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Brisebois Back?

  1. #1 Yaeh says:
    July 28, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    700K yeah, we got people in the minors earning more. Thats where they will send him if he blunders too much. Teach the kids and stuff. Otherwise, I guess its a little bit of depth.

  2. #2 habs4ever says:
    July 28, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    breezer is on his way back, because Bob is moving dandy out in a deal to SJ

  3. #3 Lucky says:
    July 28, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    I agree with you Habs4ever….something is going down.

  4. #4 Avatar37 says:
    July 28, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    Oh god… Just when you thought Breezeby was gone… like a bad penny, there’s a risk he’ll show up again. It was bad enough when they got Traverse back, thank god they traded him away… but I don’t think anyone is going to want to trade for Brisebois… We’d be better off just bringing up some young blood from Hamilton…

  5. #5 stevejur says:
    July 28, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    Teach the kids Yaeh ?? Do you really want Breezeby teaching the kids ?? Are you normal ??
    What’s he gonna teach them ? How to create more turnovers ? Bob is nuts!

  6. #6 Jack Tornton says:
    July 28, 2007 at 8:14 pm

    I see this acquisition happening for several reasons. We, as a VERY YOUNG…and talented team, need some experienced players regardless of their position in the roster. Brisebois can brng this experience and teach it to the youngins.

    Moreover, Brisebois may want to finish his career where he started it. Hopefully, retiring with the blue-blanc-rouge after lifting a lord stanley in his last year with Habs!

    Furthermore, a deal might be oi the works sending a couple of defensemen to a team and then we would need to bring some new blood from our farm team. As the youngters make their debut in the big league, Brisebois’ experience would serve as a postive element to their future career with the team.

    After all, he isn’t that old—> He’s 36 years old. (That’s pretty damn young compared to Shneider and his huge contract !)

    C’mon Bob show us what you’ve been working on all summer!

  7. OK,now I’m totally disalusioned!WTFIWW Gainey? YOU HAVE LOST IT MAN!STEP DOWN!

  8. #8 Avatar37 says:
    July 29, 2007 at 1:16 am

    Well, I wouldn’t go so far as to call for Gainey to step down… I really think he’s the best GM that we’ve had since I don’t know when… but Brisebois? Then again, that’s what I thought when he picked up Traverse, but he turned around and traded Traverse for Biron so … maybe there’s some ulterior motive that we’re not aware of going on right now… it can’t be because he seriously wants to see him back with our club… I know I don’t.

  9. #9 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 29, 2007 at 8:29 am

    Bringing brisbois means that we have a few extra d-men.Theres got to be more to this than meets the eye.A trade maybe? I dont think the offer to brisbois is as bad as many think.He wont have the presure of being our top defenceman as he was before.(looking back in retrospect thats really sad lol.)Having said all that the one thing that i dont understand about gainey is that when he was asked if he was done with signing ufa’s he said he was done in not so many words and that the strength of the club would come from within.I do believe a rookie could have made the jump instead but what do i know lol.This offer has made everyone a little confused including myself.Just where is gainey going with this remains to be seen.

  10. #10 koivufan says:
    July 29, 2007 at 9:42 am

    i believe there is a trade brewing. perhaps he could be replacing a dandenault or a bouillon. if we brought brisebois back it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world it’s only a 1-year contract at $700,000 and i think he would fit in good as a sixth defenceman playing 10-15 minutes a game

  11. #11 hab-dab-a-do-nothing all spring says:
    July 29, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Ryder just signed a one year deal with the habs, Thats good news

  12. #12 habsfanforever says:
    July 29, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    You got to look at his +- He is a +5 for his total and in his last year with the habs he was a +17 (not bad for the whipping boy of montreal)Ok,no he is not a #1 def. but he will not be brought in for that. He will be in(if it happens)for depth and exsperiance. Or as some have said for a trade situation.Ever think that if we trade some players(D-MEN) and sign D.Markov then Brisebois will be there to eat up some min. if the young guys that will make the team falter.They have a bad game you can take them out (sit them for a few) and you have a decent replacement or if one gets injured. And at 700,000 I would wellcome it

  13. #13 Jack says:
    July 29, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    Of course the question is whether BreezeBy accepts such a bargain basement salary? If he does come back, as koivufan said, playing 10-15, half of which on the power play, might not be such a bad use of an experienced defenceman. In fact, as the #5 or 6 defenseman playing the second power play shift, he may actually be very helpful, post-Souray. The fact that he’s francophone will take some of the heat off Latendresse (and Gainey, for that matter).

