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Sheldon Souray: The Last Stand

  • Written by Habs BlogHabs Blog 67 Comments67 Comments Comments
    Last Updated: June 26, 2007

    Recent buzz indicates Bob Gainey is making one last final push to re-sign Sheldon Souray.

    Souray Bloody Souray

    Wishful thinking?

    Souray has long been considered by the media and fans to be fleeing Montreal.

    This late in the game is there any chance Sheldon Souray will stay? Or is this just last minute pandering for the media and fans?

    Time for speculation is over, as there is less than one week before Sheldon Souray potentially hits the free agent market and signs elsewhere — with nothing in return.

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  1. #1 Xhabsfan
    June 26, 2007 pm30 11:05 pm

    Considering the lack of Big name signings ,if Big Bob don’t resign Captain Souray,then I for one will be laughing my guts out when he unloads that Howitzer on our Habs,I fear a last place finnish for sure without him,maybe that’s the plan?And anybody who don’t think he’s a main cog in our wheels is more a cancer than Kovalev and that shot my dear Hab fans is like a bullit between the eyes.lol

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  2. #2 Michael Morgan
    June 27, 2007 pm30 12:08 am

    Dear XHabsfan

    I have been reading your Montreal Canadiens posts for about a year now and I have come to some conclusions. You are not an analytical hockey fan but more an emotional gadfly who needs extra attention to fuel your neurosis. Taking your inadequacies out on Bob Gainey and the Canadiens coaching staff from your extremely limited point of view is exhausting and enervating. You need to make a decision right now; are you or are not a fan of all that the Montreal Canadiens have brought to hockey or are are you just some Maple Leaf-Canuck jerk. Fans are fans not neurotic ********, so make up your frickin; mind and spare us the bullshit.

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  3. #3 Xhabsfan
    June 27, 2007 pm30 12:28 am

    Dear Michael, loyal fans in my book want success for the team they root for,which team have you been watching?Or are you just passionate about our team endlessly sucking dirt bottom of the barrel. You could of had a point if our Habs were any good since 93,but…………….so no offence taken.I would like to know where you got those rose coloured glasses ,they would come in handy when the bills come in. And Micheal I would LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU THINK improvements could be made to our team ,maybe you got the keys eh.

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  4. #4 MadManPaddy
    June 27, 2007 pm30 1:03 am

    Now boys…settle down. It’s all fun and games till someone loses a tooth or an eye!!!

    Every one is entitled to their opinion except this newbie Michael Morgan!!!

    Only kidding Mikey!!

    Xhabsfan…..see my last post on prior blog about draft. I say let Souray go…..he likely wants Markov money but his horrendous +/- says he should be paid otherwise. If he gets the same as Markov then I would say Markov should feel slighted…..afterall he gets the points and keeps his +/- a plus!!

    We should go after Hannan! He is a UFA this year and I think he would fit nicely on the Habs blueline. Thoughts?

    Anybody think that a pitch for Pitkanen would be good? He is obviously avail.

    How’s this for a blueline:(if we keep Souray and go after some other UFA’s)

    Hannan(2.5m)-Souray(4.5m)
    Pitkanen(2.5m)-Markov(5.5m)
    Stuart(2.5m)-Komisarek(1.7m)

    Alot of money in the “D” but well worth it, dontcha you think?

    Yes…make a pitch for Brad Stuart and get rid of He’s a Dandy and Boo!-ee-lon.

    Man…I should be the GM of the Habs!!!! NOT!!!!

    Oh but what a dream!

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  5. #5 MadManPaddy
    June 27, 2007 pm30 1:09 am

    Hey…everyone out there who thinks we did well at the draft for the last 2 years with these USHL players…..see my last entry on the draft blog…pretty scary when you look at the history!!

    WOW!

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  6. #6 orilliaborn
    June 27, 2007 pm30 1:19 am

    Souray’s probably the only guy on the team who strikes fear in other teams. I love the way he punches the bejeesus out of other guys. Montreal is such a small team that it’s really possible that Souray is its most important player. Every good team needs a guy like him. It’s a no brainer.

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  7. #7 Xhabsfan
    June 27, 2007 pm30 1:47 am

    Yo Paddy, I think if Souray was on the ducks last year ,he would of been a +30 with more goals and because the rest of the Ducks can take care of themselves with the physical stuff,Sheldon would be less injured. He has had to do it all Paddy and he has ,remember every good dog gets 2 bones . Hell,he’s our only allstar madman and our only 100 mph shot,in fact he’s are only shot ,are other D men ether only have wristers or couldn’t hit air itself! And if you don’t think Gaineys balls arn’t sweating now they will be if he looses Souray. Look, WE got lots of cap room when we clean out are dead beats bro and if we loose Souray were going to need Hannan for sure ,the only problem,we don’t got him yet! Bob Gainey has no choice in this matter ,its pretty well do or die.

