Alex Tanguay a Montreal Canadien
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According to several sources the Canadiens have acquired Alex Tanguay in exchange for their 25th pick and a second round pick in 2009.
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- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
- Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
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June 30, 2008 at 9:37 pm
we will just have to see if Gainey makes us contenders or AGAIN, pretenders.
A repeat of off season non activity by Gainey will be doom and gllom for the habs.
June 30, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I think that Sundin will be a hab if Montreal still has cap space when he finally makes up his mind what he wants to do. Montreal is his best destination. I think it’s a great fit for him on this team.
Unfortunately, Gainey can’t wait on him.
If, however, Gainey can’t sign a big name such as Hossa he may stay with what he has or add a few character and less expensive players. With this method he’ll replace players that won’t be back like Brisebois, Smolinski, etc. and still have room for Sundin when he (Sundin) finally wakes up and makes a decision.
If there’s no Hossa or Sundin tomorrow, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a player like a Cory Stillman, or even Shanahan. Recchi wouldn’t even surprise me.
June 30, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Recchi is done like toast, and Shanahan couldn’t keep up with his linemates, and too old. Tucker would be cheap, or Bertuzzi? Anyways it would have to be a 2nd or 3rd tier player, you know, someone crappy.
June 30, 2008 at 11:25 pm
I also have to wonder if Montreal will be going into next season with Halak as the backup. Might be better if they could deal him and bring in a fairly cheap backup like Denis, Conklin, or Kolzig.
June 30, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I agree that Recchi and Shanahan are older and slower. But players who are strong in the dressing room are needed on this young team. These guys can still put up some points. Either one could do more than Smolinski.
June 30, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Montreal shuld just get Tucker. He’s been here before and Hossa wouldn’t help us at all. Bertuzzi hasn’t done much and he’s like 4 Mill. I would actually like to see Denis in Montreal. If Price goes down I rather have a guy with lots of heart(Denis being a hab fan) to back up Price just in case something happened. I love Halak but he needs more ice time.(AHL) Sundin probably won’t make up his mind until August! Get some french or Canadian guys, If ur going to get more russians get Zhitnik or Federov lol. but guys I would just eep it simple. Hossa probably wants a whopping 8 Mill for 7 years! Sundin would be fine though because he’s only a 1 year kind of guy. but hey guys, Shneider will be traded, maybe to Montreal where he won the cup? Trade Francis Boullion and a prospect/pick for him.
June 30, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Gainey will wait for Sundin — as well he should. Sundin is the best available this off-season. I don’t think Hossa is the player for Montreal, especially if he wants a long-term contract. My top 3 choices for power forward, in order, are Fedorov, Bertuzzi, and Shanahan. If we can’t get any of those 3, I would get Laracque, and put him on a line with Grabovski, who would then have more room to operate. I would like to see Grabovski get a legitimate chance to play in Montreal.
June 30, 2008 at 11:56 pm
roberts here for 1 year and 1mill seemed good to me but now he in TB too:D
June 30, 2008 at 11:59 pm
I rather see Chipchura play instead of Grabovski because Chipchura is more rough and has alot more heart. Lapierre actually has some offensive touch. and guys, don’t forget about Gregory Stewart!!! lol I agree with Laraque.If things aren’t going great just trade for some one big at the T, don’t get a crapp Hossa like player now! Sundin would get us all set and ready to go though lol Shanahan would come here for 1.5 Mill but I like my idea of having 1 guy form the 93 team Matheu Snhieder
July 1, 2008 at 12:22 am
Denis and Shanahan would be great! And I agree, Chipchura should play the whole year. He’s going to be a great player.
July 1, 2008 at 2:16 am
Well, if you guys think Chipchura can be that good, we don’t need another forward. Just sign Mats, and we’re ready to party. That would give us 4 very solid forward lines as follows:
1st Line: Sundin between the 2 Kostitysn boys;
2nd Line: Koivu between Tanguay and Kovalev;
3rd Line: Plekanec between Higgins and Latendresse;
4th Line: Lapierre between Chipchura and Kotsopolous/Begin/or Stewart
This would even allow us to trade one of our forwards, and re-sign both Gorges and Streit. Streit coming back will help with the development of Yannik Weber, who is also from Switzerland and a huge fan of Streit’s.
July 1, 2008 at 8:49 am
Hossa is not coming. He’s going to Boston for $100 mil for 10 years. Unbelievable! but they way he produces every year, could give the bruins many years of great scoring. Gainey would never have the balls to give out that kind of money. That’s why habs will never win a cup with Gainey as GM.
July 1, 2008 at 9:40 am
guys come on Bob Gainey is a great GM. We came 1st place last year guys, but we were just too inexpierienced but now nothing can take the habns down. If we took away Tanguay I stil though we could win the cup. But we should get 1 guy from the 93 cup winning team. Snheider would be easy to get trade Francis Boullion and something else lol. I don’t think gainey is getting Sundin, Gainey is too smart and won’t take a risk. He’s going to have an offer for anyone, and if no one takes it, Mats is coming to town.lol but I’m really excited for this and theres so many guys could help s out. even Hossa, Hossa might be a *****, but just like the pens, It would just be way too much and no one would be able to handle us. lol
July 1, 2008 at 9:54 am
I doubt very much that Montreal is interested in Streit. Just like Souray he is overrated based on a few stats. The facts are that he got so may points for a defenceman simply because he was playing forward.
