm

    That was not a good move for B.G. We already have one piss poor goalie. We do not need another one. I don’t get it. B.G has done nothing, didly squat to improve the Habs. Nothing. We have 2.5 hrs to go before the deadline.

    COME ON BOB. WAKE UP ME SON.

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  38. #38 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:33 pm

    Guys, Gainey wins again, here we are comparing **** to ****. What the phoque kind of deal is that? We lost Laraques, we lost Guerin, we lost Biron, and now we are comparing two crappy backup goalies to see who is crappier? Once more Gainey has excelled in picking up ****!

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  39. #39 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:35 pm

    anybody think Burtuzzi would be worth it?

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  40. #40 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:36 pm

    OR wait! there’s still Ryan Smith!

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  41. #41 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:38 pm

    Lets start on online petition to give to the Gillett’s and the NHL board of govenors asking for help because Gainey sure is not there for us.

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  42. #42 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:41 pm

    Lets see who won and who lost.

    Penguins they got some great picks and round picks.

    The Sharks got Guerin and Rivet, a nasty duo when they get pissed off enough.

    The blackhawks dumped their ****.

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  43. #43 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:42 pm

    You think the Habs needed Georges Laraque? Or Martin Biron??

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  44. #44 Alestar
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:43 pm

    “36 smiler2729
    Posted on February 27th, 2007 at 1:33 pm. About ‘Habs Trade Day’.

    Aebischer’s hard to watch though… every shot at him has me running for another beer!”

    I thought it was just me that ran for a pint every time someone winds up in front of Abby…damn is he hard to watch.

    18

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  45. #45 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:46 pm

    Biron’s record is pretty good but I am indiferent? No on Laraque..

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  46. #46 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:46 pm

    Bob Gainey will strike again out of nowhere a la Kovalev and Theodore trades of yesteryear. Hell, the Rivet trade came fast and furious, we all assumed the Sharks wanted Souray.

    Let’s be PATIENT and STAY TUNED!

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  47. #47 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:47 pm

    Anyone who saw Begin basically kill himself trying to play enforcer, that was pathetic, now that we don’t have Rivet to play the toughie on demand and Downie is just a wimp for Montreal, of course we needed Laraques.

    Leighton and Abby will probably compete against each other to see who can let the worst floater shots in….of course we needed someone like Biron. Halak is gonna eventually get hurt cause our defense don’t protect our goalies….

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  48. #48 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:49 pm

    Apparently Jaromir Jagr can be had for the right deal… does anybody want that sissy on the Habs? Not me. So if Jagr’s available, then is Koivu??? Would Saku waive his no-trade?

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  49. #49 LJ55
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:49 pm

    I hope they unload at least one more UFA, I wouldn’t trade Bonk he is more valueble to us than Johnson IMO, Bonk’s a centre to boot. Leighton was just picked up because of injuries like others have said… Please Bob do not go for a rental, let these chumps keep spending a fortune for Broke down vets.

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  50. #50 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:57 pm

    At least Jaromir doesn’t convert a 5 on three to a power play, Koivu has lost it. Koivu must go, if we can get Jaromir for Sakku, that sounds like a good deal, go for it. If only to hear SHANANANAA at the Belle Centre again one more time this year at least.

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  51. #51 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:02 pm

    I was really hoping we could get a proven scorer. Blake is probably going to be traded by NYI, but doubt they would teade him to us, their competitor.
    what about Bertuzzi? Is he’s healthy, a power forward, who can score.
    If Gainey doesn’t get a scorer, enjoy mediocrity!

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  52. #52 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:07 pm

    oh **** guys Boston just got Aaron Ward!!! They are definitely making a run for first place in the conference.

    Looks like we are going to have to have the Bruins lift the cup before us…

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  53. #53 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:08 pm

    Fire Sale in Manhattan! Aaron Ward to Boston… Hopefully the Rangers will be so depleted tonight.

    Why would the Isles trade their best scorer in Jason Blake? In the midst of a playoff race??? If Garth Snow took the brown acid this morning, let’s get Rick DiPietro for Abby!

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  54. #54 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:11 pm

    I just want the Bruins to make the playoffs and face us in the 1st round! Easy pickings those chowderheads!

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  55. #55 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:16 pm

    If I had to pick 1 player, who wouldn’t be expensive and definitely help us, it would be YANIC PERREAULT. he’s great on facoffs, and a center. We should reacquire him. Go Gainey, get him, please!

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  56. #56 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:20 pm

    Never mind Boston making the Playoffs. I’m just worried about us.

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  57. #57 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:22 pm

    I never thought they should’ve let Yanic Perreault walk away…

    The New York Soap Opera: Aaron Ward got into it with Yammy Jagr and was promptly traded out of town. Hey Abby, throw a punch at Halak or something!

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  58. #58 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:23 pm

    Gainey does not have the balls to make a trade. A good one at least. he should be the next to go. Along with carbo………..Oh & Abby…….

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  59. #59 goHabs_go
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:24 pm

    im so disappointed so far. i just cant imagine bob is gonna let us go down like this. buy or sell bob; do something!

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  60. #60 Rob
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:24 pm

    Leighton being acquired has to mean that Aebischer is going to be dealt. Doesn’t it? Danis is more than capable of being a starter in Hamilton. That acquisition doesn’t make any sense unless there is something behind the scenes that we don’t know.

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  61. #61 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:26 pm

    Yeh !!! Carbo punch the trainer. Gainy punch Gillett……Lets have Tuesday night Raw or Smackdown

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  62. #62 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:26 pm

    Yann Danis is injured in Hamilton.

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  63. #63 goHabs_go
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:28 pm

    between claiming leighton and calling up kostitsyn, somethings gotta give

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  64. #64 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:32 pm

    Anybody here like to see Paul Mara on our defence? He’s good (7th overall pick) and should connect somewhere along the way after stints in Tampa Bay, Phoenix and now Boston sick of him.

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  65. #65 Tom
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:34 pm

    Looks like the good old problem that no one wants to play in Montreal is still existing…

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  66. #66 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:34 pm

    WE NEED OFFENSE

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  67. #67 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:38 pm

    I want to play in Montreal.

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  68. #68 Rob
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:38 pm

    Thanks Smiler:

    What exactly is wrong with Danis? That might explain the acquisition of Leighton.

    Anyways, the trade deadline is not yet over. Gainey is taking a bit of a risk by sitting on the fence right now. Neither building for the future or the present. However, let’s be patient before passing judgement.

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  69. #69 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:40 pm

    yeah… according to tsn its in the last hour that most of trades are done so theres still hope. Bob isn’t done yet!

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  70. #70 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:47 pm

    Just a gut feeling… the longer time goes on, the more I think Bob’s working on something big on a few fronts in case of deals on the table falling through. Every GM involved is on a hot seat today and it becomes a game of chicken as the deadline nears as they wait for the better deal.
    Bob’s history in Montreal so far has been that he isn’t afraid to make a big move (Kovalev, Theodore) and this season’s version of the Habs is ripe for an internal facelift so we should all stay tuned and if he doesn’t get it done today, remember there’s two dance partners in this and it’s not Bob’s fault if his trading partner opts out at the last minute. Also, groundwork is being laid for an offseason move (Tampa Bay wouldn’t trade Lecavalier now but at the Entry Draft, it’s a whole different scenario!)

    In Bob We Trust…

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  71. #71 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:48 pm

    Forget Paul Mara, just found out he’s a New York Ranger.

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  72. #72 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:54 pm

    But the goalie situation makes no sense. Gainey replaced **** with ****.
    Leighton will be no better than Aebishit. What is he doing?
    Besides, we STILL NEED A CENTER!

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  73. #73 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:58 pm

    Oleg Saprykin from Pheonix traded to Ottawa… hes a forward of 34 points.. Not a big player but the Sens are doing more then us..

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  74. #74 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 1:58 pm

    Let’s play deal with Florida, we give ‘em David Aebischer and Alexander Perezhogin for Ed Belfour and Jozef Stumpel, what the hell eh?

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  75. #75 smiler2729
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:02 pm

    Pins and needles… I doubt we hear of any big ones til they trickle through after 3 pm, I’ll be at work then so if it’s a doozy for us, chug a beer for me, if it’s a wonker (though I doubt that), go easy on Gainey, he’s doing his best for us.

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  76. #76 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:03 pm

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.
    i bring that up, because TSN just did a flashback to trade day, 2000, and guess where the habs were on that day? tied for 7th place with the Pens.
    So you see, we’ve been mired in that 7th or 8th spot continuously for the past decade! That’s exactly why GAINEY MUST DO SOMETHING NOW!

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  77. #77 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:05 pm

    testing…

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  78. #78 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:05 pm

    testing…again…

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  79. #79 Habz4EveR
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:06 pm

    testing…1

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  80. #80 Rob
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:08 pm

    I agree with Smiler.

    As the clock ticks, all those teams who are not San Jose are now panicking. Guerin and Tkachuk are gone! All of a sudden guys like Samsanov, Kovalev, Souray, Aebischer look pretty damn good to those other GMs. Gainey will fleece ‘em yet. You watch!

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  81. #81 Rob
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:11 pm

    I agree with Smiler.

    Guerin and Tkachuk are now gone. The more that the clock ticks, the more that a GM (other than San Jose’s GM) will offer for guys like Samsanov, Kovalev, Souray and Aebischer. You watch. Gainey will fleece ‘em yet. There must be something cooking here.

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  82. #82 HamiltonHabsFan
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:14 pm

    umm bob…please make a trade… WE havnt got much better with the addition of leighton…. i would like to see him pull something out of his hat in the next 45 minutes and shock us all with a big acquisition

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  83. #83 Rob
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:16 pm

    You are correct, Smiler.

    Any GM in the Western conference is now panicking after seeing what San Jose has done. The longer that the clock ticks, the more likely Gainey will get a deal for someone like Souray, Kovalev, Samsanov or Aebischer. Their value is going up by the minute. I agree that the Habs will make a deal before the deadline hits.

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  84. #84 johnnyhab
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:18 pm

    Burtuzzi gone to Det cond pick & prospect

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  85. #85 johnnyhab
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:20 pm

    Bertuzzi gone to detroit for cond pick & prospect

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  86. #86 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:21 pm

    Bertuzzi traded to Detroit, for an unconditional pick and a prospect.
    Basically, we could have had him for almost nothing, but of course we never get players we need. As usual, Gainey missed the boat AGAIN!
    Guess he really doesn’t want this team to get better!

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  87. #87 Habs Blog
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:28 pm

    Time’s running out.

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  88. #88 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:28 pm

    HALAK back between the pipes tonight in N.Y. Lets wish him luck shall we. Halak has nothing to loose. He is called up to try to fill some pretty big shoes.

    If our D-Men helps him out he will do good.

    GO HABS GO……………

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  89. #89 Habs Blog
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:28 pm

    Perrault to the LEAFS….weak.

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  90. #90 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:31 pm

    I’m really pissed off! Perreault been traded to LEAFS!
    damn it. We neede him. damn you GAINEY!

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  91. #91 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:40 pm

    Get off this **** on Bob is doing something big and just realize Bob doesn’t know how to do big.

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  92. #92 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:40 pm

    Can we trade Gainey?

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  93. #93 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:47 pm

    HALAK back between the pipes in N.Y. tonite. I hope our D-Men will help him out tonite. If he gets help then I feel that we have a great chance to win. Halak has nothing to loose. But everything to gain. He is up from the minors to help the Habs win some games. BUT I bet that he did not know that was to become the Habs #1 goaltender and try to fill some pretty big shoes………Lets all wish him all the best tonite shall we.

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  94. #94 Habs#1
    February 27, 2007 am28 2:50 pm

    Bob Gainey knows this team isn’t going anywhere this year so why would he give up anything that would affect the future to finish in 8th place?

    Gimme a break.

    I’m just dissapointed he hasn’t been a major seller. Welcome to five more consecutive seasons of 8th place finishes cause this team can’t win with this veteran corps.

