Home Sweet Home?
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Martin Brodeur did what he always does against the Canadiens, stopping everything the Habs could throw his way en route to another shut out.
How do they rebound after another brutal trip to New Jersey?
Tom Kostopolous and Steve Begin will be taking a trip to the press box tonight. Carbonneau believes Mikhail Grabovski will bring in some offence. Mark Streit will start as a forward, another attempt to generate some scoring.
How long does Grabovski have left? He’s looked out of his league virtually every shift he’s played.
But, what other options does Guy have?
The Predators have never won in Montreal and the Habs need to keep that streak alive.
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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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December 1, 2007 pm31 3:47 pm
Carbo sits begin and kostopoulus and inserts grabovsky and gorges into the line up to generate more speed and yet the slowest guy on the planet is still on the first line? LATALENTLESS must spend alot of time under gaineys desk i swear.Yep and in montreal its guys like kovalev who always take the heat.A sad state of afairs.
December 1, 2007 pm31 3:55 pm
I agree..
I was at the game last night, and cannot believe Brisebois and Latalentlesse get this ice time…if they were named Breakwood and TheTenderness they’d be in the ECHL/retired 5 yrs ago and that’s whats most frustrating…
Ott is dropping another game, 6 games… and we cant gain anything ??? Also frustrating…
December 1, 2007 pm31 5:26 pm
Latendresse does have some future upside, but right now he doesn’t deserve to be on one of the top lines. I still see Brisebois as a valuable addition. Sorry, despite his errors this team needs his ability to move the puck out of the zone until they get someone to replace him.
Has anyone ever thought that maybe Begin would work well on the Koivu line just once in a while? Better than Latendresse and someone who works hard, goes into the corners and to the front of the net. Sort of a very poor mans Smyth.
December 1, 2007 pm31 6:52 pm
Maybe try Grabs on the second line and move Pleks or Kosts to the first. That line needs a goal scorer, why bring up people who are talentless with the puck?
December 1, 2007 pm31 8:56 pm
tonight the lines are very wierd. finally Higgins is playing with Kovalev. a combination that hasn’t been seen. At least I’ve never seen it. Kovalev has 2 Assists in the 1st period. I’m sooo hapy right now so If they break down in the 2nd period I’ll die!!!!!lol
December 1, 2007 pm31 10:23 pm
“Maybe try Grabs on the second line and move Pleks or Kosts to the first. That line needs a goal scorer, why bring up people who are talentless with the puck?”
Not Kostopolous, He doesn’t move the puck that well. Plekanec, absolutely, he is one of the best players on the Habs.
Pactum is right, Latendresse should be third line, sure he got 2 goals tonite, but maybe stick him, Ryder, and Kostopolous on the third line. Say what you will about Brisbois, he is one of the few that has been really consistent over the past 15 years or so, we can count on good defense from him.
In all honesty, Kovalev and Koivu would probably play well together, still Plekanec or Ryder (if he gets better) and I think you got a really good top line. Ask the Flames, you can do fine with a great first line, and only mediocre lower lines.
December 1, 2007 pm31 10:52 pm
…And that’s how you blow a game! Thanks Habs! THis is the team that I go for?!? They may have played like the worst team in the league in the last 9 minutes. It doesn’t matter if you play 50 decent minutes and get lucky for 50 minutes, if you can’t play defence for the last 10. Learn not to take dumb penalties, and not get lazy because you can run the clock down. Carbo is part of the problem.
December 1, 2007 pm31 11:05 pm
from last few minutes I had a chance to see, tonight I really felt Huet was a sieve, very little effort on the goals against in shoot out, to blow 3 goals in last 10 minutes of a game, that is disgusting.
I think the Habs need to really get hammered by a bottow dweller to get some attention, right now they are so so, they need to get humiliated so that
mgmnt can see they badly need some help, lately they have been useless
how much longer ??
December 1, 2007 pm31 11:09 pm
Missed the game tonight. But I completely agree with you guys about Latendresse and Kostopolous–the latter is clearly a more important part of the team this year than the former.
Glad I missed the game. Looks like another gutless effort.
December 2, 2007 pm31 12:43 am
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TONIGHT. I LEFT TO GO TO TOW WITH ABUT 5 MIN LEFT INTHE GAMEAND COME HOME TO FIND OUT THEY LOST IN A SHOOT OUT??????…LET ME GUESSCARBO WEN ITH BREEZBY AND BOULION FOR THE LAST 5 MIN. THIS HAS GOT TO STP ….MANNAGEMENT GO TO GET SOME HELP.. BRING UP O’BRINE AND OTHRS FROM THE DOGS FO “D” AND TRADE SOME OF OUR “TALENT” RYDER, BREEZBY, BOULION HAVE GOT TO GO.