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  8. #8 smiler2729
    June 27, 2007 pm30 1:55 am

    Ahh Sheldon Souray… On the plus side he’s the best pure leader the Habs have and his slap shot scares the sh*t out of goalies, on the minus side, the new NHL rules have made him a useless defender and he can be injury prone… hmmm. Love to see him stay but won’t cry if he goes… okay, maybe a little.

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  9. #9 Jaker1
    June 27, 2007 pm30 5:07 am

    I am new to this site and I love the constructive suggestions.How about this one: Sign Sourey and a top UFA center and when the well has run dry in the UFA,s trade Kovelev to Washington to play with Ovechkin for a first rounder which should be high. You keep Sourey,free up cash for a top center and get a top prospect in the process.This would probably make the dressing room a better place to be also. As much as I like Koivu, I thing Sourey garners a lot of respect.

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  10. #10 Ghost
    June 27, 2007 pm30 6:42 am

    Jaker1 – I see what you’re trying to do, in that your looking for a logical place where Kovalev would seen as a commodity (a playmaking winger for Ovechkin) and so would take his salary. But I don’t think Washington would give up a 1st rounder in this year’s deep draft for the very reason that Kovalev’s salary makes him hard to move and Washington knows that Montreal has little options with Kovalev. Maybe a 2nd rounder…

    I’m no fan of Kovalev, but I just don’t think the younguns can bear the full brunt of the opposing team’s defence. Kovalev still creates space, and the team needs veteran players like that right now, IMO. I’m still hoping for the kids enthusiasm will rub off on him.

    Say goodbye Souray. Montreal can’t make the same mistake Toronto made with McCabe and be saddled with a good guy, but a one-dimensional streaky defenseman who doesn’t know how to spell defense, much less play it.

    I’d have been happy if they could have brought Emelin over, and sign Hannan.

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  11. #11 joshtm
    June 27, 2007 pm30 9:04 am

    Well said Xhabsfan! And Micheal Morgan, Gainey might be good at signing rookies, he is hell with real hockey players though. A good GM and coaching staff are supposed to recognize not only good prospects, but also veteran hockey players who can work with talent and provide leadership.

    Unfortunately I haven’t seen Gainey sign any good players or real hockey players, not rookies but veterans.

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  12. #12 Volcom25
    June 27, 2007 pm30 11:06 am

    Seems the UFA bonaza will be the make or break point for the canadiens, if we don’t pick up some size or some skating we are going to be hooped next year. Hannan is a shutdown D-man, some size and/or heart up front would be great, who all is still available? what’s the deal with Marleau and Kariya? Next year is still promising, on the bright side at least we didn’t sign tkachuk! Very exciting week coming up, so stay tuned in!

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  13. #13 smiler2729
    June 27, 2007 pm30 11:30 am

    Big surprize… Cullimore and Salmelainen placed on waivers. So Samsonov was traded for exactly what he is worth… NOTHING. Oh and his big fat useless paycheque is not on the Habs anymore. SWEET.

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  14. #14 fan4066
    June 27, 2007 pm30 11:34 am

    Really guys, think about this. Remember the final game of the season? Last couple of minutes in the Laffs game? Were is Souray? Oh ya, left the game with an upper body injury!! Were on a empty net PP, and where is Souray? in the dressing room. Toronto, on the other hand had that dude go down( name eludes me now) they said he would not be back, guess what? He came back!

    If this is what we get from him down the stretch again, someone refered to him by leadership? where was the leadership in the Toronto game….when it REALLY counted. I was disgusted when I witnessed that game. On the other hand, he has a gun for a slp shot, I will never take that away from him, offensivly he is a great D-man, defensivly, he sucks, yau all know that because you seen it all on the highlight reels

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  15. #15 nigelski
    June 27, 2007 pm30 11:48 am

    Last I checked, Ghost (post 10), defence is how it is spelled, as in, “defenceman.” Worry more about your own spelling…

    As for Souray, it seems likely that he is gone. He will be taking our Power Play with him when he goes, which was, from my view, the only thing that made the Habs even close to playoff contention. For his point shot alone, Souray is worth some coin. As much as he’ll likely get in the free agent market? Doubtful.

    The real key here is who we end up replacing him with, should he leave. The goals have to come from somewhere. Gainey should at least try to trade his rights for something, should it become obvious that he wants out–that is, if it isn’t already obvious. LA wants him bad, and that’s where his family has moved, so I say ship him out for a pick if we can.

    I’d rather he stayed, when all is said, but if he’s bent on leaving, we should try to fleece someone out of a pick or prospect. If Tkchoke is worth a 1st rounder for the extra negotiating time, Souray should garner something.

