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All Eyes on Gainey

  1. #1 Don Carnage says:
    February 23, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Bravo Bob , you earned this honor without a doubt …

    In Bob we trust !!!

  2. #2 PACTUM SERVA says:
    February 23, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Congrats Bob. Lets kick some arse tonight now

  3. #3 East Coast says:
    February 23, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    I HATE HNIC!!! no one in NS wants to see another pointless boring TO game…. but what do we get?

  4. HMIC:Hockey nite in crisis,lol

  5. The Habs better blast out the Jactets tonight. To show Bob that he’s doing a great job as our General Manager. And as for Michael Ryder, He’s going to have to score alot of goals to change Gainey’s mind. Because I still think he’s going.:{

  6. So maybe we should send Huet and Price to the Bulldogs and call up Halak and Denis?

  7. hey xtrahabsfan; I was thinking the same thing. send Price and Huet to Hamilton, and bring up Halak and Denis. I heard Halak is playing great. because honestly I don’t see the habs making the playoffs with Huet and Price. They both stink! actually, Edmonton has a goalie, Roloson, that’s available. trade for him, or else it’s not happening for the habs.

  8. #9 East Coast says:
    February 23, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    playing like junk

  9. The team that Gainey built ,YIKES!!!

  10. #11 East Coast says:
    February 23, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    lets not be too harsh (yet)… one quick goal and its a one goal game. its not like its out of reach

  11. All I want is a 60 minute effort, and good goaltending. Is that so much to ask for?

  12. #13 Dancan81 says:
    February 23, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    what a bore so far. btw our goaltending blows right now. maybe losing tow before the deadline is a good thing.

  13. #14 groundworking says:
    February 23, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Huet is the goalie they should ride. Price is a great goalie, but he’s not ready to carry an NHL team on his shoulders. Give him another year. It wasn’t until later in his 21st year that Roy was able to carry the Habs.

    If Huet fails when given the torch; fine. That just means he’s not a rideable goaltender in high pressure situations. If Price fails when given the torch; what does that do for the confidence of the future Canadiens’ goaltender.

    Price is a great goalie; but he isn’t ready. He isn’t mature enough yet (and who would be at 20?) It has shown the last few games.

  14. #15 East Coast says:
    February 23, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    this has been a very boring game thus far

  15. HALAK!HALAK!HALAK!HALAK!HALAK!HALAK!HALAK! I think you know who I want in goal!

  16. #17 East Coast says:
    February 23, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    that was the lamest effort i have seen in a while (watched on the online cbc feed)long lazy wrist shots from the hash marks or blasts from the point with no one in front of the net. no one crahed the net, and didnlt even think baout looking for rebounds.

    heres to the next game. may the effort be better. they are still a fast talented team. just did not show up.

  17. east coast; you said the magic words: DIDN’T SHOW UP! how many times this season have we heard that same song? more than times they’ve showed up!
    I’m fed up.

  18. Man ,if I was a G.M. from another team looking for something special and seen the Habs tonite I would phone Bob Gainey out or respect and offered him some minor leaguers to help him out as I drove away laughing as fast as I could from Montreal!!!

  19. Ok goodbye Ryder. No goals. No Offence by anyone. Bob Gainey is going to get someone huge! Hopefully not Hossa! Tanguay or Sundin!!!

  20. Consistency……..theres none!!! The 2 faces of this team are like night and day, and no one knows what team is gonna show up from game to game. Price is gonna be good, he’s just gotta mature…..not every young goalie coming through the Habs system is gonna be another Roy. Beside, Price could have let only 1 goal in last night and they still would have lost…ya gotta score to win.
    Anyways, as I was saying, the consistency factor has to be better or we’re going nowhere….lose 3-0 to the lowest scoring team in the league when we are the 3rd highest scoring team in the league….but come back from a 5-0 deficet to beat a better team? These 2 games are as far apart on the spectrum as possibe. We always have trouble against bottom teams and thats the difference in a good team and a great team.
    Win 4, lose 4? I’ll tell ya….if we decide to lose another 4 in a row at the wrong time, no matter how good we’re playing before that, it could mean being on the wrong side of a playoff sweep, and weirdly enough, looks like we gotta hope for no home ice advantage……can’t play at home.
    Still need a first line centre Bob…needed one for years now…we got a good second liner in Plekanec, and a 3rd liner in Koivu…that major 1st liner is still eluding us, and could be the difference in a more consistent and dynamic team. Hope its a good deal ya got brewing Bob…we’re all waiting to see who our help is gonna be. GO HABS GO !!!

