Buffalo’s Back
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After struggling at the beginning of the year the Buffalo Sabres are slowly starting to look like the Sabres of old. Well maybe not quite the Sabres of old, but a team with talent, a team capable of winning and a team that causes pain for the Canadiens.
The Sabres defeated Montreal a week ago and also put the league best Senators down 3-0 in the first period on their way to a 4-2 victory.
They are dangerous right now, and they just happen to be playing a back to back series against Montreal.
Two Divisional “4 point” games, a possible 8 point swing in the standings.
Should the Sabres find a way to beat the Canadiens twice that could slowly start them creeping back into the Division.
The Canadiens on the other hand, have a real chance to put them deep in the cellar while gaining on the Senators who have dropped 3 out of the last 4 games.
Carey Price gets the start tonight in Buffalo.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
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- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
- rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
- goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
- rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
- goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
- rocky : Its true, there is no honor in that. These guys have only known the ethic of giving it all to win every night. I do not want them to "tank", and they will never do that anyway. I do want them to lose though, as awful as it sounds.
- goalie : Roicky as a good point. We all want the Habs to get a really good draft pick. However, players, coaches etc. also have a keen desire to compete and win. That's why they're playing at the pro level. Thus we can only hope that the team plays some good games and let the chips fall where they may. After the disasterous season we've had let's not lower ourselves adn get involved in any dscussions about 'tanking' games.
- rocky : So long.
- Senet1 : Good discussion rocky, I have to step out for an hour, but may be back later.
- Senet1 : The only way this team comes back to a team with long term potential is to draft a game breaker. Even all the other bad teams have a Stamkos or a player like him. He have some good player so what we need is a Malkin that we can count on 80% of the time to win a game for us.
- rocky : I mean winning will only do them harm that is.
- rocky : It really hurts because my reflexes make me want to cheer like mad, but it will only hurt the team now.
- Senet1 : Yes I have mixed feeling when watching the game. Last night I say here we go again. with our record of shoot losses I did not expect to win that one. Yet I wanted to win real bad?????
- rocky : God, so horrible to sit and hope for losses, but here we are.
- Senet1 : Our problem is we play one out of every 4 games good and therefore, we play well enough to stay on the borderline of a top five pick. If we win three or four in a row we could take ourselves right out of the running.
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November 23, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Hopefully, this team will avenge last week’s poor effort against the sabres. Buffalo is
probably feeling pretty good with their win over the sens, (and rightly so). If we catch
them napping 4 points could be had this week-end.
Enjoy!
November 23, 2007 at 3:57 pm
I could go for a Buffalo Burger tonite.
Lets go Price get your first Shutout Kid..
Lets go Ryder score a couple, two or three goals and shut up those bahsers..
Lets go boys. Lets go.
November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Can anyone figure out why Buffalo has managed to beat two good teams in a week? They outplayed Ottawa, and they definitely outplayed Montreal a week ago. They have very little talent, and Lindy Ruff is honestly not that great of a coach. The only thing that I can think of is that Tim Connolly is setting up plays.
Even so, Ottawa couldn’t get past the neutral zone trap and get much going. I will be forced to watch the game on the Sabres station MSG, so I won’t get to here the great calling from RDS, but Go Habs! I’m sure they can pull one off and shut the Buffalo loud mouths up! (I live in Buffalo now, and Sabres fans are far more annoying than Leafs or Sens fans)
November 23, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Sabres fans more annoying than Ottawa fans?? Let alone Leafs fans??? Thats a strong statement..but I have no idea what Buffalo fans are truly like…I’m sure they’re walkin around with the tail between their legs theses days though with their record…I’m a Habs fan in Ottawa…and this rink has the worst atmosphere and location (WAYYYY out in Kanata); I’ve pretty well stopped going to games there…
Let’s have a huge game tonight Price!! This guy is our future for sure, I’ve decided he is the name to go on the back of my sweet new Habs RBK jersey I got this year!!
GO HABS GO!!!
