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The Habs are in the Big Apple tonight to take on the Rangers. A win tonight would give the Canadiens a very respectable 9 points of out 12 on their 6 game road trip.
More impressive is the Habs tally of 10 goals in their past 2 games.
The Rangers are plaing back to back coming off a 6-1 thrashing of the Maple Leafs.
Cristobal Huet gets the start again between the pipes.
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- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
- Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
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December 30, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Well i get a kick out you guys that want kovalev,koivu and huet gone.I must be on acid or watching a different montreal canadiens hockey team because when we play good its normally those guys who make it happen,wether its drawing a penalty,making a nice play or making a nice save, these guys are worth more than one power foward,if we did that we would end up lookin like tampa or washington a bottom ranked team depending on the player not the team.
December 30, 2007 at 2:30 pm
I have to agree with habsofthefuture. One look at Atlanta, Washington, Tampa, or even Pittsburgh will show you that spending too much money signing a big name will get your team nowhere fast. Gainey gets a lot of criticism, some of it deservedly so, but he’s being smart about building a team of young committed talented and passionate players who want to stay here. Look at the Stanley Cup winners for the last 10 years. There’s an obvious recipe for success that emerges.
1/ Solid goaltending
2/ A couple of marquee talents, but no real superstars
3/ A solid group of utility players who will play their hearts out and put their bodies on the line in exchange for ice time.
The Habs are closer than most people think to having all the right pieces for a serious playoff run. By serious I mean not just making the playoffs in 7 or 8th spot and dying out in the 1st or 2nd round. We just need maybe 1 power forward.
1 tough guy who can play hockey wouldn’t hurt either. I’m tired of seeing our players mugged on the ice and Komisarek being the only one that can say anything about it with his fists. That’s not his role to play, he’s a big kid but he’s gonna get really hurt and we can’t afford to lose a star defenceman.
GO HABS GO
December 30, 2007 at 4:13 pm
anyone know why Corey Locke was called up today? Chipchura is in to cover for Streit who had to move back to D to cover for yesterdays injury to O’Byrn ( spelling?)
December 30, 2007 at 5:03 pm
I just read about Locke, I have no idea though. Good analysis by bbr 4ever; the Habs have done it before with no major superstars. You never know, maybe we’ll surprise some people this spring!
December 30, 2007 at 6:08 pm
hABSOFTHEFUTURE,the reasons I mentioned Kovelev ,Ryder and Huet are simple: 1) Kovalev is having a very good year,but not so good last year.Anywho,he’s got a new contract coming to him and he ain’t getting youger,so…..2)Ryder ??????????? who cares!3)Huet’s stock has gone up nicly in a N.h.l. with a good goalie shortage and we already have two very good up and comers in Price and Halak ,neither who I would like to see traded (AND with Halak rumored to be asking for a trade)whats a G.M. to do?Plus again new contract are in store for Huet and Ryder,so how much more are they asking???Anyone think less??? NOT I SAY’S ME.
December 30, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Maybe koivu’s out for locke???????????????????????????
December 30, 2007 at 8:35 pm
yep,Koivu is gone and Kovalev is wearing the C for today.
December 30, 2007 at 9:39 pm
It’s funny, Locke couldn’t make it to the game.lol
December 30, 2007 at 10:36 pm
WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPEND TO THE GAME????????????????????????????????????????????
December 30, 2007 at 10:39 pm
How do you spell an overtime or shoutout loss? HUET IN GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you can into a defensive style play for the entire 3rd period and expect to win????????????
The habs tried to protect ONLY A 1 GOAL LEAD and played NOT to lose, instead of trying to win! They just never learn their lesson. every time they try and protect a lead, THEY LOSE!
December 30, 2007 at 10:46 pm
The Habs and Huet can not and will not win no more than 2 games in a row for the rest of the year.
Habs Please prove me wrong……..I dare you…..
December 30, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Even though Shanahan was given a gift breakaway by Souray,I mean Hamerlicker,when nearing Huet…did Huet even move?Me thinks Huet’s getting tired again and I aways get that feeling when he looks like a picture of himself ,froozen in net with those deer in your headlite’s look.
December 30, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Relax all of the above. Hamerlicker? Souray? You’re actually gonna bash our best defenceman? As for Huet, not a great goal, but he’s our best goalie right now and the reason we just won tow in a row. Look at the shots against and hi #1 save % in the league. Stop acting like the sky os falling after every loss. 8pts outta 12 on the road is pretty effin good so chill out chicken littles.
December 30, 2007 at 11:51 pm
Dancan81,it wasn’t Ryder that cost us the game it was Hammer,and Huet fell apart and it’s not his first time.Huet is no Brodure or Loungo,he’s a little above average that it thats all,and did I mention he can be a REAL CHOKE ARTIST!
