Canadiens 07/08
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Final thoughts on the Canadiens 2007/2008 Season and playoff run….
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- Senet1 : I want the Bruins to win anyway so that we pick ahead of them in the Draft.
- Senet1 : Muller you got your wish NYR won game 4. So the Bruins will have to play another game at least.
- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
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June 14, 2008 at 8:04 am
Trade Markov? Thats insane
Yes we have some young unproven guys coming up but they are unproven.
No need to panic and trade away guys like Markov, we need to add to the team not take away.
June 14, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Markov has went to the playoffs a couple of times and hasn’t showed much. Brad Stuart Would be better in the playoffs. Markov would get us 1st in the conference but kicked out in the 2nd round again and brad stuart would take us 4th in the conference but win the cup. But I don’t care, I think that the habs are going to win the cup no matter what. I don’t think we need any one. But if we go up against a team like Anaheim or Dallas in next years finals were gonig to need tough defencemen and We need to make room for O’Byrne. Get rid of Boullion and were all set.
June 14, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I do agree with you to a degree STU, but trade Markov I don’t agree with. Yes he was bad in the playoffs but wasn’t he injured as well? Let’s ged rid of Breezer and give his spot to O’Byrne. And let’s get rid of Bouillon(mighty but too small) and Dandenault, get Stuart.
June 16, 2008 at 6:56 am
yeah maybe yor right anyways this is my prediction:
Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Kovalev Higgins-Koivu-Rolston Kostitsyn-Grabovski-Streit Begin-Lapierre-Kostopoulos Markov-Koimsarek Hamrlik-O’Bryne Georges-Bouillon
June 16, 2008 at 6:58 am
O’Byrne is like a young Komisarek and guys don’t worry the cup will come soon enough. I think we have the team right now to get to the finals but to beat Anaheim or Dallas we will need another big D man.
June 16, 2008 at 3:23 pm
We wont see Streit here I dont think, and Rolston well the word is they are trying to resign him high priority.
June 16, 2008 at 4:52 pm
If we lose streit and can’t get Rolston Bob Gainey will get someone big. Someone like Hossa. I don’t want hossa here but hey, If they can pick up him and a tough D, that would be nice.
June 16, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Seems Malkin might not be staying in Pitts, the word is its Hossa he is willing to take less to stay and play with Crosby. Sundin would be a great choice, he is big tough and his work ethic is next to none, and a true leader in the room.
We shall soon see
June 16, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Well if Sundin was willing to sign a two year contract for 6-7M he would be worth it because he is the first line centre that we need. That would free Kiovu up to be trade with a couple of other players to get an impact player that we need. We also need to remain prepared to take a shot at Vinny at the trade deadline. Some of you are making the same suggestions that I made back in May, sorry I have not been on lately. It is hard to imagine that malkin will not be in Pittsburg, however, if Pittsburg signs Hossa, then the money situation will become difficult and they will be in the same postion as Tampa has been in no money for the supporting cast. So they may need to trade Malkin for some additional depth and draft picks. Now I would offer a couple of farms to get him because I think our coaching staff can actually make him into a team player and he is the breakout player we need.
June 16, 2008 at 10:03 pm
As for some of you looking at Dallas and Anaheim for next year, I don’t know about the rest of you but I don’t think Detroit is going to roll over for anyone. This team is fairly young, tough with speed and I have not seem such an organized team in a long time. Babcock has them playing a very disciplined game. To me the only weakness they have is in net and they still won the cup because of a great defense and forwards who can play at both ends of the rink.
Pittsburg will find a way to keep Malkin but it was obvious to me that they need to strengthen their defence to compete with Detroit type teams. If we can strengthen out forward with a couple of additions and get bigger on defence then we can give Pittsburg a run for their money next year.
June 17, 2008 at 12:26 pm
It won’t happen but It would be awesome if the habs got Malkin!
June 17, 2008 at 5:13 pm
I think the team we have right now can kick pittsburgh out in 6. We have great veterans,better D, more balanced offence and either than carey’s rookie playoffs, better goaltending. I hate him but the best thing for us would be Chris Pronger.
June 17, 2008 at 5:39 pm
don’t they ever update this blog? C’mon do it!
June 17, 2008 at 7:50 pm
I am sure there will be an update come the draft. No worries
June 18, 2008 at 12:23 am
It’s almost summer here on Vancouver Island and the weathers been absolute ****!!!The forecast for July is supposed to be Desert like with all the drought ,which is not the norm, hope the summer is great in every way for you all.Bob Gainey should relize you can still have speed and skill with a big athlete and in most cases you’ll toughen up the team by doing so.GO HABS GO…..
June 18, 2008 at 10:47 am
Panthers’ captain Olli Jokinen has indicated to Florida’s general manager Jacques Martin that he would like a trade. The big centre will continue to lure tons of interest, although one team suggests the asking price is marked at two young NHL roster players and a first round draft pick.