  21. #22 Ribberman says:
    February 24, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Makes you wonder why the Habs couldn’t win one for their GM. They couldn’t get up for the game that was suppossed to honour the guy who signed them. HELLLOOOOOO!

  22. #23 Rubberman says:
    February 24, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    WHy not try Halak?

  23. #24 BarrieHabFan says:
    February 24, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    I didn’t see the first period of the Columbus game, so I don’t know how bad the goals were. I do know that the goaltending (from both goalies) hasn’t been the greatest of late. But it is usually a mistake to shake things up too much with goaltenders. It’s a very different position that relies on other types of qualities than most players such as confidence, mental focus, etc. And although these qualities are imporatant for all players they are especially so for tenders. And these can easily be damaged. Introducing another goalie to the mix right now, via Halak, would not be in the short term interest of the team. That would be next to conceding defeat this season. Halak is a good goalie, but he should not play in Montreal this year. If this was December or earlier I’d say go for it. But this is not the hunt for playoff positioning and Halak would only come in if they thought he could be the playoff goalie. And he can’t. The organization knows that Price is the better between Price and Halak so won’t send Price back down. Huet is obviously supposed to be the number one who will go into the playoffs.
    I think the real question is will Montreal trade Halak before the deadline to give him a chance and send a message that Huet will likely be re-signed in the off season, or will Montreal hold on to Halak as the back-up for next year knowing that Huet will likely leave or not be re-signed in July?

  24. #25 BarrieHabFan says:
    February 24, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    My bets for targets of Montreal right now:

    Right now I’d bet ot Ottawa getting Hossa and Sundin to the west. Tanguay doesn’t want to come to Montreal.

  25. #26 groundworking says:
    February 24, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Hi Barrie:

    The goals were pretty bad; one of them was terrible. The first goal was a cross-crease pass one-timer from about a 75 degree angle at 15 feet out. Nash didn’t get all of it, so Price had about 1 to 1.5 seconds to get across. The problem wasn’t so much that Price should have had it, but that he wasn’t even close. All he had to do was get from post to post, but instead he got caught standing still, hardly moved, and it showed quite clearly a nonchalance in a bad way. It was a save an NHL goaltender makes 9/10 times.

    The second goal was absolutely terrible, five-hole from 45 degree angle at about 25 feet out. Patrick Lalime style. Totally brutal. Down 2-0.

    The third goal you saw, but notice as well how many absolutely pathetic rebounds that Price gave out throughout the whole game. He didn’t bail his teammates out once; they bailed him out a bunch of times. He wasn’t even a good AHL goalie last night.

    The comments by the players after the game pretty much summed up some thinly veiled criticism. Komisarek: “it felt like 2 shots and 2 goals”. Carbonneau: “I don’t mind when you give up goals when the other team works for them. But when you just give them away, that’s another thing. Shots happen in a hockey game. I have never seen a game where shots didn’t happen”. In other words, Price sucked again.

    I say send him back to the minors. A number 1 goaltender, Huet, should be allowed to have bad game without losing a bunch of games to the second string. When Price is number 1, the same should apply to him.

  26. The Habs are on a two game losing streak? Forget the playoffs – better call it a season and start looking to the future. The goalies have been going through a rough stretch? Let’s can ’em both – after all, Dwayne Roloson and his stellar numbers might be available; Dan Cloutier too. We need more goalies. While we’re at it, neither Kovalev nor Plekanec managed a point last game. Let’s send them down to the minors to teach them a lesson or, better yet, trade them!

