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- nilan : D'Agostini looked like an NHLer saturday night. Thats more than I can say for the last 2 seasons of latendresse. For what its worth, I think its too soon to talk trades- this is a WAY talented team, but only have a handful of guys playing with heart. Oh, and I like Komisarek on the ice better than behind the bench!
- Habs Blog : flu kicked my ass
- Mats Naslund : *the pros. These players just need to step it up. They did it last year.
- Mats Naslund : I would agree that having Markov as the point shot on the PP has been a failure. He is much more effective as a set up man. The Habs could absolutely use the Souray and Streit type shot on the point (but they couldn't afford to keep those guys). It would be nice if someone from within could fill that spot, be it Tanguay, Lang or Andrei Kostitsyn or whoever. Sergei played that spot on the PP with Kane and Gagner in Junior and lit it up. I'm not sure if he has the velocity to make it happen in t
- habs#1fan : All I was saying is that I myself believe we need those players (the centerman and the D-man) to help us now. I'm no expert by no means, am I wrong? Quite possibly. But that D-man would help our struggling PP. This team is deep in prospects which would make a deal easier to do. But yeah given the team's record so far maybe status quo would be best. GO HABS GO
- Mats Naslund : I think this would be a terrible time to make a trade. We need to see these players handle this adversity. To get value you need to trade value, and right now its a buyers market in Montreal. If there are team needs closer to the playoffs then Gainey will have to make a move, but don't sell the farm in desperation.
- habs#1fan : I know everyone is sick of hearing this including myself, however I do think the time to make a deal would be now. I don't know who is on the block but we still need another center and a PP D-man with a big shot. We have got a lot of good prospects, Max Pac, Chipchura, Maxwell, White, D'Agostini not to mention the junior and college players.
- Senet1 : Well I understand your thinking groundworking, I guess I just choose to look at this team as a team that will build to the playoffs. I do not necessarily see us finishing first in the division but Carbo has to prepare them for the PO. I just hope that I am right!
- groundworking : I hope you're right, Senet, and positive attitudes never hurt. I guess my problem is that I don't see the rough stretch in the win/loss column as the main concern, but also the lack of effort in many of the games that they won early--squeaking out wins against lesser opponents, often in shootouts, and without much help from the PP. The killer instinct and the "something to prove" edge that they had last year just hasn't seemed to be there, with two exceptions: a pre-season against Detroit
- PACTUM SERVA : Dave morissette looks like a monkey lol.
- Senet1 : With due respect groundworking, I think you are jumping the gun. If we are going to panic everytime our team has a bad stretch then we might as well pack it in. This team is better than last years team on paper, they are just struggling right now. Let's stay positive. After a bad performance last night this is a game that the players may have started to doubt themselves. A win is a win and we always have had trouble with Buffalo.
- groundworking : I hate to be negative, but I broke down, watched the game, and I'm still panicked, lol--Buffalo is a weak team, they were 3-6-3 in their last ten, and this was a hard fought game by the Habs, at home, after a bad outing the night before...oh, and S. Kostitsyn took two selfish penalties...and the PP didn't score on a 5-3 for two mins. Sorry to be so negative. I just think they don't have it this year
- Senet1 : If Carbo has lost the dressing room then these guys do not deserve to be in the NHL, he coaches the way he plays and he would not ask anyone to do something that he would not do. The players better get over it. Maybe based on tonight they are starting to get the point??
- Mats Naslund : MUCH better 2nd period tonight. Almost looks like the Canadiens we've been looking for for a month. Great goal by Markov from Koivu. We should always play 4 on 4.
- PACTUM SERVA : GO HABS GO
- groundworking : I expect a decent effort tonight, and then I expect them to choke the next game and possibly the game after that. Someone suggested that Carbo's lost the dressing room. That's a good point. Hard to say. Something's wrong, though. I plan NOT to watch the game, as I've just been getting frustrated this year with their play (unlike the last two years).
- habs#1fan : Carbo demotes the Kostitsyns to the fourth line but yet he leaves Latalentless (to quote Mr Pactum lol) on the second line? Now cmon Guy, I know he's got the same name as you and all but he hasn't done squat to be on the second line. Did that guy even play last night? Then again who really did? Glad to see D'Agostini play maybe bring some energy and fight
- flyinghab : I don't even want to talk about tonite's game ... it can be also be ugly in front of the home crowd. Carbo is becoming a broken record with his speeches now. Has he lost the dressing room ?
- flyinghab : Last year was an extremely lucky year. No injuries, kovy on good year ( 1 outta 4 ), therefore the habs were a bunch of overachievers. This year reality has struck. If we could buy some "heart" Gainey should invest.
- flyinghab : Wow... after watching part of this horrid game, I'm thinking with this team we'll be fortunate to even make the playoffs this year. So sad. Get Bob on the line please.
- PACTUM SERVA : No effort no heart no balls. This team is like watching paint dry. Gutless effort. Maybe their tampons were bothering them tonight.
