Sabres Round 2
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Did the Canadiens get screwed on a bad penalty call late in the third last night?
Perhaps.
The Habs however did not compete for most of the game, again, and really had no business being involved in the game.
One bad call could, and did, basically end their chance at getting a point. They need to be much better to avoid that situation as they are now in danger of dropping 4 points to a Sabres team that is playing well and ready to climb back into the Division.
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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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November 24, 2007 pm30 5:24 pm
well here we go guys. We are starting to suck now! This is when Montreal misses the playoffs. we are starting to lose every second game. and in just 3 days we’ve went from 3rd in the NHL to 5th.
November 24, 2007 pm30 6:41 pm
the last 3 years we have started good then just dropped off and it looks the same this year to.
November 24, 2007 pm30 6:44 pm
i think the only thing that sucks around here is your website stuart..
November 24, 2007 pm30 7:26 pm
Turn that frown upside down.
November 24, 2007 pm30 8:04 pm
I take it RDS doesn’t grant paid sick leave? I love these guys, but I’m trying to eat while listening to the hawkers roll around in that guys’ throat. Sick day! Take a sick day!
November 24, 2007 pm30 8:07 pm
HAHAHAHA LOL
November 24, 2007 pm30 8:09 pm
Maybe one of them can sneeze on lattendresse and take him out of the line up lol
November 24, 2007 pm30 9:28 pm
Please, Guy, Effing please, send that kid to the minors. Missing two empty nets is understandable in a fast-paced men’s league game, but this is the NHL. And is Ryder even playing since the first period? This is frustrating–outgoaltendered by an AHL backup, and Andrew Peters is having his way with the puck. Brutal.
November 24, 2007 pm30 9:39 pm
How many open nets have the habs missed tonight and last night? PATHETIC!
5 games from now, habs will be below 500! They’re sinking faster than the titanic! Boy, do they look bad! JUST CAN’T SCORE!JUST CAN’T SCORE!
JUST CAN’T SCORE!JUST CAN’T SCORE!JUST CAN’T SCORE!JUST CAN’T SCORE!
GAINEY GET A PLAYER WHO KNOWS HOW TO SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carbo show your players what an open net looks like, and practise shooting straight! Minor leagers could the puck in an open net, but not these peewees!
November 24, 2007 pm30 10:32 pm
Well, well, well……
Huet should have played last night the Habs Fans cried. Well they got their wish. Huet played tonight. What happened? Huet lost again. 4 losses in 5 games. Yeh he is our #1 goalie for sure. With a record like that we will sure make the playoffs. Two soft goals again tonight. The last year Habs are back again.
The Fans talked about how we were beating teams with a backup goalie. Boy, what goes around comes around eh. Not only did we loose to a backup goalie but he was once our goalie way back when.
I would like to change my prediction…. Win one loose two. Win one loose two.
HA, HA, HA Huet our #1 goalie. #1 alright. A middle finger #1.
November 24, 2007 pm30 10:36 pm
He wasn’t spectacular tonight, but the Habs would have lost with Ken Dryden, Patrick Roy and Jacques Plant playing nets at the same time. Something’s going on with the team that we’re not hearing about–injuries, dissafection, but something. They aren’t even trying, except for Plekanac and Komisarek. But on most shifts, most of the guys are doing whatever they can to avoid battles along the boards. Ryder is the best at it–he just makes sure he’s nowhere near the puck when it might require that he take a body check in order to come out with the puck.
November 24, 2007 pm30 10:55 pm
GAINEY: you lazy lame duck GM: get off your ***, and do something!
You’re ruining this franchise! THE 2007-8 VERSION OF THE MONTREAL CANADIENS IS THE LEAST TALENTED TEAM OF ALL OF THEIR 100 YEARS IN THE NHL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24, 2007 pm30 11:11 pm
Anyone notice Kovalev is are heavyweight as of late?This team is dysfunctional!Look, for pete sake,at least call up new blood,come-on Bob!!!!!!!