His points are impressive whatever he played, but he proved soft at times at forward and is ineffective at the front of the net when playing defence.
Everyone thought Montreal would be terrible without Souray and look what happened. Streit to me is not as important as many people think and would be better replaced with a Jason Smith or Mike Commodore. That type of a defenceman would be a better help to Price as well.
July 1, 2008 at 9:54 am
Habs need to forget about Sundin and pursue some other fine talent (ie. Brian Rolston now that he’s told TB to shove it). Sundin will just keep them on a string until all the other talent is already signed elsewhere. Forget him and move on while you still can get someone else.
July 1, 2008 at 10:19 am
Is it possible that a team that has Marcel Hossa would have a better chance of landing Marian?
July 1, 2008 at 10:31 am
I agree 86&93. Rolston would be much cheaper than Hossa, provides more two way play and grit and would leave salary for Sundin down the road if needed.
I also think Montreal will be needing cap room for a backup goalie. I still think Denis or Kolzig.
July 1, 2008 at 10:36 am
lol yeah guys, I just noticed that Rolston is going on to the UFA lol (kinda late) ummm I think Rolston would get us the cup. put him on the 1st line 3rd line would be the belarus line!:)
July 1, 2008 at 10:49 am
Habs need Sundin or Rolston, but NOT Hossa, who has NO leadership impact.
Rolston was rated the most under estimated UFA by Bob M from TSN.
July 1, 2008 at 11:46 am
Awefully quiet day altogether…anyone hearing anything? Anything at all?
July 1, 2008 at 12:15 pm
well Montreal hasn’t done anything but Edmonton got Gilbert Brule and Erik Cole
July 1, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Nothing ? OMG NOTHING !!!
We dont need to panic we have a good team and we are all ready better with Alex in and Michael out, lets see where we are at the end of the day.
July 1, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Gainey needs to push and be super aggressive to try and land Rolston. A power center like that, cheaper than Sundin is exactly what the habs need. Promise him a 3 year deal, but GET IT DONE BOB!!!!
July 1, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I say we can look at alot of players and end up a better team for it,but we are not alone in the league and all the other teams are making offers as well,its not as easy as sitting here saying we should do this and that.I trust Bob will do what he can to better this team.
July 1, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I think we’ll end up with nobody, same as last year, and the year before, and the year before…. and so on and so forth. Some things never change.
July 1, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Montreal will get some one. The last couple of year Montreal sucked *** and no one wanted to go on a canadiens losing team. But now Montreal wants the cup more than any team and I bet if we gave Rolston 5.5 or 6 Mill he would come.
July 1, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Anyone know if Gainey has any interest in Laracque. He would give them some needed toughness, and with a guy like Rolston, a down low presence they lacked against Philly.
July 1, 2008 at 12:57 pm
TB just signed Vrbata. TB will win the cup this year because they’re aggressive, unlike Gainey!
July 1, 2008 at 1:37 pm
hab faithful, why so negative? And why so anti-Gainey?? If you think paying Hossa $100 million — that’s ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!!! — is the way to a Stanley Cup, you are sadly mistaken.
July 1, 2008 at 1:40 pm
oh Hab Faithful you are so silly, with no goaltending or defense I`m pretty sure they will win the cup.
is it really important that we pick someone up to you(I don`t think so) we did pretty well last year with no impact player wouldn`t you agree, first in our divison 2nd round in the playoffs for a team that was suppose to finish 14th…..it`s Canada Day go outside and enjoy the day
July 1, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Hab Faithful doesn’t sound very “faithful” to me!!!
July 1, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I love the habs but don’t like our GM. He’s all talk and never signs any UFA’s. He’s way too passive. I’m not saying we’ll have a bad team. They’be be good, but not great, and not cup contenders. I just don’t see him getting the job done. Just my opinion. If you think he’s signed alot of significant UFA’s, more power to you.
July 1, 2008 at 2:07 pm
And if you think Tampa’s winning the cup this year you’re just crazy!
July 1, 2008 at 2:22 pm
change your name to hab unfaithful, I think Tampa Bay has a blog why don`t you get on that one, and I see you didn`t take my advice by enjoying Canada day…
I think our GM is very good, for what he did in the past 5 years by rebuiding this team and the loss of his daughter what more do you want from him…all the UFA this year are worth nothing to me.
So hab faithful don`t be to upset today when no one is signed on and we get 1st overall in our divison and we take a shot at the cup…
July 1, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Habs sign Andrei Kostitsyn for 3 yrs at an estimated $3.25M per !!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242182&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main
July 1, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Canucks offering Sundin $10M a year!!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242175&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main
July 1, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Remember Gary Bettman saying on Draft night that if teams talk to any impending free agents, they will be charged with “tampering?” Well, it seems to me that ALL the teams were tampering — how else do you explain the fact that there were so many free agent signings on the VERY FIRST DAY??? It takes DAYS to iron out a contract, not minutes. This is proof positive that these teams were talking to the UFA’s even prior to July 1.