- Mats Naslund : wow terrible game. i'm not mad right now, i think i'm just revolted. they did nothing for 60 minutes. uninspired, uncoordinated, and unproductive. i didn't even like how carbo coached the game. totally disgusting night.
- VanHab : later
- groundworking : lol agreed -- ill talk to you later
- VanHab : certainly makes for a better Friday night than watching the rest of this horrible game
- groundworking : They've had worse teams, but none that worked less than these guys
- groundworking : I've followed the Habs religiously since 1985, this is the slackest team that they've had since then
- VanHab : lol groundworking
- VanHab : a change has to come and soon
- groundworking : I've stopped watching the game--I posted here to rant and now I'm going to do something I enjoy more, like shovel dog crap off my back lawn
- VanHab : I can't believe we're being shutout by Theodore
- groundworking : Even October when we were winning, the team was just barely squeaking by against some really bad teams
- groundworking : pathetic
- groundworking : no digging for the puck
- VanHab : not the way we've been playing the whole month of November
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December 27, 2007 pm31 7:46 pm
The Lighting play out of St.Petersburg. Why is the team called Tampbay Lighting?
Where does The Panthers play out of?
December 27, 2007 pm31 7:56 pm
Sunrise, Florida. I think.
December 27, 2007 pm31 8:00 pm
Well well,I see the Habs are in Florida”suntanning,swimming,beachbumming,cheaking out the curves”relaxing like they do while playing HOCKEY!!!!And what’s with Carbo sitting Chipcura and playing Ryder”coach has taken way too many pucks in the head” ,what kind of system is it that when you SUCK you get to play and when your a first year,+1 forward who is playing well then you get the press box???That is so GOOFEY CARBO!!!!YOU NEED ONE OF THOSE COACHING FOR IDIOTS BOOKS BUDs!!!lol
December 27, 2007 pm31 8:23 pm
Your silly if you think Ryder is in any new plans…he’s got to be shipped and that means displaying whatever gifts he has…right now that’s not too good.
Besides, the team has to clobber Tampa Bay as they have either Vinny or Richards or St. Louis and the Canadiens could/should be exploring any potential trades with them. Could see Ryder Huet combo for a Lecavalier or St. Louis and a throw-in (maybe backup goalie)…in the near future. Hope so anyways. Go Habs Go!
December 27, 2007 pm31 8:40 pm
How about displaying Ryder at the edge of the Grand Canyon and then give him a push,lol
December 27, 2007 pm31 8:59 pm
I like that one, xtrahabsfan. Ha ha ha! good one. yes, Ryder only playing to be displayed for a trade to any team for a bag of pucks, because that’s all he’s worth.
December 27, 2007 pm31 11:18 pm
They were on fire tonight and Ryder still managed to end up a -2. Ryder, Huet and that sloppy O’Byrne to Tampa for Lecavier!
December 27, 2007 pm31 11:57 pm
You guys are smoking some bad dope if you think Tampa Bay is ever going
to trade Vinny for a couple minor leaguers, even if Huet is included that
is not going to make the trade happen. You can dream, but it is quite unrealistic.
December 28, 2007 pm31 12:01 am
O’Byrne has got to use his size and weight out there!!!!! He looks lost a lot out there. Ryder still can’t do anything..other then them I think they played pretty well. Not a perfect game (last few min.) but over all they played a pretty good road game..Look out for a collapse in the Florida game tomorrow(HOPE NOT)…GO HABS GO
December 28, 2007 pm31 12:01 am
Your a SICK *** to even joke about pushing someone over a cliff.
December 28, 2007 pm31 12:08 am
The Habs will have to give up a lot for that to happen. Habs do not have what TB would be looking to get for Vinny. The only one I could see the Habs get would be Richards. But still is not what the fans want. There probably will be a trade soon but not what we all want and if it is for any of the players that Habs fans are after don’t get mad at what BG. has to give up for him…
(WE PRETTY MUCH ALL HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR A TOP CENTER AND WE WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP A BLUE CHIP OR TWO TO GET IT).
December 28, 2007 pm31 12:38 am
once and for all: ANYONE WHO THINKS WE WOULD EVER GET LECAVALIER IS A TOTAL IDIOT! IT’S NEVER EVER EVER GOING TO HAPPEN! GIVE IT UP!
December 28, 2007 pm31 12:41 am
Like I said we do not have what they want…. The only way to get Vinny is when his contract is up and even then it wont happen…..
December 28, 2007 pm31 1:23 am
DTD ,how do you know he didn’t have a lanyard on”bundge”,lol.Anywho you have made your despleasure known,NOW GO GET LAYED and SMOKE A FATTY !!!LOL
December 28, 2007 pm31 1:54 am
I’d be willing to throw Koivu and Huet to Tampa along with Ryder for Lecavier - that sounds like a realistic offer to me. Tampa needs a number one man in nets and Koivu fills the hole that Vinny would leave better then most. Saku is having a tough time really getting going this year and, while Price still needs some work, he would more then do as our number one.