    In terms of UFAs, I don’t hold much hope out there. Gainey’s track record is nothing short of abysmal in this regard. I’m just hoping that Lang and Yashin aren’t on their way…

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  16. #16 Rubberman
    June 27, 2007 pm30 10:15 pm

    If Gainey was serious, he wouldn’t wait until now to make a pitch.

    I agree: trade his rights to another team before the deadline.

    I like the idea of trading Kovalev. I would try for Smith or Briere but I would let the rookies play this year. No matter who they sign, they’ll be lucky to get passed the 2nd round, that’s if they make the playoffs. So, give the rookies some experience, trade one of their goalies for a mobile defenseman and save the cash for Vinny LeCavalier next yr. Not sure if he’s a FA next year or after that).

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  17. #17 Rubberman
    June 27, 2007 pm30 10:15 pm

    If Gainey was serious, he wouldn’t wait until now to make a pitch.

    I agree: trade his rights to another team before the deadline.

    I like the idea of trading Kovalev. I would try for Smith or Briere but I would let the rookies play this year. No matter who they sign, they’ll be lucky to get passed the 2nd round, that’s if they make the playoffs. So, give the rookies some experience, trade one of their goalies for a mobile defenseman and save the cash for Vinny LeCavalier next yr. Not sure if he’s a FA next year or after that).

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  18. #18 Jones
    June 27, 2007 pm30 11:10 pm

    Nigelski- ghost is probably in america, because while canadians call it a defence and defenceman, americans call it a defense and defenseman.

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  19. #19 JNic
    June 28, 2007 pm30 8:08 am

    Souray will leave, and he will take part of the scoring goals with him. Mostly on the powerplay. If he leave, it’s mean we gonna give more powerplay ice time to Markov. Markov might not have the same kind of slapshot, but he is good too and I am pretty sure he will improve his stats that way.

    We just need to have another defensemen to replace souray, but one who will have a positive or at least a better +- ratio, I am confident we can find someone like that, either by UFA or rookies (too bad emelin signed in Russia).

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  20. #20 MadManPaddy
    June 28, 2007 pm30 9:53 am

    JNic…….HANNAN!!!

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  21. #21 john rocheleau
    June 28, 2007 pm30 10:13 am

    well my plan if i am montreal this season dont try to hard tavares draft 2008

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  22. #22 john rocheleau
    June 28, 2007 pm30 10:20 am

    AS FOR ME AS MONTREAL GM I WOULD TRADE HUET LET SOURAY GO TRY AN EXPERIMENT IN GOAL WITH THE YOUNG GUNS AND OUT FRONT WITH BONK AND OTHER FOWARDS GONE THAT LEAVES ROOM FOR HAMILTON BOYS TO MOVE IN AND DO WHAT THEY CAN FOR THIS YEAR MAYBE NEXT THEN WE PUT ARE OFFERT IN FOR A CUP RUN MAYBE 3OR 4 YEARS THEN WE ARE GREAT AGAIN

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  23. #23 john rocheleau
    June 28, 2007 pm30 10:35 am

    IF THEY ARE SEROUIS ABOUT WINNING NOW THEY WILL NEED A SMALL MIRACLE AND IN MY VIEW PRICE CANT AND WONT BE ABLE TO RUN TREW THE NHL LIKE HE HAS IN THE JUNIORS HE WILL BE GOOD BUT IT WILL TAKE ATLEAST TWO MORE TOP 4 D A FIRST LINE WE HAVE ALOT TO OFFER FROM THIER WE ARE A SECOND AND THIRD LINE TEAM

    IT WOULD TAKE MARLEAU AT CENTER ALONG WITH RYAN SMITH ON HIS WING ATLEAST TO START A 1 LINE AND ON D RAFALSKY PRESSING WOULD ADD SOME GOOD THINGSAND YOU WOULD SAY WHY RAFALSKY I’D SAY I WOULD RATHER PAY HIM 5 MILLION THAN NO D SOURAY QAND THEN WE COULD PICK NICK BOYTON OFF WAIVERS I THINK WE COULD’NT DO WORSE THEN YEARS PAST MAYBE WITH SOME BREAKS AND 5 ON 5 GOALS FROM SMITH WE WOULD GO FAR

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  24. #24 DoM19
    June 28, 2007 pm30 11:11 am

    Souray isnt coming back. Well i have an article but in french that can prove it. http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/231445.html

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  25. #25 coutNY_HabsFan
    June 28, 2007 pm30 12:23 pm

    #24 DoM19?

    All it says is that Anahiem wants him if Neidemayer is retiring. Bob could get something done by Sunday or not. no one knkows whats going on withthe negotiations or what they have in mind with the UFA market. Isn’t this article is from the same guy that said we were gone to move up in the draft to get Esposito?

