Canadiens 07/08
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Final thoughts on the Canadiens 2007/2008 Season and playoff run….
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- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
- Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
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May 16, 2008 at 6:35 am
I wouldn’t trade Koivu, But I would trade Markov,Plekanec,Chipchura, Halak and a 1st rounder.
May 16, 2008 at 6:37 am
Grabovski instead of Chipchura.
May 18, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Vincent Lecavalier in Montreal = pipe dreams
How about focussing on what Gainey can actually accomplish in the off-season? For instance, Malone, Langkow, Laraque, Barnes (not big, but a real sparkplug), Ward, etc.
May 19, 2008 at 11:12 am
I made a video for some of the possible players that could come to montreal. just go to STUO11 if u would like to see it. and they’re talking about Lecavelier for next years trade deadline. If Tampa is 14th or something, they’ll be looking for prospects and the habs have too many good ones!
May 19, 2008 at 11:43 am
Stoll.
Hossa will likely remain in Pittsburgh after this season. And even if he was entertaining his options at the end of the season, I’m not so sure that he’s what the Habs need. Unless of course Gainey is willing to move some of his existing ‘skill’ in exchange for someone like Stoll or Malone (although I think that Malone will also remain in Pittsburgh – his home town).
May 19, 2008 at 11:51 am
As to Lecavalier, it’s being suggested that he might ask to be traded this summer… which is pure speculation of course. However, if he did ask, and his wish was granted, Montreal would have to compete with markets like New York and Detroit, which almost always seem to get what they’re after.
The way I see it: Lecavalier would have to want to be traded to Montreal and nowhere else, which he may.
May 19, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Does vinny have a no trade clause?
May 20, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Need to concentrate on players with grit, power, and scoring prowess.
Rolston, Gratton, and maybe an offer to an RFA.
May 20, 2008 at 3:09 pm
My prediction is chris gratton. But if it was me I would love to have Rolston!
May 20, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I hope the Red Wings kick Pittsburgh’s asses in the finals. As much as I would want a young, talented team like the Penguins to win the cup, I like the Original SIx teams and would love to see the Red Wings win their 4th Stanley Cup in 11 seasons. My prediction: Red Wings in 7!!
Ziman
May 21, 2008 at 10:50 am
Lecavalier does not have a no-trade clause in his contract.
The Penguins will be in tough against the Red Wings, their biggest challenge by far in these playoffs. But then, this is sports, so who knows.
May 22, 2008 at 6:21 am
Detroit in 5.
May 22, 2008 at 4:20 pm
pitts in 6
May 22, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Wings in 6.
May 23, 2008 at 1:35 pm
96 Joseph
Posted on May 13th, 2008 at 10:23 pm. About ‘Canadiens 07/08′.
The Silence of the Lambs
Hannibal Lecter: First principles, Troll. Simplicity. Read your NHL history. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What do they do, the Habs you worship?
Typical Flyer Troll: They get eliminated…
Hannibal Lecter: No. That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing they do? What needs do they serve by being eliminated?
Typical Flyer Troll: Anger, um, social rejection, and, huh, frustrations, sir…
Hannibal Lecter: No! They learn. That is their nature. And how do we begin to learn, Troll? Do we seek out things to improve upon? Make an effort to answer now.
Typical Flyer Troll: No. We just…
Hannibal Lecter: No. We begin by learning what we’re lacking. We begin by learning our weaknesses. And the Habs have learned which pieces are missing from their puzzle. They will acquire those pieces and win their 25th Stanley Cup in the next season. Their 100th season, Troll. Meanwhile, your Flyers are merely lambs sent to slaughter, year after year. Lambs being silenced. Much like you.
And… the big mouths of the Flyers have collectively shut. Resigned to silence for the remainder of the season.
My goodness! Am I ever relieved that Daniel Briere signed with Philadlphia and not Montreal. One less mistake to worry about.
