Buffalo’s Back
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After struggling at the beginning of the year the Buffalo Sabres are slowly starting to look like the Sabres of old. Well maybe not quite the Sabres of old, but a team with talent, a team capable of winning and a team that causes pain for the Canadiens.
The Sabres defeated Montreal a week ago and also put the league best Senators down 3-0 in the first period on their way to a 4-2 victory.
They are dangerous right now, and they just happen to be playing a back to back series against Montreal.
Two Divisional “4 point” games, a possible 8 point swing in the standings.
Should the Sabres find a way to beat the Canadiens twice that could slowly start them creeping back into the Division.
The Canadiens on the other hand, have a real chance to put them deep in the cellar while gaining on the Senators who have dropped 3 out of the last 4 games.
Carey Price gets the start tonight in Buffalo.
- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
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November 23, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Hopefully, this team will avenge last week’s poor effort against the sabres. Buffalo is
probably feeling pretty good with their win over the sens, (and rightly so). If we catch
them napping 4 points could be had this week-end.
Enjoy!
November 23, 2007 at 3:57 pm
I could go for a Buffalo Burger tonite.
Lets go Price get your first Shutout Kid..
Lets go Ryder score a couple, two or three goals and shut up those bahsers..
Lets go boys. Lets go.
November 23, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Can anyone figure out why Buffalo has managed to beat two good teams in a week? They outplayed Ottawa, and they definitely outplayed Montreal a week ago. They have very little talent, and Lindy Ruff is honestly not that great of a coach. The only thing that I can think of is that Tim Connolly is setting up plays.
Even so, Ottawa couldn’t get past the neutral zone trap and get much going. I will be forced to watch the game on the Sabres station MSG, so I won’t get to here the great calling from RDS, but Go Habs! I’m sure they can pull one off and shut the Buffalo loud mouths up! (I live in Buffalo now, and Sabres fans are far more annoying than Leafs or Sens fans)
November 23, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Sabres fans more annoying than Ottawa fans?? Let alone Leafs fans??? Thats a strong statement..but I have no idea what Buffalo fans are truly like…I’m sure they’re walkin around with the tail between their legs theses days though with their record…I’m a Habs fan in Ottawa…and this rink has the worst atmosphere and location (WAYYYY out in Kanata); I’ve pretty well stopped going to games there…
Let’s have a huge game tonight Price!! This guy is our future for sure, I’ve decided he is the name to go on the back of my sweet new Habs RBK jersey I got this year!!
GO HABS GO!!!
November 23, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Hey jeff dont let buffalo fool you. They are still a very good team even without drury and breire.They are on a bit of a roll and should not be taken lightly. GO HABS GO
November 23, 2007 at 5:41 pm
I seem to remember that Ruff out-coached Carbonneau each game last year…
November 23, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Come on Habs!!!! I’m actually confident that the habs could win both of these games! AND THEN BEAT THE MAPLE CRAPS!
November 23, 2007 at 6:58 pm
How come when Huet loses a game by playing “well” but not “amazing” and we lose. vey idiot blames him and says he sucks…morons! then we he steals another game we had no business winning, like many we won over the last 2 years, no one says a word about him and Price
Why is price starting tonight????? This is exactly why Huet is not as consistent as we want him to be….what other teamhas a goalie with a g.aa of 2.00 and a sv prcentage of 9.37 and only starts him half the games????? what is wrong with carbo?
November 23, 2007 at 7:03 pm
P.S. Ryder is not coming up out his slump, just like Samsonov was never the same, just like Theodore was never the same…..Why? The fans, the media, people on here….you play one or 2 bad games to start the year and people grind you in to te ground until the pressure finishes you off….Good thing Roy got out in time to save his career.. I get Huet full marks being the amazing goalie he still is and every games he loses by one goal, even if he lets in 3 goals , he gets made the scapegoat…ridiculous
and we aren’t going anywhere long term with some “real” top offensive stars…at least one…..koivu has heart…kovalev is heartless and only plays when he feels like it…can’t count on a bum like that….who else do we have? higgins can’t do it all….get out your chequebook gainey or trade and make it happen…I think we are all pretty sick of the “no one wants to play here” routune…although we can understand why if you listen to the ignorant bashers
November 23, 2007 at 8:06 pm
y’know this talk about bashers….enough already…!!!
The way to fix that whole discussion is to give 100%. Sure we the fans will still be pissed if we lose but then it’ll be a management thing. Right now, it feels (don’t get me wrong, it’s a different team than last year’s), the Habs have been in all their games for the most part, like we have a better team but we aren’t all pulling in the same direction. Sort of like working on 3 cylinders at any one time yet we have 6 cylinders. The main key is the goaltending and on most night it’s been stellar. Knock it off with Huet, there was a time when we had Dryden & Larocque and the Canadiens had offensive power to boot and they were matched to provide great tandem. So here we are just at the brink….we know where this can go we’ve been there far too often. I just wish the team played a solid performance. Man to man take out a complete check, set each other up and shoooooooot! Y’know it’s about the third game later….y’know Kovalev has one good game and then he’s invisible for the next three. I think we might see him tonight. As far as Ryder goes we need to bring two guys with energy to open space and get him the puck. Of course he’s got to shoot on net when the opportunity presents itself. So can we win these two games – yes! Are we?, that depends on whether we work on three, four, or six cylinders. The reason Buffalo is progressively better is that they have speed and get under the other team’s skin and eventually they bang the puck in. So eliminate this by counter attacking none of this laid back dump out and watch them come back…ala Ottawa game. This is where Carbonneau needs to shake his head and motivate the guys to go after the other team and become the pests/shakers to cause errors and take advantage. Come on…let’s go….!!!
