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Best Worst Goaltender Wins

  • The Habs and Leafs both in a battle for their playoff lives meet tonight in Montreal.

    Both coming off losses yesterday due to bad goaltending.

    The team that wins tonight is going to be the one with the best goaltending least crappy goaltending.

    Andrew Raycroft was pulled in his last visit to Montreal. David Aebischer has played so poorly that Guy Carbonneau is starting Jaro Halak again, who let 5 goals in on 15 shots in his last start.

    What choice does he have?

    It’s impossible to predict what kind of effort the Canadiens are going to bring to the table. The goaltending situation needs to improve for them to have any chance at staying in the race.

    The Canadiens can overtake the Leafs in the standings with a win tonight.

  1. #1 Habs#1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 1:58 pm

    Go get someone CAPABLE OF PLAYING 70 GAMES!’ Ya like it’s that easy. There are three goalie’s in the entire league capable of playing 70 or more games and if Gainey calls up Dave Nonis, Lou Lamerillo, or Darryl Sutter asking for Luongo, Brodeur or Kiprusoff respectively, he’ll get lauphed off the phone.

    And it’s Carbo’s first year coaching. What did you expect Scotty Bowman(who isn’t coming back so don’t hold out hope for that.)? Carbo is bound to make some mistakes, he’ll learn form them. Your acting like anything less then perfection is unacceptable, well guess what? Nobody’s perfect. Even the best make mistakes. And Bowman had the greatest roster of all around talent put together in the history of the game(the Oilers had the greatest offence of all time but their D wasn’t great and Fuhr was overrated). Carbo dosen’t have Shutt, Lafleur, Gainey, Lamaire, Robinson, Lapointe, Savard or Dryden to work with.

    The Habs roster isn’t that great. They drastically overacheived in the beginning of the year thanks to Huet AND CARBO. The players on this team aren’t great. When do the players become accountable(and yes I’m talking about the young guys to. Ryder is -27, Higgins is -17, Lapierre is -4, and Latendresse is -14. That means that the other team scores more on the Habs when they’re out there for you unintelligent hockey fans.). And the goaltenders suck. Until Halak and Price are ready to take the torch(mostly Price because he’s got the physical and mental tools to play 70+ games IN THE FUTURE. HE ISN’T READY YET!). So get used to this.

    Is that so hard…

  3. #3 R habs 4 real says:
    March 17, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    Carolina is leading the devils 3-0 in the 2nd! It’s all over guys! Our season is now officially over! Going into tonight’s game we will be 4 points out of 8th place. Just forget it! leafs, NYI, Carolina are all ahead of us, with games in hand. Just bring as many eggs as you can to the bell centre, and cream CARBO, the moron! To bad , but habs have no but themselves, and Abbyshit, to blame for all their losses. We can only pray that Gainey will make sufficient changes in the off season, or else it’s the same shit!

  4. #4 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    I agree it is all over but the cryin…Boo Hooo Hooo.

    Habs#1, That + / – shit don’t mean anything. That is a load of crap.

    I hope that Montreal looses big time tonight.

    I hope that Carbo gets pelted with so many tomatoes that he will be red for months.

    If the Montreal Fans there tonight had ANY GUTS AT ALL they would cause a riot at the bell centre.

    You can’t throw 21,000 people in the klink…………..

  5. #5 Guy#10 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    Is any body back tonight.
    Who’s stating in nets.

  6. #6 smiler2729 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    I just got the call here in Orangeville, I’m starting in goal tonight for the Habs, Gainey’s flying me in. A 42 year old beer league goaler eh, starting for Montreal on HNIC, pinch me.
    Okay, it’s the Guinness talking but hell, I have the heart, I have the size, the only thing I needed to make the NHL was that talent thing. Oh well, is Aebischer much better????