    And enjoy the 17 reamaining games with Souray in the line-up. Cause when Montreal dosen’t make the playoffs or get swept in the first round, he’s gone and the Habs will have a major hole on their backend that will not be filled cause Gainey didn’t get anything back for him.

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  95. #95 Habs Blog
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:03 pm

    Unless they announce re-signing of Souray this is a huge loss.

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  96. #96 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:06 pm

    AMEN BROTHER…………

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  97. #97 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:08 pm

    Nothing a few million $ wont fix

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  98. #98 Habs#1
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:11 pm

    Yah, but the Habs will not have enough cap space to give Souray the amount of money he’d get on the open market.

    Welcome to the cap era! He’s not going to take a discount.

    Bye bye Souray in 17 games and possibly a sweep in the first round.

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  99. #99 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:13 pm

    Gainey should be fired! Did absolutely NOTHING! And that stupid move, picking up Leighton(piece of ****), absolutely ridiculous! Even the TSN crew thinks it makes no sense. so you think 5 years of 8th place finishes? TRY 15 YEARS OF 10th PLACE FINISHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  100. #100 HABMAN
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:20 pm

    I wouldn’t listen to anything that those Leaf boosters at TSN would say about the Habs because they are always going to be negative when it comes to the Habs. Definitely NOT a reason for Bob Gainey to be fired.

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  101. #101 HABMAN
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:23 pm

    And at least we didn’t throw in the towel by trading Souray, although we will most likely lose him to UFA.

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  102. #102 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:24 pm

    Since we are firing Gainey lets throw out Carbo with him………..

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  103. #103 Jacques
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:28 pm

    The habs will be sorry they let Yannic Perreault go to the Leafs. They’ll probably find this out the next time they meet. Now I favour Toronto over the Habs to make the playoff. It’s only a minor move that will likely get the Leafs over the hump. The Leafs stole Perreault, He would have been a good second line center and his face off record makes him one of the best. Stay tuned.

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  104. #104 Pdiddy
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:33 pm

    We have done nothing and will pay for by not making the playoffs. Adding another Goalie???? that’s the last thing we need. We need goal scorers!!!
    Look at our last 10 games, 4-6. If we do not score more we most probably will not make the playoffs let alone put any kind of fight if…IF we make it. If you want to make some money on a bet, find your freinds who are huge habs fans and bet them the habs wont make the playoffs. I am a habs fan but with no move made before the deadline??? now if we don’t make the playoffs we will get nothing for Souray meaning we now, no matter what, we are starting next season with less then what we have this year barely in any sort of contention.
    Gainey messed up!

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  105. #105 habrez
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:33 pm

    man we really missed out on ryan smyth but did not miss out on perreault

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  106. #106 LJ55
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:38 pm

    Geez i’m glad we didn’t get any of these guys, they cost way too much.. Let’s face the facts… we are alot more than one player away from the cup

    I wish Gainey was able to unload some more deadwood, oh well i’m glad he wasn’t at buyer at the deadline, it’s just not worth it. short term or long term

    Seems like people just want Gainey to make any sort of trade, yeah let’s give up some young players and high draft picks for a rental who we are gonna have for 2 months. yeah that’s a great idea when your not a contender.

    I could see us making a big splash at the draft or in the off season… we now have some more tradeable assets than we did before with the Rivet robbery gainey performed. I’d rather use our assets for a players we really want and need.

    If tampa doesn’t get at least 8 playoff home games or somewhere around there, they will lose money this year. The ownership has already stated there payroll will have to be reduced next year regardless of the cap going up. So expect one of Tampa’s big three to be moved for young players and prospects. we’ll see what happens there.

    Ryan Smyth traded btw, not the kinda of return they should have got either.

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  107. #107 Guy#10
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:38 pm

    ryan smyth to long island.

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  108. #108 LJ55
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:39 pm

    I suspect Smyth may re-sign with the oilers on July 1… if so this would end up being a good trade for them.

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  109. #109 Habs 4 Life
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:40 pm

    ummm we may have not of done anything today but we still made atrede(rivet) just it wasn’t today, it was a great trade for us, and iam glad the habs didn’t make any trdes becuase i like our roster right now, and i odnt think there was much for gainey to get anyways. all the big players went to cup contending teams, and i would of hated it if giney made one of those *** some trade for high drafts picks, for a player who probably wont even save this team. We will clearly make the playoffs, and will get huet back for the playoffs, and everything will be just fine. SO SHUT UP ABOUT THE HABS NOT MAKING ANY DEALS BECAUSE WE DID, AND IT WAS A GREAT ONE:)

    GO HABS GO

    Habs 4 Life

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  110. #110 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:46 pm

    Deal. What deal. Where was I when this took place. Oh that rotten deal. The new boy 4 points in 47 games. Well that will certainly bring home the cup. We don’t need Kiovu now……………..

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  111. #111 Rob
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:46 pm

    Really disappointing that more deadwood wasn’t unloaded from the roster to build for the Habs future. Hope that Downey will be back on the Habs roster in time for the next Pens game so he can again lecture the kid on how to play the game. Maybe Downey could even give Laraque a lesson or two.

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  112. #112 habsrweak
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:46 pm

    why couldn’t we trade KOIVU STRAIGHT UP FOR SMYTH WE ARE PATHETIC THE ONLY GUY WHO DESERVES WHAT HE HAS IS SOURAY AND I DONT EVEN THINK WE DESERVE HIM GAINEY WTF ARE YOU DOING
    F#$K IN GAINEY WE TRUST

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  113. #113 Pdiddy
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:48 pm

    I really hope you are right Habs 4 life. We go on any sort of skid like before there is no chance we make the playoffs. With the trades other teams got stronger and we remained the same. I think we will not make the playoffs, we score get a goos lead and then barely pull it off. If we do make the playoffs there is not much to look forward too with the teams at the top. Even agains the week teams we have trouble proving we are also one of the week teams. The Rivet deal foreced us to keep Souray today and if we do not make the playoffs then we will lose Souray to UFA and then free up some room in the cap and simply get another D that is not as good as Souray. We shoud have unloaded Souray for a proven goal scorer which would cover missing his points.

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  114. #114 JonoPEI
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:55 pm

    I still like the Habs. 25 in 2009

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  115. #115 Dan Im Fed UP
    February 27, 2007 am28 3:58 pm

    WTF Gainey! No action besides a goalie that’s on his fourth team in one season. Too many Europeans + no trades = no playoffs. Boo Gainey, boo Samsonov, boo Aebisher, boo habs.

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  116. #116 LJ55
    February 27, 2007 am28 4:04 pm

    Did it ever occur that no one wanted any of our deadwood? I’ll be mad if Markov and or Souray walk away for nothing… otherwise i am very thankful we weren’t a buyer of any kind. trading youth for a rental at this time would set us back imo.

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  117. #117 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 4:04 pm

    Gainey needs to read that book “General Managing for Dummies”. Can he read? he most certainly can’t make deals……………

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  118. #118 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 4:08 pm

    Listen boys. We need a player/players to win the cup this year or maybe the next. Don’t worry about the future. The days of dynasties 3-4 cups in a row are over. That will never happen again. They build teams to win one cup now. Not mutiple cups in a row.

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  119. #119 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 4:18 pm

    Well lets hope they perform a miracle and prove Gainey right. Wouldn’t that be surprising, the whole world wrong about this bunch of misfits pulling off a major upset, if only. Let’s hope we get a decent finish though, that is all we can hope for.

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  120. #120 bigsexyflyfisherman
    February 27, 2007 am28 4:39 pm

    I’m not sure if it is Gainey or Gillette, but someone is certainly testing my patience as a habs fan. The NHL has had a cap for two seasons now, and the habs have not responded by putting a decent product on the ice for their fans. We have one of the highest seating caspacities in the league, and a very strong loyal fan base…but where is our return. For the past two summers gainey has “saved cap room” in case it is needed at a later date. Yet in neither year has he done anything significant during the season or at the deadline to to improve the team.

    All the Theodore trade accomplished was freeing up more money he was not intending to re-invest in the team. Then they turned around and gave too much money to Samsonov whom I predicted wouldn’t be worth the ink it took to sign his name to the contract. We essentially have the exact same team as we had a year ago, and look how far they went. No check that , we are worse because last year we had a goalie. Aebisher’s armour has more holes in it than Switzerland’s other major export…swiss cheese. I absolutely hate what is going on with this historical franchise. No deals when most teams around them got better? Never in my 26 years of loving this team has it been so discouraging to be a habs fan.

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  121. #121 Dizmil
    February 27, 2007 am28 4:54 pm

    In Gainey We Trust! Why….

    I have not seen anything in his tenure that has made this team better. When he took over this team we were a cusp team, and we still are…. Oh yeah, he got rid of a big contract like Theodore…wait, he gave Theodore that big contract.

    I can agree to not mortgaging the future for a rental player…but who is our future? Perezhogin, Plekanec, Latendresse, Ryder, Kostysyn? I wouldnt bet too much money on that line up when other teams are building a future with the likes of Semin, Ovechkin, Crosby, Stall, Malkin, Horton, etc….

    I don’t get it….Salary cap era or not….we sold our souls back in 96 (i think) when we got rid of Roy for a bags of pucks and we were never able to recover, we never re-built, we never really got any better….in the mean time we see temas like Anahiem, San Jose, Nashville, Tampa, Atlanta, Carolina become contenders….

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  122. #122 stevejur
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:08 pm

    Awesome! No replacment for Aebi-*******
    How can you drop the ball on Ryan Smyth? How? At least make a damn call before 3pm.
    Our 100 year anniversary is coming up and you have a chance to get Captain Canada and you drop the ball?

    I can’t forgive them for this or for a better word “lack of managment”.

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  123. #123 T-RUM
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:09 pm

    you mean to tell me that Gainey couldnt package up say sammy or perez and milroy plus TWO first round picks of a weak draft for Ryan?

    please tell me its because he knows that Ryan will re sign with the oil next year…

    please?

    and now?….what do we do?….do we send Halak back and ride leighton and Abby into the playoffs?…if you believe that you’re nuts.

    bottom line is the islanders with this addition will make the show, and either the habs or leafs are out…..smythe is THAT good.

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  124. #124 PACTUM SERVA
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:17 pm

    Yes i agree t-rum i think the habs will be leap froged very very soon for good

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  125. #125 Dan Im Fed UP
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:27 pm

    my name says it all. we needed two things, a power forward and a goalie. what did we get? a goalie who will never get a start. thanks for the slap in the face from the montreal organization i’m starting to become a masichist because this seems to happen every year to the fans, my tolerance for pain is at a threshold. next year if there are no changes, calgary will be my number one team, considering i’ve been here for 10 years now and have been a loyal habs i see no reason to continue with my “wishful thinking”.

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  126. #126 LJ55
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:34 pm

    If we wanted ryan smyth we would have to start with Carey Price, add another top prospect and first round pick/picks, ya excellent pickup for a 2 month rental.

    the guys on tsn are clueless saying they can’t believe we didn’t get a goalie like belfour or Joseph. they actually seem to think the Leafs have better goaltending than us…. maybe the only habs game they watched was last night.

    And too suggest the oilers would take samsanov it just play silly.

    Can we please be like the Leafs and mortgage our future for a 2 month rental…i was hoping the Leafs would do the same thing again this deadline. maybe there organization has grown a brain.

    Yeah we’ll see how much you love the deal when the Isles get knocked out in the first or second round and Smyth walks away as a free agent.

    rentals are for teams who are actually contenders. if we made a rental trade like some suggest it would have set us back long term and even immediately after the season.

    I just don’t get where people are coming from.

    yup no replacement for Abby our back up goalie boo hooo. Carey Price is eligible to play for us as well when the WHL playoffs are over, which is way before the NHL’s season. If they sign have Price signed yet or not i do not know. No one knows when Huet will be back either…

    I guess they think are 36 year old rental goalies ,well past there prime will lead us to the promised land. Abby is fine as a back up IMO.