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  26. #26 joshtm
    June 28, 2007 pm30 1:24 pm

    Fan0466 should instead be asking gee, for 81 games last year, where were Dandy and Bouilly? Or the rest of the habs defense?

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  27. #27 joshtm
    June 28, 2007 pm30 4:21 pm

    What disappoints me is Gainey is not making any big moves, he is keeping his stock of 13 players, on top of the new contracts he has just entered into.

    Watch, no one will claim Cullimore or Salamander and they will be suited up in the fall…..

    After the great drafts, the news of the 13 qualifying offers to the bunch that had a roller coaster season last year was a let down.

    Not that it’ll be great to see the bunch when they are doing well, and we’ll be pissed when they are playing like the not-so-great players they are.

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  28. #28 john rocheleau
    June 28, 2007 pm30 5:45 pm

    i agree a gm’s job is to improve a team sometime to improve you must dump dead wait and rebuild

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  29. #29 Joshtm
    June 28, 2007 pm30 7:04 pm

    So much for promising to Build the Habs team, this looks more like let’s buy Tim Horton’s TimBits and hope one of those small six year olds are gonna one day be a superstar!

    Heck before elementary school closed for the summer Bob Gainey and Trevor Timmins were out signing kindergarten-aged boys to fifteen year contracts! Oh wait, wasn’t that Crazy Bob at the Montreal Jewish General Prenatal wing recruiting future prospects too? Man, isn’t he a Hockey God? Next week Crazy Bob is gonna go to all the sperm banks and sign some more D-men! Holy ****!

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  30. #30 Habs#1
    June 28, 2007 pm30 7:15 pm

    Souray was in a contract year just like McCabe was when they had big seasons. Souray will never put up numbers like that again offensively. NEVER. Teams no him and will shadow him on the PP from now on. Not to mention the fact that last season was the only healthy season that he’s ever had in his career, he’ll be back on the IR in no time.

    And he’ll be out west so the “threat” of Souray unloading against the Habs will happen once every 3 seasons.

    TSN said in their story about the Habs offseason plans last night that they want a power forward to protect Pleks on the second line instead of having a big centre next season. If this is true and does happen then I think that Mike Peca may be a guy that Gainey goes after to fill the #3 role down the middle.

    Tom Preissing and Matt Schneider are logical players that the Habs could get for the blue line.

    The Habs as of now have 19 million in cap room available going into Sunday. Givine Ryder a 1 mil raise to three million and Pleks a 500,000 raise to 1 million per the Habs have 17.5 million to spend on new players. It’s looking good as of now going into the feeding frenzy on sunday.

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  31. #31 joshtm
    June 28, 2007 pm30 7:42 pm

    As if Peca is healthy…..

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  32. #32 joshtm
    June 28, 2007 pm30 8:07 pm

    actually Gainey is gonna give Dandy and Boully 8 million each!

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  33. #33 Pepto
    June 28, 2007 pm30 8:55 pm

    Honestly where is the rage? Here Crazy Bob is keeping deadwood, and in fact giving them raises like I said he would, and we are worried that he is not gonna get rid of one of the superstars on the team? Man, that is like, totally arse-first logic if you ask me!

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  34. #34 habsfan_for_life1212
    June 28, 2007 pm30 9:34 pm

    joshtm, i dont understand it when you say that hes giving 13 qualifying offers to players who just had a horrible season. drop the 1 in front of your 3. only 3 of the players he gave offers to are on the habs..sure they had an up and down season but guess what…the other ten won the calder cup idiot.

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  35. #35 MadManPaddy
    June 28, 2007 pm30 10:24 pm

    habsfan_for_life1212………good one!!!! joshtm…..can you for once put aside the dumb-*** comments and actually give us just a hint of your hidden brilliance??? Come on….you can do it!!!! Make some sense next time you post you $%#!@ goomba!!

    I just read on TFP that Souray is claiming he has not received any new offers from Gainey despite the fact that Gainey has said publicly that Souray is his #1 priority???? Weird……

    I know I probably sound like a scratched blue-ray technology disc(HA HA) but I think we should let Souray go and maybe go after Hannan as he has some decent size and is defensively responsible. Besides he can throw in some points also!! As for Peca…..give me a $#@!% break…..PECA??? WTF!!!!
    Might as well do nothing. He’s as useless as tits on a boar…gimme a $#@!% break!! Who’s bright suggestion was that???

    Montreal needs to go big this year….like a huge blockbuster trade involving Vinnie or Crosby(ya I know…WTF shut up) but something huge like the Oilers did last summer! IT’S GOTTA HAPPEN!!

