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  1. #1 ed says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    Will there ever be light at the end of the tunnel.i try to convince myself Bob did his best to bring in ufas.They keep on saying montreal is not desirable taxes,language and media pressure.IS this the new NHL.There isn’t a level playing field money talks as we see long term cotracts with no trade clauses.these guys go the best of worlds.the nhl should look into a system like the draft to give a fair chance to all teams to get these top players. i just hope BOB does sign some players that will help till the yougsters down on the farm and drafts picks can make up to the big team.

  2. #2 LJ55 says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    who cares about ufa’s anyhow, you have to overpay and i haven’t seen any team have great success by builing a club with ufa’s. i don’t recall any ufa aquistions that put a team over the top. do you?

    i don’t understand why people have to act like a bunch of spoiled 5 year olds who didn’t get the toy they wanted this time of the year every year. we thought guys like Brad Richards were overpaid only 3 weeks ago, suddenly it doesn’t look that way anymore. i mean guys who have a career high of 70 points getting 7 million dollars? let these foolish gm’s spend like a bunch of drunken sailors on shore leave. if the canadian dollar starts to go down again don’t expect the cap to go up anymore. now that would be funny seeing the cap go down and all these teams try to sqirm out of these 5-8 year deals which have NMC’s.

    all that being said we better not settle for the leftovers, i’d rather starve.

  3. #3 Habsfreak says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    Selanne’s still available and he want’s to go to the habs.
    P.S. Bertuzzi,Forsberg,and Yashin want to come.
    Selanne says he’ll take 32 million for 12 years or 12 million for 6 years, and he would give koivu and (hopefully) Kovalev a big boost. And that would make Koivu a 35 goal scorer and a 95 point getter. Selanne would 50-65 goal scorer and 115-125 point getter. oh, Selanne would also be a replacement for Souray on the powerplay 35 goals on the man-advantage. And instead of Kovalev, Ryder and higgins would be 40(ryder), and 30(higgins) goal scorers. Higgins would have 60 pionts Ryder would have 75! That’s the difference one player can make. As for Kovalev…he would have about 62 points 20 goals so if they sign Selanne
    they should keep kovalev until the deadline and if worth it longer.So come on Gainey! Sign Selanne!Go habs Go!Go habs Go! And sign souray somehow!!(If you have money!!)

  4. #4 Habsfreak says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Bertuzzi,Forsberg,and Yashin want to come.
    Selanne says he’ll take 32 million for 12 years or 12 million for 6 years, and he would give koivu and (hopefully) Kovalev a big boost. And that would make Koivu a 35 goal scorer and a 95 point getter. Selanne would 50-65 goal scorer and 115-125 point getter. oh, Selanne would also be a replacement for Souray on the powerplay 35 goals on the man-advantage. And instead of Kovalev, Ryder and higgins would be 40(ryder), and 30(higgins) goal scorers. Higgins would have 60 pionts Ryder would have 75! That’s the difference one player can make. As for Kovalev…he would have about 62 points 20 goals so if they sign Selanne
    they should keep kovalev until the deadline and if worth it longer.So come on Gainey! Sign Selanne!Go habs Go!Go habs Go! And sign souray somehow!!(If you have money!!)

  5. #5 Habsfan says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    Bertuzzi,Forsberg,and Yashin want to come.
    Selanne says he’ll take 32 million for 12 years or 12 million for 6 years, and he would give koivu and (hopefully) Kovalev a big boost. And that would make Koivu a 35 goal scorer and a 95 point getter. Selanne would 50-65 goal scorer and 115-125 point getter. oh, Selanne would also be a replacement for Souray on the powerplay 35 goals on the man-advantage. And instead of Kovalev, Ryder and higgins would be 40(ryder), and 30(higgins) goal scorers. Higgins would have 60 pionts Ryder would have 75! That’s the difference one player can make. As for Kovalev…he would have about 62 points 20 goals so if they sign Selanne
    they should keep kovalev until the deadline and if worth it longer.So come on Gainey! Sign Selanne!Go habs Go!Go habs Go! And sign souray somehow!!(If you have money!!)

  6. #6 Habsfan says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:37 pm

    Selanne still available

  7. #7 Habsfan says:
    July 2, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    Canadiens sign Roman Hamrlik

  8. #8 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 2, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    You know what guys? Who cares if briere signed in philly he is way to small anyways and would not get more than 70 points in montreal anyways.Who cares if smyth signed with colorado his wife must wear the pants in that family its plain to see.(p u s s y wipped)Why is everyone so upset over not being able to sign these overpaid gold diggers.Just take a look at the final year of brieres,smyths contract,would you want to pay them 6.5 million at the age of 37 lol.That is just plain stupid and dont kid yourself everyear there is always a free agent BUST so one of these teams is gonna be stuck with a very big contract to deal with.As far as i am concerned if players dont want to play in montreal then we dont ******* i n g want you wearing the red,white and blue.Just have a little faith guys and be proud of our habs because one day we will be back on top and one day many players in the nhl will regret snubbing the montreal canadians. GO HABS GO p.s Gainey has somthing up his sleeve and we will all know what it is in the comming days.

  9. #9 Lucky says:
    July 2, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    I missed ya Pactum Serva words of wisdom…

  10. #10 PACTUM SERVA says:
    July 2, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    lol thanks lucky

  11. #11 Fizz says:
    July 2, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    Hamrlik, good solid signing! Maybe this is the first of good things to happen… we can hope!