    Geez if gainey got Belfour or Joseph can u imagine the ammunition he would have gave Joshtm? LOL

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  127. #127 Dan Im Fed UP
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:34 pm

    who am i kidding? i’ll never jump ship. i’m just really bitter at the lack of effort from MANAGEMENT.

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  128. #128 HaBs4EveR25
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:46 pm

    yup management is really pissing me off right now

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  129. #129 TaLoN
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:57 pm

    Habs Fans My ***,, you guys are pathetic. Whine this, whine that, did you happen to notice the number one draft pic we scored while still keeping a playoff contender of a team, As Burke said prices are too high, As are most of your standards. Theres a reason no one wants to play in montreal, and it aint because of the French language, its cause of the savage nature of its fans and its press. Yes Pride is Awsome, to love a team as much as you and I do, BUT ever think you might be taking it all a bit too serious, and hell maybe these players actually read this blog. Boo on you all I say, I’ll be quite comfortable on my couch enjoying a Habs game win or lose with great players, cause I can see my grass, and my neighbours is just about as green as mine.

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  130. #130 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 5:59 pm

    On TSN, Keenan talked about some GM’s who just look at their roster all day, and never make trades. he’s talking about our fuc#$%%en GM, GAINEY, that gutless moron! You’re ******** over the fans! We should have gotten Perreault!
    watch him score against us. He was a perfect fit, and I’ll bet we would have resigned him for next year. What the hell is wrong with GAINEY?
    This organization NEVER EVER does anything to improve!
    Like I said last night, when the season’s over, Souray is gone, and we have NOTHING to show for it! We should havr traded him for the future of this franchise! But guess what? There’s NO FUTURE WITH THIS TEAM! I’m fed up with Carbo, Gainey, and Gillette! This is the most FUC#$%^ked up franchise!
    I hope they lose all remaining 18 games! It would serve them right!

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  131. #131 Guy#10
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:04 pm

    Tonight were gonna kick some ranger but.

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  132. #132 Guy#10
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:05 pm

    BUTT

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  133. #133 habs2go
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:11 pm

    I’m really disappointed. It seems we go thru this every year, and the fans suffer because we stay in this stagnant position, with no improvement, or actually regressing.
    At the start of the season, I had hoped we would score more, but the opposite happened, and now we have but a shell of a competitive team. Our goaltending is a laughing matter, and I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel. Our farm team is very weak, not alot of prospects, so what should we be excited over? It will again, be a long off season, with summer coming earlier for the habs. I guess I should take up golf, because there won’t be any habs hockey
    games to watch. Very frustrating at the way this organization treats loyal fans!

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  134. #134 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:28 pm

    How can any of you wannabe manager’s know what deals were offered ? You think you know what was said yet no one knows, as far as I see Bob did not panic and for that I am happy, we cant sell our future for the short term.

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  135. #135 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:34 pm

    Actually DON: it’s the opposite way around. Had we traded Souray, it would have been for our future. We could have gotten a player off a team’s roster, plus 2 , #1 round picks. But I guess none of you care about the future.
    Yes, finishing in 8th or 10th place every single year is more important than a very good team in about 2-3 years. Good luck to your talentless team! Enjoy the basement of the eastern conference, because it WILL BE A PERMANENT HOME FOR THE HABS!

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  136. #136 habs2go
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:38 pm

    Is our neww goalie, called Leighton. Oh , I thought it was laughin. That’s what the rest of the league’s players will be doing when the pucks go into his net!

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  137. #137 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:46 pm

    Yes Don since Bob Gainey runs a very secret organization, he is just a top secret General Manager. Yes it was a tough day, Pittsburgh offered both Crosby and Ovechkin for Samsonov, but hey Gainey had to make the call. Now we’ll never know will we?

    You are so funny Don. Honestly.

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  138. #138 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 6:54 pm

    Hey Don, since Bob did not panic and for that you are happy, maybe you can illuminate us wonderful ignoramuses who are not so fortunate to be in your esteemed company, tell us, if Bob did not sell our future for the short term, gee the present seems pretty crappy. Exactly which of the underachieving millionaires will save us in the future? What by not trading Samsonov for Crosby and Ovechkin, how will that save the Habs?

    Or now Pittsburgh and even Toronto now have some key very offensive players, even in the long term that is a big bonus. I fail to see your point.

    What because we kept Samsonov and Kovalev and Dandy and Boully, that we are gonna win the cup next year? Is that it?

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  139. #139 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 7:06 pm

    Gee, what other forward in the NHL and has cleared waivers so Gainey can give him a raise? Hmm..three points all year for half a million dollars. Hey Bob does that mean if Downey gets one mmore point it’s a million dollar raise? Is that how it works. Three points, half a million, four points and hey you join Dandy and Boully’s club for underachievers anonymous….

    Is that our great future Don Carnage? Whoopee, I look forward to watching Downey save us from a lacklustre season…yes, on right wing, is Downey, who has scored one goal and one assist all year. Does that mean next year Downey will score two goals and one assist, that is our great future Don Carnage? And for that Gainey didn’t panic, last year Don was Gainey’s great answer to the trade deadline.

    Okay, Downey it is Don Carnage, hooray, Gainey didn’t lose Downey…he didn’t panic and we can’t wait to watch Downey next year when he scores a goal in the first half, and follows that up with an assist in the second half of the season. Yup, Montreal, home of the two goal millionaires….

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  140. #140 Guy#10
    February 27, 2007 am28 7:13 pm

    DO YOU KNOW WHY HIGGINS IS NOT PLAYING??????

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  141. #141 Hab-a-dab-a-do
    February 27, 2007 am28 7:25 pm

    He has the Flu

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  142. #142 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 7:28 pm

    Hey Don Carnage, we didn’t trade Kovalev so he can go back to his prima donna ways and get stupid penalties? For that Bob didn’t panic cause that is our long term future? Kovalev in the penalty box at the worst times in a game? HUH???

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  143. #143 Xhabsfan
    February 27, 2007 am28 7:47 pm

    Yo, whats up ? miss any thing? lol…

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  144. #144 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 7:54 pm

    Hey L55 yes, let us not give up our great future for rental players who might fit in and actually help us win and sign long term contracts. The league is full of rental players. During Montreal’s dynasty all of our greats were rental players, hey it is part of winning.

    But no, we sign long term contracts with underachievers. Yes why trade our future for another season rollercoaster rides, you know get that five goal lead only to kiss it away in the third when Koivu turns a 5 on three to a power play….

    Yes, let us not think about winning but enjoy a more secure future as losers…

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  145. #145 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:01 pm

    Someone here believes this?

    “Yes Don since Bob Gainey runs a very secret organization, he is just a top secret General Manager. Yes it was a tough day, Pittsburgh offered both Crosby and Ovechkin for Samsonov, but hey Gainey had to make the call. Now we’ll never know will we?

    Your on crack dude seriously

    You make it sound like trades are one sided we say you take x and we take y

    MMMM news flash you dont say what you give and what you get, you offer and see what counter comes back , I look around here and all I see are what you say the other teams should have taken… just dont work that way

    And wow you guys can predict the next ten years cool you must all be rich, I mean you guys know everything in advance makes placeing bets a breeze, wish I had your foresight.

    I think that Sheldon and Bob had a chat and Bob would have traded him if he was not pretty damn sure that he was not going to sign , like Ryan out west it was clear that he was not going to sign and was traded, I think we will see Sheldon here next year…but all you guys all ready know everything in advance so who wins the cup ? How many games? and who scores the cup winning goal?

    I want to be know it alls like you !

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  146. #146 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:09 pm

    Now you know how the leaf fans feel like over the years. Montreal is heading the same way.

    The fans suffer the players don’t. Their millions will keep them happy.

    I’m sick of the Habs. I realy am. The Fans have to stop going to the games. Stop buying merchandize etc. When the team looses money they may get the point.

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  147. #147 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:11 pm

    PS: Jagr has 23 goals Ryder 21

    One of those boys is at the end of his run … yep just give away anybody is what we see around here …. I see a bright future for thew Habs good young players and talent , not all the guys here now will be here next year, but that dont mean other teams did not try and get some of our younger guys , I am glad the young core was not ripped apart and I am pretty sure we will see some changes in due time.

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  148. #148 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:13 pm

    Well if your sick then go to the Dr.. take a pill, leave go to some other teams blog and cry about it … all people do is complain its funny

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  149. #149 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:16 pm

    Oh geeze, Don, yes let us stay on our losing course. No we can’t be having a GM who makes great trades. Eh Don Carnage? Oh no, we’ll slowly build the team and in ten years we’ll have a crispy bunch of old farts, forty years old and they’ll win the cup for us eh Don Carnage?

    Oh wait, when the league undergoes a scoring glut, Downey will become the league leader with three points…oh ya…yup, Bob Gainey didn’t panic, he slowly built the team…and gee isn’t that moss growing on the side of Johnson’s head?

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  150. #150 The_Vipah
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:18 pm

    Maybe people complain because the team sucks? Maybe they complain because they pay money to watch games, buy merchandise and the team *still* sucks. That in the last 14ish years this team has done nothing but toe the line of mediocrity? Maybe we’re tired of lip service like “bright future” and “a core of good young talent”. Neither of those things is anywhere in sight. The Habs havent drafted a real impact player since maybe Koivu, and hes a 70-80 point player tops. Wake up.

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  151. #151 Dan Im Fed UP
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:20 pm

    nice pp

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  152. #152 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:25 pm

    Hey Don Carnage which one is it. In your other post you say you are glad Gainey didn’t give the future away, yet in the response you imply that people can see the future. Which one is it? Because we didn’t give up our youth we have a future? That because we say trade for real NHL players we can see the future? That because we are not in Gainey’s presence we don’t know what really happened, but yet you seem to speak as if you know it all. Well buddy, do us all a favour go on TSN and list the reasons why Gainey didn’t make a great trade today. Come on, put up or shut up, it’s you who should go to some other team, we want a team that wins, not a team that loses. LOSER!

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  153. #153 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:31 pm

    No people complain because it is easy, we are used to winning here thats for sure but not in the last 14 years ..so now that there is a cap in place things will change for all teams, the cup will be won in many different cities, but the truth is no one here has a clue as to what was offered and what was said or done , your all arm chair coaches and GM’s and the ones that cry the loudest around here are what 20 years old? I would say more like 16-18 years old

    It shows !

    Habs need to do what the other teams do finish dead last for 5-7 years get some great picks that way , or build one brick at a time takes years to build a team and thats what I see .

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  154. #154 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:33 pm

    habs didn’t show up AGAIN! I guess this the fuc@#$%^en reason why they kept Souray! So they could lose all their remaining games, not make the playoffs, and also lose Souray for NOTHING!! PATHETIC! HORRIBLE PERFORMANCE!!
    THIS TEAM SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!! They are the WORST example of a professional sports team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  155. #155 Guy#10
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:33 pm

    only a srike can save us now

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  156. #156 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:35 pm

    He did not get a trade that he felt would better the team right now and make a big enough impact for this season ..its rather easy to see .

    Its not like all teams traded today … get a grip its a game after all .

    Loser !

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  157. #157 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:35 pm

    So Don Carnage, from your great wisdom, if Pittsburgh can connect the dots does that mean their GM is better than Gainey, cause gee it looks like Gainey can’t seem to connect the dot X to the dot Y. Hmm…maybe someone forgot to tell him, hey a GM makes trades. That is the fact of life in the NHL. Players come and go, but someone forgot to tell Bob and Guy that eh? Most of all it looks like Don Carnage seems to think its the old conspiracy against Bob Gainey, yup, Gainey wanted the players to adopt an orphan chinese baby and contribute a million dollars to charity as conditions but hey, Crosby just could’nt find a nanny, so Gainey had to let him go, is that it Don Carnage? Or something like that? If there is anyone on crack or mood altering drugs its you Don Carnage, you seem to think you are in the same room as Gainey while he makes a million calls to a million teams offering great deals and benefits, but only to have Gary Bettman going around sabotaging the trades, oh wait, we forgot to include the taxman and Lapresse…what other great excuses can we make for Bob Gainey not playing the part of a GM?