    I get the distinct feeling though that we will end up with Yashin or Lang or some nobody like that. This has got to be the make or break year for Gainey…I have always been a huge fan of his but if he fails this summer then I say kick him in the nuts and toss him in garbage pile…well don’t really kick him in the nuts but…you know what I mean!!

    I’m scared like a wee little baby!!

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  36. #36 Pepto
    June 29, 2007 pm30 1:23 am

    My last post was forged by JOshtm. COmment 33. What a fool. I spend one night with his mama and he holds a grudge.

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  37. #37 Xhabsfan
    June 29, 2007 pm30 1:37 am

    Ya ,we are in big rebuilding do-do for sure .We know Hooku want out if that’s the case,might as well dump the Russian lump and the rest of the dead weight and start anew.With aour younger Habbies and Bulldogs with some new faces it wouldn’t get any worse “yikes”! At least loosing would be more acceptable “ouch!” Edmonton just released ex bulldog Jessie Winchester”spelling?” anywho he played well againt us ,;and beat the shiite out of Downey,he big ,tough and cheap,with Souray gone? WE NEED MORE TOUGH GUYS!!!!

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  38. #38 nigelski
    June 29, 2007 pm30 6:28 am

    Darren Mcarty (sp?) is unrestricted, he’s kinda tough.

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  39. #39 Habsfan
    June 29, 2007 pm30 10:26 am

    Come on stop your yap and keep Souray for cryin’ out loud. he’s our best leader besides Koivu but even then Souray a whole lot bigger and remember the game Colby Armstrong(Penguins) elbowed Koivu? And who was it who fought him for Koivu?! Sou-Ray!!! And who Cares about Hannan? If we lose Souray we need another defeceman/forward with a big body and a rocket of a shot!!!! That’s all I have to say and I’m only 13!
    All hail the new “Rocket” Richard!
    And Crosby? Come on what’s wrong with some of you guys, huh!?

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  40. #40 ziman
    June 29, 2007 pm30 1:13 pm

    If Gainey doesn’t sign a free agent or make a trade for one to improve the team this year, I will ******* scream. I don’t always agree with some of you people on this site but I want results NOW!! I want Montreal to be a cup contender in the next year or so. If they do not make any moves, I will be pissed off. Come on Gainey, we have 19 million in cap space and that can be used to get Briere, Gomez and maybe a cheaper player. We need someone like Scott Gomez. I like his style of play and he would fit in nicely with the Canadiens. We NEED someone this year and not a piece of **** like Samsonov. He was a ******* crybaby like that ***** Kovalev and those players should never wear the CH ever again.

    Ziman

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  41. #41 joshtm
    June 29, 2007 pm30 2:14 pm

    I had to laugh at the habs web site. As if Gainey would even consider spending that kind of hard cash, he might on his mistakes, I could see Gainey giving both Dandenault and Bouillon serious cash, but not spending on Smyth etc….

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  42. #42 joshtm
    June 29, 2007 pm30 4:06 pm

    Oh no, 6 million more dollars for Gainey to waste on used, broken down players like Cullimore and Salamander.

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  43. #43 habs4ever
    June 29, 2007 pm30 6:18 pm

    I would really like to see Gainey clear up our mess on defence 1st, with Souray out we are not looking good on the back end at all. I would like to see 7-8 mill infested on 2 solid D, number one priority, then we can get into the forward talk later, briere at 7mill is silly and gomez at 6-7 is even more ridiculous. I would like Handzus and a big tough winger, take a flyer on bert or something. I dunno. Ridding of kovalev would be great if were gonna pursue somebody. I think this years FA crop is weak. Drury at 6mill hahaha. I even heard 8mill, are ppl crazy? He’s a 2nd tier FA not an elite player by any means. I like handzus. Peca could b ok if healthy, which is unlikely.
    So were in a pickle here. Getting kovy off the books would be my 2nd priority.
    Ideas? any low risk high reward signings you would like to see. I think we will not be big players in the top FA market, I think we could make a few 2nd tier FA moves tho. Philly making these silly contracts is gonna make teams struggle to get under the cap if they want any top FA’s

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  44. #44 habs4ever
    June 29, 2007 pm30 6:21 pm

    *invested

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  45. #45 Stuart-SB77
    June 29, 2007 pm30 7:26 pm

    I don’t really care anymore, the rumour has it that if Souray leaves, we might get Brian Refalski in return. Souray has a great shot but Spezza,crosby and briere just danced all around him in the defensive zone, and hat’s why Markov was first to be signed, because he plays Offence and Defence. Souray is my favorite Defencemen, but I love my habs more than Souray, and Refalski is better. I feel defence is not the issue, I think it’s the players that are not playing up to their best ability. Kovalev, Niinima(will be gone),Aebicher(will be gone) etc. the habs got bitten last year and I don’t think Bob’s doing another mistake agian. Souray, if he leaves big deal, just look at our defence, I don’t see a weekness.

