Bob Gainey’s Contract Extended
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We are very happy that Bob Gainey has extended his association with the Montreal Canadiens leading to the franchise’s Centennial Year in 2009-10,” said team president Pierre Boivin. “Bob has put together a very strong hockey management team, and his leadership is a source of inspiration for our fans and all members of the Canadiens’ organization
What can you say? I think every fan will be happy with this news. Gainey’s changed the team around completely since taking over and even stepped behind the bench himself.
In a few years time this may be looked back upon as a move that changed the course of the Canadiens and returned them to the top of the NHL.
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- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
- Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
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July 24, 2006 at 4:37 pm
Best signing of the offseason. Glad to see that this great historic franchise will have Bob Gainey in charge for the next four years. Well done Habs!
July 24, 2006 at 5:09 pm
the habs are currently trying to aquire daniel brierre for ryder+riberio…
if that happens, we will win the division, and maybe conference next year!
July 24, 2006 at 5:17 pm
where do you get that from, habsfan?
btw, good to have Gainey around for next few years.
July 24, 2006 at 7:07 pm
We should not add Michael Ryder to any trade! After all, we’re trying to build uo your youth program and keep good young players. Never trade good players unless you can get one that’s better. Briere is not better than Ryder. Don’t do it Gainey! Maybe Aebischer and Ribeiro for Briere. Sign Perrault!
July 24, 2006 at 7:11 pm
Habsfans dream trade:)Gainey will try to market his goaltender first.Remember
Brierre is 5 mil a year. Just doesn’t make sence.All players are signed with Montreal…last thing you want to do is screw chemeistry of what is a very GOOD team.
July 24, 2006 at 8:10 pm
well put Dr. Phil, couldn’t have said it better… Too bad the cap isn’t 49 mill though
July 25, 2006 at 11:30 am
Jan Bulis is now a Vancouver Canuck. His agent say ‘Janny’ chose Vancouver because he wanted to get a starring role and to put up some bigger numbers as a purely offence player. Will the Habs miss this guy? Wasn’t he in Gainey’s dog house for part of last season and a healthy scratch on a couple of occasions?
More imporantly who will replace his 20 or so goals and play that two way game for us now that he is an official Canucklehead now?
M Square
July 25, 2006 at 12:01 pm
ffdd, i heard it on a buffalo news station…
briere is moving to either montreal, chicago or another city
buffalo cannot afford his salary, whereas montreal can
montreal has a lot of talent coming thru the system, A LOT, and gainey is thinking of moving some “potential” talent for some proven talent…which is smart…
after all, we have perezhogin to fill in for ryder, who is ready for the next step…
gainey should wait to trade abesher until the season starts, and a team starts to panic for a goalie, then the team will give up more for him
once said and done, i trust that gainey will have the habs in the top 3 in the east soon…
July 25, 2006 at 2:01 pm
niiiiice habsfan. I always thought it would be better to get Abby outta here quick, until you put it that way. Let em lose a couple 10-0 games and soon they will be offering their left nuts for Abeischer!
This kinda sucks because i used to be hopêful that Abby could bring someone good to montreal VIA trade. But now i get the feeling that he’s the last option on the list for teams who seek a goalie. After all, Legace is still out there (why won’t anyone sign this guy?!?!?) , and theres Toskala and Biron who want out. So i have a feeling Abby might be playing some games in Mtl until teams get more interested in him.
July 25, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Hey guys,
I just found a site that lists all the team salaries, and how much room they have left… Really cool…
It turns out there are a lot of teams with some salary cap left. The only teams worse than Montreal (which has 1,573,610 left) is NJ, and Tornoto.
7 teams have more than 10 mil left. 16 teams have at least 5 mil left.
oh yeah the site is: http://www.geocities.com/rmccleary97/capcounts_team.htm
July 25, 2006 at 6:24 pm
The next headline on this site should read:
Canadiens trade Ribeiro and Perezhogin for Briere.
July 25, 2006 at 7:48 pm
joey, giving those numbers you also have to take into account how many players teams have left to sign. like BUF has about $15M left but they also still have like 7 key players to sign (including their top line and their golie, i think). all said and done, i think that we’ll be okay when the season begins.