December 28, 2007 pm31 4:28 pm
why can’t they put ryder on the powerplay since we know he can’t play defence, or play and up and down system where he has a player play defense for him, maybe then he’ll get going
December 28, 2007 pm31 9:15 pm
Ryder is playing well tonight.. Maybe a boost of confidence will do him good..
Reminds me of the clamor to trade the “Slow” Portuguese guys.. Maybe the decision makers are the slow ones.. Yes Ryder has his defensive struggles.. Maybe some real coaching would help.. And a little confidence..
Sorry I like the guy..
December 28, 2007 pm31 9:23 pm
huet is #1.The guys play with more confidence with huet in nets.
December 28, 2007 pm31 9:25 pm
Yeah I agree, but with only a one year contract maybe the writings been on the wall from the beginning of the season. He’s been a streaky player, but the fair trade value on him (considering the contract situation) is a low first round pick. To achieve that we have to play him, get him some stats, he needs pp time.
December 28, 2007 pm31 10:22 pm
Kovalev sucks on the PP lately. He gave up the puck 3 times on the 4 min PP tonight..
December 28, 2007 pm31 11:24 pm
It has been fun in florida.go habs go.
December 28, 2007 pm31 11:52 pm
Two wins in Florida and 7 out of a possible 10 points on the christmas road trip……………………….and Ryder scored a goal! Ladies and Gentlemen hell has indeed frozen over. Although I loved that “I’m so smart” self-satisfied look on Carbo’s face after Koustopolous scored the fourth goal. Kinda funny
December 29, 2007 pm31 12:27 am
A great holiday present for all Habs fans,hell even Ryder scored”that won’t happen for another 15 games”Gooooo Habs!
December 29, 2007 pm31 1:01 am
They were out shot AGAIN but all in all a good road trip thus far. O’Byrne starting to use he size a bit more tonight GOOD TO SEE .Maybe the turning point of the season and for Ryder…. lets hope so. GO HABS GO
December 29, 2007 pm31 3:21 am
Ryder looked very good today, hopefully that sticks. 3-1-1 now on this road trip with a planned tromping in New York on Sunday
December 29, 2007 pm31 9:22 am
Trade Price, Ryder and someone else.(fill in blank)O for Lecavalier or Ovechkin..that’s right I said it>? Why ? Cause Huet is a freakin superstar and would be twice as good if he played ALL the games..his save percentage is nearly tops in the leage..that is the only true stat which tells you how good your goalie is…he is outshot everygame and he rarely if ever lets in more than 2 goals and his % is always 930 or over…he;s another allstar, who is 31..not 40 which means he is in his prime and could be a star for another 5-6 years!..we don;t need Price…we have a reliable back up in halak….Be realistic….in order yo get that superstar power forward we all know we need..we have to be prepared to give up someone huge!…I love price but hes young and unproven in the nhl….but Huet is a superstar//so play his *** all the time,, bring up halak and offer price to get the superstar we always dreamed…of…many of you will call me crazy but it’s time we played for the “now” (next 3 years) instead of the future..i don’;t care how good price will be….we arne’;t gonna win a cup building around him with the clowns we have up front
December 29, 2007 pm31 11:55 am
Price wouldn’t be enough for either of those 2.
December 29, 2007 pm31 11:56 am
oh, and where are all the haters?
December 29, 2007 pm31 1:31 pm
Iceburg14, in order to get Lecavalier or OVECHKIN ,we would have to give up :Price,Higgins,Saku and Komasarik and throw Ryder in just to sweetin the pot.
December 29, 2007 pm31 6:07 pm
O’Byrne out with a broken thumb. He was sent back to Montreal today.
December 29, 2007 pm31 9:57 pm
Toronto is being blown away by NYR tonight. yahoo!
December 30, 2007 pm31 1:32 am
And Ottawa took a crazy loss to Washington - good for us, we just need to stomp the Rangers tomorrow!
December 30, 2007 pm31 2:04 am
Tampa isn’t going anywhere without goaltending…they have to be interested. I don’t think it would cost that much. Mind you Patrick Marleau in San Jose is a sleeper…Ryder might be the right bait.
Also, Washington would be looking for some draft picks and goaltending help. The Rangers are coming around…wonder which Habs team will show up.
I also think that Koivu would be better off some where else and shipping him and Ryder might be the right mix to bring in a top forward and draft picks.
Besides got to give the young guns the time and space to play and shine. That’s why we got them. So give them the opportunity. Let’s go….keep it up and press forget the lay back and let them keep coming. Teams like Ottawa, Carolina, Anaheim, NJersey and Detroit will eat them alive. Go Habs Go!
December 30, 2007 pm31 2:56 am
don’t trade koivu hes been a solid player on this team for the past 12 years.
and great game last night scoring from every line !
December 30, 2007 pm31 12:28 pm
Ithink it’s time to trade Kovalev while he’s having a very good season along with Ryder and Huet.There’s good trade bait there FOR A GREAT BIG POWER FOWARD.
December 30, 2007 pm31 1:06 pm
Lets win against Newyork and go farther away from toronto and Boston in the standings. Last year we sucked in the middle of the season and this year we have two good wins after christmas and lets keep it going!