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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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December 3, 2007 pm31 4:03 pm
If he plays good for us for a while I know everyone one else think he’s going soon,but I don’t think that’s the case. I know that halak is taking like 600 thousand while huet is taking like 2.7 mill. Gainey might trade Huet away instead of Halak. If Halak plays great Price I feel no matter what will be our starter soon. but Halak wouldn’t be a bad back-up.Price will be roy and Halak will be someone like Emery. We have great goaltending. trading Huet would give us 2 more million!!! I like Huet though and I still understand that Halak is more likely to go,I’m just saying that theres still a chance a huge trade could be in the mix.
December 3, 2007 pm31 4:04 pm
mix-(making)
December 3, 2007 pm31 6:13 pm
My guess is that it’s the injuries. He hasn’t been that impressive this year in the AHL, so I doubt that now is the time that they’ll market him for a trade.
This is the point in the year when…oh never mind…we all know what happens at this point in the year.
December 3, 2007 pm31 6:32 pm
No matter who plays in goal against Detroit,the players in front of them better show up with an effort or you may kill one of these kids confidence.I get the feeling some of the players are starting their illnesses that they blamed for their poor second half last year. I hope they show more character this year and not roll over and cry illness for the second half. I agree with most people about calling up some Bulldogs and sit guys like Ryder and Brisboise. I think if you can move Ryder it would be best for both parties and I think Carboneau should go to Brisbois and say good career but it is time to call it quits. Would it not be better to take in O’Byrne in and teach him the game like Jacque Lemaire is doing with James Shepphard rather than watching guys like Parise blowing by Brisbois. Just food for thought.
December 3, 2007 pm31 6:45 pm
Say goodby to Huet and lets thank him for hs efforts…..now on to the preset Halak and Price and here’s to a great future for Les Canadiens!The King is Dead;Long Live the King!!!!!
December 3, 2007 pm31 9:28 pm
Does anyone think Gainey dropped the ball when he let Bonk go, and signed Smolinski instead? Remember, Bonk has scored 10 goals, and Smolinski has 2.
Gainey doesn’t want to look bad, so he’ll play Smolinski every game, no matter how bad he plays.
December 3, 2007 pm31 10:19 pm
First, I think Stuart is right. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Huet is traded and Halak becomes the back-up. It’s not the ideal situation but Huet is one of the few assets that Montreal has that can actually get something worthwhile in return. Right now I’d gladly see Ryder paired with Huet in a deal that brought back a legitimate scorer or a number one center. Huet’s a great goalie, but this team will never be a contender without more dependable scoring.
Second, stop crying about Brisebois. Parise blew by him because of a bad pass from Hamrlik. It happens. Brisebois does make a lot of mistakes because of his playing style (long passes). But the same thing that makes him look so bad when things aren’t going good make the team look great when things go well. This is his last year so you won’t have to endure much more. But I personally think he has been dumped on in Montreal for a long time undeservedly. He is a good puck movng defenceman.
Lastly, Bonk is having a great year but you’re kidding yourself if you think that would have happened in Montreal for him. Bonk was more valuable in Montreal for preventing goals than getting them. But I do agree that he should have stayed for how well he played defensively.
December 3, 2007 pm31 11:42 pm
Thank goodness Bonk is gone, that piece of **** was just getting his paycheck mailed to him, now that he is out he scores some goals, good riddance to that ****.
Smolinski is stronger on the defense than Souray was, but doesn’t have the goal scoring ability that Souray had.
I think we are going to see a trade fairly soon, I hope it is worthwhile and not for some some washed-up has beens.
December 4, 2007 pm31 12:25 am
Maybe its not so much bonk but the system carbo plays here.Makes you think doesnt it?
December 4, 2007 pm31 1:06 am
Maybe it’s the fact that when players leave the pressure cooker here, and go to other teams, they thrive. Montreal is a tough place to play, and now I understand why players don’t want to come here. Truthfully, if I were an NHL player, I would never come here, because of the tremendous pressure, the media, language issues, and constantly being put under a microscope.
But nevertheless, I guess till my dying days I’ll be a habs fan. But man, I’m really getting tired of the losing. Maybe the fans should try and court hockey players to get them to come here. What can we do?
December 4, 2007 pm31 1:10 am
There’s so many things you point at and I think someone said it right when they pointed too the fact when the NEW KOVAlEV has to try and wake up his team mates by throwing pounding body checks “he’ll get injured doing that soon” to try and wake up his team-mates.Too many quitters on that team and too few goal scorers.At the end of two periods there’s nothing left of this undersized team at the close to half way point of the season,the tank is empty.period!!!WE NEED NEW BLOOD WITH SIZE AND TENASITY!!!!!DAM-IT!!!
December 4, 2007 pm31 8:07 am
Talk about deviating from the subject! I personally think Halak is being exposed right now for the possibility of a trade. I’m guessing Gainey’s looking for a 1 for 1 deal to trade a young goalie for a young forward. Youth on this team looks good, and I’m guessing Gainey wants to build on that.
I’m guessing that Gainey’s going to hold onto Huet until the trade deadline when a team just on the outside of the play-off picture decides they need a solid goaltender to help their push. I still think he and Ryder will be trade deadline deals this year.
December 4, 2007 pm31 9:07 am
Guys A trade may be an answer here but still it needs to have some sort of impact to shake up the team to wake them up …I’m a Ryder fan being for the east coast. But when somebody does not seem to fit anymore and could possibly get something in return when you add a goalie to the fold there may be an impact player we need also a prospect from the minors. Is there a team out there to make this deal to give up such a player and who would fit into the mix. Any suggestions?
December 4, 2007 pm31 12:26 pm
Sure, but who’s available right now? Halak-Ryder for…who?
December 4, 2007 pm31 12:45 pm
Considering both Ryder and Huet are unrestricted free agents at the end of the year it limits the return. Most likely they would go for another UFA that Montreal beleives they would be able to resign before they become unrestricted in the summer. Some of the better names out there include Marian Hossa, Huselius, Langkow, Hainsey, Ribeiro, Nagy, Dumont, Legwand and Naslund. Plaus it all depends where the other teams sit in the standings when Montreal is ready to trade. My picks would be Langkow, Legwand or Ribeiro. Yes, ribeiro. That extra offensive creativity would be very welcome right now. If Hossa has a few years left he may be a possibility.
December 4, 2007 pm31 1:05 pm
Never again for Ribeiro… too small, not what we need at all… he couldn’t get it done, and had to leave Montreal to get off the coke..
December 4, 2007 pm31 3:03 pm
Problem child Reibero back and maybe Hainsey who we lost on waivers and oh yeah hang on to that Bobby Orr(like) Brisbois. This can make for a competative Junior team.
December 4, 2007 pm31 3:55 pm
Ok, Ribeiro’s not ideal. But check your stats, I’d take Hainsey back in a second!
December 5, 2007 pm31 7:10 pm
Montreal should trade price and have Huet and Halak as their goalies
December 14, 2007 pm31 3:37 pm
my guess is because huet is not playing very well right now and price needs a backup