Canadiens Acquire Sidney Crosby
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So the NHL draft is scheduled to take place Saturday July 30th, and everyone wants to know who will end up with Sidney Crosby.
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The Canadiens surprised everyone today by selecting goaltender Carey Price at #5.
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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May 12, 2006 at 10:22 am
Dont we all wish lol
May 12, 2006 at 10:23 am
Woops.
My gag paper would have been more convincing had I spell checked it first.
ahhh..
So who would take that trade?
5 for 1
May 12, 2006 at 10:26 am
First off pitts would never do that and second pitts would never do that and finally third pitts would never do that but i would do it in a heartbeat.The habs have alot of young prospects comming up to fill the voids plus there are free agents too.
May 12, 2006 at 10:35 am
CRUEL CRUEL JOKE!!! one day he’ll come
May 12, 2006 at 11:27 am
It wasn’t that many years ago that the legendary Sam Pollock traded Billy Hicke and some other lesser lights to the Oakland Seals for Guy Lafleur. They said it couldn’t happen, it wouldn’t happen but number 10 wore a habs jersey.
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May 12, 2006 at 12:18 pm
is this true?
May 12, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Gail, no it isn’t. Please refer to post #2. HabsBlog has way too much time on his hands
Habs don’t have a chance in hell of ever seeing Crosby wearing the tricolor.
But there’s still good news. Theodore and Brisebois continue to demonstrate their innate skills for deteriorating whatever hockey club they’re with. Speaking of the Ave’s, I wouldn’t mind seeing Rob Blake in a Habs jersey… c’mon Bob, open the vault for this one this summer!
May 12, 2006 at 1:40 pm
.I fell for it at first.
May 12, 2006 at 2:01 pm
I disagree Gumper. I think Crosby will be in the tricolor but not for another 6 years of so.
May 12, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Rob Blake will be a great addition to the Canadiens, if we can get him, ……. however, even more important than that is to find someone to play with Kovalev.
If Kovalev had a center that to play with, we would have beaten Carolina !!!
Maybe someone from his countryland. …. let me see… how about Ovechkin ….
May 13, 2006 at 1:45 pm
I think crosby WILL come to Montreal..within 3 yrs at least..for a trade like the one posted on the habsblog..unless it is actually already true!
May 13, 2006 at 1:54 pm
HAHA CROSBY SUCKS..MONTREAL SUCKS AND DIE-LAWN THEY HE WONT BE COMING TO MONTREAL IN THREE YEARS..AVALANCHE STANLEY CUP WINNERS 2007 BABY..!!!
May 13, 2006 at 2:04 pm
See what happens when you dont have a girlfriend or a life
May 13, 2006 at 2:58 pm
ha…colorado wont win the cup in 2007 NIGEL
May 13, 2006 at 2:59 pm
ha…colorado wont win the cup in 2007 NIGEL.. they suck…the habs and huet r gunna take it!!
May 13, 2006 at 3:03 pm
Isn’t it illegal to quote what a player says..unless it is actually true
..like..what crosby said about loking forward to being a hab
May 13, 2006 at 5:24 pm
Who says Gainey wants…a spoiled brat!! Hated by most players in the leauge….give nothing up for him.He need serious maturing.With way Pits were this year hopeless.Rebuilding will take a few years…Crosbie won’t be in the playoffs for a least till they can build what was destroyed the last few year through poor trades.
May 14, 2006 at 5:29 pm
According to Red Fisher in the Gazette there are many players who would have second thoughts of coming to Montreal and the media frenzy here. I used to think that kind of stuff was b.s. (this is the birthplace of hockey with the best fans in the world), but apparently the Koivu picture and language-baiting by the Journal de Mtl. had a lot of players talking — league-wide.
My question is this: will the best UFAs be willing to come to Montreal given an equal offer from a place like Carolina or Atlanta where they can walk around anonymously? Let’s not kid ourselves, these guys are human too and too much attention can be a very distracting (just look at the gangstas) and unwelcome thing.