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  46. #46 Xhabsfan
    June 29, 2007 pm30 10:44 pm

    Ah, its the racist,habs4ever,
    I’m glad you had time for your last post considering how busy you are as a prision garde at the French consentration camp you worship at,fool. I’m half french canadian ****** and one big tough motherfucker at that! So lets set up a meeting pencil **** and you can voice your opinions to a french canadian ,mano o mano, **** for brains and I’ll beat some brains into your stupid red-neck,retarded poor excuse for a canadiens fan,you thick sculled goof!!!!! As we get closer to Canada day ,you best remember both english and french stood side by side, some lived some died,for you country and your freedoms,of which you like to abuse,eh,eat **** and shut-up,goof!!!!ANYTIME

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  47. #47 Xhabsfan
    June 29, 2007 pm30 11:01 pm

    To other Hab fans,my post# 45 ,was a reply to a little idiot “habs4ever”and in reference to his post#117″montreal canadiens 2007 entry draft”. We have the best country in the world,a world that needs us and looks at us for direction and I will never let uneducated fools like habs4ever get away with that garbage statement!!!

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  48. #48 MadManPaddy
    June 30, 2007 pm30 12:56 am

    Xhabsfan…..whoa buddy boy…that was some statement!!! I feel ya but really not worth your time. Attention to stupidity only fuels further
    ignorance…remember that…know what I mean?

    Now habs4ever…..I read the post that Xhabsfan is referring to….keep the bullshit racist **** outta here…there is NO room for it…Okay?

    As for ideas to your last post….I have said in past posts that Jason Allison would be a good fit for Montreal…he is a big centre as they need and can dish it out from time to time. Yes…I know….he’s slow as molasses…..whatever…he is still almost a PPG player and…..surprise…..Montreal does not have one of those and hasn’t for a longtime!! Think about it…..if he played a full season and put up 75-82 pts….and we only had to pay him $1-$1.5 mil…….why not??!! We wasted $3.5mil. for 1 year on Sammy!! I think Allison would fit your “low risk, high reward” description. Don’t you?

    As for your thoughts that we will not be big players for a top UFA…mark my words…..Briere ends up a Hab….I don’t like the idea as he is way too small but I think it’ll happen…Bob loves this kid and I think it’ll come down to a bidding war between Philly and Montreal and strangely enough, Briere will win and be 7 Million dollars richer???

    Any thoughts Xhabsfan, Pepto, Ziman, habs4ever, joshtm, nigelski, anyone else????

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  49. #49 Xhabsfan
    June 30, 2007 pm30 1:32 am

    Yo Paddy,hope your having a great friday nite. Sorry I let little Hitler get to me,I’m on the look out for bone head statments concerning race and religion, could be cause the other half of me is Jewish.lol. Yep ,I think your rite about Briere coming to the Canadiens which means we got to let go of our soft deadbeats and deadbeats alltogether. I don’t know if there is room for Saku and Briere, and I feel a big trade coming up to those concerns. My problem with it is I don’t think Gainey understands that if you got a really small team ,you need really big protection”Cris Simon”and such,cause If we make it to the play-offs”the real season were the rules change”were going to need to double up on the paramedics in the Bell center.And if we loose SOURAY,”TOP PIC”???????????????????????

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  50. #50 habs4ever
    June 30, 2007 pm30 8:27 am

    Racist, are you guys simple? I stated earlier we shouldn’t be looking to sign players solely because they’re french, which we have done in the past. xhabsfan came on with the big stink about how quebecois deserve a french superstar, bullshit. They deserve a superstar, if he happens to be french. I’m all for it. My post 117 was a little out of hand, but when your talking to retards like xhabsfan sometimes you get carried away.
    As to your Allison post. I think he could be a good pp specialist and at 1.5 mill prolly is ok. Only problem we already have playmaking ability on the pp, we need someoe who cn pick up the trash like bertuzzi not necessarily bert, but someone with some of his skill sets. Big net crashing power forward. I’m not opposed to Allison, but allison alone doesn’t help much IMO

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  51. #51 MadManPaddy
    June 30, 2007 pm30 8:37 am

    habs4ever…..a little out of hand???? If I didn’t know better I would call you Sean Avery!! Come on….a little out of hand???

    Oh, and by the way…..my wife says I’m complicated thank-you!!! LOL

    Tommorrows the day folks!!! I’m sure we will all be at our keyboards ready to make our opinion known…….what a great country we live in!!!

    GO BOB GO!!!