    I also agree there must be a trade brewing. Carbo and Gainey must want to give a couple of young guys their shot. So, if BB returns, I guess Dandy is gone. IF that’s the trade, Dandy for whatever, it’s not even close to the blockbuster people are looking for. I’d guess a 2nd or more likely 3rd round pick.

    Bouillon gets a hard time, but everyone forgets he had half a year off last season due to his foot injury. When he came back, he was obviously not in top form: but the previous season he was inspirational. I think this year he’ll return and fit in very well, maybe paired with Hamrlik… probably have a great season.

    Very happy that Ryder is signed (AGAIN for only a year… what’s with that?). I thought last year, despite the 30 goals, he was horrible. He scored in spurts, and rarely when it made a difference; on the first line he was often a waste of space… it was Higgy and Koivu carrying the load. He needs to show us what he’s really got this season.

  14. Brisebrois is probably coming back becasue It’s almost tyhe end of his career and It’s obvious his favorite team is the montreal Canadiens. he’s 36 yrs old and this could possibly his last season(if its a 1 year contract.) he spent pretty much his whole career with us. I know it’s more wasted money, but hey, 0.700 million is not that bad. He could trade another one of our D in the future.

  15. #15 Avatar37 says:
    July 29, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Yeah, I’d have liked to see Ryder signed for more than 1 year, but keep in mind, maybe it’s his agent or his request to go year by year? I don’t know how many more years until he’s an UFA, but it could be that’s what they’re aiming for… I think it would be helpful to understanding the GM’s job and his decisions if it was made public not only the final agreement but what the player was *asking* for… because as things stand all the blame always seems to land in the GM’s lap and we have no idea what his options were.

    I agree that Ryder didn’t seem to show up much last year (or at least as much as during his first year) and yet he was the only 30 goal scorer on our team… Playing in the same system that Kovalev got what, 18 goals? lol … the only thing I’d like to see more is him going to the slot, but … keep up the good work Ryder and keep scoring, lord knows no one else seems to much.

  16. #16 mysteryfan says:
    July 29, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    Hello all! Longtime no type!!! I have been on a well deserved holiday!! I’ m back!!!

    I was talking to Francois, a buddy of mine in Montreal. He said there is a reason for bringing back Brisebois and for the 1 year contract to Ryder. A trade with SJ……Dandenault, Ryder, and a 1st round pick for Marleau.

    That wouldn’t be so bad eh?

    Let’s see if it actually happens!!!!

  17. #17 habsfanforever says:
    July 29, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    With Ryder signed we still have around 6-7 mill. So a trade for Marleau and sign him to an extention is looking very good. In this San jose gets Ryder for less money and can resign him to an extention for less then Marleau.We could give him 6 MILL NEXT YEAR and still have lots of cap space for the rest of the players we would like to have….

  18. #18 johnnyhab says:
    July 29, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    Just wait and see Ryder and dandy to san jose

  19. do u wan’t ryder gone!!!- Dandenault- yes I like him, but his days as a hab are done!!! Ryder is a great player.

  20. #20 Avatar37 says:
    July 29, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    Ryder for $2.95 mil… I think that’s a great deal, considering some of the contracts that were thrown around… Ryder is one of the better young players we have, I hope we don’t trade him.

  21. #21 coutNY says:
    July 30, 2007 at 10:58 am

    San Jose was in the market for a young Dman, and they picked Alexei Semenov Friday; Not a earth shattering move but a young big Dman and about as good as I think we could have offered besides our top prospects… I think they’ll start the season and see how thinks workout with Marleau before they make any decision to trade.

    In other news, It looks like we made Adam Proteau’s ~ The Hockey News list of 2007-08 UFA’s that won’t payoff… at number 5 as a good non signing and 3 as a bad signing;

  22. #22 habs4ever says:
    July 30, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    xhabsfan, yur always crying about needing more french bums. Now Gainey offers a contract to one and you cry about it? Quebec the Francophone province deserves breezer.. hahaha..

    In Bob we trust!!!!!!!