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  158. #158 habs suck
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:36 pm

    What a disgrace. Fire Carbo-this guy is out of his league as a coach. Bring in Pat Burns or a teacher like Dave King.
    4 penalties in a row-no discipline-coach’s fault. Worst habs team since 84-85-at least that team did something in the playoffs. Garth murray for Marcel Hossa-great trade.

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  159. #159 Guy#10
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:36 pm

    I mean only a strike can save us now

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  160. #160 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:38 pm

    I said nothing about what he did or did not do , but I am sure there were plenty of calls made ..

    He took the Stars to the Cup I am sure he can do the same here in time, but not less then 5-7 years

    get a grip little boy its a game .

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  161. #161 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:40 pm

    Is this team playing like they want to make the playoffs? NO IT’s THE OPPOSITE! THEY DON’T GIVE A DAMN! WHY SHOULD WE?
    FUC@#$%^K THEM ALL!

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  162. #162 HaBs4EveR25
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:46 pm

    umm… this team is tired from last nights game? um… we don’t have higgy and lappy really isn’t NHL worthy.

    And yeah they ain’t playing with all that much heart tonight. To think that our next games are gonna be back to back also… we dead :D

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  163. #163 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:48 pm

    How old are you ? 6?

    I mean come on at least hold a conversation , I have been watching this place for a while and we see the insults and name calling and to be honest its a joke to watch some off the things going on here.

    What player do you think would have changed everything for us this year?

    Well maybe a great goalie ok so who could we get ? NO ONE

    Next a center YES !!!

    Which one ?

    at what price ?

    would it have made all the bad go away? NO

    so we stick to the long term plan.

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  164. #164 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:51 pm

    Geeze Don Carnage, he took the stars to the cup, but hey he was busy making trades like some *****! But what is he doing here? NADA!

    By the way, since you were there and you are so smart and senile….the NHL is public, it thrives on the publicity, at least Kevin Lowe came clean, he said he just had no budget.

    Lowe doesn’t make the mistake of signing prima donnas to multi year million dollar contracts, most of the oilers are friggen welfare cases!

    The Habs rely on seat sales for their revenue, there is no other more pressing need to create a winning team than ever before. If our GM cannot take us out of a 14 year glut, there may not be another 14 years of hockey in Montreal.

    And for what? Because old farts like Don Carnage are only too happy to let old farts like Gainey off scot free! That is why.

    Teams like Montreal under a cap and revenue sharing agreements cannot afford to make great losses. Nor can they continue to pay the likes of Kovalev and Koivu for ****** performances!

    You don’t need to be a friggen couch potatoe whining wannabee GM like you are Don Carnage to know that GM’s need to take advantage of the trade deadline to acquire players to win.

    Rental players are the key in the new NHL.

    And this thing about not know who made calls or didn’t? That is ****!

    We don’t have to be in the room with Gainey to know he didn’t do ****!

    He came out and said it in Nashville that he was not going to shop around. Wake up Don Carnage, and smell your bad mouth brown nosing breath! And Bob Gainey asks you to take your nose outta his butt cause he’s constipated now Don Carnage….here have some toilet paper.

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  165. #165 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:57 pm

    I’M FINNISHED. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF A BUNCH OF LOOSERS. NO ONE IN THE HABS MANAGEMENT CARES BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MILLIONARES. THE MONEY KEEP THEM HAPPY AND THE PLAYERS TOO. IT IS THE FANS THAT GET STRESSED OUT.

    THE HABS WILL NEVER GET ANOTHER CUP. THE LEAFS WILL BEFORE THEY WILL. THIS HABS TEAM IS A DISGRCE TO THE HABS OF OLD.

    THE SEASON IS OVER.

    I HAVE BEEN A HABS FAN FOR OVER 37 YRS. I NEVER FELT THIS WAY BEFORE. GAINEY SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THE FANS YOU ARE PUTTING US OVER THE EDGE.

    NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY GOOD BYE………

    IF THEY NEVER WIN ANOTHER GAME I WILL BE HAPPY. GOOD ON THEM…..

    THAT ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE ASHAMMED OF THEMSELVES. IT THE FANS THAT PAY THEM THIER MILLIONS……

    I DON’T KNOW WAHT TO SAY ANYMORE. I AM LOST FOR WORDS.

    I HAVE FINNALY LOST IT. AND LOST ALL FAITH IN THE HABS. NO MORE FOR ME. IT IS NOT WORTH THE STRESS OR THE HEADACHE OR MY TIME TO TYPE THIS.

    GOOD BYE HABS AND GOOD RIDDINS……………….

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  166. #166 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:58 pm

    Yes Don Carnage we stick to the long term plan of seeing Montreal lose another major league team. Yup, we stick to our long term plan of losing eh Don Carnage? Hey Laraques told TSN that he was waiting for Montreal to make an offer! What did Gainey do? nothing….Guerin also said he thought more teams would bid on him. Honestly, and there were many players who thought Montreal would make bids for them. But did Gainey do anything? Nope.

    Sorry Don Carnage, you are happy to be a loser, fine enjoy your losses. While the rest of us push for change and hope Montreal becomes the winner it should be, you my friend would say Ninnima and Downey are there to save us, with their six points total each, they will save us, cause we are sticking to the long term plan, the plan that says one day six points will be big in the NHL! Oh yes Don Carnage, talk about being in denial and ignorant!

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  167. #167 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 8:59 pm

    You really are a rude little boy and so tough behind your computer! WOW

    He drafted the stars to the cup made some moves when needed and thats all , no one know ahead of time how a trade will work out no one at all ever , unless we are talking about players like The Great One , The Magnificent One, Jagr a few years back , Crosby ect ect

    Other then that it is always a **** shoot , you just never know untill they are there and have played for a while, I think it is safe to say that guys we dont what he anymore well some of us are not really in high demand this time of year, we know who they are , we will see what the team looks like in 2 years, then your tune will change.

    But not your manners that I am sure of your stuck being rude for the rest of your super tough internet life .

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  168. #168 The_Vipah
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:01 pm

    Welp. This team is done. The play you see out there tonight is a classic example of the two NEW (last 14 yrs anyways) eternal facts for Habs fans.

    1) There will never be ANY hope of success while the current management is in place. The team knows this, thats why they are packing it in tonight. They were probably hoping for some help, instead they lost a long time serving member and true team player (Rivet) and got nothing in return. How can I be sure the first round pick will turn into nothing? Check the last 14+ years if you’re unsure.

    2) Junk players that we trade for junk players will ALLWAYS come back to haunt us. See junk player #4587 Marcel Hossa tonight.

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  169. #169 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:04 pm

    The truth is, whether we have a lousy team(which we do), or not, management doesn’t care. Do you know why? Because the fans will still pay big bucks(idiots), for tickets to watch these losers play. the games are always sold out. So Gillette makes money even when the team stinks up the joint(which they’ve done all season). I wish people wouldn’t buy tickets, so there would be alot of empty seats, and Gillette would see our malcontent.
    This team is not worthy of our support, and we deserve a better product on the ice.
    As I watched this game(which I am no longer watching), I am filled with anger and despair, because of would could have been, and can no longer support this mundane, lethargic phony players. They look loke they’re skating in sand, but without the skates! Gainey, how in your right mind, can you present this imitation of a hockey team? They are simply pathetic!
    We, as fans, need to protest this sorry excuse of a team!

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  170. #170 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:06 pm

    Don’t worry The_Vipah be happy Don Carnage has a long term plan for the Habs. One day when six point Habs are king, you know when the rest of the league basically goes to hell in a handbasket and six points wins you a cup and you get paid two million dollars a year to make six point seasons, we’ll be there. Yes, Don Carnage says don’t worry.

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  171. #171 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:07 pm

    Well thats one reason we dont need to trade young players anymore and antother good reason not to sign anyone in a hurry , short of a great goaltender there was not realy anyhting for Montreal to look for , maybe a good center but at what cost?

    Like I posted above no one has said what players we needed that would have made it all right , its easy to say get rid of this guy that guy who said anyone was asking about this guy that guy ?

    Thats what makes me laugh …

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  172. #172 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:09 pm

    Geeze Don Carnage, wake up and smell your BS! I guess you don’t bother to read the posts before, yesterday and all year! You are pathetic, totally out to lunch you know that?

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  173. #173 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:14 pm

    Oh ya, last year’s great move was Downey, so according to your post that Gainey is doing exactly like he did in Dallas, trade wisely, then I guess that makes Downey pretty big on the radar then. HMM…..looks like someone got caught in a pretty bad comparision here boy….

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  174. #174 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:15 pm

    The posts here are as funny as the idiots on tv shooting their mouths off all the time, then saying no no we need to keep our young players, but had said trade trade days before, the real problem for the Habs are the people that cry and complain all the time, the constant nagging and bitching and pressure on the players , to play here you got to not watch the tv or read newspapers or read blogs from the cry baby so called fans more like fanatics ie: retarded morons like you.

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  175. #175 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:19 pm

    Oh wait we forgot to give Gainey credit for the wise moves in the summer, not only Downey is gonna lead us as part of the long term plan where six point forwards help you win a cup, but also great forwards like Ninnima, oh wait did I say Ninnima was a forward….oh and don’t forget Samsonov….oh yes, those are great Dallas type moves by Gainey in the long term plan where ten point forwards work with six point forwards to win us a cup! Oh yes, you heard it here first from Don Carnage…

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  176. #176 Dalley1
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:20 pm

    FOR GOODNESS SAKES BOYS LET IT BE. LET IT REST. WHY BEAT A DEAD HORSE. THE HABS ARE TOAST AND ALWAYS WILL BE UNDER THIS MANAGEMENT. MOVE ON AND GET A LIFE. SPEN MORE TIME WITH YOUR FAMLIES. IF THIS IS ALL THAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO DO THEN YOU ARE ALL LOOSERS AS WELL. MYSELF INCLUDED. THEY ARE THE ONES LIVING THE GOOD LIFE. DRIVING 100,000.00 CARS, MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ETC. WHILE WE FIGHT AMONG EACH OTHER. COME ON BOY SMELL THE COFFEE.

    WELL I’M OUT OF HERE. GET A LIFE PEOPLE. I KNOW THAT I WILL FIND ONE.

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  177. #177 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:24 pm

    Yes Don Carnage has confirmed the oft heard conspiracy in Montreal, yes fans who work together to make sure no great players come. Yes we en masse when we heard Laraques was thinking Montreal, we pushed Pittsburgh to get him, oh yes, we the horrible fans. That is a classic Don Carnage, yes, because Montreal has been cursed with **** GMs blame their lacklustre business skills on the fans and the media for complaining that the GMs are ****….oh yes, we can’t blame the GMs for being **** now can we?

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  178. #178 R habs 4 real
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:24 pm

    Honestly, I think we should all march down to Gainey’s office and protest. WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS MEDIOCRITY ANYMORE! CARBO is a lousy coach, and GAINEY is an even worse GM. I guess Joshtm was right. We do get all the broke down players nobody else wanted. Today was a perfect example of that. we took a goalie, who has played a grand total of 4 NHL games, and has been traded 4 times this year already. Yes, he’s certainly going to help us(joke).
    Then there was Samsonov, who couldn’t find a taker even when he was put on waivers. Kovalev , who rangers couldn’t wait to unload, because he never shows up, or Aebishit, who couldn’t stop a beach ball. And Bonk, who couldn’t make it in Ottawa. And the list goes on and on. ALL THESE PLAYERS ARE REJECTS!!!!!!
    I have been a fan of this team for almost 40 years, but enough is enough.
    No efforts have been made to improve this team in the last 15 years!
    I can’t take the mediocrity, and losing anymore. There just isn’t anything about this team to look forward to. There future is BLEAK!
    I’m not going down with this ship. I’m going to look for an organization that cares about it’s fans, and one that wants a winner and will take the appropriate steps to make sure that happens.