  7. #7 PACTUM SERVA says:
    March 17, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    lol and i will take lattendresse’s spot on the top line smiler.We will turn this team around buddy lol

  8. #8 R habs 4 real says:
    March 17, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    Why don’t we just put Youppi in nets. Can’t be any worse than Abbyshit, and he’s big. Just tie him to the goalposts and we’re all set.
    Sorry, but I have a bad feeling about tonight’s game. If the players think it’s over(and it really is) they won’t show up. Except for the last meeting between the 2 clubs, we really haven’t played well against them.
    But the truth is, I really don’t care anymore. Neither team is going to make the playoffs anyways!

  9. #9 Jack Twist says:
    March 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm


    Why you, two timing slut!!! You always told me that Stony Mountain was our special place. Don’t you remember our special times there, joshtm. You were wearing your Sidney Crosby jersey, and we sat under the moon, and made fun of everything related to the Habs. Ohh, there was our rants where we got a hate on for Gainey, Carbo, Dandy and Boully, Ninnimaa, Souray, Huet, Abby, Halak, Koivu, Kovy, Sammy, and Johnson who apparently fell on the ice.

    But, we love Guillaume

  10. #10 Habs#1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    +/- means that the other team scores more on you then you do on them. Why do you think the Red Wings have a very large overall team+ rating while the Flyers have a very high – rating?

    And stop blaming Carbo damnit. It’s not always the coach’s fault you know. The PLAYERS on the team should shoulder more blame then him. Is it his fault that the goaltending sucks? Is it his fault that the team has no #1 centre? Is it his fault that the young guys are going through growing pains? If you think so you obviously know jack about hockey.

  11. #11 nigelski says:
    March 17, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    +/- is an important stat, like Habs#1 says, but it can be misleading as well. Not in the case of the top line or souray, though. Part of it can be attributed to the penalty kill factor, and some of it to just plain bad luck. Often, a poor line change causes a goal, and that’s not the fault of ALL the players who just stepped onto the ice.

    I agree that Carbo has gotten a bit rougher ride than he deserves– a bit. His line juggling gets on my nerves something bad on some nights. Players need to develop cohesiveness with their linemates, or nobody scores. Montreal is a tough place to coach for a former player, or anyone for that matter, and it hasn’t helped Carbo that Gainey has provided him with some guys who are, at best, a bad fit to the system they want to play.

    In the end, he’s gotta play the guys he has. I just wish he’d stumble onto some good combos, and keep them together. Off season moves will dictate the success/failure of Carbo as a coach, as I really don’t think Gainey will fire him until the end of next season, at the earliest. His picking of Carbo reflects too much on himself as GM, and we all know what a bang-up job he has done in that department.

  12. Wow Carolina 7-2 In Jersey.

  13. #13 nigelski says:
    March 17, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    Watched some of that game, up til it was 4-0 Carolina–Brodeur got pulled, and their whole team looked disinterested. Glad to see it’s not just the habs who look that way.

    By the way, the stiff they got working with Mike Emrick on the Devils broadcasts is just about the worst color guy ever. A stuttering, know-nothing, ‘tard of an excuse for a broadcaster. Didn’t catch buddy’s name, but I couldn’t listen to him any more, so I had to turn the game off. He makes the likes of Pierre Maguire and Glenn Healey sound wise and insightful in comparison, something I NEVER thought could happen.

  14. #14 Habs#1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Your telling me HB. That’s the inconsistency of Carolina, just like Montreal. They look like world beaters one minute then a trainwreck the next. But the win by Carolina was huge today. Kind of Reminds you of T-Bay(Stanley Cup champ one year and 8th place the next).

    And it’s Carbo’s first year of coaching. He’s going to make mistakes and learn from them. Take whoever you think is the best coach in the game today and the best there ever was(Bowman). They ALL made mistakes they’re first couple years. They need time to develop and grow as coach’s, just like players need time to develop.