June 18, 2008 at 11:30 am
We can give S. Kostistyn, Georges and a #1 draft pick for Jokinen. We need him, and Gainey should make every possible attempt to lsnd him.
Look, Pitt gave away quite abit for Hossa, but he took them to the finals, and scored alot of goals in the playoffs, and they might be able to resign him, so why can’t the habs do the same? Gainey needs to make a big splash, especially with this being the habs anniversary year!
June 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm
That trade look’s ok. But I’d hate to seee SK go. I really enjoy the game he plays.
June 18, 2008 at 7:08 pm
they might take grabovski,georges and a 1st rounder.
but I think Bob will get a really good deal because after al these years of rejection the habs will be accepted and lots of players know the habs are one of the best!
June 19, 2008 at 8:34 pm
If I am going to make a trade for Jokinen I would not trade away my youth up front. but I would trade Koivu straight up. Remember Jokinen wants out of Florida and he is not happy with the coach. It is an even trade and we eat some difference in salary. We do not need three offensive centreman.
Also don’t forget that Gainey is also interested in Sundin but I would take Jokinen before Sundin because of the salary difference.
Possible Malkin trade, this would be harder to swing because Pittsburg is looking for talent but also salary cap space. They need defense as well as they would like some additional offensive punch for the loss of Malkin. Here is my trade, Markov our first round pick and any two of our forward prospects in Hamilton. If we give up Markow we need to replace two defensive positions. OByrne has one and we also have two other defenseman in the US College and minors that may be ready. I would like to see us pick up a big strong defenceman but he has to be able to handle the puck.
June 19, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Columbus is also looking to trade their #1 pick. Again I would trade Markov and Our #1 pick.
June 19, 2008 at 8:52 pm
hab faithful, I would not exact say that Hossa took Pittsburg to the finals, He did play well and better than anyone expected but where would he have been without Crosby feeding him. Hossa was free because the other teams paid so much attention to Crosby. However, like Greszky before him Crosby could always find the open man. Not so sure Hossa would have produced nearly as well if he were the #1 man that got all the checking from the other teams.
June 20, 2008 at 6:56 am
exactly, If Hossa comes here, he’s probably going to be our best player and in the playoffs he’ll fail under the pressure. There will be 2 players on him at all times. We need someone like Sundin or Jokinen. or more canadians with heart and grit!
June 20, 2008 at 11:31 am
anyone who can score 12 goals in the playoffs, and get his team to the finals, I’d take in a flash. This year he showed the grit! you guys are too funny.
June 20, 2008 at 2:13 pm
yet again, he did not get his team to the finals, It was all Crosby and Malkin until the finals. The habs have the best offence in the league, clearly we don’t need offensively small weak players that get take anyone out. We need some one big!!! Our defence is big with Komi 6’4″ and Ob’Bryne 6’7″ but we need some one big. Pierre Dagenais was ok. He had like 12 pts in 32 games,if he played 82 games he would have gotten about 30-40 pts and for a 4th line crusher that’s pretty good. If got Georges Laraque, no one would be calling us small anymore lol. But I don’t know where Dagenais is, but I liked the game he played. He’s 6’5″!!!
June 20, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Why on earth would we want dagenais? Yikes that brings back bad memories
June 20, 2008 at 3:33 pm
report: Habs have permission to talk to sundin’s agent!!! and It’s just the habs also. something tells me something wierd could happen! and Degenais wasn’t that bad. We made it to the playoffs when we used him. And I’m not saying get him back I’m saying get a big forward!
June 20, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs are trying to encourage Mats Sundin to decide his playing future before July 1.
In the past 24 hours the Montreal Canadiens were granted persmission by the Maple Leafs to speak to Sundin’s agent about the possibility of the 37-year-old centre signing in Montreal.
The Leafs would have to trade Sundin’s negotiating rights to the Canadiens to facilitate an early signing.
It’s too early to say whether or not the two Canadian teams will make that move, as the Canadiens’ reluctance to give up any assets for the privilege to get to the Leafs’ captain may be based on his willingness to speed up his decision making.
At this point, Sundin remains uncertain as to whether he or not he will play at all, so the Canadiens’ attempt to get a head-start may turn out to be a fruitless exercise.
The Canadiens believed they were close to a deal to acquire Sundin at the trade deadline, but Sundin refused to waive his no-trade to accomodate that deal, or the potential for any other.
June 20, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Trade Markov your nuts … he is one of the best puck movind D in the game
June 20, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Alex Tanguay is now a HAB!!!!!!
June 20, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Boo! We need size, he **** the bed in Calgary and couldn’t handle the pressure here, now imagine in MTL! Our team is built for the regular season, we need toughness or a big powerforward. Nonetheless he’ll do well and MTL just got another frenchmen, enjoy.
June 23, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Well I was one of the guys who suggested if the right player ws available that we trade him. I have not heard but as far as I am concerned unless he was playing injuried he disappeared in the playoffs. Maybe it was because Komy was still hurt and therefore Markov took more of the beating from Philly and Boston. But Markov did not play up to his regular season abilities.