Alex Tanguay a Montreal Canadien
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According to several sources the Canadiens have acquired Alex Tanguay in exchange for their 25th pick and a second round pick in 2009.
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- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
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June 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm
we will just have to see if Gainey makes us contenders or AGAIN, pretenders.
A repeat of off season non activity by Gainey will be doom and gllom for the habs.
June 30, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I think that Sundin will be a hab if Montreal still has cap space when he finally makes up his mind what he wants to do. Montreal is his best destination. I think it’s a great fit for him on this team.
Unfortunately, Gainey can’t wait on him.
If, however, Gainey can’t sign a big name such as Hossa he may stay with what he has or add a few character and less expensive players. With this method he’ll replace players that won’t be back like Brisebois, Smolinski, etc. and still have room for Sundin when he (Sundin) finally wakes up and makes a decision.
If there’s no Hossa or Sundin tomorrow, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a player like a Cory Stillman, or even Shanahan. Recchi wouldn’t even surprise me.
June 30, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Recchi is done like toast, and Shanahan couldn’t keep up with his linemates, and too old. Tucker would be cheap, or Bertuzzi? Anyways it would have to be a 2nd or 3rd tier player, you know, someone crappy.
June 30, 2008 at 11:25 pm
I also have to wonder if Montreal will be going into next season with Halak as the backup. Might be better if they could deal him and bring in a fairly cheap backup like Denis, Conklin, or Kolzig.
June 30, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I agree that Recchi and Shanahan are older and slower. But players who are strong in the dressing room are needed on this young team. These guys can still put up some points. Either one could do more than Smolinski.
June 30, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Montreal shuld just get Tucker. He’s been here before and Hossa wouldn’t help us at all. Bertuzzi hasn’t done much and he’s like 4 Mill. I would actually like to see Denis in Montreal. If Price goes down I rather have a guy with lots of heart(Denis being a hab fan) to back up Price just in case something happened. I love Halak but he needs more ice time.(AHL) Sundin probably won’t make up his mind until August! Get some french or Canadian guys, If ur going to get more russians get Zhitnik or Federov lol. but guys I would just eep it simple. Hossa probably wants a whopping 8 Mill for 7 years! Sundin would be fine though because he’s only a 1 year kind of guy. but hey guys, Shneider will be traded, maybe to Montreal where he won the cup? Trade Francis Boullion and a prospect/pick for him.
June 30, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Gainey will wait for Sundin — as well he should. Sundin is the best available this off-season. I don’t think Hossa is the player for Montreal, especially if he wants a long-term contract. My top 3 choices for power forward, in order, are Fedorov, Bertuzzi, and Shanahan. If we can’t get any of those 3, I would get Laracque, and put him on a line with Grabovski, who would then have more room to operate. I would like to see Grabovski get a legitimate chance to play in Montreal.
June 30, 2008 at 11:56 pm
roberts here for 1 year and 1mill seemed good to me but now he in TB too:D
June 30, 2008 at 11:59 pm
I rather see Chipchura play instead of Grabovski because Chipchura is more rough and has alot more heart. Lapierre actually has some offensive touch. and guys, don’t forget about Gregory Stewart!!! lol I agree with Laraque.If things aren’t going great just trade for some one big at the T, don’t get a crapp Hossa like player now! Sundin would get us all set and ready to go though lol Shanahan would come here for 1.5 Mill but I like my idea of having 1 guy form the 93 team Matheu Snhieder
July 1, 2008 at 12:22 am
Denis and Shanahan would be great! And I agree, Chipchura should play the whole year. He’s going to be a great player.
July 1, 2008 at 2:16 am
Well, if you guys think Chipchura can be that good, we don’t need another forward. Just sign Mats, and we’re ready to party. That would give us 4 very solid forward lines as follows:
1st Line: Sundin between the 2 Kostitysn boys;
2nd Line: Koivu between Tanguay and Kovalev;
3rd Line: Plekanec between Higgins and Latendresse;
4th Line: Lapierre between Chipchura and Kotsopolous/Begin/or Stewart
This would even allow us to trade one of our forwards, and re-sign both Gorges and Streit. Streit coming back will help with the development of Yannik Weber, who is also from Switzerland and a huge fan of Streit’s.
July 1, 2008 at 8:49 am
Hossa is not coming. He’s going to Boston for $100 mil for 10 years. Unbelievable! but they way he produces every year, could give the bruins many years of great scoring. Gainey would never have the balls to give out that kind of money. That’s why habs will never win a cup with Gainey as GM.
July 1, 2008 at 9:40 am
guys come on Bob Gainey is a great GM. We came 1st place last year guys, but we were just too inexpierienced but now nothing can take the habns down. If we took away Tanguay I stil though we could win the cup. But we should get 1 guy from the 93 cup winning team. Snheider would be easy to get trade Francis Boullion and something else lol. I don’t think gainey is getting Sundin, Gainey is too smart and won’t take a risk. He’s going to have an offer for anyone, and if no one takes it, Mats is coming to town.lol but I’m really excited for this and theres so many guys could help s out. even Hossa, Hossa might be a *****, but just like the pens, It would just be way too much and no one would be able to handle us. lol
July 1, 2008 at 9:54 am
I doubt very much that Montreal is interested in Streit. Just like Souray he is overrated based on a few stats. The facts are that he got so may points for a defenceman simply because he was playing forward.
