17 goals in 3 games?
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Uncharacteristic Habs hockey to say the least.
Unsurprisingly those 3 games were all Hab Wins.
Can they keep it up on the road in Pittsburgh?
Carey Price will get his 3rd start of the year tonight against the same team and in the same building he got his first career NHL win.
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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October 27, 2007 at 5:14 pm
If the Habs can keep hitting the back of the net, I can’t see why Price wouldn’t get his second win.
October 27, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Why is Latendresse on the PP? Carbo must be brain desd!
And Price isn’t ready for the NHL. He keeps letting in goals thru the 5 hole.
He’s definitely NOT READY!
October 27, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Nice win for the good guy’s!Price should allway’s do shootout duty,like a relife pitcher in baseball”he just stoned the MIGHTY PENS !” after all it’s Huet’s shortcomming.
I must say I feel very proud of way the team is playing and as a lifelong fan……HABS RULE……………………………….
October 27, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Chevy4CH,….Yo..We Won Dude…Relax and enjoy…Let th Good Times Roll,lol
October 27, 2007 at 10:58 pm
After we build up a lead, we always stop playing. We were lucky to win this game, because the 2nd and 3rd periods belonged to Pitt.
Why is Latendresse on the team instead of Lapierre? He belongs in the minors. He’s totally USELESS!
October 28, 2007 at 4:53 am
Why is Garth Murray on the team? I would rather Latendress on the team than Murray.
Latendress has the potential to be a powerforward. Garth Murray is a watered down version of Begin. get rid of Murray and bring up Lapierre
But yeah, don’t worry, be happy.
October 28, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Did Price look a little nervous last night? I think he should be sent to Hamilton as the starter; Halak backup. Take Danis up as Huet’s Backup, Trade him along the way, take Price back up. That way Price isn’t sitting too long riding the bench. He needs more playing time.
October 28, 2007 at 4:58 pm
“Why is Latendresse on the PP? Carbo must be brain desd!
And Price isn’t ready for the NHL. He keeps letting in goals thru the 5 hole.
He’s definitely NOT READY!
Right so he let in a bad gaol and after that? He stoned the Pens all the way into the Shootout and Stoned them again… the mark of a great goalie is they let in a bad one, but then they just slam the door for the rest of the night… only thing brain dead around here is guys like you .
October 28, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Price is doing quite well. He needs to learn the ridiculous pressure of playing in Montreal from guys like chevy…
With Huet playing the way he is and Price doing a stand-up job “learning the ropes”, the Habs are in very good shape in goal. The confidence just seems to ooze out from their own end.
Reminds me of last year until the bug hit…
The differences to watch this year: power play is multi-dimensional, Huet will not be worked as much, and Kovy’s come to play!!
October 28, 2007 at 11:46 pm
Jack, dont forget Markov : he is playing like a Norris contender a the moment.
October 29, 2007 at 10:49 am
HabsFan4life
You don’t have a clue about Price. Talk sense Dude. Huet is not our Savour.
To everyone: HOW MANY SOFT GOALS HAS HUET LET IN. HUET’S SOFT GOALS COST THE HABS A PLAYOFF BIRTH LAST YEAR WIN WE PLAYED TO IN THE LAST GAME….
October 29, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Chevy, this is last time I read any of your comments, you’re a horrible fan really, can’t even celebrate a win (or 4 in a row)…this team is by far exceeding ALL expectations..
You speak as if you should play on their behalf… all old, cranky, and sweaty and cursing your 13″ TV all night long… wake up bud, were WINNING!
All this negativity sounds like Toronto Laffs fans… get over yourself, thats 4 wins in a row for the good guys!!!
GO HABS GO, thrash the Thrashers!
October 29, 2007 at 2:40 pm
um….on a side note Spectors reports that Sergei Samsonov has been a healthy scratch for the past three games in Chicago because of his poor play…..lmao….for you Gainey nay sayers…..this one alone was worth having Bob here.
just my humble opinion….don’t get your panties in a bunch.
October 29, 2007 at 3:04 pm
DTD
All I am saying about Price is that he needs more playing time. Huet is playing really well right now so why should our goalie of the future be riding the pine. He should go to Hamilton and start every game until he is called back up. I wasn’t saying he was no good. So you should read into a post before reacting Dude. Price needs to play or he will seize up.
October 29, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Oh and the whole team cost a birth lastyear, not just Huet. He didn’t play for a month. wasn’t his decision to play. That was Carbo’s choice.
October 29, 2007 at 3:21 pm
is it Mr. Big time, or mr, BIG MOUTH!
October 29, 2007 at 5:45 pm
t-rum, I’m with you there…and thank God he didn’t re-sign Aebischer. Phoenix just put him on waivers recently.
October 30, 2007 at 1:58 pm
HabsFan4life:
Sorry Dude.
Bob has a plan. He wants to trade Huet for a goal scorer. He needs to see what Price can do………….
October 30, 2007 at 4:34 pm
yeah,trade your number one goalie right before the playoffs…that would be nice. Way to mess up chemistry.
Nah, keep him, resign him for a one year contract to let Price mature. then Trade him or let him go on his way. Or if Price flops, pull a sign him for 15 years like the Islanders would.
October 30, 2007 at 10:04 pm
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October 31, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Hold on everyone…don’t get too excited yet. I’m a huge Habs fan, have been for many years…but they always do this. BIG start, followed with a fizzle. I pray to God that it’s not the case this year, and they are the real thing, but lets wait and see huh? I gotta tell ya, one thing I’m very discouraged about is, once again, our Habs holding their own with the big gun teams and then losing to the bottom teams. The same old song and dance as last year and the year before…beat Pitts, great games with Ottawa, splitting season series with Buffalo…but then losing, like they did last Tues night to Atlanta…the team everyone else is beating up on. Come on guys, #1 powerplay vs. #29 penalty kill, get 6 powerplays, including two 5 on 3′s, and can’t beat these guys? Winning games against less superior teams is what put teams like Ottawa and Buffalo at the top of the standings at years end. But this is where our Habs have trouble, just like last year. Ya gotta take these “gimme” games and keep the 2 pts racking up to be at the top. Why do we have so much trouble with these teams? Giving them a break? Only playing as good as the opponent? Come on, fill the net against these poor penalty-kill, high GGA teams. The top teams do this regularly, and if we wanna be there once again, we gotta start banking these 2pts when we get the chance. Gets discouraging when we beat Pitts and Carolina rather handily…then to entend to a 5 game winning streak we got the Thrashers (who arent playing up to their standards this year so far), and then lose….gotta beat these teams while they’re down…its whats gonna separate the top 5 or 6 teams in the Conference come playoff time. Consistency is all we’re missing right now to have a great year and a good playoff run. GO HABS GO !!!!