Above Expectations
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The Canadiens have 60 points.
The Habs have the 5th highest point total in the league having played equal or less games than all the teams ahead of them. Only Ottawa has more points in the East.
The Canadiens have their highest point total at this point of the season in 15 years.
2008 – 15 = 1993
1993 = Stanley Cup.
That may be a a bit of far stretch, or it may turn out not to be. But what’s real is the Canadiens have played above expectations thus far and are in a great position with almost 2/3′s of the season done.
What’s also real is if the Canadiens don’t play well for the last 1/3 the season, that good start could be wiped clean and end in another bitter disappointment.
Will the Habs be strong to the end of the year or end up in their usual playoff cellar dog fight?
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
- stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
- stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm
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January 29, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Stanley!!!
January 29, 2008 at 5:42 pm
HOld me closer tiny dancer.
January 29, 2008 at 6:12 pm
lmao wtf? lol
January 29, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Now that is how you start a game….
January 29, 2008 at 9:20 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO its already 3-0 and #11 hasa goal GREAT and Ryder has a point !! GO HABS GO !!! GO HABS GO!!!
January 29, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Oh oh dont tell me AK27 is injured ???? He took a heavy shot on the hand !
January 29, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Time for me to spam …. I am starting to like that guy Josh … he is only 23 years old and he is turning out to be a decent defenceman …
January 29, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I agree Don, Josh looked very good tonight. I’m happy Koivu did well, but that line is probably still the weakest on the team.
This team is a contender with the addition of another scoring winger and perhaps a faceoff man.
What would everyone think of Fedorov coming in for a playoff run for faceoffs and defensive covereage?
January 29, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Federov gets 3mill a year.Too much.
January 30, 2008 at 12:03 am
When does Feds Contract end? Anyone know? If It’s this year I can see It happening but If anything else, don’t count on it. By the way, good game Habs!
January 30, 2008 at 1:01 am
We’re gliding ever closer to the playoffs with a more than respectable record and an apparent drive that hasn’t existing in years past – huge shutout tonight, looking forward to seeing what they do on Thursday in DC!
January 30, 2008 at 8:47 am
Feds makes 6,080,000mill for this year then is UFA…(AS NOTED BY HOCKEY NEWS SALARIES PAGE)
January 30, 2008 at 10:32 am
Kovalev played inspired hockey. Komisarek is quickly becoming the new Scott Stevens. Sergei plays mean and has great moves. All the Habs need is for Higgins and Latendresse to play up to their talent, however, you can see that its coming. Did anyone notice the stat showed on RDS last night that the Habs are second in the NHL for bodychecks. It all looks and feels good.
January 30, 2008 at 10:36 am
Ok, if anyone knows how this works…
I checked the Federov numbers as well, if we were able to get him for cheap (2nd round pick or for Halak say), would we only be responsible for approx. 1/4 of his annual salary as a cap hit since the season is 3/4 done at that point? so about $1.5M?
January 30, 2008 at 10:46 am
His contract ends this season so I don’t see the big problem. But if you want to get good face offs just save money and get Yannick Perrault. He might play on the third line, but his face offs are 1st in the NHL again. And either than Koivu, habs suck at taking face offs.
January 30, 2008 at 10:52 am
I’d prefer to see a scoring winger aquired for the first line but I think a player like Fedorov is more what Gainey may be after. Someone who doesn’t mess with the success and chemistry of the top scoring lines, who isn’t signed beyond this season and who helps in two areas of weakness, penalty killing and faceoffs. And with the strong Russian content of the habs it may be good for all.
January 30, 2008 at 11:19 am
Woohoo, keep on rollin Habs. Damn, we’re only behind Ottawa and Detroit now for 3rd overall. They’re a pleasure to watch again. Gotta catch them Sens though or the best we can get is 4th in the conference…and we got a home and home coming up next month…2 biggest games of the year so far.
And as an added bonus…the Leafs are bummin out, hahahahaha….How many Leaf fans said to me before the season started that the Habs lost Souray..thats too much for them to make the offseason….but with the Blake and Toskala pick-ups, the Leafs were guaranteed a playoff spot….hehe, looks good on the bums.