  23. habs4never,why do you have to be such a dits? If you don’t know how to connect the dots boy,why is that any body’s fault but you?Take some responsibility in your life man and have accountability!!!Don’t you owe yourself that much?Man some leafs people,geeze?Man you are so Toronto Blue it looks like you were blowing Smurfs,lol.Hey genius,did you ever hear the saying “When in Rome do as the Romans”or is that to hard for you to process?Don’t know anything bout business man? Did you know there would still be a N.B.A. basketball team in Vancouver if the former team “Grizzly’s”would of pick Steve Nash of Victoria.I guess not cause it’s all about you,eh!The thing that really PISSES ME OFF IS the way you and others put words in mine and others to try to look impressive,man I hope you don’t have kids!lol

  24. #24 habs4ever says:
    July 31, 2007 at 8:52 am

    Do you see the leaf fans crying for all ontario born players. Fact is french Quebec is snobby and they think they’re shit don’t don’t stink. They contribute all past success to french canadians and say we need french superstars now. What a joke? Hopefully breezer is the guy you were looking for.. HAHAHA Another soft french canadian.

  25. #25 habsfan_for_life1212 says:
    July 31, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    Latendresse – Koivu – Kovalev
    Higgins – Plekanec – Ryder
    KOstitsyn – Smolinski – Lahti
    Chipchura/locke – Lapierre – Kostopoulos

    Komisarek – Markov
    Hamrlik – O’byrne
    Bouillon – Brisebois

    (Price by the end of the season)

  26. #26 Xhabsfan says:
    July 31, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Blah BLah BLah

  27. Question:How many ontairo born players on the Laff’s?

  28. #28 BC Genius says:
    August 1, 2007 at 1:35 am

    Gainey is patient, Les Boyz. No cause for concern just yet. Let the pre season take hold. Gainey has got his finger on the button – if a trade is needed, voila. It will happen – like last year when Ribsy was sent to the Lone Star State. Have faith – pray to Lord Hab and all will be fine. No go BBQ a burger – extra cheese!!!

  29. #29 habs4ever says:
    August 1, 2007 at 8:16 am

    They have a few, but Question. How many BC natives does Vancouver have, or how many AB does Edmonton have. There is more players born in Ont, hence why the leafs have some, just about every team does. Raycroft was picked outta desperation, not because he’s from Ont, mark bell was just aquired for similiar reasons, your argument is bs to say the least.

    This isn’t the “Quebec” Nordiques, this is “Montreal” Canadians, big difference.

  30. #30 newfi canadiens says:
    August 1, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    i think ryder is ready 2 go 2 the sharks on the account of his good freind clowe

  31. #31 Habs#1 says:
    August 1, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    Everyone enjoy Ryder for the last time this year. He’s a traded man walking.

  32. #32 habs4ever says:
    August 1, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    I disagree he’s being traded, a one year deal only hurts his value, why would a team want an impending UFA, if gainey signed him to a 3 year deal, he would be easier to move and have higher value, ths one yr deal depreciates his value. i think hes staying.

  33. #33 koivufan says:
    August 1, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    i sure hope ur right habs4ever!!!!!!!!!

  34. #34 habs4ever says:
    August 1, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    People gotta stop listening to eklund, all this marleau hype was generated by him. He makes up habs rumours to attract habs fans, like he does the leafs, oilers and any other hockey market, rarely is his blog titled columbus rumours, the guys a fraud and Michael Ryder is staying put.

  35. #35 coutNY_HabsFan says:
    August 1, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    Pertaining to Brisebois; RDS reporting Meehan has sent a counter offer and the “ball is now in Gainey’s court…”

  36. #36 newfi canadiens says:
    August 2, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    i have a question for anyone. u think its best 2 leave the team as it is, 2 develop the younger players.

  37. #37 Rubberman says:
    August 2, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    When trying to sign a big name free agent, couldn’t Gainey tell the player I’ll give you the maximum salairy for every year you sign (e.g 4 yrs or 5). So, if the max is 8 million this yr, 9 next, 9.5 after that… Wouldn’t that encourage a player like Lecavalier to sign.
    On another note, I couldn’t fathom making millions per yr…

  38. #38 coutNY says:
    August 3, 2007 at 9:06 am

    Rubberman ~ I am not sure money is the whole issue for the most part… In this years UFA market, we could have offered upward of $10 million with the new salary cap at $50… That sort contract$$$ is and should be reserved for the elite few franchise players in the league… none of which were available in this years UFA pool.