  12. #12 habsfan_for_life1212 says:
    July 2, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    Read this post on habs inside/out, it opened my eyes.
    Pity the poor Habs! It’s so sad they treat prima donna Russian ice dancers so bad, word must be getting around that they run a slave ship in Montreal. Get Real!!! You want hell, try the Islanders? That’s New York brother, major market, solid tradition, loads of cash. And what do they have to show??? They traded away two top prospects and this yrs 1st for a rental player who just walked out the door, along w/ their top goal scorer, their #4 scorer, and their top defenseman. You want hell, try Buffalo a team where players had a “chance to win” then had both their co-captains walk. So much for commitment to team.How bout a 3-time Cup winner like New Jersey & their HOF goalie? They lost their top center and Top D-man. Now tell me any of those teams has the deep well of prospects that the Habs do. At worst we lose a -28 d-man. I’d hate to see him go, but…If you’d rather have $4 million in cap space tangled up in a 39 yr old Jason Blake like the Leafs will in a few yrs, go ahead and cry a river. I’m happy to be patient and wait to see what the kids do.
    I believe in Price!!!

  13. #13 Fizz says:
    July 2, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    … Very well said. I to am excited to see what the kids do!

  14. #14 Avatar37 says:
    July 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    Yes, the habs are going to have to build through the draft and development system. We’ll get there but it’s going to take longer. Go HABS Go!

  15. #15 smiler2729 says:
    July 3, 2007 at 6:36 am

    First of all, players don’t want to play in Montreal because of stu pid fans like josh and the ridiculous French media…

    Second, I’m glad Gainey’s not overspending on Briere, Smyth, Drury and Gomez, those players aren’t superstars but are being paid by idiot teams like they are.

    Hamrlik and Smolinski are fine tweaks, Lord knows we need help defensively… and maybe just maybe Saku can talk Teemu into signing here.

  16. #16 habahabahaba says:
    July 3, 2007 at 11:54 am

    I would like the Habs to sign Danny Markov. I am not comfortable with Striet playing full-time defence. (Maybe we put him on the wing for the whole season and on the point for power plays.)

    I would be okay with Johnson re-signing.

    Yashin I am not comfortable with. As someone else mentioned make him earn his contract with incentives if we absolutely can’t get along without him.

    Zubrus I am just okay with… I know and like many Russians, but they seem to only play when they want to. When they want to they are amazing. When they don’t they are shadows on skates.

    Chris Simon might also be a lotto pick if he is available on the cheap. Simon could add some size/punch/character on the fourth line.

    Question: Is Bill Guerin interested in Montreal ?

    We have some cash lets spend it on free agents and keep the prospects in the barn. Marleau is good, but at what price if these rumours are true ?

    Another that might fit for the cheap: Gelinas

    O’Neill from the Toronto Make Believes could add scoring…or even Peca to take over Bonk’s spot.

  17. #17 ziman says:
    July 3, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    I am a little disappointed that Montreal did not get Gomez, Briere, Drury or Ryan Smyth but Gainey did offer these players more money and they took less money to play elsewhere so we should not blame Gainey on this one. The Habs do have some good prospects on the way and they will win the cup in the next 3 or 4 years. They will be cup contenders before it is all said and done, just wait and see.

  18. #18 Stuart-SB77 says:
    July 3, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    I can’t believe u guys thought Smyth was a habs canadidate. bros wake up, Smyth can tip in goals(that’s great) but we need a hockey player not a baseball player, I see him play hockey, he’s in slow motion and he doesn’t do too much. I would like Briere better but didn’t happen. I like the Hamrlik signing and the smolinski thingy, but It is not over.TSN said they had 31M before signing players, now after buying they probably have 38M THE CAP LIMIT IS 50 MILLIOM.12 Million to spend guys!

  19. #19 Stuart-SB77 says:
    July 3, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    I can’t believe u guys thought Smyth was a habs canadidate. bros wake up, Smyth can tip in goals(that’s great) but we need a hockey player not a baseball player, I see him play hockey, he’s in slow motion and he doesn’t do too much. I would like Briere better but didn’t happen. I like the Hamrlik signing and the smolinski thingy, but It is not over.TSN said they had 31M before signing players, now after buying they probably have 38M THE CAP LIMIT IS 50 MILLIOM.12 Million to spend guys!

  20. #20 Stuart-SB77 says:
    July 3, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    sorry I didn’t mean to repeat ,lol

  21. #21 habahabahaba says:
    July 3, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    http://broadband.tsn.ca/tsn/?id=349&vid=9294

    Bob now says we only have 2-3 million left in the kitty to get players ?

    Wow that large availability of cap room is gone after 1 major signing and 1 medium signing ?

    We still can get Gelinas, Allison, or Simon for that amount.

    I guess we fill up empty spots with our AHL Champs……

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  • goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
  • Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
  • Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
  • goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
  • goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
  • Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
  • Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
  • Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
  • goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
  • HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
  • Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
  • Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
  • Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
  • HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
  • HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
  • HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
  • Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
  • Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
  • Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
  • HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
  • HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
  • HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
  • HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
  • Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
  • Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
  • Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
  • goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
  • Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
  • Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
  • goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
  • goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
  • Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
  • Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
  • Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.

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