GO HABS GO !!
January 30, 2008 at 1:37 pm
We owe a lot of the success to the young guy’s and their relentless play,it’s rubbed off on the vets ,finally.And Kovalev is the other factor,he’s done a 360% turn around and is as well very inspiring and awesome to watch.The big question is how do we stack up against the western powerhouse teams,cause we know were making the playoffs!And what do we need to beat up on Ottawa in the BIG SHOW? I truly believe a couple of the right moves and we will be in the finals and getting our Stanley Cup back were it belongs THIS YEAR.We also need a very big enforcer ,”watch out for Brashear tonite!” cause if you are going to be no.2 in hits it’s going to cause a reply as the regular season comes to a close….Go habs GO…. Keep it focused Huet ,your on your game dude.
January 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Only playing Huet in a bit over half the games up to now, may have been Gainey’s master plan… He’s playing better now than he has all season, and playing back to back games is helping him way more than going back and forth with Price.
Funny how we all refer to things going well or horrible back to Gainey, like we would a god or something…lol
January 30, 2008 at 4:14 pm
We are almost there .. Sometimes I wonder if making a change is the right thing to do .. you know when its not broken you cant fix it? Right now its not broken.. do we risk breaking it ? Tough postion to be in your damned if you do and damned if you dont !!!
GO HABS GO !!!
January 30, 2008 at 5:02 pm
We are almost there .. Sometimes I wonder if making a change is the right thing to do .. you know when its not broken you cant fix it? Right now its not broken.. do we risk breaking it ? Tough postion to be in your damned if you do and damned if you dont !!!
GO HABS GO !!!
Fully agreed. What is the point of trading? We are doing so good already!
January 30, 2008 at 5:50 pm
If Montreal doesn’t trade before the deadline I beleive that would be admitting defeat in the playoffs. I hope I’m wrong and you two are right, but I still think there are some obvious problems on the team and a first round exit still would not be out of the question. I also think they are good enough that Gainey can’t just stand pat. To be so close to stanley cup contention and not make the effor to bolster the lineup would be unforgiveable.
January 30, 2008 at 5:58 pm
barriehabfan what are the obvious problems with the team ?
January 30, 2008 at 5:59 pm
How quickly we forget. Are we leaf fans now who think our team is the greatest after a few wins?
January 30, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Ok. How about one of the worst face-off win percentages in the league. Or maybe the fact that they are one of the worst penalty killing units. Or amybe that the first line, despit very recent signs of life, is very little threat to most teams. Or I could talk about how physically stronger teams can give Montreal fits.
No team is beyond improvement.
January 30, 2008 at 6:03 pm
And the same goes for my typing.
January 30, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Nicely put BarrieHabFan,and to further your point just look at last years Stanley Cup winner”Ducks”,they have added Snider , Bertuzzi and just resigned Salanie “spelling?”
January 30, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Selanne
January 30, 2008 at 6:39 pm
that is how you spell it
January 30, 2008 at 7:34 pm
A stronger faceoff man would be nice, as would a new scorer to either reignite the first line or replace one of the non-producers (Ryder, maybe even Koivu).
Either way, I think we have the potential (I stress that word) to make a strong Cup run. That is assuming that everyone makes a point to play at the top of their level all the time, without exception, and that Huet stays as solid as he has been lately.
January 30, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Exactly, Chris. A Fedorov type of player for penatly killing and faceoffs and a better winger to replace Ryder is exactly what I’d like to see before I get overly excited about a possible cup.
January 31, 2008 at 1:23 am
I just heard Burke has a 6 million cap spot and he’s looking for another impact player,yikes!
January 31, 2008 at 8:45 am
that is true
January 31, 2008 at 11:33 am
welcome to the site Habfreak
January 31, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I agree with Habsfan…..if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. We’re winning without contributions from the “1st” line. Koivu got a few points this last couple of games, but I’d be surprised if he keeps it up…..he’s been streaky for 11 years now, so no one should expect that to change. Look at ikt this way…if we’re winning without these three racking up points, why not keep em together….they can’t get any worst productionwise….at the very least they may even find their groove from last year and start scoring down the stretch.