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  179. #179 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:28 pm

    Hey where are you Kovalev lovers from the night before, HUH? Come on, come on here now and point out when Montreal should handicap itself at trade time, when great rental players are available, why we are stuck with this ****?

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  180. #180 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:29 pm

    I said its all a **** shoot no one knows ahead of time what a player will turn out like in the long run, no one ever has , how many teams have drafted in the first round and never seen those players live up to it? ALL of them how many times have trades gone wrong > all the time in all teams tell me that Colorado got a better deal with Theo? yeah right

    It happens all the time no one knows what players will really do untill they are there , if they did no one could ever make a trade it just would not be possible because everyone would know the future

    sounds like people around here they know exactly what trades to make all the time !!! just too easy all you have is 20/20 hindsight and a big mouth

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  181. #181 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:39 pm

    Big difference here Don Carnage, and go back to your Laffs blog by the way. Big difference, here in Montreal when a player has a six point season we pay them two million dollars, we renew their contract. Instead of trying to find better players at trade time Montreal just goes ahead and rewards mediocre players like Dandy and Boully, and gives Downey a million more than he is worth, watch Gainey is gonna sign him for a million and a half.

    It doesn’t take 20/20 hindsight my friend its called common sense. If you trade for **** players you shuffle them on, that’s what the rest of the league does. You don’t need to be an armchair GM to know that one, but hey someone forgot to tell Don Carnage, if you buy something thats broken you take it back to the store, to get a replacement, but oh no, not with Don Carnage, it’s not the stores fault, they were there making a million phone calls, or we don’t know, but you know, you plan for the future with your broken cup, never mind if you cut your lip on it eh Don Carnage, oh no, while the rest of the world shuffles broken down cups, Montreal rewards them with millions of dollars eh Don? Cause its only a **** shoot eh?

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  182. #182 Dan
    February 27, 2007 am28 9:55 pm

    The Canadians probably didn’t deserve to win tonight, but can anyone tell me how they earned 7 penalties against only one for NY? I didn’t watch the game, just the box score. It seems they always get the short end of the stick with penalties. No one can tell me that one team earned 7 to 1 in penalties. This is ****, and that’s why bowling gets higher ratings on TV in the USA over hockey. Hockey is percieved as being an unfair, badly referred game, with no control over idiots like Chris Neil.

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  183. #183 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 10:04 pm

    Thats true it is not very even when the calls are made thats for sure …seems all year it was like that for the Habs but tonight they did not show but that somehow is Carbo’s fault and Bob

    Yeah those guys played like that!!! yeah right

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  184. #184 Gui-Unit
    February 27, 2007 am28 10:13 pm

    Disappointing game, but look at the bright side, The leafs lost 6-1 against the Sabres, Carolina lost 4-2 against the Sens,but the Isles beat the Flyers in overtime and this ties the Habs at the 7th spot.We’re are still in playoff range. Anyways, all we can do right now is pray.

    GO HABS GO!!

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  185. #185 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 10:18 pm

    Hey Dan and Don Carnage, the players don’t draft or sign themselves to the team, its the GM and sometimes the coach who decides who goes or stays. For that if Montreal only has players who don’t want to skate that extra step and who are just too happy to do the quick and dirty hook, or hey cause they don’t know how to play position very well, they end up being caught out of sync with the play, and voila, you get Koivu, and Kovalev’s school of hookem tripem hockey!

    The refs are basically given a silver platter and they love picking on Montreal….do they ever love picking on Montreal. Granted Gainey and Carbo are not on the ice forcing them to get hooking penalties, but hey if it wasn’t for Carbo and Gainey they wouldn’t be playing next to players who can’t make it anywhere and who don’t deserve to be in the NHL for one, or they are unfortunate to be paired up with crappy wingers.

    Montreal can’t seem to select players who can play well together, sure you get the magic sometimes between Ryder and Koivu, but hey the rest of the game they are busy getting stupid penalties.

    Why the denial? We all know Koivu is lazy, we all know Kovalev is a hissy fit ******, they deserve to be in the box most of the time.

    But really, then you get those awful calls like the last game where Stajan basically tried to injure Begin and Begin ended up getting the penalty or last week the stupid elbow penalty when the other player basically ran into that one, like the old saying, I didn’t punch him, his face just went up to my hand, but honestly even Cherry commented that was a bad call and Montreal does indeed get picked on cause they are lazy.

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  186. #186 Joshtm
    February 27, 2007 am28 10:38 pm

    Hey Don Carnage,Sorry about that im a real douchbag, mybad, I had my head so far upthere all i could type was insults. I Like to poke chickens while riding a John Dear. My normal day consists of painting my 12 yr old body in the montreal colors and running around the mental institute spanking it vigoursly.

    So There,

    Im Da Loser

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  187. #187 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:02 pm

    To Joshtm: I’m sorry for insulting you. You really make alot of sense.
    I have alot of problems, and when I take my meds, I make idiotic comments that make no sense. I think your comments are very intelligent,and I wish you were the GM of this team. You’re right. Bob Gainey is a real bad GM, as has made huge blunders. It really was a shame he didn’t trade some of his deadwood. Now, we have no chance of making the playoffs. In future, please disreguard any of my tirades and illiterate comments. I promise to listen to you, and heed what you say. Again, I apologize for being so rude. I guess I am the ***, and deserve any negativity directed my way. I actually do have a big mouth, but I will try hard to keep quiet.

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  188. #188 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:07 pm

    strange people can post and use our names how cute

    Show how good this site really is eh

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  189. #189 habs2go
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:08 pm

    Have we won any 2nd games of back to back games? I don’t think so.
    Next game, they should spread sand on the ice, because they like to skate in sand. This year, that is their trademark, and taking penalties the whole game.

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  190. #190 Iceberg14
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:23 pm

    i love the habs as much as anyone in here..but let’s wake up and face the truth…bob gainey our gm has no faith in this team this year and he proved it by doing nothing deadline day to help us today tommorow or next year…if the gm gives up, we might as well too, because its’ no coincidence that the 2 teams who sell out every game win or lose year after year and always the 2 teams who management don’t do a damn thing to help make a playoff run..i am sad and going to bed..i miss huet

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  191. #191 Iceberg14
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:25 pm

    ps the other team is toronto, but even they picked up perrault and at least their coaches didn;t blame their goalie for having an awful team and we left huet out to dry this year

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  192. #192 mike
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:40 pm

    So much for the playoffs. Watching Abby & Halak on back to back nights isn’t goodfor my heart. See the first five minutes of the Leaf game last night? The one thing that can carry you in the playoffs is a hot goalie, which we clearly don’t have. Through in 5-6 stupid penalties per game with a nonexistent PK and it = first round four game sweep. If they make the playoffs. At least the first three months were fun.

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  193. #193 Greg
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:53 pm

    What would the ultimate Trade for the Habs been????? Any ideas anyone??

    I’m sick of our Habs being a team always in the middle of the eastern conference fighting for the last playoff spot. I heard reports about florida looking to rebuild for the future so gainey should have tried to trade a package or something. Like Rivet (a great mentor to young defensemen), Perezhogin, and Samsonov or something. That would have freed up some cap room and maybe we could have had a chance at a guy like Olli Jokinen or Roberts. WHat has Perezhogin and Samsonov done anyway this year other then get a billion penelties and skate around the net 5 times only to lose the puck. I can’t wait till we get someone smart at GM, someone who will take chances to get marquee players and bring the pride back to being a Hab. Lecalvier and Crosby both loved this team as a kid, I’m sure they would play for the Habs if persueded enough. I know I’m dreaming.. I like some of our young players we have now but lets face it… what young player/prospect in the Montreal Orginization has a chance to be a Marquee Player.. I have a long shot guess at Higgins and maybe Ryder but thats all I figure. I don’t know what gainey should have done… but I know it wasn’t nothing at all. O sorry I meant Josh Gorges and Micheal Leighton… Or wait nvm… NOTHING AT ALL!!

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  194. #194 Don Carnage
    February 27, 2007 am28 11:57 pm

    I think there will be a suprise before next year starts dont think Tampa can afford what they have now.

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  195. #195 stevejur
    February 28, 2007 am28 12:23 am

    You know what guys we should thank Bob and the rest of upper management.
    Now at least we know not to spend money on this garbage team. 4-0 to the Rangers,
    PATHETIC! I recorded the game and fast forwarded till we got a powerplay.
    I knew 5 on 5 we can’t score so why waist time.

    Thanks Bob I won’t be going to anymore games and I suggest you all do the same.
    The reality is the 100 year anniversary is around the corner and this team should have already been built to win.
    Unfortunatly at this rate we’re still 5 years behind.
    This will be my last post on this site this season,
    just as Bob Gainey has shown today and so am I, I’m through with this year and this team.

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  196. #196 Xhabsfan
    February 28, 2007 am28 12:44 am

    Bob Gainey and the coaching staff are just displaying the canadiens tradition of taking care of their players by backing them, you know ,solidarity . As X players for the organization,the same courtesy was also bested to them. That being said ,you can be sure if the Habs **** out in the last 17 or so games they will be a big change to the core of veterans in the off season.Veterans to be staying will be :Souray and Markov resigned for sure ,Bonk ,captain Koivu ,Higgy ,Komasarik ,Ryder and Huet. Most of the new guy’s will be around”the future “all so. Walking papers through trades for most of da rest. There will be new Bulldogs added as well as some surprises . Its all part of the procedure to perfecting the puzzle,so hang on Hab fans, the real fun is coming real soon ,so buckle up and don’t worryboutit. Hell, we gots fun coming to finish off this season,win or lose,enjoy and stay vocal ,it shows you care and have the highest of standards and so you should ,your CANADIENS FANS !!!!

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  197. #197 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 1:04 am

    Koivu is part of the problem, but, hey Gainey honestly believes this bunch can do it. If Gainey got rid of Koivu and Kovalev to New York for Smyth that would be a real plus. But Gainey doesn’t have heart.

    Bob Gainey and the coaching staff do not back their players. Where was Gainey or Carbo recently in the dirty games where our players were basically steamrolled with real intent to injur? No where. Lydsay Ruff showed class but what did Bettman do, fine him.

    No I think come the summer and fall, this sad bunch will suit up again to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Koivu will have perfected his ability to turn a 5 on 3 into a powerplay for the other team. Downey will get a raise, so will Markov.

    But do you think Gainey will reward Pleks or Bonk? No, we may even see them demand a trade, or even appeal to the board of govenors for a trade. Gainey is gonna hope we forgot the rookies and send them packing back down to the farm. Huet and Abby will be back, allowing floater easy shots in.

    Friday’s game against Buffalo will be a preview of what to expect next year, much of the same. Kovalev getting stupid penalties early in the game. Koivu destroying momentum by getting even more. What kind of phoqued up leadership is that?

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  198. #198 habs phan
    February 28, 2007 am28 2:12 am

    oh oh!!! should i push the panic button now or wait until next week. AHHHHHH!!!! screw it. i’m pushing it right now. a loss against the rangers is pretty sad, sure it’s a back to back game and the boys may have been tired but “the rangers”. come on!!!! what the hell happened??? march is gonna be really tough for the habs and i was hoping we could beat the teams we should. not get shut out by them. sabres, thrashers, penguins, senators this upcoming month and don’t forget our new nemesis the islanders. march is gonna be a battle. are the habs ready to fight for a playoff spot?? if they get in, will they have enough energy to go on and suceed in the first round?? questions that only time will answer. i would like to believe that they will go far. maybe even make it further then the first round. maybe i am dreaming in technicolor, maybe we will wake up and start playing hockey like we know we can. who knows!!! nothing but the best in march boys, good luck. your gonna need it!!!!