November 25, 2007 pm30 12:58 am
Yeah but Bob Gainey isn’t changing and he isn’t going anywhere. I can’t figure out his vision for the team, we don’t have a solid player, much less a solid line. Defense is pretty good, but offense is pitiful. They are an embarrassing team to see playing. If we could have a bunch of 50-70 point players we might make a good team, like Buffalo last year, but it looks like Plekanic might end up scoring the most. A guy who would be 3rd line on a serious team. Get Bob Gainey out of there, get a GM who will bring back the Habs of the early 90s. We have some young talent, but knowing what we’ve seen the past 10 years, all the young guns will get burned out and play to get traded. Comry, Bure, Bonk, Zednik, now Ryder. Who next? Probably Price or Streit. Montreal is a tough town, but we love our players and treat them as celebrities, but start doing something right and we’ll be a little nicer. Get Carbo out, get Gainey out, trade Huet for a backup and a pick, bench Ryder, bench Koivu for a couple road games. A little tough love but do we ever need some change. Our golden boy Saku can’t even do a thing.
November 25, 2007 pm30 2:39 am
Saku and Higgins might be hurt. I think Ryder has possibly taken up smoking or something. And Plekanac is simply going to be one heck of a hockey player. But this so called youth of the team isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. The young Russians are good, but what in hell kind of a role is Latendresse going to play? This kid has power forward written all over him, but he’s trying to play a skill game that doesn’t at all fit his potential. We have very solid defense, and I’ll never know why Dandenault only played 10 mins tonight. Ah well, enough griping from me. Crappy game, poor effort, time to nip the problem in the bud.
November 25, 2007 pm30 8:36 am
Well here we go again with the HUET bashing did u freaking idiots happen to notice he has let only 3 goals in two games ans his save percentage is over .900 but hey this is the reason why players dont want to come here and why players dont want to stay because you idoits are allways using one of the players as a scape goat.
The fact is guys if you dont score you dont win and we are drying up in the goal department.Plus Jocelyn made some key saves last night to keep the confidence down.
So yes they have to get there **** together because we are 1 game over 500 and the only thing that saving us in the standingsis the fact that carolina,ottawa and the leafs all lost last night.
November 25, 2007 pm30 10:10 am
Trade Ryder and Halak for Tanguay.
We need Something!!! last year we strted loosing in january and missed the playoffs. this year were starting in november! We are gonna end up loosing to the leafs and then we’ll go to 8th place. We never beat the devils so there goes another loss. In december we playthe redwings. In 2 weeks we are gonna go
12-13-4.we’ll be 14th in the east. our leading scorer will be plekanec with 47 pts this season. The leafs will have 10 players with at least 50 pts.
November 25, 2007 pm30 11:02 am
ok….enough already….I can take a lot of things but PLEASE…Dont ever mention the leafs in the same breath as the habs again…….its like going to a wine tasting & discussing “scrath & sniff barbies”.
November 25, 2007 pm30 11:03 am
um….thats scratch.
November 25, 2007 pm30 11:25 am
Yeah there is no way i would compare the habs to the laffs.Toronto could very well be the worst team in the league and thats no joke.The habs will have their ups and downs but atleast have a prospect pool of some pretty decent talent.What do the leafs have in prospects? A guy who shows his wang on the internet and a goalie prospect dowwn in the marlies who is the second comming of Peter Ing. We have solid defence,great goaltending but scoring needs improvement.The habs atleast have a diection of where they want to go but the leafs are handcuffed by huge contracts and bad management and will be a awfull team intill those contracts are up.So to all of the laffs fans out there dont expect anything special out of your team for atleast the next 8 years.So now looking at the habs it doesnt seem that bad when we know we are only a few players away from being a contender and not a whole roster away like the leafs. GO HABS GO
November 25, 2007 pm30 12:18 pm
DTD - Huet wasn’t the problem last night! You can’t fault him on those goals, if you do you know nothing about watching hockey and breaking down a play.. yup Huet is at fault, damn he should of scored also.. learn the game before you peak off Fool
November 25, 2007 pm30 12:57 pm
Yo Bob Gainey,once again your recruitment of cast away veterans is starting to nip you in the butt ; go to the DOGS and lets start getting them used to THE N.h.L. game and If you want, make coaches out of our bad pick-ups”smoke etc”We have vets on the bulldogs too you know,”Millroy….Biron..etc”Don’t uses that lame excuse the DOGS arn’t doing well this year!Just make it happen!!!! And Carbo get your shittogether,your best player states the habs have 4 got lines that are getting used to each other “Kovalev” and then in the third,you start your crazy card shuffle with the lines ,ENOUGH ALL READY,FIX THE 1st,3rd and 4th lines and LEARN TO DO YOUR JOB BETTER !!