December 31, 2007 at 12:30 am
this was a good road outing. Probably didn’t cash in on some opportunities that they have in the Florida area. And unfortunate that Huet didn’t respond maybe he was caught off guard by his team leaving Shanahan all alone. I would have liked to see him challenge but what can we do?? The part that the team played not to lose really upsets me and like usual they do lose/collapse. So mine as well go for the throat and try to win the game handedly.
Contracts for both Kovalev & Ryder….I would think that they are better to trade them than to resign both. Are they here for any longer time?? Do they make a dent in the future plans? I can’t see that and will Gainey. This is the time for a blockbuster trade. Shop them now, if they haven’t already.
Still a good effort but can’t play this way against Detroit, Anaheim, New Jersey, Ottawa, San Jose…The intensity and finishing off of goal opportunities is their achilles heel. Let’s go!! Gotta pick it up!! Go Habs Go!
December 31, 2007 at 12:38 am
Bottom line: this team always tries to protect a lead, rather than be aggressive, and try to win. THEY CONSTANTLY TRY NOT TO LOSE, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO WIN! And that’s not something that comes with age or experience. It’s the coach’s fault! When you don’t play 60 minutes, you don’t win!
December 31, 2007 at 1:26 pm
as long as Gainey is GM here, don’t expect a trade of any magnitude – EVER!
December 31, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Nothing to do with Gainey habs2010. All to do with the tax rate in Mtl and the media, bottom line peeps dont want to play there.
December 31, 2007 at 4:13 pm
we can’t get UFA’s here, but there’s no reason why Gainey can’t make a trade!
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December 31, 2007 at 6:05 pm
I don’t know about a trade…when we’re playing well we’re really on fire and some of our young guys (Higgins, Latendress, at al) have some serious potential. Ryder is a liability right now but the past couple of games have been a bit better for him. Kovalev is the only real superstar we have right now, watching him puckhandle his way around the ice to make those great plays gives me heart.
Koivu was out tonight too; I saw we take our eight road points, hope for better then usual at home, and call it a day. We’ve got a few days to prep for Thursday’s game so we’ll see what happens.
January 2, 2008 at 12:01 am
Kovalev is having a good year, he has one every time his contract is due up,
the he slides back into oblivion.
I hope Bob doens’t fall for that, get rid of him while has some trade value.
January 2, 2008 at 12:45 am
To get something we have to have bait….that means Kovalev, Koivu, Halak & I wouldn’t necessarily go there but Huet in combination. Of course, this would mean we get something solid in return. What that is sits on Bob Gainey’s desk. I still say Marleau for Ryder or some combination. Include some stiffs (Smolinski, Brisebois, Dandenault, Bouillon) and strike the deal. Tampa’s ripe for the picking…goalie troubles and flimsy attack versus aggressive forchecking teams. Got to get in their face. Let’s go… Go Habs Go!!
January 2, 2008 at 8:51 am
Kovalev is still under contract for the 2008-2009 season. His contract has nothing to do with the way he is playing now.
January 2, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I’m all for a good stomping of Tampa tomorrow with a good show from some of our second and third liners. Throw in Huet with a top forward (Kovalev, Koivu, Higgins, Plekanec – take your pick) and we get Vinny
January 2, 2008 at 8:00 pm
This blog is making me pissed off,why would anybody want to trade a allstar goalie and one of our top guys for Vinny.Wake up guys it is not going to happen and nor should it happen.Price isnt ready yet and dont come back and say his performance in New york shows why we should get rid of him because even giguere kiprosoff and luongo even have there bad nights but the truth is he is a number goalie with top stats.
Ps Iam starting to think some of you guys have little shrines of vinny in your room,lit up with candles.
January 2, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Don’t get me wrong…having a big centre (Lecavalier) or anyone else for that matter is the missing piece. But it has to be someone with heart the likes of Beliveau, Howe, Hull, Esposito, Dornhoefer etc. These guys would not hesitate for the benefit of the team. Of the big guys around today, which would be available (the list gets smaller). Besides he fits the French issue and could become a superstar/legend status if he should ever lead the Habs to taste the Champagne off of Lord Stanley.
Thornton, Selanne, Datsuyk, Cammaleri (missed this one), Cole, E. Staal, Ovechkin, Crosby (either of the last two would be grand) could fit in….
how to make that happen is all another matter.
So nothing against shrines per say the Habs shrine but not until a player becomes a Hab does he get that attention from me.
Let’s go after Tampa….get those points now!!! Go Habs Go!!
January 2, 2008 at 10:20 pm
wow, I sort of agree with you, but I actually don’t think Tampa would trade Vinnie for Huet and one of our forwards, because that would be retarded. He is one of the top 5 players in the world. Huet is good, but he’s going to be a UFA. What needs to be debated is what type of trade its should be. What if the status quo remains and in a couple of months the Habs are among the large glut of teams separated by 6 points, are they buyers or sellers? To land a big name player it will have to be a package deal (we have youth on our side), or we sell off Kovalev, Hamrilik, and/or Ryder. What would you do?
January 3, 2008 at 1:56 am
With the D they have in Tampa Huet wouldn’t last a week!