    I’m continually amazed at the sense of impending doom that takes over as soon as soon as everything isn’t going perfectly. If some of the people here had their way we would’ve abandoned Brodeur, Luongo and countless others as soon as they started to go through rough patches (especially Brodeur, as he’s been known to give up some weird ones). Apparently going 5-5 in the last ten games spells the end of the world. If people would look more closely, they’d see that there are only two teams in the whole league that have more than 6 wins in their last ten. The fact is the Habs are keeping pace and are still within striking distance of first place in the east.

    I’m not saying that everything is going perfectly, or that the Habs might not profit from a couple changes, but holy s**t. If I hear one more half-baked solution to our recent goaltending issues I’m going to scream. Before last game people were clamouring for Price and lauding him as the saviour of the season. One bad game later and Halak’s the answer. You can bet your money that if he struggles Danis will suddenly become the anointed one – proclaimed by the same people as the previous ones. I agree, if we start to go on a slide like Philadelphia there will be need for drastic action. For the moment, though, we’re just playing like an average team as opposed to an elite one. In any case, it hardly seems to justify the ridiculous ideas that are being thrown around here (Dwayne Roloson?!?!?!?! Yeah, there’s our solution…)

  27. I think that the previous poster (groundworking) makes a great point – how many other teams are there that bench their first string goalie as soon as he has a bad game? If we want Huet to get back into a groove (which he’s shown he’s capable of, and which, I think we should face it, is what we’ll need if we’re actually going to make some kind of impression this season), give him a chance to bounce back after a game like Saturday instead of sitting him on the bench.

  28. Huet has NEVER been in a groove! we’ve lost 8 of our last 12. mini slump?
    I think NOT, considering the fact that habs always play poorly at the 60 game mark EVERY SEASON! and why does this team come out flat every damn game?
    It’s the coach’s responsibility to motivate his players. IU have never seen a team have so many NO SHOW efforts. it’s like they just don’t care.
    maybe too many euros on this team. I think they’re too busy polishing their golf clubs. If that’s the case, they won’t have long to wait.

  29. #30 groundworking says:
    February 24, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Huet has the 12th best save percentage in the NHL, the 10th best among goalies with more than 30 games played, and the fourth best in the Eastern Conference. Goaltending isn’t a problem on most nights. If the Canadians can get a goaltender with more than a .900 save pct on any given night, there’s a good chance that they’re going to win. Unlike the Leafs, we don’t need Tretiak and a young Hasek guarding the net simultaneously in order to win hockey games.

    Huet should be handed the torch. He’s older. If he can’t back a team in the playoffs now, then it’s better to know this now what next year or the year after when the Habs are clear favorites to win the cup.

    I also agree that Halak deserves a shot, statswise. I’m thinking that the management might have some concerns with his attitude, and we’ve seen the great lengths that Gaigney and Carbonneau will go to prevent the culture of the dressing room from getting spoiled.

    CM and I agree. Price is definitely a goaltender of the future. But there’s a thin line, as Alex Kovalev has shown us over the last few years, between being calm under pressure and not really caring that much. Between being confident and arrogant. And yet there’s also a huge gap between having all of the talent in the world and being a great hockey player.

    I wasn’t going to say anything, but I’ll say it anyway. Price lets in 3 goals on 4 shots against the Rangers. In the second period, Habs losing 5-0, the camera zooms in on the Habs bench and Price puts his water bottle in front of the camera to joke around with the camera men. I don’t play in the NHL, but I play competitive sports. And it’s damn hard to find a smile on a hockey team, especially among elite players, when losing is in the cards. Just look at how Patrick Roy handled the 9-1 loss to Detroit. He was furious. Great players, and great fans, and great hockey teams, don’t accept losing. They hate it. It’s a disease. A cancer. It’s something you brush off because you have to, not because it’s easy. You feel like killing someone when your team is losing, you feel almost like crying when you lose. Champions hate losing worse than anything. They “handle it” gracefully when it happens; but they don’t accept it. There’s no such thing as a “good loser” in competitive sport. A 20 year old who can joke with the cameramen when his team is losing, and when guys like Begin are getting their heads smashed into the boards, when Kovalev is backchecking every shift, and when Ryder is breaking out of a 50 game slump, is a 20 year old who isn’t ready for the NHL, and most certainly not the jersey of the Montreal Canadiens.


