Trimming the Fat
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The Canadiens made their expected cuts today with no major surprises.
Several Hab prospects have been put on waivers, most notably Yann Danis and JP Cote who will either be claimed by another team or return to the minors.
Other waived players include Jamie Rivers, Mathieu Biron, Andrew Archer, Jonathan Ferland, Corey Locke, Duncan Milroy and Cory Urquhart.
The current roster:
Goalies
Jaroslav Halak
Cristobal Huet
Carey PriceDefence
Francis Bouillon
Patrice Brisebois
Mathieu Dandenault
Josh Gorges
Roman Hamrlik
Mike Komisarek
Andrei Markov
Ryan O’Byrne
Mark StreitOffence
Steve Bégin
Kyle Chipchura
Mikhail Grabovski
Christopher Higgins
Saku Koivu
Andrei Kostitsyn
Tom Kostopoulos
Alex Kovalev
Maxim Lapierre
Guillaume Latendresse
Garth Murray
Tomas Plekanec
Michael Ryder
Bryan Smolinski
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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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September 24, 2007 pm30 5:58 pm
exactly what I expected. And for sleepers and breakouts. I have a fealing that Kovalev,Higgins,Latendresse, and Markov will get at least 50 pts!
September 24, 2007 pm30 9:37 pm
I think that someone might snag Danis
September 24, 2007 pm30 10:00 pm
It feels like Gainey/Carbo play too conservatively. Bottom line: the Habs didn’t get the job done last year. It’s time for new blood. If you have an extra goalie and you have no place for him, trade him as part of a package for someone who can help the team.
Logically speaking, Ryder won’t sign with the Habs next summer. I have no inside info but after getting shorted the last 2 times during contract talks, you gotta to expect him to test the free agent market.
Carbo isn’t the right man for the job. He’s not willing to keep Price. What’s with that?????
As fans, we know the Habs are in for a long ride. It’s time for new blood.
September 25, 2007 pm30 8:13 am
READ MY WORDS:
“PRICE IS NOT READY FOR THE NHL. HE NEEDS MORE TIME IN THE AHL.”
Can’t anyone see that fact. Price is no Ken Dryden OR Patrick Roy. “YET”
Price will get his shot maybe next year. If we put him in net now with the Habs crappy defence, he will be shell shocked that could ruin him. Let Price season a bit in Hamilton…………
September 25, 2007 pm30 9:40 am
They should assign Garth Murray to the minors, and let him clear waivers. He’s taking a spot on the roster. As for Dandeneault, I’m afraid there is no room for him on this roster, and that Streit should play as a defencemen. I would love to see O’Byrne in the lineup, however there are no spots for him, he will be called up if there is an injury. I have a feeling they kept Price for now, because they are very close to trading Halak. I believe Halak and a defencemen will be traded very shortly, that is why Price is still at Camp. Lets hope we don’t lose Danis to waivers, we will need him as our #1 in Hamilton if Halak gets traded. And Danis will be good to have around if one of our goalies gets injured. If we can’t trade Dandeneault, I would put him on waivers, we have too many defencemen, especially if Streit is going to play D. Some team would pick up Dandeneault.
September 25, 2007 pm30 10:22 am
A trade would be nice, and it seems like we have tremendous depth of averagness: with only a few exceptions, it seems the best players and the worst players are not really too far removed from each other.
September 25, 2007 pm30 12:32 pm
Rightly said, Nilan. This team doesn’t have a star studded depth chart. That’s the case with most
“.500 clubs”. (And I don’t mean FORTUNE 500.)
On the upside, if this team plays, learns, and grows as a team and STAND UP FOR EACH OTHER,
it could very well make the playoffs.
I too am confused at seeing the likes of Murray, Dandy Frankie B. and Breezer in the lineup ahead of
younger (and hungrier) talent, especially when that hunger may be the only separation. I’d love for the guys
I just mentioned to prove me wrong, but I can’t help but doubt their abilities.
Think, act and play as A TEAM and good things will happen.
September 26, 2007 pm30 11:03 am
Trade Dandenault and Yann Danis for another good hockey player!
The habs the way it is, aren’t making it. were all in for a long ride unless Higgins can get 120 pts.lol as if! the best we’ll get is Kovalev with 60 pts. Put Kovalev on the 1st line. He sucked on the second last year. Ryder or Higgins can take care of their selves. Higgins would still get around 40 pts on the 2nd line.
September 26, 2007 pm30 2:15 pm
Why is Garth Murray even being considered for a spot on the big club when Kyle Chipchura is around? Probably because Marcel Hossa was Gainey traded to New York for Murray and he doesn’t want to look like he made a bad deal, well, so what, suck it up Bob, ya got fleeced on that one, let’s make lemonade with Garth and keep Chipper. I’m so tired of sports politics. Still love ya Bob!
Lots of new faces this season on this blog as well, g’day to all, welcome.
September 27, 2007 pm30 2:30 am
What a game winning goal for Souray tonite.Loosing him was a big Gainey ****-up period.Are we lucky we get to talk about Garth Murray,or what?Let another roller coaster season begin as I shake my head.
September 27, 2007 pm30 3:45 pm
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm did you happen to see the highlites to edmontons last game extrahabsfan? Yeah thats what i thought.Sometimes its just best to say nothing at all bud. lol
September 27, 2007 pm30 7:25 pm
Really, and well said Pacman….Souray was up to his Pilon best and cost the oilers their last game….I was howling with delight!~
September 30, 2007 pm30 8:41 pm
Oh for the good old days,the days of lafluer,shutt and robinson.These guys will be very lucky to finish at .500.WE need offence,we haven’t had a top 10 scorer in years.