November 25, 2007 pm30 1:50 pm
yes, but we say the same thing every damn year! and the team never gets better!
Why don’t we get better? ask Gainey, who sits on his hands and plays solitaire all season. He has never does anything to get us more offence!
How many years have been saying:” WE NEED MORE OFFENCE. WE DON’T HAVE A STAR SCORER, AND WE NEED MORE GOAL SCORERS!” It’s just a broken record year after year after year. I don’t know how much longer we can take this. And as loyal fans, we deserve better. And last night, for this team to come out without any effort or heart, is totally unacceptable to the fans. But as long as the Bell Centre is sold out every game, why should Gillett care? He’ll be satisfied, and the habs will continue to put out the same crappy team every year! It’s been happening for 14 years, so why change? Some things never change!
I knew after Gainey did NOTHING in the summer to acquire a scorer, it would be the same. I told you guys: Don’t let their record fool you. It won’t stay above 500 for long. December brings out the true habs for the remainder of the season. You know, THE LOSING HABS! And forget the PP. Opposing teams are now figuring that out. If we don’t score on our PP, we can’t win. OUR PP IS NOW 2 for our last 23. Not very good. I guess I’ll start betting on the opposition in Mise Au Jeu. Might as well try and make money off a horrible team.
I think Koivu’s days are numbered in this city. He said he doesn’t want to be part of a rebuilding team, and so bye bye to him. It’s just too bad that language has to play a part on this team, or in Carbo’s mind. we all know, that if Latendresse was ENGLISH, he would be in the minors right now!!!!!!!!!!!! Whatever happened to, only the best players play? It’s now only the french play!!
November 25, 2007 pm30 4:29 pm
DTD#10
So huet let in 2 soft ones you say, ok so if he had stopped them would the Habs have won????? after all the forwards did score zero goals !!Just how many games is any team going to win scoring zero goals ? Goalies are not the Habs problem, it’s the forwards who are echl or some other minor minor league quality playing at nhl level. Huet has the 6th best record, so let’s stop ragging on him and direct your frustration in the right direction–at the forwards who cannot score, 2 back to back vs BUF and how many goals did the Habs score ? Excuse me, I did not hear you, how many goals did the Habs score?
The goalies of the Habs are the one thing that keeps them in contention, and others, please lay off Gainey, he offered Briere more money than he signed for, but they don’t want to play under the miscroscope that is Montreal.
November 25, 2007 pm30 4:32 pm
This is to all wannbe habs fan/haters this team is looking better every year,yes at times theydont put in a hundred percent effort and yes it would be nice to get a fifty goal scorer but it is not going to happen so wake up and get lost.
What this team needs is for all you negative fans to go fly a kite.Us fans that are loyal know the habs days are coming and the fact is we will make the playoffs and are team will gel.You wait and see this team has some surprises left in the tank.
November 25, 2007 pm30 5:39 pm
Habsofthefuture,It has just been proven that the power of prayer does not change the outcome of anything,so, that being the case if you want things to change for the better if at all possible…then make is so…The facts speak for themselves and things have to done about it..no brain-er…change must be made,after all,if you can mix up the lines then surely you can change the players.Ya know,it wouldn’t be so bad if the games were exciting but it’s like pactum say’s “watching paint dry!!!”LOL So why don’t you take it easy on us fans cause this has been too much for too long!!! And trust me I’m not the only one,cheak the other blogs,EVERY-ONE’S FEAD UP!!!!
November 25, 2007 pm30 7:11 pm
Well have fun living on the past Xtrahabsfan.I dont care about other blogs whining about the habs, the fact is hockey is not llike a magic trick, it takes time for a team to get better especialy after the rebuild of the late ninetys/early 2000 if you look back at your stats the habs have got dramaticaly better.
November 25, 2007 pm30 8:24 pm
Big question, who’s worse Rejean Houle, or Bob Gainey?
Someone said Thibault made some key saves… he also was letting 20 foot rebounds go, got pulled way out of position, lost the net. The Habs had at least 2 open nets and just missed the shot.