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  199. #199 habsrule07
    February 28, 2007 am28 6:09 am

    Well, Souray is here for the playoff run – however, he will not be a Hab after July 1, unless – nope there is no ‘unless’ – he’s gone!

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  200. #200 smiler2729
    February 28, 2007 am28 9:43 am

    Do you really want Gainey to make a deal just to make a deal? What if any deals offered all sucked for the Habs? You people should all just relax!

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  201. #201 stevieboy
    February 28, 2007 am28 10:23 am

    Instead of making the team better with some deals, Bob has managed to ´trade down’. Always thinking about the future, some first round pick, might make a small difference in 5 years, bla bla.
    They are really just hoping to make the playoffs, get paid, and wait for next year. Any big deal would be considered to be a loss of money because anyways they will just barely make the playoffs (so they hope) and lose on the first round — with or without an added big name.
    Instead of building a team for 2012, why dont we clean the house a little bit and try to make a run at the cup next year for Christ’s sake!

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  202. #202 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:20 am

    The only guys I liked were on the trade date were Seabrook, Guerin, and Smyth. Smyth and Guerin would have added some grit and leader ship for the young guys and Seabrook for depth and confidence on D. Maybe a Vet Goalie…

    Smyth: according to what NYI paid it probably would have cost us Mikhail Grabovski, Sergi Kostitsyn, and 1st rounder… a big cost to our future.

    Guerin: Cost to us comparitively (Johnson, Bonk or Lapierre), Young prospect like Ben Maxwell?, and 1st rounder.

    Seabrook: cost us alot… Young, cheap and talented but Does address our need for consistancy on Offense.

    When the first 2 guys went I was not looking for much movement and like smiler suggested we did not need to make a desparation deal which would cost us. Example Sammy and Nimmi…

    We have a young team with good positioning in this years draft this fact should not be lost in Bob’s decision. Lets see if this team can grow…

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  203. #203 Scott
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:48 am

    JoshTm you r being a little dramatic. DC you are the ultimate fence sitter. These Habs had Carolina down and couldn’t (Cam Ward, Koivus’ eye) finish off the EVENTUAL CHAMPS. The reality of the “new NHL” is parity. Any team that makes the playoffs can go on a roll. Put teams with deep passion (Mon, Edm, Cal, and yes even the idiot Leafs) in a playoff atmosphere with their respective cities working themselves into a frenzy = anything can happen in the playoffs. What all of you seem to be missing is that HUET got hurt at a lousy time and Montreal HAD to do what Edm.did last year and grab a goalie to HOPE to ride on a crazy hot streak and play total team hockey. At all costs Abeicher should have been dumped for a pick and a descent D-man and a rent-a-goalie or/and a future anchor goalie. Would have been THE ONLY hope for this mediocre team with a lack of identity, confidence. Gainey didn’t pull it off I’m not going to jump off a $&^$ bridge. Price, Ryder, Higgins, Perez, Kost, Kommie, Chipchura, Grabovski, Plekanec, Streit, and more. Pl. don’t any of you say that there is no hope, Gainey only inherited this f%^%ing mess 2+ years ago. Last thought — Monteal has a confidence dilemna and a person close the org. says that the team is terrified to make mistakes because a certain coach goes into manical tirades. Trying not to point fingers, does anybody know anything about Carbos’ treatment of his players? Seems nobody gets along with him.
    Just Finish off the MAKE ME LAUGHS!!!

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  204. #204 Scott
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:54 am

    I meant Abby dumped and in a SEPARATE deal(s) a new goalie for prospects/picks and a D-man for picks NOT all for Abby- he probably couldn’t fetch a Glen Healy rookie card! LOL

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  205. #205 Habs#1
    February 28, 2007 am28 12:36 pm

    Bob Gainey is a coward. He does not have the guts to stand up to the french media and the masses of fans who demand to make the playoffs every year regardless of wether it’s 8th place or not.

    This team’s veteran corps can’t get it done. If the Oilers can get a package like that for Ryan Smyth the Habs easily could have gotten something bigger for Souray. Abby and Bonk should have been peddeled and Kovalev should have been put on waivers.

    This team should be building for when Halak and Price are hitting their stride as proffesional goalies in 2-3-4 years(it takes a while for goalies to develop just like defenceman). They need big strong canadian kids, especially up the middle. Gainey is not doing that.

    I hope all of you who wanted to keep Souray enjoy your last 17 games watching him in a Habs uni. He’s gone July 1rst. And the Habs won’t get anything for him.

    Bob Gainey no longer has the stomach for this job. Unless he does something miracoulous at the draft I’ve lost all confidence in him.

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  206. #206 Aurel1
    February 28, 2007 am28 12:43 pm

    It would be interesting to see what the Habs were offered for Souray. Even if the Habs are able to resign Souray and Markhov this summer that will leave little or no money to sign anyone else, certainly not a free agent like Briere who would help their anaemic offence. We will be basically left with the same team that is presently struggling to make the play-offs. If either or both decide to leave we will have the money to sign someone, however, we could have had a couple of young guns or draft picks as well if a trade had been made.

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  207. #207 coutNY_HabsFan
    February 28, 2007 am28 1:09 pm

    I think last nights loss had something to do with stamina. They looked out of gas. I think it takes alot out of the team when they play the high intense games especially back to back nights. You can see this when you look at the penalties they took in their own offensive zone. Not an excuse, but more of an observation. They never play well after a good intense game.

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  208. #208 Jack Tornton
    February 28, 2007 am28 1:50 pm

    HABS PLAYED A TERRIFIC GAME. I just try to keep myslef from insulting people that don’t make unlike some people in this site, and it works perfectly I agin respect rather than be disliked.

    I just want to say Habs put in a great effort in yesterday’s game.

    REASONS:

    1) They played their most physical game of the year against the leafs.

    (They finally acknowledge Habs’ fans were dying for a win against the leafs, and they accomplished their mission.)

    2) They arrived at 3 o’clock of the morning to New York. That basically means they did not sleep a minute before 3 a.m.

    3) Chris Higgins out because of flu

    4) KOSTITYN PLAYED LIKE HE WAS A PEE WEE PLAYER

    SUM-UP: They were fatigued after playing their most physical game, and arriving at 3 a.m. to New York did not help them at all. Higgins was out of the line-up, and the coach probably had a hard time making up the line-ups.
    THE CHEMISTRY DID NOT WORK AT ALL.

    So… now the question comes at:

    1)Are we to blame the coach??????
    my answer: NO! (well he was tired too and after all he made up his lines and he does not have the power to control the team on the ice)

    2) Are we to blame the players????
    my answer: NO! ( except for Kostityn and Perexoghin)

    3) Are we to balme Bob Gainey?????
    my answer: NO! ( He got us a skilled and young d-man and a 1st round draft pick for Rivet who 90% of the bloggers believed was useless)
    …..AND BOB GAINEY IS NOT DUMB ENOUGH TO AQUIRE A SKILLED PLAYER FOR OUR FUTURE DRAFT PICKS AND OUR YOUGSTERS.

    Sincerely,
    Jack Tornton

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  209. #209 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 3:12 pm

    Yes, that is a good point. We are too hard on the habs. I guess compared to other teams, on some nights they shine, and like last night they show how lacklustre they have been. For us fans, the season has been a rollercoaster with lacklustre standing out more than the great games.

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  210. #210 R habs 4 real
    February 28, 2007 am28 3:27 pm

    I agree with HABS#1: If you read my posts on Monday night, following the habs win over the leafs, You’ll see that several times I stated my views on whether to keep Souray or trade him. I vehemently stated: TRADE HIM, TRADE HIM! It’s for the future of this franchise. In fact, Xhabsfan kept arguing with me, saying we should keep him,and I insisted that we must trade him for the good of this organization. We could have gotten: a player off the other team’s roster, 2 #1 picks and possibly more. Besides, even if we had traded him, he still could have resigned with us in the summer. People forget that.
    Alot of rentals like Guerin and Thacuk, are most likely going to resign in the summer, with their old teams. It’s like a gentleman’s agreement between player and management. Why didn’t Gainey ask permission from Souray to trade him for a couple of months, and to resign after?
    GAINEY doesn’t have the guts or the balls to do what’s necessary to improve this team , for the future. Edmonton’s Sather has guts. He traded away his captain, Smyth, the heart of the team, because he knew he probably couldn’t sign him, and LOOK AT ALL THE PICKS AND PLAYERS HE GOT IN RETURN! I give Sather full marks. That’s courage for the good of the organization.
    But Gainey is a WIMP, GUTLESS, and cares more about the short term than the long run.
    I looked at the habs schedule; it’s very tough. Chances of making the playoffs with the players they have, is not very good, almost impossible. And even if they barely squeeze in, what then? all that, only to be eliminated by the SABRES in 4 straight. And did Gainey really think that obtaining a career minor league goalie would put his team over the top? Does he think the fans are stupid, or so gullible?
    And for about 90% of the trades made yesterday, all the buyers had to give was usually a 2nd round pick! Don’t you think we could have managed that?
    And who’s to say, that we wouldn’t have resigned that rental player in the summer. Gainey chose the safe and cowardly way out.
    Keenan said on TSN yesterday, that some GM’s, (like Gainey), look at their roster all day, thinking everything is ok, and never make trades!
    That’s our Gainey. And if he’s satisfied with this team to make the playoffs, how come teams with more talent, and higher up in the standings, made significant changes to improve their team, while we stood pat? It makes no sense. Gainey said he didn’t want to disturb his young prospects. WHAT PROSPECTS? Price is the only good prospect we have, and gauging by the trades made, we wouldn’t have had to give up much to get a decent player!
    HUGE MISTAKE! HE WILL LIVE TO REGRET IT! ALL THE FANS WILL SUFFER AND SO WILL THIS FRANCHISE! Remember, he’s had all year to go get a 2nd line center.
    He didn’t do it. And now, he’s going to try and tease all the fans, by telling them he will get all the necessary pieces in the summer. But people, he couldn’t get any of the top names to sign last summer, so how is he magically
    going to do that this summer? It won’t happen! Players don’t want to come here. Do you know why? Because Gainey isn’t willing to commit to building a winner at all costs! There’s no commitment from management. After all, it’s been the same scenario for 15 years! We’ve seen this act before! It’s getting old, and we’re not going to wait another 15 years for this management to get off their asses and do something!

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  211. #211 Pico
    February 28, 2007 am28 4:14 pm

    Get serious. Time to face the facts. Who wants to come to Montreal? High personal income tax. High point of sale taxes. Media pressure. Extra pressure if you don’t speak French. Terrible state of the roads.
    Housing is no longer cheap.
    Up and down fans, just like a menstrual cycle…

    Nuff said

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  212. #212 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 4:57 pm

    Looks like we have the Laff trolls trying to convert us into believing that by parading old farts from retirement homes and showing black and white footage of the last stanley cup that the Laffs will be a cup contender.

    So how come with Toronto’s wonderful pluses you don’t have a cup? The most expensive team in the whole of the NHL and you can’t win a cup for all the money in the world? Talk about a true definition of LOSER!!!!

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  213. #213 Jack Tornton
    February 28, 2007 am28 5:09 pm

    Whether your team has money or not, it does no longer matter. There is salary cap. Other than that, LEAFS STILL SUCK.

    Let me tell you guys a joke I saw at http://www.habssuck.com, but I will convert it in my way.

    The creation of Canada
    One day about 3 billion years ago, God approached Jon of Arkansas and told him of a new country he created; Canada. God told Jon that every place would be balanced. Alberta would go through poverty at first before becoming one of the most fiscally sound provinces. British Columbia would have the best weather but lose the basketball team they loved dearly. In the Martimes, the people would lack huge wealth but be extremely nice and courteous.
    “And this province will be the most wonderful place in the country “God said, “It’s called Quebec. It will have the most popular city in the Country, with the most loyal hockey fans, plenty of entertainment, and a sound economy.
    “You said that it would be balanced,” exclaimed Jon “You haven’t made one thing bad about Ontario!”
    “Oh there will be, wait until you see the whiny, selfish ******** I’m putting West to them!”