  30. Never been in a groove? Check out the 18 games before January 23 – he only had 4 games with a save percentage below .900. Moreover, as of a week or two ago, Huet had the second highest save percentage of all starting goalies over the last three years (only Backstrom’s was better, and he wasn’t even in the league three years ago). You can say all you want about how numbers don’t tell the whole story, but to me that indicates a goalie who has shown himself worthy of a starting job not once, but many times over. Does this guarantee he’s going to play well for the rest of the season? Of course not. But it shows that he’s capable of it and should be given the chance to prove it.

  31. And yes, the Euros are definitely the problem. Damn them for being the 6 highest scorers on the teams and taking over the position of starting goaltender. As if that wasn’t enough, the wankers have given us a chance at the eastern crown. Seriously, let’s get rid of them.

  32. It amazes me the number of people here who always wants management’s head every time we have a losing streak.

    Or they start going after players and yell trade them.

    I hate those two faced so-called habs fans who whine and complain when we lose. Then when we start winning they jump back on the bandwagon.

    If you are a true fan you would know that there is no such team that can win every single game.
    Everybody has their slump.
    Nobody is perfect.

    I can see why 90% of the players don’t want to come to montreal. Cuz as soon as you mess up those fake fans start booing you.

    Reality check. Look at the standings. We are still up there. We still have a shot to be #1 in the conference. And possibly go far in the playoffs.

    I have a message for all you fake habs fans: next time you want to call for blood, think of how lowly the leafs are. Compare us to them.

    Then maybe just maybe you will shut up and cheer for the habs. (whether we win or not).

  33. #34 BarrieHabFan says:
    February 24, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    I agree with you to a point Brock. Some people do overreact with every single loss and fail to look at the overall picture. But I do think that some complaining and even anger over poor play is what prevents the habs from becoming like the Leafs. Leaf fans will love their team no matter what. Some call that a strength, I call it the reason they haven’t won a cup since 1967!
    So I do think there should be some malcontent, or speculation about trades when there is a perceived long-term flaw with the team. But, again, to support what you have said I do beleive that many of us do micro-analyse the team and can over react after one or two bad games or individual performances.

  34. #35 BarrieHabFan says:
    February 24, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Having said that, I do still beleive that Halak should not come up at this point in the season. Many of you are most likely right that Huet should be given the ball to run with. If he stumbles then it really is too late to fix it now. But Price should remain the back-up. He has looked very good in some games, and apparently very bad in others. At this time of year, he should only be going in to give Huet a break. Not to punish Huet for having a bad game. And the habs may very well lose when either are in the net. But the team should be preparing for the playoffs and that would indicate picking a goalie now to use extensively and that, clearly, would be Huet.

  35. FACT: the habs have lost 8 of their last 12!
    Fact: the rangers are beating Florida 3-0. If they win, they’re only 3 points behind the habs.
    Fact: the habs have come out flat in almost every game the past month.
    Fact: Huet has never won a playoff series for us.
    He couldn’t win against Carolina, and he couldn’tstop a puck last season in the most important game of the season. He is a MEDIOCRE goalie at best. A CAREER BACKUP! STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!
    He has never won a pressure game, and as soon as Price came back to the team, he couldn’t win. HE CAN’T HANDLE PRESSURE. AND THIS IS THE GOALIE SOME OF YOU WANT? Reality check people. We don’t have the goaltending to make the playoffs, not to mention the fact that this team comes out flat every game.
    I’ll tell you who I respect. THE BOSTON BRUINS. they have less talent than the habs, yet manage to put in a 60 minute effort every game. They show up every game, and aren’t quitters, unlike our team. They have a terrific cosch who’se able to motivate players, and they have grit and toughness.
    kudos to the BRUINS!