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  52. #52 MadManPaddy
    June 30, 2007 pm30 8:39 am

    Xhabsfan…..yes, my Friday night was alright! I stayed sober!! LOL

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  53. #53 Xhabsfan
    June 30, 2007 pm30 11:13 am

    Ah,it’s the retarded RACIST, habs”racist “4ever,WHO STATES “I’ll stick to my tough english canadians rather then you french visor wearing pansies” You are the worst form of racist idiot,one who is to fucked up to know he’s one.Your parents did a **** job boy bringing you up weardo and If I were you, brain freeze, I WOULD STAY IN FOR CANADA DAY ,YOU MIGHT NOT MAKE IT WITH YOUR FRONT TEETH IN A MULTICULTURAL CELABRATION,**********!!!!

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  54. #54 habs4ever
    June 30, 2007 pm30 3:23 pm

    xhabsfan the internet warrior. Bravo my son. Internet tough guy’s gotta love them. Is Don Cherry a racist? Moron, your the one who thinks the habs need a French star. I think we’ll do just fine without one. hahaha. Go suck wood you loser and grab an English dictionary well your at it.

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  55. #55 MadManPaddy
    June 30, 2007 pm30 5:42 pm

    Xhabsfan,habs4ever……are we the only ones left here???? Where did everyone else go?????

    Oh and boys….stop the bickering would you please….I’m starting to feel a tad like a referee here!! We all get it…..Xhabsfan is a tough guy and habs4ever is a racist and I am a pacifist….but we’re all still huge HABS fans till the end!!!(which by the way, might be this year the ways things have went so far)…….LOL!!!

    Here is my prediction men……..Briere up-front and Hannan in the back-end. Those are the 2 that BOB signs. Say Adios to Souray and his league worst plus/minus!!!

    And a footnote signing may be Ouelette from Pittsburgh!!

    Talk to ya boys tomato!!!

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  56. #56 Avatar37
    June 30, 2007 pm30 6:14 pm

    I’m gone for 2 weeks for back surgery and I see … nothing changes. I keep praying the Habs won’t sign Briere but it looks fairly certain that they will. He’ll get nearly double the money Samsonov did and won’t put up double the points. I wonder if fans we’ll get on his case as much as they did Samsonov. Personally, I wish they were alot more interested in Smyth. There’s a reason he’s got 10 teams wanting to sign him. He might actually be worth the $6 or $7 million a year he’ll wind up getting paid. Personally, I’d love to see them sign Smyth even if it means Kovalev gets traded to make the room. We all knew Souray wasn’t coming back so it’s going to be no great surprise when he goes out west. This team needs more toughness, the Senator’s figured that out, Anaheim figured that out, my only complaint about Gainey is that he seems to be a pacifist and *hasn’t* figured that out. Otherwise, he’s a brilliant GM. Glad they drafted that defenseman first, we’ll see if he turns out to be as good as Hainsey or Komisarek. Go Habs!

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  57. #57 Xhabfan
    June 30, 2007 pm30 7:48 pm

    Avatar37,good luck with your surgery and don’t worry about it man,things have gotten real good in the surgery dept,you’ll be good a s new.Happy Canada day to you all.We live in the greatest country in the world,don’t believe me,watch the news tonight!!!

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  58. #58 Borg9
    June 30, 2007 pm30 8:49 pm

    I can’t see paying Souray 5.5 mil a year – let’s face it, he put up the numbers in the last year of his contract and has had a long history of injuries. He’s going to get good money after one great season, good for him. We should’ve traded him at the deadline.

    I like the guy and love the toughness he brings, but remember we’ve got a gamer in Komisarek who needs to up his minutes too. The Habs can make the playoffs without Souray if they add a good center tomorrow. We are okay on D right now, what we need is offence.

    Although it was a HUGE mistake not dealing his *** at the deadline.

    Anybody hear rumours of Michael Nylander (NYR) as a UFA possibility? I read this on the Gazette site as a good fit for Montreal. If the idea is also to get Kovalev going to up his trade value, this might be a good move – as long as we don’t overspend for a 34 yr old center. He had 83 points last year, which is pretty good. Don’t know a lot about him though, he’s not flashy but a good passer according to stuff I’ve read.

    I want to see Kovalev gone, but the only way we can get rid of him is to get some value back. We can’t just buy guys out like the Islanders do, that is insanity. Thought this would be impossible until Chicago lost their minds and thought they could be the team to get Samsonov going. Good luck with that.

    Did anyone else forget the Blackhawks were still in the NHL, or was that just me?

    Rotowire is saying the Rangers are going to make a press for Briere or Drury or Gomez, and if they can’t land any of those three, they’ll try to re-sign Nylander.