  15. #15 nigelski says:
    March 17, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    Glad to see Hollweg isn’t going to press charges vs Simon. There is never a need for Police to get involved in NHL affairs, in my mind. I’m sick of the debate, personally. I also think Moore is wrong to sue Bertuzzi. Regardless of his future health, and ability to come back, I hope nobody gives that ambulance chaser another shot at the NHL. No doubt he’ll sue everyone whose jersey brushes him if he’s allowed to play again. I’m sick of his 3 years of whining, and just wish he’d go away.

  16. #16 nigelski says:
    March 17, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    Bowman was great. Nobody talks about it much anymore, but I truly loved how he put Fedorov on defence. He’s still a floater, but he learned all ha knows of the defensive side of hockey then. No chance it would work for Samsonov or Kovalev, more’s the pity.

  17. #17 Habs#1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 6:03 pm

    funny that you bring up Federov on defence because Hitchcock just did the same thing to him in Columbus.

  18. #18 LeBeau says:
    March 17, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    Come on Dalley, do you really hope Montreal loses big time tonight? Do you really want them to lose to the Maple Leafs? That’s the last thing I would want.

    The chances of seeing them in the post season certainly seem slim at this point, but for God’s sake, I don’t want to see a loss against the Leafs.

  19. #19 nigelski says:
    March 17, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    It would be nice to see these last 2 vs the Leafs(tonight and the reg season’s last matchup)be the reason they miss the playoffs, like last year. Even if we miss them too. My hatred for all things Maple Leaf is terrible to behold…if you’re a leaf fan. Being a leaf fan is a terrible way to rot your mind, worse than sniffing glue, or unauthorized- blow-torch/chainsaw-lobotomies. JUST SAY NO TO THE LEAFS!

  20. #20 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 6:55 pm

    Carbo is just an Idiot. And that is all that is to it period.

    I can’t recall this + / – crap back in the 70’s.

  21. #21 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    LeBeau :

    I don’t care who they loose to now that it’s over.

    I dislike the leafs as much as you do. I just don’t give a shit anymore. I’m fed up.

  22. #22 R habs 4 real says:
    March 17, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    I’m not saying everything is Carbo’s fault, but as far as the goalie situation, Carbo is just not thinking straight. He plays Abbyshit,EVEN THO HE CAN’T STOP A SHOT, BUT CONTINUES EVEN THO HE KNOWS THE HABS WILL LOSE WITH HIM IN THE NET! WHY DIDN’T THEY CALL UP LEIGHTON? HE CAN’T BE ANY WORSE THAN ABBYSHIT, PROBABLY BETTER. HALAK DOESN’T LOOK COMFORTABLE AND HASEN’T PERFORMED WELL. Why did they get Leighton if he’s not going to play? To rot in the AHL? we need him! And the line changing is ridiculous. Nobody knows from 1 game to the next, who their linemates will be. How will that help achieve chemistry? I could go on, but I won’t!
    Time will tell. If the habs get off to a bad start next season, and don’t recover, CARBO will be gone by Xmas!

  23. #23 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 7:12 pm

    Carbo should be gone by victoria day. 2007.

    I don’t see any tomatoe throwing yet.

  24. #24 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    CBC will hire any moron. They Hired Harry Neal. This man is an Idiot.

    Tonite when ever raycroft makes a save even from center ice it is a great save.
    Neal makes me sick. He has been fired from every job nhe has ever had.

  25. #25 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    Bob Cole makes me sick too. That should retire…………

  26. The season is NOT over yet, there’s still achance for the team to make the playoffs. But by boo-ing the team you’re not helping at all. The spectators can be a BIG part of a team, that’s why in European soccer they’re called the 12th player. Montrealers should be SUPPORTING the tea, especially in difficult times, not rant about them, call them names, boo and ask for riots! What kind of fans are you??? Going to a game should not be like going to the cinema, you should be part of the game, try to make your team win by chanting and poitive support, and you can’t do that by acting like morons and be negative. Watch an Italian or English soccer game on TV if you don’t know what I’m talking about. Visiting teams should be afraid of coming to Montreal not only because of the Habs but also because of the spectators. Free-agents should wanna sign with the Habs because of the full-support of the team by the spectators!! All this negativity is hurting the team, not only now but also in the future!