November 23, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Did anyone catch the pre-game on RDS? I caught the very end and I think they were talking about fighters? Anyone kind enough to summarize was Demers et al. were saying? Thanks
November 23, 2007 at 9:03 pm
@MR Big Time.
Let me describe a Sabres fan to you. You can never question their dedication, because they always think that their team is going to win the cup, regardless of how bad they are doing. And you can’t talk hockey with them because besides knowing a few superstars, they only know their team. They have no idea how other teams are doing. They don’t understand how the game is played they blame the fact that they haven’t won a cup in 37 years on “bad luck.” Unlike a Sens or Leafs fan you can’t talk hockey with them, because they think the NHL has only one team.
I’d rather live in Florida where at the people admit they know nothing about hockey
If you want to understand the over enthusiasm of Buffalo listen to the Sabres radio at NHL.com. Then imagine someone who doesn’t announce hockey for a living and knows less talking.
November 23, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Listless. At least they didn’t get rewarded with any points for that effort. They came around at the end, and would have one point if not for a terrible call, but they’ll play better tomorrow night.
Ryder and Latendresse need a few games in the minors to get their confidence back. It’s not punishment, but neither or them are playing with any confidence at all, and I think the slower space and a chance to throw some hits and score some goals would bring them back around for the rest of the year. As it stands, those two are wasting space on the ice and I’m sure that they know this: it’s not helping them to have to play one bad game after another.
Price looks good. Higgins might be hurt. And Plekanac is ripping it up.
November 23, 2007 at 11:19 pm
It was not the penalty that cost them this game. It was the Stupid *** D-men. 4 Habs D-men could not move one Buffalo player away from the net come on. The D-men were the blame for all goals.
Price did a great job again tonite only for the D-men to blow it for him.
The Habs from last year are back. Win one loose one. Win one loose one.
The habs will not put together a winning streak of no more than 2 games for the rest of the year. Mark my words. The 9th place team is back….
November 23, 2007 at 11:22 pm
11th place team!
November 23, 2007 at 11:33 pm
Ya I agree, we need some goal scorers that score ,fighters that can fight, and D men that can control the action or we will get cooked,sad but true……
November 23, 2007 at 11:58 pm
I remember how bad it was at the end of last year–this is not that team. And this team also has more depth, at least insofar as it actually has two lines that can compete in the NHL and a third line that does well as a checking line. The fourth line isn’t NHL caliber, and I don’t mean the line itself but rather the bottom 3 forwards on the team, but that can be fixed for next year. A few of the D had a tough night tonight, but the forward lines weren’t anything close to brilliant.
I realize that they probably can’t send Ryder to the minors, but Latendresse isn’t getting any better and in fact I’d say that he’s playing worse than he did last year (when he was quite good). Now that the winning streak is on hold, I hope they shake things up and fix some of the squeaky spots for the long run.
November 24, 2007 at 12:07 am
here’s an interesting stat: in the last 42 road games, dating back to last December, Koivu has only 1 goal! that tells you a little bit about our so called 1st line. It is not a 1st line. Until that issue is resolved, and we get a power forward with scoring ability to put on the 1st line, this broken record will continue.
In their last 10 games, the habs are 5 and 5. They’re playing only 500, win one, lose one scenario. Playing 500 the rest of the season, won’t get you into the playoffs, and this team, without changes, won’t get the job done. Reality is starting to set in. Sorry hab fans, but the smooth ride is about to get real bumpy.
November 24, 2007 at 12:10 am
We will see where this team is come the last game of the year………
It will not be pretty………… you can all bookmark my comment… Carbo could not teach a dog to sit. Gainey could not run a ***** house ………..
November 24, 2007 at 12:38 am
so what’s the answer? We all know Gainey won’t be fired, but if the habs fail to make the playoffs, Carbo is gone. He’s not a great coach, but let’s face it. Gainey didn’t give him much to work with. I think until players around the league want to play here, we’ll have this stalemate. It requires some aggressive action from the Gillett on down. Let’s see how it will play out.
November 24, 2007 at 12:53 am
Yes, we will see Dude…….
November 24, 2007 at 3:32 am
You know last year I was pretty hard on KOVALEV,it was frustrating to see the most dominating and talented hockey player be so mediocre.I am so corrected by the Kovalev this year,good on you man, you go dude. So what I am trying to say is ,for a guy that’s been around for a while , you still impress me dude,NOT EASY TO DO!!!!
November 24, 2007 at 1:22 pm
we just need a better supporting cast around him, then watch his stats elevate.
November 24, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Habs2bfan how many assists does koivu have in those 42 games? probably at least 35-40.
November 26, 2007 at 12:30 am
Saku has 3 goals in 12 road games this year… poor stat, but better than stated