Joseph,
your thread is the sounds of a frustrated Habs fan who’s team was beat(badly) and could not compete with a better skilled team(Flyers) and could not come to grips with that fact…call it luck if you may, maybe one game or two games…but four games in a row?…any excuse to pasify yourself. However I do admit that the Penguins are a better team and took the series in 5 games without luck as did the Flyers with Montreal…and I still bleed Orange and Black with pride…and grin at the fact the Habs were slaughtered by mere lambs!
May 23, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Malone would be awesome!
May 23, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Jack, grow a brain.
I’d love to see Malone in Montreal, but I’m not sure of how realistic it would be.
May 24, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Habs all the way!!
Next year!!
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May 24, 2008 at 5:50 pm
but I really think Gainey should go after Rolston.
May 25, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Hab Faithful, I agree because Rolston is a big forward with grit and he can also put up good stats. And to the guy that said Malone would be nice, there is no way in hell he’s going anywhere but pittsburgh!
May 25, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Does anyone honestly believe that Malone, with his great stats, will be let go by the Pens? c’mon, there’s no way he’s leaving Pitt, and I think there will be more trades by the habs, as that seems the only way this team will improve. I understand it’s not a deep UFA year, so Gainey better get on his horse, and not fall asleep at the wheel again.
May 25, 2008 at 6:37 pm
The Pens have a huge bunch to worry about as far as signings go , plus M-AF and EM in 2 years ….
May 28, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Montreal will do fine if they just got Rolston.
June 1, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Well I expect most of you watched the Detroit / Pittsburgh games to date. Personally, I have never been a Detroit fan in hockey so I wanted Pitt. to win but without Malkin performing this team is going out in five. Back in the Winter there was a big discussion about who was the best player him or Crosby, well I guess we know now. Crobsby is only 20 and Malkin 22 yet Crosby has shown up every game to date Malkin is a great player but that is just it he has to learn how to win when the pressure is on and the checking gets tougher. Crosby might complain but in most cases he gets hooked more, grabbed more and checked more than any other player yet he still manages to produce goals. Malkin has not learned how to use his teammates yet and that is the difference between the two players.
June 2, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Its not Malkin’s fault that they are getting beat, give some credit to a a very good Wings team, Malkin is not there I aggree, but he is a very important piece in their puzzle, not sure we need to try and say who is the better player, Malkin is a goal scorer Crosby is a playmaker …
June 3, 2008 at 11:07 am
The Penguins pulled a miracle out of their arses last night.
Regardless of which player is better–Crosby or Malkin–watching them battle the Red Wings is like watching David battle Goliath. They seem ‘tiny’ in comparison.
I sometimes think the NHL ridiculous. Officials end up deciding the outcome of a Stanley Cup Final game? In overtime no less? Whatever happened to sport, to the players deciding the outcomes of games? Whatever happened to allowing the players to be physical in a physical sport?
My suggestion for a new name: The MHL (Metrosexual Hockey League)
June 4, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Is this blog ever going to update? I’m tired of seeing 2007-8. It’s getting closer to draft time. Couldn’t we please concentrate on that?
June 4, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I agree Hab faithful lol. This has been here for a month!
June 4, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Im sure HB will update the site soon but give the guy a break, he puts alot of hard work into the site during the season i think he deserves a bit of a break. Its always slower here in the offseason anyays. Well since you did bring the draft up what would you like to see happen of draft day? Keep our pick? Trade up for a better pick? Trade it away for a player(s) Deep draft this year could make things interesting.
June 4, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I think it will be a weak UFA season as not alot of quality UFA’s will be available. I would prefer Gainey to make a blockbuster trade, and also give some offer sheets to RFA’a. Gainey must stop his conservative mode, because this is a make it or break it year, with our centennial celebration and all.
June 5, 2008 at 12:36 am
I wonder if Montreal can be compared to Pittsburgh after watching their unbelievable performance, great leadership, and never-give-up attitude. We are a great team, but Pittsburgh to my opinion is a force to reckon with. I believe we really need an impact player. I’m thinking of somebody like Rick Nash. I’m just wonderign how much it would cost us to land such a player…
June 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm
The Swedish national team just won the cup !! The true force to reckon with is the Wings , they dominated the Pens all over the ice. We will see what players are left in Pittsburgh when the season starts ….