November 25, 2007 pm30 10:56 pm
so here we are again, same position as last year at this time. ya i know it’s only two losses to buffalo. but it’s two loses that should have been prevented. the call on komisarek in buffalo was wrong. that may have changed the outcome of that game, who knows. all i know is that the habs have to get consistent, game in and game out. you never know what team will show up to the rink. the relentless habs that won’t take second place or the habs that are half asleep, unorganized and look like the should be in the AHL. which also brings up a good question. should we bring up some more bulldogs?? maybe send latendresse down and bring lapierre back up?? we have to deal with toronto next, the boys better be ready to bring it because after the performance against pheonix you know that toronto will bring it’s A game. i feel bad for the likes of carey price, such a huge asset to the organization, just getting beat down by poor defensive hockey. must be frustrating?? i hate to see my team lose, but if we lose a few more we may end up tied for 12th in the conference, it’s getting really tight now. hope carb’s can get his troop in order, shake things up for the better and we can get back to our winning ways. is this gonna be a repeat of last year?? merry xmas with a team that is already gone on holidays??? i surely hope not!!!
November 25, 2007 pm30 11:02 pm
Let’s face it, whoever plays against the Habs seemed to be that week’s #1 goalie. We make the other team’s goalie look like he’s standing on his head. The fact is we do not have finishers….this has been going on for far too long. 8 points given away….I would be having skating drills for the next five practices after a result like this….f*(*(k!!!
November 25, 2007 pm30 11:45 pm
get used to it! It’s just the beginning of the habs famous 2nd half of the season melt down. Only Gainey can save this team. You can’t expect carbo to make winners of misfits. remember Bonk? he’s scoring lots of goals for Nashville. Is Smolinski? How about those goal scorers Gainey promised to get in the offseason? Did he lie to us? Yes he did! Do you feel cheated? I do!
all I ever wanted was a team that could score. Well I guess I’ll have to settle for constant non playoff teams, because this group of players don’t know how to score. They just aren’t talented enough. Have you noticed all the open nets they missed in the last 2 games? pathetic!
November 26, 2007 pm30 12:08 am
second comming of Peter Ing….HAHAHA…funny stuff
November 26, 2007 pm30 8:47 am
Goalie Coach:
Huet was lying flat on his belly like a harp seal on one goal. And the othet one he should have had as well. Come on Buddy. Wake up and smell the coffee. FOOL………….
November 26, 2007 pm30 8:51 am
habs4ever:
Huet loss 4 of his last five starts. Not very impressive if you ask me.
If Huet were to stop those weak goals we would have went to a shootout where we might have scored and took the two points……
November 26, 2007 pm30 6:07 pm
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=223721&hubname=
November 26, 2007 pm30 11:05 pm
DTD # 34
I don’t disagree with you on that…but the problem is still that the Habs cannot score……Other teams can let in a bad one but still have the forwards
pickup a goal or two, the Habs do not have that luxury, the forwards quite simply are not good enough, and it shows game after game.
#31-Habs2bfan…Yes I noticed that that piece of **** Bonk has scored
this year, so why couldn’t he score in Habs Town??
Well we gottta try and stay positive..amd hopefully bury the laffs on Tues.
November 27, 2007 pm30 2:39 am
OK,now that Lats is on the first line for tomorrow’s game against the tragic,dismal and out of control spiraling Toronto Maple leafs ,it would be too funny if he singlhandly took them on”with a hat-trick” and put them to rest.once and for all….Latrendresse,do it for Pactum Serva,lol….
November 27, 2007 pm30 8:14 am
lol
November 27, 2007 pm30 11:35 am
anybody want to bet that Gainey doesnt pick up Mark Recchi, as he’s available right now for next to nothing?…….not the blockbuster we’re looking for, but certainly better than …say…Latendresse ( until he learns to play in the nhl).
I say within the next three days….I’ll be saying I told you so.
November 28, 2007 pm30 7:48 pm
Ovechkin is a free agent come July 1st. Perezhogin is his good buddy. Question to Gainey 1 + 1 = ?
November 28, 2007 pm30 8:00 pm
Ryder $3M, Smolinski $2M, Huet $2.8 M, + Cap space = Ovechkin.
next year Kovalev $4.75 + Koivu $4.5 = LeCavalier