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  214. #214 scott
    February 28, 2007 am28 6:29 pm

    hey there. thought i’d let you know i made a quick reference to all these comments in midnightpoutine’s weekly blog roundup. there’s a couple of links to other MTL blogs talkin’ all things Habs too. check it out here:
    http://www.midnightpoutine.ca/media/2007/02/this_week_in_blogs_for_feb_28/
    feel free to leave a comment, if you wish.

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  215. #215 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 7:17 pm

    Maybe Guy Carboneau is right, for him the habs are not supposed to be winners. Maybe we are cheering for the wrong Montreal Canadians. Surely not the one Guy Carboneau and Bob Gainey run, cause that one, they are happy with, you know, one that is not guaranteed to finish seventh, that may drop to tenth yet again…or even eleventh. Isn’t that what Gillett pays them to be? Mediocre?

    Anyone know where we can cheer for the other Montreal Canadians? You know the one with Champions?

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  216. #216 stevieboy
    February 28, 2007 am28 7:21 pm

    please keep the commen ts short, everybody had a long day and doesnt want to read 2 pages of opinion, just 1-4 lines of meaningful comments are ok.

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  217. #217 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 7:51 pm

    OUCH! OUCH! I don’t think Gainey and Carbo realized just how they have hurt all of us.

    Pico you are just vicious! Its not the media or fans fault! Carbo treats his players like ****! Gainey doesn’t care! How can you blame the taxman and the media and most of all fans?

    It’s Gainey that brings this **** to Montreal. BLAME THE RIGHT PERSON FOOL!

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  218. #218 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 7:59 pm

    How come we didn’t watch Alexei Kovalev or Sakku Koivu crying as they leave Montreal? That would have been so nice, everyone getting all sentimental about how great Sakku was or Alexei was and how much of a mistake it was for Montreal to trade them away, but did we get that? NO!

    Instead we got to see Ryan Smythe crying today, how come he’s not coming to Montreal? SHAME ON YOU BOB GAINEY!!!!!

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  219. #219 PACTUM SERVA
    February 28, 2007 am28 8:17 pm

    I would agree with you on that one josh.Watch ryan smyth cry like that shows how much heart that guy has, something this team has lacked since muller played here.He would be on the top of my list to sign this summer just by watching him talk today

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  220. #220 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 9:05 pm

    Anyone know a good team I can cheer for? Since Gainey and Carbo don’t care, and cheering for the Habs is pointless, no one sings SHANAHANAA in Montreal no more. No we got those Oh Aye Oh Aye fagots running things. All they care about is watching the other teams winning, cause hey, the tax man, the media and the salary cap are all to hard for Bob Gainey, oh yes, and because you can’t rent a cheap apartment in Montreal. Ya right, as if a multimillionaire hockey player cares how much of a tax break they get, cause when you are that rich taxes just don’t seem to be an issue, so put that one to rest. Or how the media scares them away. Like the Montreal media holds scrums and is like paparazzi! As if.

    Nope, you are all a bunch of pathetic losers who make excuses for the biggest loser of all…Bob Gainey.

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  221. #221 Coco
    February 28, 2007 am28 9:52 pm

    If BG is such a loser, how come you’re not GM Josh?

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  222. #222 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 9:57 pm

    More like why is he still GM more like.

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  223. #223 Don Carnage
    February 28, 2007 am28 10:30 pm

    Because he has something you will never have thats a brain and a heart, the way you insult the man shows just how little self respect you have, to watch you rant like that just proves how much of a real world loser you are.

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  224. #224 dan
    February 28, 2007 am28 10:55 pm

    c’mon, does anyone else except Montreal fans really think hockey is a major league sport? Bowling, anyone?

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  225. #225 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 10:57 pm

    Excuse me? Signing Samsonov, Ninnima, giving Rivet a raise, then trading him and paying it out? That is brains? Destroying Hockey in Hockeytown? That is Heart? That is not smart GM material and most of all very disrespectful to hockey fans you idiot! Don’t you realize you just put your foot in your mouth?

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  226. #226 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:00 pm

    Looks like one of the mental wards is giving free internet access to morons like Don Carnage…what they didn’t give you your pills yet Don?

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  227. #227 dan
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:05 pm

    Just curious, are you guys making any mnoney on hockey? It seems that your life depends on a stupid sport nobody watches south of the border. So many insults for something not worthwhile…amazing. How old are you guys?

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  228. #228 Joshlikesattention
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:22 pm

    Actually this would prob be a more civil site, with average internet griping if it were not for Mr. Josh up there. See, I totally get why every second post is yours josh, i really do. This is a site which does not require registration, nor does it give the ablity for the blog owner to ban you, so you are in your glee are you not?

    When a Troll finds a bridge thats not guarded, that troll makes his home. And from that day on That troll will make it horrible for everyone who may cross it.

    On behalf of everyone who reads this blog, you sir are ignorant, impolite, an just a genral Asshat.

    Oh, just so I dont have to respond to the enivitable ignorant response, no sir you are a loser.

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  229. #229 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:28 pm

    I see Don Carnage thinks he the self appoint guardian of Bob Gainey. Listen Don, your brown nosing just plain sucks. This team needs to trade, it needs better players. Plain and simple. Your **** and your stupid arguments don’t help any now. You are just a plain nasty puke who deserves what he gets. Live with it.

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  230. #230 dan
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:33 pm

    Why Hockey sucks in the eyes of a former Montrealer
    1) Governed by an idiot who couldn’t cut it in the NBA
    2) The guru in charge of disciplinary actions is ***.
    3) Referreed by frustrated Canadians who are still angry they weren’t good enough to make it as a pro.
    4) Your star hockey commentator on National TV looks, acts, and sounds like Bozo the clown… embarassing!
    5) TV ratings were so low on NBC that USA Today organized a Nationwide contest to find the 3 Americans who watched it. Thier were each rewarded a copy of Sports Illustarted swim suit issue!
    6) OLN (!!??!!) dropped televising hockey because…1 of the 3 started watching porn instead.
    7) The 2 guys who actually still like hockey are now busy insulting each other on line. That caused FX to drop televising hockey too.

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  231. #231 Joshtm
    February 28, 2007 am28 11:38 pm

    Anyone who thinks Gainey is doing a great job signing Ninnima, Samsonov and putting up with Kovalev, seems pretty out of touch. While the rest of the world wonders and basically tells it like it is, that there is something wrong in Montreal, we have Guy Carboneau saying there isn’t.

    If you look at what other teams have to play with in salary, Montreal is one of the more wealthier teams, they seem to have rewarded mediocre players who wouldn’t make half a million and pays them through the nose.

    43million dollars? We can’t trade 43 million dollars worth of players? Anywhere else that is a buyers market. But no, Gainey has signed a bunch of losers no one wants. He is not repeating his great feat in Dallas. He has lost it.

    Stop fooling yourselves. Remember that on Thursday and hope that Kovalev decides to play for his keep. Or Jack Todd could say oh wait, Kovalev has a cold, that is why no other team wanted him at this stage because Kovalev has the sniffles. Talk about major denial.

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  232. #232 habs phan
    March 1, 2007 am28 1:13 am

    Heading to quebec city tomorrow to race in the crashed ice event in quebec city. pretty insane contest going on. representing for the habs. check me out!!! Kelowna BC. tricolore baby!!!

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  233. #233 Disappointed HabsFan
    March 1, 2007 am28 7:15 am

    They should have traded Gainey…Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I’m mad, nothing is happening, they’ve given up!!!!!!!!! Man oh man what is happening with this guy (Gainey that is)he sits there doing NOTHING!!!!! Should have at least try to get Biron and in the mean time get rid of Aebisher

    Anyway…very frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  234. #234 Joshtm
    March 1, 2007 am28 9:06 am

    Hey guys:

    I just wanted to apologize for my continual character assassination attempts of Bob Gainey. I was just thinking that it must be tough to perform in such a stressful job shortly after a personal family tragedy when you have crazed, lunatic fans constantly heckling you. I also apologize for turning so many of you against being Habs fans with my constant whining. I have been spending far too much time on this website since I got banned from the casino. I do realize that the Habs are still in a playoff position, and will try to keep my comments to just the facts in the future!

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  235. #235 NO, Josh actually loves attention
    March 1, 2007 am28 9:24 am

    Post # 228 is dead on the mark!

    Let’s go back to talking about something more fun like drinking JD in the cheap seats or how badly Colorado has done since acquiring Theo. This blog actually used to be sort of fun.

    It is not easy to just ignore it when of 235 posts probably 75% are from one deranged person .

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  236. #236 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 9:38 am

    FOR THE LAST TIME JOSH YOU IDIOT! BOB GAINEY DID NOT, NOT, I REPEAT NOT, SIGN JANNE NIINIMAA! HE CAME OVER IN EXCHANGE FOR MIKE “THE WEASEL” RIBEIRO!

    GET OVER THINGS, MAN, IT WOULDN’T MATTER WHO WE TRADED FOR OR SIGNED OR EVEN HAD AS COACH AND GM, YOU WOULD ALWAYS BE NEGATIVE, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!

    I like this team, I like the coach, I’m very pleased with the GM and I can see the Big Picture. I’m 42, I love hockey, I play hockey, in fact I’d rather play hockey (or any sport for that matter) than watch it on TV. I backstopped our team to a Tournament Championship on the weekend and couldn’t watch any hockey last weekend and it doesn’t bother me in the bit but some of you need to get a life, get out of the house, kiss a girl, I mean, it’s fun to be a fan of your favourite hockey team (the Habs) but this constant bashing of everything Montreal Canadiens is so pointless,tiresome and repetitive! If you hate the Habs go start rooting for another more ’successful’ NHL team.

    The fact that Montreal did nothing on Trade Deadline Day is no big deal, it’s not the end of the world. I like the team we have but I just wish they could play better, don’t we all? I like Sheldon Souray and didn’t want him traded and yes, I have every expectation he will return next season. I also like Sergei Samsonov and cheer for him to break out of his pressure-induced funk. I also like Michael Leighton, as a goalie, I’ve read up on him for years and just wish some team would give him a real chance. I like David Aebischer too but lately his play has led me to believe he’s lost his confidence and it is hard to play with a goalie who fights the puck and is a pack of nerves. That intangible to goaltending, once lost, is difficult to regain (witness our old hero Jose Theodore, who’s still struggling in Denver) so I suggest Abby ride the bench as a backup til next season where (if re-signed), I truly hope he regains his goalie mojo!

    See? Where most of you would just **** on the player and want him run out of town, I, like our superb General Manager, take a calmer, SANER, approach. Firing a coach every year and trading a player as soon as they falter is no way to run a class oragnization and that’s what Carbo and Bob are doing so start believing and start having fun as a fan, it’ll make everyone here happier.

    In Bob We Trust…

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  237. #237 Rob
    March 1, 2007 am28 9:44 am

    Does everyone who is now writing the Habs off realize that the Habs are still actually in a playoff position, and are only three points out of the fifth spot?

    Won’t you all be embarrassed if the team chemistry does actually come together this season? What if the teams that picked up a bunch of rental players actually faulter for it?

    What if those Canadiens’ players whose side that Gainey has actually stood by (when all the fans had given up on them) suddenly realize it, and they start playing like they actually give a damn? Won’t you all look pretty stupid with your whining and the-sky-is-falling type comments!

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  238. #238 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 9:48 am

    Does it sound like I’ve written the Habs off? I Believe. That’s the fun of being a fan.

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  239. #239 Rob
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:02 am

    I like that. I Believe.

    Hey Habs Blog:

    I think you should call the next post, “Character building and how the Habs will make the playoffs” so that the more optomistic minded fans also have a chance to have their say for once. It will allow thinking Habs’ fans to counteract the Gainey character assasinations now being perpetrated by the French media types.

