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The Habs lace em up tonight in Tronna in what should be a great return to action after the All-Star break.
The Canadiens were desperate heading into the two final games before the break after having their worst slump of the year. They pulled off two huge wins against strong teams in Atlanta and Buffalo and most of that slump is forgotten.
Which team will show up tonight? The same team that beats Division leaders or the team that struggled so badly in January?
The Christmas break preceded the Canadiens slump, hopefully the All-Star break won’t breed similar results.
The Leafs always raise their game when playing the Canadiens and tonight should be another interesting matchup.
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- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
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January 29, 2007 at 8:37 am
Guys,
I dont know how much you respect Red Fishers opinion, but I always have. Heres a copy of an email I got from him this am…..oh…soryy about the queen liz thing…lol…couldnt resist.
From : Fisher, Red (Montreal Gazette)
Sent : January 28, 2007 11:14:14 PM
To : “Marc True”
Subject : RE: has Carbonneau lost this team?
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Carbo hasn’t lost this team. He’s simply not getting te production he needs from people like Kovalev and Samsonov. Before the season began, I thought this team would finish No. 8 in the East, and right now they’re No. 5. So hang in there.
As for Burns, he won’t be looking for work any time soon.
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From: Marc True
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:27 PM
To: Fisher, Red (Montreal Gazette)
Subject: has Carbonneau lost this team?
Red,
I have enjoyed you work for over 30 years and respect your opinion. I have
not missed a habs game in at least 20 years and have never in that stretch
seen a team that just didnt care if they lost to the leafs on a saturday
night until this year. I know and ( certainly ) you know that this team has
decent talent and could ride that wave, maybe into the second round of the
playoffs if they just had a little heart and desire.
It seems to me that the players on this team do not fear any figure of
authority ( repect) and possibly have no pride on many given nights wearing
our storied jersey.
December 23rd, in Boston….that was our d day. Something happened Red.
There is more to the eye than the obvious here and I cant put my finger on
it, BUT I have at many different levels of hockey seen exactly this when a
coach has lost his team.
If Guy has lost them, they’re already gone Red and NOT coming back anytime
soon and IF he has lost them, there arent enough Forsbergs in the world to
bring them back.
um…..I hear Pat Burns might soon be looking for work?….that guy could
make a freight train take a dirt road.
thoughts?
in Fredericton
Marc True
January 29, 2007 at 11:10 am
Wow, forget Carbo losing the team, I think we’ve almost lost the blog. I took a break this weekend because my frustrations were getting the better part of me. The team looked flat Saturday and in a time where the habs needed a win with Buffalo losing and Senators winning, they were to say the least, disappointing. It is a matter of pride, so when we lose our frustrations mount and the finger pointing begins.
I think there is a cancer and it starts with us. We (as general fans) constantly questioning the organization, players, and each other eventually filters to the media and back to the organization. It seems we are constantly trying to drive wedges between people, with a fixation on the negatives, feeding this evil cancer to spread. When things were going good, like Carbo before the Christmas break was a coach of the year candidate, now there are some that have already written him off as a colossal failure. It seems there was a point that we’ve turned into junkies and the only “fix” is a quick win to satisfy these cravings. Not bad if we’re winning, so then we can keep our high, but don’t dare lose because no one wants to be around when a angry crack-head is looking for there next fix.
I hate to lose as much as the next guy and some losses sting more than others. At times I have harbored fears of a Habs downward spiral (usually immediately after a loss) but I do not state these fears as fact. I do NOT call out that players are terrible and that it is fact, because he had a turnover that lead to a goal or missed a wide-open shot. We should focus more on what has worked for us to make us more successful.
The season is not over, there is talent on this team, and we have beaten some of the top teams in the NHL. This is a team sport and when Montreal has come together as a team they have been unstoppable.
Go Habs Go!
January 29, 2007 at 11:32 am
the blog is fine coutNY…..as a matter of fact posting is actually up and thats what the blog is all about, whether or not we agree with everything that is said or what trend becomes apparant in our eyes.
I know a lot of my posts have been off the wall recently also, but I guess its my only way to try & get through this gauntlet with a smile and a laugh.Hopefully they made someone else smile too. Hockey is just a freaking game, and although I keep it #1 in my television viewing priorities, it comes dead last after family, work, golf, a beer,my great looking wife,my cars,snow removal and making sure there’s enough batteries in the house ( dont ask ).
Everyone here loves the habs, and each of them shows it in the only way they know how.Unfortunately for some it comes in the cloak of anger.For me…its time to laugh it off.
izzy…
January 29, 2007 at 1:03 pm
Izzy, True about the posting being up… although, it seems at times to be tied up with postings that would make a day time soap opera proud. Entertaining for a while but loses its luster. I know there are a bunch “feel good hab’s fans” are waiting in the wings when the habs win a few changing the talk to Cup runs and playoff expectations and I know there are negative-Nah-sayer’s lurking in the wings waiting say “I told you so” when they lose… and on any given day things will change!
We were bound to lose one, and this particular loss was not a good hard fought fight, but I do not think the team deserves to be constantly classified losers… maybe if we had a record as bad as Flyers or Chicago, but 5th in the East??? We are better position than last year, meaning we have improved… No I am not satisfied with the just improving, but last year we gave the reigning Cup holders some of there worst loses and best hard fought games in the playoffs. And Yes this means nothing now, but either will this loss come playoff time when the Leafs are playing gulf somewhere!