His points are impressive whatever he played, but he proved soft at times at forward and is ineffective at the front of the net when playing defence.
Everyone thought Montreal would be terrible without Souray and look what happened. Streit to me is not as important as many people think and would be better replaced with a Jason Smith or Mike Commodore. That type of a defenceman would be a better help to Price as well.
July 1, 2008 at 9:54 am
Habs need to forget about Sundin and pursue some other fine talent (ie. Brian Rolston now that he’s told TB to shove it). Sundin will just keep them on a string until all the other talent is already signed elsewhere. Forget him and move on while you still can get someone else.
July 1, 2008 at 10:19 am
Is it possible that a team that has Marcel Hossa would have a better chance of landing Marian?
July 1, 2008 at 10:31 am
I agree 86&93. Rolston would be much cheaper than Hossa, provides more two way play and grit and would leave salary for Sundin down the road if needed.
I also think Montreal will be needing cap room for a backup goalie. I still think Denis or Kolzig.
July 1, 2008 at 10:36 am
lol yeah guys, I just noticed that Rolston is going on to the UFA lol (kinda late) ummm I think Rolston would get us the cup. put him on the 1st line 3rd line would be the belarus line!:)
July 1, 2008 at 10:49 am
Habs need Sundin or Rolston, but NOT Hossa, who has NO leadership impact.
Rolston was rated the most under estimated UFA by Bob M from TSN.
July 1, 2008 at 11:46 am
Awefully quiet day altogether…anyone hearing anything? Anything at all?
July 1, 2008 at 12:15 pm
well Montreal hasn’t done anything but Edmonton got Gilbert Brule and Erik Cole
July 1, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Nothing ? OMG NOTHING !!!
We dont need to panic we have a good team and we are all ready better with Alex in and Michael out, lets see where we are at the end of the day.
July 1, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Gainey needs to push and be super aggressive to try and land Rolston. A power center like that, cheaper than Sundin is exactly what the habs need. Promise him a 3 year deal, but GET IT DONE BOB!!!!
July 1, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I say we can look at alot of players and end up a better team for it,but we are not alone in the league and all the other teams are making offers as well,its not as easy as sitting here saying we should do this and that.I trust Bob will do what he can to better this team.
July 1, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I think we’ll end up with nobody, same as last year, and the year before, and the year before…. and so on and so forth. Some things never change.
July 1, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Montreal will get some one. The last couple of year Montreal sucked *** and no one wanted to go on a canadiens losing team. But now Montreal wants the cup more than any team and I bet if we gave Rolston 5.5 or 6 Mill he would come.
July 1, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Anyone know if Gainey has any interest in Laracque. He would give them some needed toughness, and with a guy like Rolston, a down low presence they lacked against Philly.
July 1, 2008 at 12:57 pm
TB just signed Vrbata. TB will win the cup this year because they’re aggressive, unlike Gainey!
July 1, 2008 at 1:37 pm
hab faithful, why so negative? And why so anti-Gainey?? If you think paying Hossa $100 million — that’s ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!!! — is the way to a Stanley Cup, you are sadly mistaken.
July 1, 2008 at 1:40 pm
oh Hab Faithful you are so silly, with no goaltending or defense I`m pretty sure they will win the cup.
is it really important that we pick someone up to you(I don`t think so) we did pretty well last year with no impact player wouldn`t you agree, first in our divison 2nd round in the playoffs for a team that was suppose to finish 14th…..it`s Canada Day go outside and enjoy the day
July 1, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Hab Faithful doesn’t sound very “faithful” to me!!!
July 1, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I love the habs but don’t like our GM. He’s all talk and never signs any UFA’s. He’s way too passive. I’m not saying we’ll have a bad team. They’be be good, but not great, and not cup contenders. I just don’t see him getting the job done. Just my opinion. If you think he’s signed alot of significant UFA’s, more power to you.
July 1, 2008 at 2:07 pm
And if you think Tampa’s winning the cup this year you’re just crazy!
July 1, 2008 at 2:22 pm
change your name to hab unfaithful, I think Tampa Bay has a blog why don`t you get on that one, and I see you didn`t take my advice by enjoying Canada day…
I think our GM is very good, for what he did in the past 5 years by rebuiding this team and the loss of his daughter what more do you want from him…all the UFA this year are worth nothing to me.
So hab faithful don`t be to upset today when no one is signed on and we get 1st overall in our divison and we take a shot at the cup…
July 1, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Habs sign Andrei Kostitsyn for 3 yrs at an estimated $3.25M per !!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242182&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main
July 1, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Canucks offering Sundin $10M a year!!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242175&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main
July 1, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Remember Gary Bettman saying on Draft night that if teams talk to any impending free agents, they will be charged with “tampering?” Well, it seems to me that ALL the teams were tampering — how else do you explain the fact that there were so many free agent signings on the VERY FIRST DAY??? It takes DAYS to iron out a contract, not minutes. This is proof positive that these teams were talking to the UFA’s even prior to July 1.