July 25, 2006 at 7:49 pm
ffdd, montreal would need to trade some people with a higher salary in order to afford briere
a possible trade could be:
Riberio + Ryder + Aebesher to Buffalo
Briere + 1st round draft pick in 2007 to Montreal
July 25, 2006 at 7:53 pm
btw…the league’s salary system is going down the tubes…
since havlat signed for 6 million per year, players have been getting way overpaid
eg: york from the islanders in making almost 3 million a year, and he is a 3rd line player! and gaborik is maybe a 4.5/5 million guy, not a 6.3 million
montreal is lucky to have a complete team signed that should be good
July 25, 2006 at 11:39 pm
How about this:
Ribeiro and Bonk for Briere. Trading Ribeiro and Bonk would clear over 4 million from our roll. We already have 1.5 million left before the cap. So we sign Briere for 5 million, and with the remaining 700K or so offer Yanic Perrault a deal (could even be a 2 year deal for 2 million, with 700k first season 1.3 next). With that we would be trading two centers and get 2 centers and still make the cap. It would be a decent upgrade overall and we wouldnt need to move Ryder or Aebisscher yet. Ryder is doing fine in the second line and Abby is definitely useful either on the team or as part of a future trade.
July 25, 2006 at 11:42 pm
I dont like the Ribeiro + Ryder + Aebischer trade possibility, it’s way too much. We would be sacrifizing too much depth, and it’s not like Briere is Joe Sakic.
July 26, 2006 at 3:13 am
And theres no way buffalo wants aebeischer, they have miller and biron… They are sitting pretty right now. Aebeischer wants a starting role and hes not going to find it in buffalo.
Where do you guys think Aebeischer will end up? I was hoping the wings but theres just too many good goalies for teams to choose from who need homes.
July 26, 2006 at 11:52 am
Aebeischer will be given a good chance to show his stuff.If he preforms as well as I think he can…he is the ace in hole that Gainey has.Part way through the season (if Heut playes well enough)Other teams will be clamering for a good starter and will trade to Montreal and the Habs will look to fill some deficiencies in their lineup.
July 26, 2006 at 11:52 am
Aebeischer will be given a good chance to show his stuff.If he preforms as well as I think he can…he is the ace in hole that Gainey has.Part way through the season (if Heut plays well enough)Other teams will be clamering for a good starter and will trade to Montreal and the Habs will look to fill some deficiencies in their lineup.
July 26, 2006 at 4:18 pm
I just heard on another website, a rumoured deal between San jose and Montreal, where Gainey has offered Perezhogin, and Markov for Patrick Marleau. I hope that isn’t true, because Markov was our best defenceman last year, and I would hate to see him go. Give up Ribeiro and Bonk and Perezhogin, but PLEASE DON’T TRADE MARKOV! We absolutely need him! I guess nobody wants Ribeiro. Can you blame them?
July 26, 2006 at 4:21 pm
That’s not true at all
July 26, 2006 at 5:36 pm
thats not true because i go onto other blog sites and i heard people saying ‘lets create a rumour’. So thats full of ****. People just make stuff up so that they have something to talk about. Gainey wont do anything too stupid guys dont worry
July 26, 2006 at 6:25 pm
Bringing Marleau would be great, it’s San Jose who would never make the deal.
July 28, 2006 at 10:13 am
Jesus you people! We have a GM already. Making up your own trade scenarios is fruitless, Gainey isn’t here reading this for ideas. Give your heads a shake! A Ryder and Ribeiro deal to Buffalo saves them no money at all. Why always assume other teams want players we no longer do. With such a media magnifying glass on the Habs, other teams opinions of our players are usually on the downside. Notice how it’s always been the Canadiens throwing in the extra player or pick into it. Buffalo would know that those guys can’t backcheck yesterdays laundry, and they are a puck pursuit based team. Give it up!
July 28, 2006 at 9:32 pm
so ryder/ribeiro/hayward for briere/hawerchuk is out of the question?
July 29, 2006 at 4:31 pm
How bout Samsonov, Huet, Kovalev ryder and koivu for Ron Hextall… lets bring him back to the game!
Im just posting because noone else does. Why call it a blog if noones bloggin. I for one will not stand by and watch this blog get 1 comment a week
July 29, 2006 at 6:05 pm
How about bringing in Samantha Fox as a motivator? The first star of each game gets a blowjob from her.
July 29, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Take this for what it’s worth:
Marleau in Montreal in a 3-way TRADE
There’s a rumors in Montreal that Marleau could be part in a 3 way trade with Capitals and Habs.
According to CHFANS.com the trade colud this:
to Washington : Radek Bonk, Curtis Brown, 2nd pick (MTL),2nd pick (SJ),*A conditional 1st rnd pick in 2008 from SJ if SJ sign Semin whitin season 2007-2008, if not 3rd pick SJ (2008)
to Montreal : Patrick Marleau, Shaone Morrisonn
to San Jose : Mike Ribeiro, Alexander Semin, Oskari Korpikari
It could happen in the next couple of hours or days.