    Gainey offered Briere and Smyth more money than they settled for with their new respective teams for whatever reasons. Those guys are good players but not franchise players. If we want a franchise player like Lecavalier our team will have to prove we’re a worthy top level team. The team needs a winning appeal to sell a player on it’s club. Nobody wants to come into a situation where they’re deemed the savor of an organization because it sets them up for failure. ESPECAILLY MONTREAL…

    Another issue every team faces is most Franchise players usually stay within an organization because their repective teams do everything their power to sign them a year prior to FA status. Giving them long expensive contracts which almost guarantees they won’t see a FA market while in their prime. Tampa, however, offers a unique situation (disadvantage), in that, they have a franchise player, but they are also paying Richards franchise player money, along with St. Louis’s making a hefty pay check, with both locked up with No trade clauses making them very difficult to move. Lecavalier has 2 years less on his contract and has no TRADE CLAUSE provisions in place. Another further disadvantage team is that Tampa has inacted a salary CAP lower than the league at around $44 million. This will make it nearly impossible for #1 to resign Lecavalier and #2 pick up the necessary tools to make the team better… (#1 Goalie comes to mind and some Defense support wouldn’t hurt either).

    Montreal’s advantage is that Lecavalier is from Montreal. He knows the history, the hockey culture, and the status being successful on the most storied franchise in hockey. Gainey has to sell this point. He needs to emphasize that in order to becaome a LEGEND he must come to a place were LEGENDS are born. Somehow he has to make this point more important than money because Montreal is at a slight tax disadvantage than everywhere else.

    Lecavalier is our best opportunity to acquire a star player in my opinion. Gainey is waiting for the chance and hopefully he can pounce on it when it arises. These rarely happen, but waiting patiently…with money in hand, Gainey is lurking for this deal to home bring home the cup and cement his status in history.

  39. Some of the stuff that Gainey has done are really bad. Think of the big salaries he gave Brisebois (over 4 million a year), and Theodore (over 5.5 M per year), when a lot of people knew that these players were bad. Then came trading Ribeiro for Niniima.. which didnt quite work out well. Now he’s given Hamrlik a superstar salary. It is curious how he manages to overpay a few players quite a lot and also manages to underpay other players.
    Id give him one more year. If we dont make the playoffs this year he should be gone along with Charbonneau. If the team doesnt improve dramatically by next year, he should also be gone.

  40. #40 coutNY says:
    August 3, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    YUP – In all due respect, Gainey was not GM when Brisebois and Theo received their contracts and he traded Theo to releave us of his burden. Theo was one of the best goalies the year prior to recieving the contract and Gainey still went after Price his first year as GM. As for Brisbois, he let go to Colorado to recieve the his next payday once his contract expired.

    Look at Riberio’s replacement, Pleckanics, who has done his job better at about half the price with twice the attitude improvement. Nimiina was aquired because of injury needs when Bouillon when down.

    Time will tell what direction the CH will take… Gainey doing just fine.

  41. #41 the_ewok says:
    August 4, 2007 at 4:30 am

    Brisebois is back!!!- not many people have the cohones that he does comming back to Montreal – even after all the heat he got – – far and few people could do what he just did – I just gained new respect for the briser !!! a real winner and a true Montreal Canadien – with all the pressure in Montreal and BS – hats off 2 Brisebois ! go habs go ! Brisebois is now a true leader in the Montreal dressing move ! Simply fantastic – all whom doubt in him now are delusional — and have a couple of marbles missing especially for the price we got him 4 – he’s no loger the 4.2 million dolllar man but a true Montreal champion – his decision will bring a cup back 2 montreal , he will and everybody in 1 year will have to thank brisebois – nrver thought I would have said this but he made it happen! Time will show the pessimist all wrong! Simply fantastic!

  42. #42 Donnie says:
    August 22, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Dandy and Ryder for Marleau? Doesn’t seem like a bad thing, but can Marleau perform in Montreal is what you gotta ask yourself….Ryder has proved he can. So is this an ingenius move if it happens, or just another case like Lecaire where the powers that be shoot themselves in the foot again.

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