November 23, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Hey jeff dont let buffalo fool you. They are still a very good team even without drury and breire.They are on a bit of a roll and should not be taken lightly. GO HABS GO
November 23, 2007 at 5:41 pm
I seem to remember that Ruff out-coached Carbonneau each game last year…
November 23, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Come on Habs!!!! I’m actually confident that the habs could win both of these games! AND THEN BEAT THE MAPLE CRAPS!
November 23, 2007 at 6:58 pm
How come when Huet loses a game by playing “well” but not “amazing” and we lose. vey idiot blames him and says he sucks…morons! then we he steals another game we had no business winning, like many we won over the last 2 years, no one says a word about him and Price
Why is price starting tonight????? This is exactly why Huet is not as consistent as we want him to be….what other teamhas a goalie with a g.aa of 2.00 and a sv prcentage of 9.37 and only starts him half the games????? what is wrong with carbo?
November 23, 2007 at 7:03 pm
P.S. Ryder is not coming up out his slump, just like Samsonov was never the same, just like Theodore was never the same…..Why? The fans, the media, people on here….you play one or 2 bad games to start the year and people grind you in to te ground until the pressure finishes you off….Good thing Roy got out in time to save his career.. I get Huet full marks being the amazing goalie he still is and every games he loses by one goal, even if he lets in 3 goals , he gets made the scapegoat…ridiculous
and we aren’t going anywhere long term with some “real” top offensive stars…at least one…..koivu has heart…kovalev is heartless and only plays when he feels like it…can’t count on a bum like that….who else do we have? higgins can’t do it all….get out your chequebook gainey or trade and make it happen…I think we are all pretty sick of the “no one wants to play here” routune…although we can understand why if you listen to the ignorant bashers
November 23, 2007 at 8:06 pm
y’know this talk about bashers….enough already…!!!
The way to fix that whole discussion is to give 100%. Sure we the fans will still be pissed if we lose but then it’ll be a management thing. Right now, it feels (don’t get me wrong, it’s a different team than last year’s), the Habs have been in all their games for the most part, like we have a better team but we aren’t all pulling in the same direction. Sort of like working on 3 cylinders at any one time yet we have 6 cylinders. The main key is the goaltending and on most night it’s been stellar. Knock it off with Huet, there was a time when we had Dryden & Larocque and the Canadiens had offensive power to boot and they were matched to provide great tandem. So here we are just at the brink….we know where this can go we’ve been there far too often. I just wish the team played a solid performance. Man to man take out a complete check, set each other up and shoooooooot! Y’know it’s about the third game later….y’know Kovalev has one good game and then he’s invisible for the next three. I think we might see him tonight. As far as Ryder goes we need to bring two guys with energy to open space and get him the puck. Of course he’s got to shoot on net when the opportunity presents itself. So can we win these two games – yes! Are we?, that depends on whether we work on three, four, or six cylinders. The reason Buffalo is progressively better is that they have speed and get under the other team’s skin and eventually they bang the puck in. So eliminate this by counter attacking none of this laid back dump out and watch them come back…ala Ottawa game. This is where Carbonneau needs to shake his head and motivate the guys to go after the other team and become the pests/shakers to cause errors and take advantage. Come on…let’s go….!!!
November 23, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Did anyone catch the pre-game on RDS? I caught the very end and I think they were talking about fighters? Anyone kind enough to summarize was Demers et al. were saying? Thanks
November 23, 2007 at 9:03 pm
@MR Big Time.
Let me describe a Sabres fan to you. You can never question their dedication, because they always think that their team is going to win the cup, regardless of how bad they are doing. And you can’t talk hockey with them because besides knowing a few superstars, they only know their team. They have no idea how other teams are doing. They don’t understand how the game is played they blame the fact that they haven’t won a cup in 37 years on “bad luck.” Unlike a Sens or Leafs fan you can’t talk hockey with them, because they think the NHL has only one team.