I HAVE ABOUT HAD IT WITH THIS TEAM…………WE HAVE TE TALENT INTHE MINORS TO BRING UP OR TO TRADE WITH OTHERS FOR BETTER PLAYERS. GAINEY AS A OLD HABS PLAYER YOU MST BE EMMBARISED BY THE LACK OF HEARTTHAT THIS TEAM DIPLAYES AT TIMES. WE FNALY GOT THE KOVELEV WE WANT AND THE PLAYERS TO PLAY ON A LINE WITH HIM AND THE THE REST OF THE TEAM FALLS APART.. I DONT EVEN WANT TO GET STARTED ON LANTONDESS(SPELLING I WRONG BUT SO IS THE FACT THAT HE IS STILL UP WITH HABS SO I DONT CARE TO SPLL IT RIGHT)
December 2, 2007 pm31 12:58 am
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i think its spelled LATALENTLESS
December 2, 2007 pm31 4:42 am
Yo Dudes,Lat’s has scored three goals in the last two games,so when you pick on him atleast have some timing,lol. Bench Ryder,Huet,Smoke and send in the Bulldogs.The time is now,right now, for change!!!
December 2, 2007 pm31 10:03 am
3 goals in two games all of which a drunken monkey could have scored.He looks so out of place out there its not even funny but hey you are right he did score 3 in two games so all hail to thee almighty latalentless. (end of sarcasm)
December 2, 2007 pm31 10:04 am
thank you XTRAHABSFAN,I want to see a line with A.kostitsyn-K.Chipchura-S.Kostitsyn. It might be a third line but still.Sergei had 123 pts or something in 59 games in london ontario last year. I can’t see him getting lower than 40 in the nhl, he’ll be better than ryder. RYDER IS ON PACE FOR 9 GOALS!!!!!!
December 2, 2007 pm31 2:33 pm
OK you are right he does have 3 goals but come off it his game is not what it should be. He should be playing better on both sides of the puck. He is sitting at -4 .Smolinski -6 ,Streit (-9), Markov(-8) ,Bouillon (+-0) but also 0 points and only 17 shots on net. Ryder on pace for 9 goals, 32 points and a 4.05sh%. These guys (except Markov) should see a lot of games from the press box and guys from the “Dogs” should be given a chance to play.
December 2, 2007 pm31 2:40 pm
Since the “TEAM HAS GONE TO THE DOCGS”
lets “BRING THE DOGS TO THE TEAM”
Did that gutless piece of **** Bonk ever score a goal with the Habs??
now that piece of **** scores in a shoot out..and is scoring with some frequency for another team.
December 2, 2007 pm31 4:53 pm
Montreal was the team that players loved to play against and play with. Now Mtl is a real joke… We haven’t called anyone up from Hamilton yet this year if I’m right. They aren’t winning and aren’t wanted to change a thing. Uh, Mr. GM its time to do something.
How is a team like Buffalo who’s best player is Vanek (not an all-star) doing better than Montreal. Its a coaching problem…
December 2, 2007 pm31 6:14 pm
Habs4Ever
BONK had 13 goals 10 assists, MORE than SMOLINSKI will ever produce for this team..before you spew garbage out of your mouth get your facts straight
December 2, 2007 pm31 9:38 pm
****.
December 2, 2007 pm31 11:30 pm
What ever happened to Lapierre?
December 3, 2007 pm31 12:01 am
One more first line center to play in the spot of virtually anyone who could end up on waivers or in the AHL–Ryder, Latendresse (AHL), Smolinski…
It’s a mental issue with this team: stupid mistakes cost dearly in the NHL, and we can’t have Smolinski the checking forward who doesn’t backcheck, or Ryder the goal-scorer who doesn’t score, or Latendresse the power forward who’s scared to throw a hit. This is pathetic. These guys need to start doing their jobs or we should fire them. I’d rather lose all year and watch young hard working rookies bust their butts for a spot in the NHL than watch a bunch of third and fourth line forwards who have somehow developed a sense of entitlement to a spot on the roster.
December 3, 2007 pm31 10:14 am
do you guys agree with me and bringing S.Kostitsyn to the NHL? I think he should get a try.
December 3, 2007 pm31 3:13 pm
With goaltenders Cristobal Huet nursing a pulled groin and Carey Price sick with the flu, the Montreal Canadiens may have Jaroslav Halak between the pipes when they host the Detroit Red Wings Tuesday night. - TSN
first I’ve heard of this….things just went from bad to worse
December 3, 2007 pm31 11:46 pm
Groundworking # 21
Hey Right On !!! I agree, I’d rather see the team lose with young guys trying to make it, then lose with these guys who feel they have a “right” to be
in the nhl, get rid of the bums and lets lose with young guys trying to make it happen for the future