  27. #27 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    It’s about time Bouillon actually did something worthwhile instead of giving the puck away all the time, that was a great fight, although I can hear Don Cherry crap all over Bouillon over the visor…

    What the phoque? What the hell did Souray get a roughing for?

    I think Carbo should see with Bouilly in the box, the power play should be a plus cause he ain’t gonna be working with Dandy to give it away….

    “Halak has a strange stanch”…honestly Bob Cole!

    These Toronto types are such idiots!

    Geesus H Phoquen Chreist!!!!

    There Dandenault again, every time Montreal gets scored on he’s either giving the puck away or passing it away!

  28. #28 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 8:04 pm

    Dandenault and Bouillon must go! If Kovalev and Samsonov are cancer then hey, Dandenault and Bouillon are the friggen heart attack! I have never seen such a pathetic duo as that!

    At least Koivu was trying hard, mostly because he is pumped from having HNIC do a story about his foundation…geeze Sakku, does that mean cause no other millionaires give you money that you have to go out and get stupid penalties?

    We are in a real bind, we have no good goalies. We have pathetic defense and our offense answer is mighty mouse! What the hell kind of team is this? Then you got so called defensive expert Johnson, when he is not crawling or falling, or giving the puck away, just what did we get Johnson for?

  29. #29 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    Holy crap! You can really see that thousand yard stare in Kovalev’s eyes! He is playing on borrowed time. He probably knows his career is finished. Let’s hope he retires before he gets hurt badly.

    It looks like he is playing like his life depends on it, but more like he’s been told these are his last few games ever….

    Streit and Ninnima suck big time, then when you have the other pathetic line of Dandenault and Bouillon that is the kiss of death! But not tonite, Bouillon musta been warned, either play the goon or you are off the team…’s about time Montreal got a penalty that was not a stupid hooking penalty…and Koivu is definitely pumped though. Gee maybe we should ask HNIC to do a story on him every time they broadcast a Montreal game….

    Tucker is on Montreal’s shit list, it is good to see them hit him big time. If only to punish Bob Cole and Don Cherry!

  30. Well,here comes a Hab nemesis, the dreaded third period.Lafs are going to crank it up,I hope Halak’s got some lucky irish in him,he’s going to need it.This would be the perfect time for Kovalev to redeem himself for a crap year”Fat chance!” Higgy and Ryder,its your turn dudes,step it up!

  31. #31 OncEaHaB says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    “Bouillon gets in and makes a Dandy move….” Joshtm is gonna love that

  32. #32 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    Phoquen Ninnima! Toronto should just ask Bettman to change the rules, at this rate Dandenault, Bouillon and Ninnima would have the most assists in the NHL!

    Montreal got sucked in by Antropov! Souray shoulda dropped his gloves and dealt with Antropov! That is why we needed Laraques, but did Gainey get him? No. Did Gainey get a better back up goalie from Toronto? No.

    We are gonna get spooked by not doing anything during the trade deadline and get stuck signing maybe an even bigger mistake than Samsonov in the summer. Someone should force Gainey to take six months off beginning now, and then we’ll get business taken care of….

  33. #33 OncEaHaB says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Tucker is on the Hab Sh_t list… I’m not sorry he got a bloody nose after Sundin high-sticked Halak…

    The boys need to step it up for the rest of period… This is no time to sit back and play defensive hockey…


  34. #34 OncEaHaB says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Streit is a pilon…

  35. #35 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Montreal is not playing like they want to get into the playoffs. Streit is crap! And Ninnima shoulda been benched yet again. Honestly if Dandenault and Bouillon and Ninnima could get assists from giving the puck away, they would lead the league!

    Kubina has all by himself literally shut Montreal down. No one is paying Sundin back, he keeps on poking Halak!