June 5, 2008 at 3:07 pm
I don’t know if getting a eally big player would help because it could ruin chemistry. But getting a player like rolston could help.
June 5, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Habs need grinders and leaders, not superstars.
June 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Everyteam needs one bonified superstar , we might all ready have that in Price in the near enough future, but someone like Rolston can not hurt at all, I would not be upset to see #13 MS show up for 2 years or so.. Lets see what Bob has in mind ..
June 9, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Yep to land a guy like MS for two years would be pretty sweet but not sure he would want tp play here. Who knows?????
June 9, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Well everyone says the runner ups for ms is montreal, detroit and I think Calgary.
I don’t know about the flames though I forget.
June 9, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Habs are always the bridesmaids. When other teams are also in the picture, we always lose out. ie, Briere, Hossa, etc.
June 9, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Well Matts has played in Quebec before and he has invested loads in REER’s if he goes south he has to sell them and he stands to loose tons,the Wings don’t have the room under the cap for him ,We do.
We did not lose on Hossa,Bob did the right thing he did not trade the farm for a rental,Briere wanted to be with his bum buddy Biron …
June 10, 2008 at 7:16 am
Mad Max Lapierre just inked a 2 year deal with The Habs good to see they are working on keeping the young core intact.
June 10, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I said that the Habs don’t need a superstar because I believe that they already have a couple in the making. The only thing that those talents require is to be lead by heart and learn how to win when it counts.
June 10, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Leafs might buy out tucker. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i would’nt mind seeing him on our third line. Ony for cheap though. A little grit maybe????????
June 10, 2008 at 7:54 pm
We have some good young players but next year is the 100th, we need a bonified superstar to help make a serious run at the cup.
June 10, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Sundin?! Tucker?! What the hell! Why don’t we go get McCabe too! I don’t want those guys on the team!
June 11, 2008 at 12:39 am
Perhaps Bettman has it all arranged.
Patrick, I concur. Why would we want older Leafs that have never won anything? Maybe they can bring the Ballard curse with them too?
June 12, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Boudreau got the Jack Adams trophy for coach of the year. what a crock of sh***t. Habs finish 1st in the conference, Caps DIDN’T, yet Carbo is snubbed. Typical of the anti-habs NHL.
June 13, 2008 at 6:27 am
I agree the only reason why the capitals made it anyways was because their division sucked ***! and the reason why they played better after the deadline was because with Huet they were 9-1-0!!! It wasn’t Boudreau!!! The caps got enough awards with OVE. The NHL just doesn’t like the habs. Most of the NHLPA guys are from Toronto, so that could explain it. If Kovalev had 65 goals and Ovechkin had 40, to Hart would go to Ovechkin. Thats how fucked up the NHL is right now. Who ever is more exciting and better should be recongnized. If no one agrees, Why was Kovalev not in the line up for the All-Stas?!?! And Price should have won Calder and he wasn’t even nominated. It’s just sad. Don Cherry even agrees that Carey is the Calder of the year.
June 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm
LOL Don Cherry please I dont want to have to ever say he is right !
The Jack Adams should have gone to Carbo without a doubt,and for those comments about Matts Sundin please tell me who else there is on the market to fill the void we have in that postion?
June 13, 2008 at 3:03 pm
If Mats Sundin came here I would just forget about all the leaf moments he had. Just like how we got Doug Gilmour! But I do not want Hossa on my team!!!(Trade Dandenault and bouillion to move up in the draft. We have to many young defencemen coming up that should get an opputunity to play. Francis Boullion is great but we don’t need him anymore. Or Trade Markov and get Brad Stuart because Markov was horrible in the playoffs.
June 14, 2008 at 8:00 am
I am a Habs fan but realistically I think Mike Babcock desearved the Adams. Not only winning the Presidents Trophy but the Stanley Cup as well. Start to finish it had to be Babcock. Carboneau a close second. I think Boudreau won it on his personality not his track record.