I’d rather live in Florida where at the people admit they know nothing about hockey
If you want to understand the over enthusiasm of Buffalo listen to the Sabres radio at NHL.com. Then imagine someone who doesn’t announce hockey for a living and knows less talking.
November 23, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Listless. At least they didn’t get rewarded with any points for that effort. They came around at the end, and would have one point if not for a terrible call, but they’ll play better tomorrow night.
Ryder and Latendresse need a few games in the minors to get their confidence back. It’s not punishment, but neither or them are playing with any confidence at all, and I think the slower space and a chance to throw some hits and score some goals would bring them back around for the rest of the year. As it stands, those two are wasting space on the ice and I’m sure that they know this: it’s not helping them to have to play one bad game after another.
Price looks good. Higgins might be hurt. And Plekanac is ripping it up.
November 23, 2007 at 11:19 pm
It was not the penalty that cost them this game. It was the Stupid *** D-men. 4 Habs D-men could not move one Buffalo player away from the net come on. The D-men were the blame for all goals.
Price did a great job again tonite only for the D-men to blow it for him.
The Habs from last year are back. Win one loose one. Win one loose one.
The habs will not put together a winning streak of no more than 2 games for the rest of the year. Mark my words. The 9th place team is back….
November 23, 2007 at 11:22 pm
11th place team!
November 23, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Ya I agree, we need some goal scorers that score ,fighters that can fight, and D men that can control the action or we will get cooked,sad but true……
November 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm
I remember how bad it was at the end of last year–this is not that team. And this team also has more depth, at least insofar as it actually has two lines that can compete in the NHL and a third line that does well as a checking line. The fourth line isn’t NHL caliber, and I don’t mean the line itself but rather the bottom 3 forwards on the team, but that can be fixed for next year. A few of the D had a tough night tonight, but the forward lines weren’t anything close to brilliant.
I realize that they probably can’t send Ryder to the minors, but Latendresse isn’t getting any better and in fact I’d say that he’s playing worse than he did last year (when he was quite good). Now that the winning streak is on hold, I hope they shake things up and fix some of the squeaky spots for the long run.
November 24, 2007 at 12:07 am
here’s an interesting stat: in the last 42 road games, dating back to last December, Koivu has only 1 goal! that tells you a little bit about our so called 1st line. It is not a 1st line. Until that issue is resolved, and we get a power forward with scoring ability to put on the 1st line, this broken record will continue.
In their last 10 games, the habs are 5 and 5. They’re playing only 500, win one, lose one scenario. Playing 500 the rest of the season, won’t get you into the playoffs, and this team, without changes, won’t get the job done. Reality is starting to set in. Sorry hab fans, but the smooth ride is about to get real bumpy.
November 24, 2007 at 12:10 am
We will see where this team is come the last game of the year………
It will not be pretty………… you can all bookmark my comment… Carbo could not teach a dog to sit. Gainey could not run a ***** house ………..
November 24, 2007 at 12:38 am
so what’s the answer? We all know Gainey won’t be fired, but if the habs fail to make the playoffs, Carbo is gone. He’s not a great coach, but let’s face it. Gainey didn’t give him much to work with. I think until players around the league want to play here, we’ll have this stalemate. It requires some aggressive action from the Gillett on down. Let’s see how it will play out.
November 24, 2007 at 12:53 am
Yes, we will see Dude…….
November 24, 2007 at 3:32 am
You know last year I was pretty hard on KOVALEV,it was frustrating to see the most dominating and talented hockey player be so mediocre.I am so corrected by the Kovalev this year,good on you man, you go dude. So what I am trying to say is ,for a guy that’s been around for a while , you still impress me dude,NOT EASY TO DO!!!!
November 24, 2007 at 1:22 pm
we just need a better supporting cast around him, then watch his stats elevate.
November 24, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Habs2bfan how many assists does koivu have in those 42 games? probably at least 35-40.
November 26, 2007 at 12:30 am
Saku has 3 goals in 12 road games this year… poor stat, but better than stated