Fallen Rookies
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The Canadiens host the Florida Panthers tonight in Montreal and they’ll do so without another one of last seasons French Canadian rookies.
After Maxim Lapierre didn’t even make the cut, Guillaume Latendresse now finds himself in the press box as a healthy scratch very early into the season.
Guillaume Latendresse has been virtually invisible on the ice this season and Guy Carbonneau isn’t waiting to take action.
“He’s definitely not playing well,” head coach Guy Carbonneau told reporters on Monday.
What’s going on with Latendresse? Is it a coincidence its Lapierre and Latendresse out of the line up after being made celebrities and heros by the French media? Shooting those RDS commercials perhaps went to their head. Coasting has got one in the minors and one in the press box. Temporary set back or future Jose Theodore’s and Mike Ribeiro’s caught in the hype?
Grabovski is back in to take his place and hopefully he can bring an offensive spark and be somewhat responsible defensively.
After Florida the Habs will be tested by 3 straight Divisional opponents which should help put the Northeast Division into perspective.
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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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October 16, 2007 am31 11:24 am
They “Lapierre and Latendresse” are fine and going to have great careers in the N.H.L. Lapierre is currently leading scorer in A.H.L ,while Lats sits in the presse box ,should be on the first or second line for his scoring ability’s,no brain-er especially when the Habs can’t buy a goal!Lats is not the fastest Skater,so trying to make him a checker is stupid…..WE NEED GOALS!!!!!!
October 16, 2007 am31 12:40 pm
Begin not playing tonight,and only found out at this morning’s skate. Apparently, he’s livid! Carbo is now losing this team. You can’t tell a player the day of the game that he’s not playing. Carbo is HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE COACH!
He should NOT be coaching in the NHL! and he has not learned from last year’s mistakes!
October 16, 2007 am31 12:46 pm
So I wonder what our line up going to look like tonite eh?
October 16, 2007 am31 12:58 pm
Oh frac,here comes Garth Murray to save the day.I’m starting to get flash-backs……………….DAM!!!!!!!!!!
October 16, 2007 am31 1:21 pm
You people make me laugh. You don’t even have a 1/4 of the hockey sense Carbo has, if you did, you’d be coaching the team. It’s real easy to sit back & talk trash, actually COACHING at a professional level is completely different. Carbo isn’t “losing” anything. He’s juggling the line up & trying to see if that leads to something. Obviously, Latendresse wasn’t playing to his potential, so he’s sitting out a game, just like Grabovsky did the past 2 games. Stop making this about language, cause that has nothing to do with it. SKILL is the bottom line, not what language you speak.
October 16, 2007 am31 2:58 pm
?????????????????????????????
October 16, 2007 am31 3:46 pm
I have to agree with Carboneau on this one. There are too many players on this team who do not want to put a work ethic into the game. When Detroit won there cups it was Draper and Maltby who got their hands dirty. The habs need to ship some of these premadonas out and bring in some grit. Even watch some of the habs past championships on Classic Canada even Lafleur paid the price.People we seem to be in an era in Montreal of give me my pay check and I will show up. I agree Carboneau’s coaching is of one of a poor communicator but Gainey is not about to admit that. Has anyone noticed how Ted Nolan’s players go to the wall for him. That tells you how the good old boys club works (black list good coaches because they are not your buddy and promote bad coaches because they are).
October 16, 2007 am31 6:41 pm
Why do some people think lattendresse should be on the first line?What has he done to be promoted?NOTHING.This guy cant even skate for crying out loud and you want to put him on the first line hahahahahahahaha.Must be the french media calling for carbo’s head because their so called frech hero is a bust lol.This is what happens when you have a big ego.I just have to shake my head at some of the posts in here.I hope carbo puts lattendresse on the first bus to hamilton.Atleast we dont get to see lattendresse’s slow moving ankle burning skating tonight.Thank god
October 16, 2007 am31 7:54 pm
Cause most Habs fans know we need GOALS and we need them now Patcum,not just from Kovalev,1st & 2nd lines have to produce way more goals and Ryder’s in a funk rite now,Lats can score dude!
October 16, 2007 am31 8:05 pm
Lattendresse+first line= Problems solved HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA Give me a break.If he keeps his play up lats will be trying to score in hamilton
October 16, 2007 am31 10:06 pm
Nice panthers goal pactum,u are a hooker with a P.H.D.LOL
October 16, 2007 am31 10:21 pm
and now you see why the habs will never never never never never make the playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY CAN’T SCORE 1 F#$%*KEN 5 on 5 GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16, 2007 am31 10:22 pm
Vokoun and Komisarek’s lazy slash beat the Habs tonight. They outplayed the Panthers in every way and lost. That’s demoralizing
October 16, 2007 am31 10:24 pm
Hey extrahabsfag go back to school and learn how to speak english lol
October 16, 2007 am31 10:30 pm
Most of the habs shots were rite at Vokoun,he was good the habs made him great.