July 30, 2006 at 6:13 am
LMFAO! C’mon, a blogsite will NEVER be a reliable trade source. If you follow Habs and have any brains you’d know Gainey doesn’t slip info to the media. GIVE IT UP! You make me embarrased to be a Habs fan. Again why do you imagine teams are wanting players we don’t want anymore.
July 30, 2006 at 9:36 am
Calm down reality check for us it is just a game…I believe what you say is correct.For some it is fun to predict.For me when the season starts I like some of the insighted commentary.
July 30, 2006 at 12:32 pm
Actually. I am calm – think about it!
July 30, 2006 at 4:28 pm
Hey reality check last time we checked this is a habsblog.
It’s for FUN not to be taken serious so calm down.
These are rumor’s from CHFANS.com not my predictions.
So if in any way your embarrased to be a Habs fan, go to Leafs.com in sure they’ll love you there.
July 30, 2006 at 7:22 pm
I’ve seen the same stupid BS here as Leafs fans show there. I’ve followed the team since 71 and never seen BS like this blog. I thought there would be a little more knowledge here but I’m way wrong. I’m as enlightened as I need to be, but you guys think because you’re in a blog, you’re suddenly the Habs media outlet to the world…and you talk about me getting too serious. Look at your self first. Half of you can’t even spell let alone think for yourselves.
July 30, 2006 at 8:00 pm
Easy guys we are all on the same side here.As far as rumours go, we might as well put them all to rest because gainey never lets anything slip out.Marleu is not comming and neither is breire.No need for personal attacks guys lets keep this site clean
July 31, 2006 at 12:36 am
So the forwards line up could look like this:
Samsonov – Ribeiro – Kovalev
Higgins – Koivu – Ryder
Plekanec – Bonk – Johnson
Murray – Begin – Downey
With another few players like Perezhogin, Chipchura, Grabovsky and Kostitsyn hoping to get a spot as well. Every line looks decent enough. The obvious biggest improvement would be to get a better first line center.
July 31, 2006 at 2:39 am
question… is line 1 the scoring line or is that line 2… isn’t line 3 checking? so what does that make line 4? Or does it even matter
July 31, 2006 at 4:05 am
That lineup looks like what we’ll be seeing alot of come October. Downey, Bonk, and Carbo’s first doghouse victim will pull straws to rotate the press box seats, making room for Perezhigin and whichever rookie grabs that last roster spot. One player right off the radar to make the team is D Alexei Yemelin. I’ve seen and heard a ton of good about this Rusky. He plays a very composed style, not unlike a young Markov when he first joined the team. He was taken 84th in 04 and Gainey and Trevor Timmins are real big on the guy. He is yet to be signed and they are tendering him a deal should he attend camp. they believe him to be very close. He is the candidate to eventually push Streit, Dandenault or River elsewhere.
July 31, 2006 at 10:08 am
Yo, Reality check!
Check your facts and your own spelling. I might be wrong, but the Togliatti based Lada Club in the Russian Super League has signed Alexei Emelin for the 2006-2007 season by tripling his salary with that team. Hard to imagine you will see him on the Habs next year…
July 31, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Rob, you are not wrong on either count, but there is some confusion. I often use the NHL Official Guide and Record Book as a source. In the 05-06 Edition, they have him listed as Yemelin (ye-Muh-lihn), but I’ve seen it as Emelin also in many places. I’m not 100% sure on this, but I think I’m leaning towards the former perhaps because I’ve seen it on his jersey, either at the WJC or an under 18 tourney. As far as contract matters go, you are correct again, but again there is another confusing issue. The international Ice Hockey Federation has an agreement with the NHL on contracts. It is similar in Canada with junior hockey where teams are reimbursed when players are drafted and signed. The compensation has always been a sticking point with the Russian based clubs, in short they feel they are cheated monitarily, The current IIHF deal involves all the Euro based teams in Finland, Slovakia, Sweden, etc. but none of the Russian ones. The last I heard is that a deal has yet to be worked out for the coming season for Russian based teams. It is still being negotiated and there should be news on that soon. As far as the players contracts go, they are not prevented from trying out or signing with NHL teams. As I stated, these clubs get paid when they lose players. It is not the same for North American players. Here, if a player remains unsigned two years after the entry draft, he can re-enter the draft. Nick Boyton, now of Phoenix, is the most common exammple I can think of. When teams draft players under the IIHF deal they retain the rights for a much longer period of time. For example, the Habs drafted a guy named Kim Staal ( no relation to the you-know-who brothers..I wish!) 92nd overall in 1996 and still own his NHL playing rights. Certain players however still feel a certain amount of loyalty and honour the deals, others don’t. In the case of Emelin/Yemelin, we’ll have to wait and see how it plays out. The fact that his team has tripled his salary attests to some point how good he is. thats good news for us Habs fans! BTW, do you have a link to where you recieved your info on him? I could use some catching up. Thanks.