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  240. #240 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:06 am

    No kidding, I’m so fed up with the constant whining and tiresome complaining, makes me think Hab fans are as bad as Leaf fans so let’s show WE ARE NOT!

    GO HABS! DIE LEAFS!

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  241. #241 Xhabsfan
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:08 am

    SMILER2729, we are all guilty of bad judgments, one of your’s is your dislike of Ribiero, who by the way is helping Dallas in a huge way. Now all that flack Habs fans gave him took that home town montrealers confidence away, which is a shame cause we could of used him rite now, THE STARS SHURE ARE! So be careful who you throw stones at!!!! ps “I could give a **** about your or anybody else’s view on Ribs at this point ,cause the stats are against you guy’s and it is definity Gainey’s BAD that we have Niinamaa in his place.What a blunder that is, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “

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  242. #242 HABMAN
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:19 am

    Smiler2729 is absolutely right. This site used to be fun to come on here and post some comments but lately it is becoming poisoned by a few(I wont say by who)very negative people that do nothing but nastily critisize management and players in a most barbaric way. Open your eyes people! This is exactly why some players will never sign with Montreal. The fan and media scrutiny is just too overwhelming for some of them and it eats them alive! We all have to calm down (myself included)and find a positive way to support the team through the GOOD times and the BAD times.

    We should all take a page from Smiler2729’s book and follow his lead. The Canadiens are only a small part of our lives (if you have one at all)so get out, enjoy the weather,do something positive and constructive in your life ;) )

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  243. #243 Rob
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:21 am

    Wow, is that fifteen exclamation points? Wow, you must be really angry, Xhabsfan!

    C’mon. For all of Mike Ribeiro’s 42 points (only 10 of which are actually goals), he is still soft as a player! Stick anyone on the Canadiens (even Downey) with Modano, Nagy, Zubov, Boucher, Lindros, Lentinen, etc. and chances are they will touch the puck a few times before someone else puts it into the net too.

    Here is a little saying that might help you: What’s done is done! Deal with it, and get on with life. No sense in crying over spilt milk. Anyone else have any catch phrases that would fit here?

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  244. #244 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:23 am

    Ribeiro, no matter what he does in Dallas, was a disruption on the Canadiens, his selfishness was massive and he had to go. His antics (soccer-style faking of ‘injuries’) was an embarrassment to his teammates, his coach, the organization and all the fans.

    Janne Niinimaa was a good quality offensive defenceman in Philadelphia and Edmonton who thru stops in Long Island and Dallas seemed to have lost something. Gainey was hoping he could regain some form (I really don’t think he is that awful but I’m not Guy Carbonneau)… Again, Niinimaa was a one season chance but anything to get Ribs out of town was worth it. No other team wanted Ribeiro’s act so basically Dallas and Montreal traded each other’s problems to one another. Two defencemen lead the Stars in scoring, what does that tell you about their offence? They have become New Jersey Devils West, the fact that Mike Ribeiro gets a lot of assists there is inconsequential to him having becoming an ‘unwanted’ in the Canadiens’ dressing room.

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  245. #245 Rob
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:24 am

    Xhabsfan:

    If what you are actually saying is that Montreal fans need to stop eroding the confidence of the players on their CURRENT team, I would agree strongly with that statement.

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  246. #246 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:31 am

    Look, the bottom line on Mike Ribeiro is that he is young guy who obviously and hopefully matures in the sportsmanship department and becomes a good teammate (he burned bridges in Montreal) and is a talented but small forward which the Habs didn’t need two of (Saku Koivu being the other small talented forward) so he was moved to make room for the growth of Tomas Plekanec which has shown to be a good thing. I wasn’t a Plekanec guy but he has swayed me over and I see him getting better and better with the increased ice time and roles he’s been given on the team. In the end, Tomas Plekanec is and will always be a better player than Mike Ribeiro in so many ways. Who would you rather have, Ribs or Plecs?

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  247. #247 Xhabsfan
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:43 am

    I now am convinced you guy’s either :1)Have no cable…,2) Have no T V…3) DON’T SEE THE SPORTING HIGHLITES AVALIBLE ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCORCES LATELY??? I guess ignorance is bliss to you ,but not to me! We should of got rid of KOVALEV instead and after the Smythe tears yesterday,you tell me that Kovalev is in the same league. He don’t care ,and I believe neither do you, so your perfect for each other. Prima- dona’s everywhere lately!!lol.

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  248. #248 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:43 am

    And for all who felt Gainey did nothing at the deadline, how about this? He traded Craig Rivet, a great team guy who I loved as a Hab but had admittedly and glaringly lost a step in all aspects of his game to San Jose for physical defensive minded YOUNG d-man in Josh Gorges and a 1st ROUND PICK! How’s that for return eh?
    Another great move was NOT moving Sheldon Souray and to a lesser extent Andrei Markov. We all agree Souray’s growing into a fiery leader as well as being a scoring threat feared by most NHL goalies (Martin Brodeur is not afraid of anything but did you see Raycroft dive out of the way of his slap shot Monday?)
    but media speculation aside, there’s every indication, he will re-sign in the summer, he likes it here and obviously Bob Gainey’s talked to him about the future or he indeed would have been moved in a heartbeat for some return.

    But more importantly, by not trading away any future for a rental, Gainey’s put his confidence in the guys that he thinks THIS BUNCH can make the Playoffs. And that’s good enough for me.

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  249. #249 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:45 am

    Xhabsfan, learn to spell so your posts are at least articulate, it’s hard to even decipher what the hell you are trying to complain about… again.

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  250. #250 coutNY_HabsFan
    March 1, 2007 am28 10:48 am

    Problem is we have a third even less talented small forward in Samsonov. I think he was Ribeiro’s twin, if I did not know any better??!?!?

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  251. #251 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 11:08 am

    I’d rather have Sergei Samsonov than Mike Ribeiro. You know which ex-Hab I want back? Arron Asham! He’s a great gritty hard work player, he’s like Aaron Downey and Garth Murray mixed into one but with some occasional scoring touch added, he’s a poor man’s Chris Simon.

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  252. #252 R habs 4 real
    March 1, 2007 am28 11:52 am

    Here are some reasonable doubts why Bob Gainey is NOT a good GM: Lost Ron Hainsey, 13th overall pick, claimed off of waivers by Columbus. He is still young and leads Columbus defensemen is scoring with 28 points. We have nothing to show for him.

    2) Traded Mike Ribeiro for Janne Niinimaa. Ribeiro has 41 points and is +7. Niinimaa has played 31 games, is a -8 and spends most nights watching from the press box. He is an unrestriced free agent that we will gladly lose but will have nothing to show for the trade. I don’t begrudge trading Ribeiro but we have to do better than Niinimaa.

    3) JP Dumont wanted to play in Montreal, was willing to accept a hometown discount, has 51 points and is a +9. Yet we were not interested. Instead we actively pursued the likes of Elias and Shanahan, neither of whom wanted to play in Montreal.

    4) Instead signed Sergei Samsonov to 3.5 million per season. He has 25 points in 60 games played. We can’t even give him away and his 3.5 million will count against next years cap.

    5) Held onto Sheldon Souray who will walk at seasons end. Once again we will have nothing to show for him. Souray’s stock was at an all time high as he is playing for a new contract and big payday. There is no arguing he is having a tremendous season but he will not duplicate this season again productionwise and has always been injury prone. I know we need Souray if we are going to make a run at a playoff spot. However, the reality is that we are an average team at best and don’t have the horses, combined with the injury to Huet, to do any real damage in the playoffs that is providing we actually make it in. (Andrei Markov is another unrestriced free agent at seasons end, wouldn’t it be tragic to lose him as well!? I know he claims that he wants to remain in Montreal but nothing is guaranteed).

    6) Traded Craig Rivet for Josh Gorges and a first round pick which seems like a good deal at the time as Rivet is an unrestricted free agent at seasons end. Unfortunately we lost some leadership and toughness in losing Rivet. Ironically we receive a “most sportsmanlike player” (Memorial Cup) in Gorges. Just what we need, another soft player.

    When will Montreal’s management realize that we need some size and toughness. We have too many European players and too many small, soft players. We must be the easiest team in the NHL to play against. We definitely don’t intimidate anyone.

    I hope Bob proves us wrong but thus far he has given us Habs fans little to cheer about.

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  253. #253 coutNY_HabsFan
    March 1, 2007 am28 11:53 am

    Next year I vote we MANDATE flu shots. You would think this day and age this day and age we would be able to avoid this sh*#t, but we are now on our 2nd bout. Is there some sort of a bio-terrorist crazed Leaf-fan trying to sabotaging our playoff chances? Frank perhaps?

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  254. #254 smiler2729
    March 1, 2007 am28 12:17 pm

    R Habs 4 real, Bob Gainey didn’t get rid of Ron Hainsey, he was claimed by Columbus on re-entry, meaning the Habs called him up late last November from Hamilton when we were down a couple of defencemen and the CBJs stole him under the new NHL’s stupid re-entry waiver rules (which is why Los Angeles can’t call up NHL calibre goalie Jason Labarbara from the AHL this season cuz they can’t risk losing him this way).

    I hated losing Hainsey too and since my wife’s a nutso Blue Jackets fan, I’ve watched him a lot on the Center Ice package and he’s good, or getting better but still very iffy in his own end and YOU GUYS WOULD BE ALL OVER HIM FOR IT IF HE WERE WITH THE HABS much like you’re on Mathieu Dandenault and were on Craig Rivet.

    As for J.P. Dumont, can you blame Gainey for preferring to chase down Patrik Elias, Jason Arnott and Brendan Shanahan? Dumont’s a great secondary type winger but is not a go-to-guy which is what Montreal was seeking last summer. I wish you people would get off Sergei Samsonov’s back, granted he’s holding onto his stick too tight and underachieving but to deride him constantly is not helping his brittle psyche (as everyone here has pointed out, this town pretty much eats their own if they falter and is a major reason why not many players wish to come here).

    Bob Gainey’s not a perfect GM but neither is Brian Burke but he’s a quality man and he chose to be here where many others would not have the guts to run this team in this market (again, see how we eat our own!)

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  255. #255 Xhabsfan
    March 1, 2007 am28 1:04 pm

    And what about Kovalev sniler0000,lost for words dud.lol.

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  256. #256 Pico
    March 2, 2007 am28 5:16 pm

    Hey Joshtm

    I bet you were complaining about Houle and Savard before that.
    Face it, nobody wants to come here.
    Ever think that Gainey took a chance with Niiniima and Samsonov. Now that he doesn’t take a chance you criticize him also.
    Taxes are the problem. Guess you make below 30k family income :)
    Nuff said again

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  257. #257 Scott
    March 6, 2007 am28 6:39 pm

    Anybody want to make this a gambling site?! I’ve got a thousand that says the Habs don’t see the playoffs. And I’ve been optimistic honestly! It’s over unless Halak does something otherworldly. This group does not have it. the Bruin (joke) game/effort was the nail for me. Bring up PRICE!!!!

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  258. #258 Scott
    March 6, 2007 am28 6:44 pm

    How did the once mighty Habs freefall so terribly? It, for me is the hardest year that I remember and I’ve been playing hockey since three and a Montreal fan I’m sure just as long LOL now 37 and so at a loss for words. Please read this blog Bob (ya right) and demote the deadweight and bring up some players with some pride and let us have look at C Price as well

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  259. #259 Scott
    March 6, 2007 am28 6:48 pm

    Last thing— I will gladly eat crow on this site if my words come back to haunt me and they salvage this year but honestly; HOW? ANYBODY? What a F@%in disgrace.

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  260. #260 shmillemse
    May 18, 2007 am28 2:04 pm

    never get Sundin He’s old and washed up Leighton nor Abby would never be sent down to replace Halak hes better than both of them and besides Price is there who is Better then all of them As far as Centres go they should get on Briere quick

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  261. #261 jo
    March 2, 2008 am28 2:02 pm

    sergei kostityn vien comenser

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