October 16, 2007 am31 10:33 pm
the habs make every opposing goalie look great!
THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE! THEY CAN’T SCORE!
What a bunch of L O S E R S!
October 16, 2007 am31 10:40 pm
Not only that chevy,the Habs can’t score…………
October 16, 2007 am31 10:56 pm
Two games in a row blown because of a penalty. It is last year all over again. We had enough chances tonight to have 10 goals. This is getting old real fast.
I am sick to my Stomach already……..I REALLY DON’T KNOW…….
October 16, 2007 am31 10:58 pm
On the bright side, the rookies looked good. So did Higgins: he had lots of self-generated chances. And Huet obviously played very well too.
Komisarek is struggling this year, so hopefully he comes out the coma in the next few weeks. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Carboneau sit Komisarek in the next game, or perhaps the game after that if he has another bad game.
How are they going to get Latendresse back in the lineup? I predict one more night in the rafters for Latendresse, then he gets a chance to come back into the lineup and respond. If he doesn’t, he’ll be the grinder on Lapierre’s line for a month or two.
October 16, 2007 am31 11:04 pm
unless Gainey makes a trade to get a goal scorer, it’s over.
This team can’t shoot the puck straight, and their timing is way off! Even the leafs can score.
It’s so demoralizing. It’s like pulling teeth to score 1 goal!
I think Ryder should be traded. But whether you like hearing this statement or not: THIS YEAR WILL BE AN EXACT CARBON COPY OF LAST YEAR’S TEAM!!!
October 16, 2007 am31 11:11 pm
I AGREE WITH CHEVY.
The Habs Fans are getting worse than the Leaf Fans. They think we have a playoff team Give your heads a sake if you think this. If we support this kind of hockey we will never win a cup in 40 years. It has been 13 yrs and counting. We as Habs Fans are not use to that. Be we will be from now on if we put up with these crappy teams.
I FOR ONE AM PISSED OFF BIG TIME. I AM SO FUSTRATED I WANT TO BREAK SOMETHING.
October 16, 2007 am31 11:14 pm
We can’t whine about the Refs. Yes some calls are not right, but the most of the calls are from our stupid players.
If I were out there and the Ref did make a bad call, I would shoot the Damn put right at him and take the B#@%ch out. ……..
October 17, 2007 am31 8:40 am
I actually thought they played a very strong game. They generated a lot more chances. They just need to get traffic in front of the net. Every goal does not have to be on a highlight reel. I watched the Colorado highlights from last night and watched where Ryan Smyth is when he is on the ice. When he does not have the puck in the offensive zone he is making the Defensemen’s night miserable. This is something I think Carboneau should work on in practice.Doing this you may even be able to employ a guy like Murray or Begin on with Kovalev and Plecanic to cause problems. This could also give more balance and strength to your 3rd and 4th lines.
October 17, 2007 am31 2:51 pm
Get rid of Ryder, he’s killing us. Package him with someone and send him packing.
October 17, 2007 am31 2:52 pm
At least, take him (Ryder)of the first line.
October 17, 2007 am31 10:57 pm
20 Chevy and 21 DTD, I agree with both of you, anyone who thinks this is a playoff team, is smoking some bad grass, after looking at last years team what did this team do in the offseason to improve it ?a Calgary reject, so in reality…they did nothing, not that I blame Gainey for all of that, if players don’t or won’t come to the Habs, its overpay some “has been” or “never-has-been” to come. How about the Ducks paying that slug bertuzzi millions, thats what the Habs Are going to have to do to get players, and doing that they will accomplish nothing. bite the bullet, and give the young players a chance to develop , were not going to make the playoffs anyway, so lets take action now,give the young players a chance to develop. A+ to Higging last night, Komi—stupid penalty.
October 17, 2007 am31 11:03 pm
as much as I love the Habs, as long as all games are sold out….why improve ??
Habs fans should boycott all home games, Gillette is no dummy, when he see’s 10,000 empty seats and the lost revenue I am sure he would do something.
Habs have the best attendance in the league–FACT– look at the stats for yourself, they can afford to pay for some high priced help,NOT RETREADS,
however for this sseason, bring up the young players and give them a full year,
as much as I like Koivu, he has to go, Kovalev–scumbag-do anything to get rid of him. I think you will see Bob make a trade involving one of the goalies
for a top name player before the year is out.