  36. #37 BarrieHabFan says:
    February 24, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    I haven’t been a huge fan of Huet lately either. But Huet is the best the habs have right now and I think that he will improve from the level of play he’s providing right now. I would be amazed if Montreal traded for a new #1 goalie at this time. Huet is capable of taking the team a long way in the playoffs. I honestly don’t think management is overly worried about gaoltending. It will come around. It’s finding a few defensive minded forwards and perhaps that big name player they’re concerned about right now.

  37. 1 word…EXELBY. we need grit and can’t afford komisarek to take penalties so why not get him????????????? 8)

  38. Huet is a UFA so we MUST trade him for something!!!! I was thinking huet ryder and a 3rd round pick in 2010 for Nabokov :)

  39. If Gainey doesn’t make a significant trade, the team will be totally demotivated. So if we think the team is flat now, look out! yes, we need size, strength and power. You see what happens to a small wimpy team by game #60?
    out of gas, no energy and total fatigue! Isn’t 14 years enough time for a GM to acquire size?

  40. It appears some people have their facts a little off, so let’s go through them.

    1. The Canadiens have actually only lost 6 of their last 12 games; they are 6-6. This is not even bad enough to qualify as a slump, let alone a call for despair. It’s mediocre play, no more no less.

    2. If we’re worrying about the standings, yes the Rangers are only three points back. But by the same measure, the Habs are only three back of the Sens.

    3. Whether or not they’ve come out flat “almost every game”, that’s purely a matter of opinion. If that’s the case, though, it would seem to indicate that their goaltending is bailing them out if anything.

    4. Huet has only ever had one chance in the playoffs, and was great other than the final goal.

    The only thing that I can say for certain is that the Habs are in the hunt for the division lead with a team that no one picked at the beginning of the season to make the playoffs. Keep up the good work Habs, and I’ll be cheering them into the first round and beyond.

  41. #42 Don Carnage says:
    February 25, 2008 at 12:21 am

    Seems Mats Sudin will stick to the Laffs …

  42. #43 BarrieHabFan says:
    February 25, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Wouldn’t it be something if all the Leaf players refused to waive the no trade clause? Kind of put a hamper on rebuilding the team, wouldn’t it?

  43. hey CM: take the rose colored glasses off!

  44. it’s too bad some people are in denial. how soon they forget what happened last year. for but a very few changes, we have the same type of team. last year inconsistent goaltending in the 2nd half of the season, couldn’t score 5 on 5, bad coaching, only 1 line scoring, too soft and too small, inconsistent defence, not showing up . This team has made very little progress.
    And when was the last stanley cup winner with a european captain?

  45. I say we get Jarret Stoll! He is a nice gritty player that can win face offs alot. And he’s also a right handed player too, which we lack. Also canadian and almost won with the Oilers.

  46. I don’t care who we get as long as we don’t give up toom many plays.example: Higgins and Streit.

  47. #48 wingsrule76 says:
    February 25, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Carey Price isn’t all he’s cracked up to be. He is not the second coming of the almighty just yet and should still be in Hamilton. The Habs should have used this time to showcase Halak a little. Now with the deadline at our door the Habs will be better served by getting a shut down D-Man to play with Hamerlik. 3 D-Men deep into the playoffs is not going to cut it. Beef Bouillon/Dandyboy/Crackwood are not going to work. O’Byrne has promise and Streit is good offensivly but they don’t fix the holes. For the most part a tender is as good as his Defense if they aren’t a superstar to begin with. Just ask Hasek and Osgood how easy they’ve had it more most of the year facing 15 shots a game. Now that the Wings defense is depleted look at them now.

  48. #49 Ice Man says:
    February 25, 2008 at 12:52 pm



  49. Man, I knew before I read this page that all I would read would be HJ bitching about goaltending and saying we’re out of the playoffs. This guy is part of the reason why people don’t want to play in Montreal. This guy isn’t going to be happy until we win every game throughout the season. Just relax man, teams lose sometimes. Ottawa lost to Columbus last week too. We had a bad game Saturday night, there is no denying it, but why does every loss always have to be a sign of the team choking? Try a little support for once, we could be doing a lot worse than 5th in the Eastern Conference.

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