Heres the thing with Ryder…..the powers that be, have to decide what to do with him because of other reasons….they have to look into the future and see if he’s gonna sign with them again next year. Personally, I think we’ve seen the end of Ryder in Montreal. Now Bob has to decide if he thinks this also…..and if he does, moving Ryder before the deadline would be a good move….at least get something for him now. It is kinda the same deal with Souray last year at this time, with one big difference, Souray was producing and we needed him for a playoff run we thought we were going to have. It was a gamble, and we ended up with no playoffs, no Souray, and nothing for him. Not that it’s a bad thing now, seeing how his year in Edm is going…we dodged a bullet there. Anyways, these desicions are for Bob to make.
I’d love to see Ryder stay put….I think he still has good potential…he’s just having a crappy year…players do come out of this…may not be til next year though. If there is a trade, we need to find a team with a Ryder-like player of there own….someone who can produce but who is just not doing it for whatever reason…a change of scenery could help both players, and both teams could benefit.
But for a good playoff run, Huet does have to remain magical, the PP has to continue producing as does the Kovy line. The PK has to improve, dumb penalties have to be reduced, and the presence of a tough guy would’nt go astray. I think the catching the Sens and having a chance at a higher seed than 4th could be a priority right now. They are having trouble with the Heatley and Alfie injuries, just so happens they have been playing weaker teams lately and still winning…they will run into tougher teams (including us) and we gotta kick em while they’re down…God knows its happened to us enough. All in all, I like this teams look this year…they’re fun to watch again…keep the fire burning boys and keep marching forward. GO HABS GO !!
January 31, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Is it just me, or is this site incredibly quiet?
Is it that most fans like to ***** when things aren’t gong well but don’t have much to say when the habs win?
January 31, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I have things to say weather they win or lose, lol…..Is just so much better not to have a hell of alot to ***** about lately…..lately it’s just been…tune into the game, watch 2 points get added to the total, and a great all round game being played. Not mcuh to ***** about….I’m sure everyone is just waiting for the next loss, lol…..That’s just the way it goes for a faithful follower. Can you imagine what the Leafs blog site is like, lol….Nothing good to talk about for 41 years now, and no promising future in sight…..that blog site must soon be all bitched out. Good to see them fail so horribly though, because, and any other Habs fan in english Canada with agree…..all you ever hear about on TV, weather they win or lose, is the G-damn Leafs….enough is enough, and it’s good to see all these biased commentators have nothing to say about this franchise anymore.
Anyone agree? Montreal, Ottawa, Calgary and Vancouver…4 of our countries 6 teams are playing well….and it’s still Leafs, Leafs, Leafs….gotta turn the stomach of a non-fan and make us hate them more.
They were all complaining about McCabe before his injury cuz his mistakes were hurting the team, and since then its been…”well, it’s hard to win without McCabe in our lineup”……jackasses. And this is the kinda sh*t we gotta hear every day on english sports TV. Really, enough with the Leafs…start giving the other Canadian teams some props, and stop whining about what the problem is in Toronto….really, it’s become old, and no one cares anymore. Sign Tucker to a contract that size, you deserve to fail….he’s only Montreals scraps.Go out and sign Sittler back into the lineup next year and all your problems will be over again Leaf fans, lol.
Anyways, guys, don’t know where this rant came from…just built up from months and years of listening to the Leafs whine, lol.Good luck in Washington tonight troops…keep flying high….GO HABS GO !!!
January 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
To change the subject again, of all the rumours I’ve been reading about possible Montreal trades there is always mention of young players headed out of town for various veterans. Right now, what young players on Montreal would you be willing to part with in a deal (regardless of who the deal is for). Right now I would think that the Kostitsyn’s and Plekanec are untouchable?
February 1, 2008 at 8:50 pm
At this rat next year ovechkin is supposed to get 90+ goals plus 76 assists. that means about 166 points! Hope breaks the great one’s record for goals!
-Pactum Severa
February 1, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Man that would be incredible
February 7, 2008 at 11:27 pm
I think Koivu has overstayed his welcome. He has not scored in 12 games, loses every face off and is on for most goals against the team. Carboneau needs a wake up call and stop putting that line out for crucial play. what a joke.