    I don’t know about Nylander – but I do know that I’ll be shaking my head in disgust if Count Chokula (Yashin) is putting on a Habs jersey next week. Somebody please, please make that frightening image disappear from my head.

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  59. #59 Avatar37
    June 30, 2007 pm30 9:27 pm

    Thank you, Xhabfan, although I had to come to the US to get the surgery done… our canadian health care system didn’t want to even send me for an MRI, I had to pay to have it done myself… turned out I had a herniated L4/L5 and a bulging L5/S1 … So I had the surgery done in Chicago and am expecting a $30k bill for it… Thank you Liberals for killing our healthcare system.

    I also heard a rumour that Yashin was interested in playing in Montreal… that would be a disaster. Yashin and Kovalev on the same line… I have nightmares already. Smyth, Drury, Gomez would all be good targets for free agents, so why do I have a bad feeling we’ll wind up with Briere and Yashin… *sigh*

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  60. #60 Jack Tornton
    June 30, 2007 pm30 10:16 pm

    You guys are forgetting about PK SUBBAN.

    This guy wants to play here. He wants to crack thelineup. He stated it. He will be the next Habs’ captain.

    I want this kid to join the organization next year. He will be extremely physical and born leader. He will bring passion for hockey in the locker room. Trust me. You guys should’ve seen him at the second day of the draft picks. He is seriously passioned by the Canadiens’ organization .

    I want this kid in our lineup next year.

    HAPPY CANADA DAY

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  61. #61 Xhabsfan
    July 1, 2007 pm30 2:01 am

    If we get Briere”ANOTHER SMALL GUY “we are going to need some of these guys Bob. Zack Parise,James Wisniewski,Jim Vandermeer,josh Gratton,Brad WINCHESTER , Cris Simon AND OR gREG dE VRIES.

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  62. #62 Avatar37
    July 1, 2007 pm30 10:05 am

    I’ve always liked Simon, personally, I was upset last year when Brashear offered to join the Habs for the price of a contract and was turned down by Gainey… While at least Lapierre and Latendresse and Begin are physical players, I always thought we needed an enforcer… We need someone to stick up for our “smaller, skilled” players…

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  63. #63 MadManPaddy
    July 1, 2007 pm30 10:41 am

    Avatar37/Xhabsfan…….Brashear?…are you kidding me??? After what that guy did in the LNAH during the lockout?? Brashear is a f-u-c-k-i-n-g animal. He is not a hockey player. There is absolutely no room for that guy anywhere near the NHL!!

    Boys…the days of the enforcer are done…PERIOD!!! It is all about skill now!

    You can be big and tough but you had better damn well have some skill or you won’t make it in the NHL.

    Chris Simon???? Is there anybody older that you could suggest??? Come on boys!!
    Get real!!!

    With guys like Garth Murray, Steve begin and Bouillon(he’s small but he’s tough!) Montreal is fine….lets worry about getting some goal scorers and a solid “D” man.

    I read on all the sports sites that it is a foregone conclusion that Briere will be a HAB!! I like his skill but I too worry about his size. He is rather small but he did put up 95 pts. last year…that’s more that any HAB did!!

    Let’s just hope that BOB and CARBO don’t try to turn him into a defensive specialist like every other “offensive-minded” player thay have brought in.

    Again, I say Briere and Hannan are HABS by end of today and Souray will be feasting on DUCK!

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  64. #64 Xhabfan
    July 1, 2007 pm30 10:56 am

    Canada,140 years old today
    Inventor of the greatest team sport ever ,”BROOM BALL!”LOL…….HOCKEY .And on this great day for Canadians lets hope its also a great day for Canadiens eh!Come out of your shell Bob Gainey and show us some of your magic some fans profese you have. GETHERDONE .

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  65. #65 Avatar37
    July 1, 2007 pm30 1:36 pm

    Brashear is the top enforcer in the league, followed by Laraque. No, he’s not going to score 20 goals, but that’s not his job. His job is to make sure that people aren’t crosschecking and slashing and trying to fight Koivu or Ryder or Higgins or Kovalev or any of the other non-fighters on the team. The day of the fighter is done? Tell that to Neil or McGratton on the Senators. Seems to me that Anaheim had some tough characters on their team as well, including Pronger.

    Don’t think the Habs need an enforcer? We haven’t had a bonafide enforcer since Ewen (my personal favourite) left. The Sens figured out that they weren’t going anywhere without one, let’s hope the Habs figure that out sooner than later.

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  66. #66 Stuart-SB77
    July 3, 2007 pm30 1:49 pm

    I thick the habs will be okay, but if I see them miss the playoffs again I will become a bum. lol

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  67. #67 theswede
    July 11, 2007 pm30 6:57 pm

    the habs have to many freeloaders and are just looking for a paycheck.
    they will be golfing early again next year

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