  36. #36 OncEaHaB says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    Send bouily after him… then they would both be done…

  37. #37 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    Where the phoque is Bouillon and how come Antropov can outmuscle and blitz Halak? Or Dandenault? Having this combo all but invites the other team to come into Montreal’s zone and own it!

    Dandenault and Bouillon are playing their usual crappy selves.

    We need someone to shut down Antropov!

  38. #38 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    Alright the islanders lost. Now all Ryder needs to do is get that shot back! Montreal stands a chance!

  39. #39 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:53 pm



  40. #40 OncEaHaB says:
    March 17, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    K-tits!!!!! Nice goal buddy… And Halak, came HUGE tonight! A much needed point!!! CBC can laff the laffs all the way back to TO!!!!

  41. #41 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Do not forget Saku out Joshtm. The hardest working hab in Hockey town!

  42. WE HAVE A GOALIE , OH YEAH BABY,BRING ON Boston,Me thinks we playoff bound boy’s, ooooh yeahhhh!!!!!

  43. #43 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    You forget one thing, the habs were on their way to a sure seventh place finish to the season, but what did Sakku have to do? Go on a hooking penalty binge, over a twenty game period he single handedly took the habs from a fifth place spot down to where we are, basically fighting for a spot. That is the Sakku I remember, sure he won it for us tonite, but he lost it for us the second half of the season! Look it up in the stats buddy…..

    But hey, it was a hell of a game! The third period sucked big time, Montreal doesn’t know how to play a whole game!

  44. Hey Frank, did you like that you mofo, ha ha ha ha HA HA !!!

  45. #45 Dalley1 says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    Carbo just proved that he is truly an idiot.

    Kovalev faked a sickness. He was invisible tonight. And our Wonder coach Carbo puts that shit head in the shootout.

    That shows that he nas not got a clue.

  46. #46 nigelski says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    Where did the team go in the 3rd? A couple feeble tries in OT, this was a team playing for the shootout, since they went up 2-1. Don’t we want to get 2 pts, and have the leafs get none? That’s what winning in regulation would have done, denied the leafs a point. Don’t these guys realize that every point gained or not gained makes a difference in these playoff battles? If the leafs get in by one point, and we’re out, we can point to this terrible 3rd period as why.

    I think it was my imagination, but Kovalev actually looked like he was trying out there tonight. Wait, head is spinning from the beers…

    Kostitsyn looked speedy out there tonight, even threw a couple of hits. Hope he stays with the big team. Halak returned, and played well. If Aebischer was in, we’d have lost 8-2.

  47. What you call me willis? we won the game ,for real Dalley1 tabernac,for real !!!

  48. #48 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:21 pm


    Koivu – Top point getter for the Habs is not that bad of a stat either, best Shoot out Artist, and hardest working Hab! He’s the most Dynamic player with the puck… (Kovy would be if he did not hold it too long) Yet Koivu, if he had the size of Latendresse or Kovy, with his ability and vision would probably be a super star. Yes he’s taken a few dumb emotional penaties but beating the Leafs helps me overlook the fact that everyone has slumped along with him…

  49. Dalley1,don’t screw my mood of winning ,you crazy bearded Newfoundlander or I make you practice goalie with no jock strap for Souray,eh!

  50. #50 Joshtm says:
    March 17, 2007 at 10:25 pm

    Gainey needs to call up either Milroy or Grabby, or both of them. Even Chipchura. Antropov showed that Montreal is lacking. Nothing but respect to those who love little Saku, but hey he was outmuscled and basically shut down, granted he scored but hey, a shut down is a shut down. It made the game harder and cost Montreal a lead, a win, and gave Toronto a point.

    Hey Guy, Hamilton needs a coach, maybe you could do better in the minors, they are more forgiving of coaches who change lines as often as heck there are seconds in a minute…..

    Thanks to playing and keeping and not benching Dandenault and Bouillon we have lost a significant lead from post christmas, and not benching Sakku when he went on a hooking penalty binge, that is unoforgiveable….

    Maybe at least Carbo will get to keep a new record: the worst ever Habs coach!

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