July 31, 2006 at 1:18 pm
thanks for answering my question guys appreciate it
July 31, 2006 at 1:42 pm
so must for a possibly trading Aebeischer to detroit, the wings just signed hasek to a one year deal so they are taking a chance on him. NOBODY WANTS ABBY! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
July 31, 2006 at 2:52 pm
LOL, Sly no one answered the ? I’d say both the top two are scoring lines. Of course, if one line is not scoring on a particular night…then it becomes the other line!
July 31, 2006 at 3:56 pm
I don’t remember Bonk ever being in the doghouse after Gainey took over as coach (was he?). Plus, I think Charbo likes him and his responsible game.
July 31, 2006 at 4:26 pm
You’re right, he was never kennelled in Gainey’s time and he spent the first half of the season playing hurt. He can be strong defensively, but I fear Carbo may not take well to Bonks dips in intensity. Then again, if he’s not harsh on everybody, it could be a good thing!
July 31, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Hi Guys, I don`t want to catch a beating for posting this but here goes.
According to a Montreal radio station called the Team 990 and also reported by rumoursnhl.blogspot.com the San Jose Sharks and Montreal Canadiens may complete a deal soon for Marleu
I know PACTUM SERVA at what you are going to say that Bob Gainey would never let this slip out and I totally agree with you that the man is FORT KNOX…but if the guys from team 990 are reporting it, then there might be a glimmer of hope and truth to this, and its all in good fun.
I was planning on calling the radio station tomorrow and find out where they got there info from.
will keep you guys posted.
July 31, 2006 at 10:29 pm
You never know, after all whoever thought Joe Thornton would get traded?
With the new salary cap anything is possible, anything.
You wanna know something funny….
On my Xbox NHL 2K6 I went to trade Joe Thornton to San Jose to update my rosters and the computer out right rejected the trade. Even the Xbox is smarter than the Bruins management. I couldn’t stop laughing I friggin’ fell of my seat.
August 1, 2006 at 12:17 am
hahahahhahaa, thats hilarious…. ya dude totally call the radio station up so we can see where this rumour came from
August 1, 2006 at 6:46 am
lol team 990 has been wrong many times before.
August 1, 2006 at 9:48 am
Reality Check:
Although one has to wonder if there is any cap room left, I too think that there is a small possibility that Emelin might sign with the Canadiens next year. Malkin, for example, has also signed a contract with a Russian Superleague club next year, but has clearly indicated that he wants to play with Pittsburgh in the NHL next fall so I suspect that these young Russian guys are feeling a lot of pressure to sign with their Russian teams before they are being allowed to explore their options in the NHL. Hopefully, the politics/money (that you have alluded to) will get sorted out before next season. I understand that Tretiak is actually one of of the key figures in trying to sort out this problem which is fitting since Tretiak was deprived of his chance to play for the Montreal Canadiens (the team that he wanted to play in the NHL for and who owned his rights) by politics in the 1970s.
I don’t really understand why Emelin would want to stay in the Russian Superleague next year if he was given the chance to leave. In the quarterfinals last season, he was accused of perpetrating the “worst incident” to ever take “place in the history of the Russian Superleague.” He was accused of dislocating a vertebrae and giving a concussion to the Magnitogorsk Metallurg captain, Evgeni Varlamov, when he pushed him. He was suspended and became infamous throughout Russia for the incident (kind of like Russia’s own, Todd Bertuzzi.) The only difference was that the Captain’s injuries seem to have been an overstated fraud, and Varlamov (unlike Steve Moore) was playing the following week while Emelin was suspended.
Emelin will give the Habs another hard-nosed, stay at home defenceman, and appears to have a bright career ahead of him. I think Jancevski (D) is going to be good too… In a year or two, these will be the names that we are talking about, and Souray (staying or going) will be meaningless.
PS. Most of the press from Russia that I have seen calls him Alexei Emelin although I too have seen it spelt both ways.
August 1, 2006 at 3:05 pm
The Emelin/Yemelin thing is because the Russian E is pronounced “Ye” at the beginning of words and syllables. One is a transliteration; the other is a transcription, and either is technically correct, as far as I know.