May 14, 2006 at 7:33 pm
I hope not but i guess we will see come july 1st
May 14, 2006 at 7:34 pm
Great point jack but some players love the attention.
May 14, 2006 at 8:07 pm
Jack please explain the language-baiting issue….excuse my ignorance:)
May 14, 2006 at 9:18 pm
Phil it was a whole thing how a reporter asked koivu a question in french and he couldnt replie.The reporter did it on purpose just being a ****.But players on the team said that he does speak a little french but is uncomfortable speaking it.
May 15, 2006 at 12:01 am
Jack,
The Koivu incident does not help intice players to come to Montreal. That is for sure, however, the real superstars, who strive on having a lot of pressure, will love to come to Montreal. This is why when Gainey was asked about getting free agents he said:
” … But if you don’t care, or it’s too tough, or too lively or too spicy or whatever, then you’re in the wrong place. But I think there are people out there looking for spice, and this is the place to get it.”
Look at Kovalev. Kovalev could have gone to NY Rangers and gotten a litte more money, but he wanted montreal because of the atmosphere. The problem with Kovalev, though, is that he has nobody to help with ….
May 15, 2006 at 8:38 am
Joey, that’s a good response. I think you’re right (certainly who can argue with Gainey?!). P.S. It’s definately true that players in other sports (ex. basketball) thrive on the rockstar cults.
Montreal’s a mighty fun place to play when you’re doing well, despite the pressure. All signs point to some good seasons coming up, so let the games begin! — and YES, get a center for Kovalev!!
May 15, 2006 at 8:51 am
lol ya i think players that would not want to come to montreal probably wouldnt give 100 percent anyways.Montreal is a very tough market to play in,so if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen.There is never a dull moment playing for the habs and if you are a player that wants to take the back seat than go sign with the blue jackets go habs go
May 15, 2006 at 11:23 pm
you guys are on crack CROSBY and blake ae not going to play for the habs no one will if Kovalev took a pay cut putting blake and crosby on your team your looking at 3 players at 5 million are more montreal will never get anyone good and they will never win a cup agian
May 16, 2006 at 12:01 pm
I heard a rumor that Kirk Muller might be hired as an assistant coach ….
That will be awesome…. he has a lot of energy and always positive… It will definitely help the team..
May 17, 2006 at 8:17 pm
Kirk Muller was a gritty player and always gave his all.His energy would transfer to any hockey player.I read somewhere on the “Gazette” that this might happen.But then again rumors abound.
May 22, 2006 at 2:37 am
this story is not a gag. it is a fact. it wil be some time. but it will happen. it will happen because everybody involved wants it to. even him. love cannot be stopped. he will be a hab in 3 years. he will play out his contract in pittsburgh.
then he will probably sign and ask that he be allowed to see a priest…behind closed doors he will ask forgiveness for his goals against the habs this season, not knowng that they hve already been forgiven. Once his heart has been relieved of this burden, he will be able to relax and flourish as a Montreal Canadien.
May 29, 2006 at 1:19 pm
Thats a good offer but keep alexander perezhogin.
otherwise its good.
May 31, 2006 at 2:48 pm
THAT CROSBY JOKE WOULD SUCK IF IT WAS TRUE…I WOULD RATHER HAVE THOSE PLAYERS THEY SAID THEY WERE TRADING FOR HIM !!!!
May 31, 2006 at 2:48 pm
THAT CROSBY JOKE WOULD SUCK IF IT WAS TRUE…I WOULD RATHER HAVE THOSE PLAYERS THEY SAID THEY WERE TRADING FOR HIM !!!
May 31, 2006 at 11:06 pm
Better yet get rid of Ronald Cory
June 9, 2006 at 1:09 pm
if only,
we would fill in the blanks which would lead to the cup…
u can count on this in about 6 years when he is a ufa
July 9, 2006 at 8:07 pm
What a sick, sick joke. Why would anybody say that.? It’s like giving candy to a baby and taking it away. That is what I pray for every night. SIDNEY CROSBY!!
December 3, 2006 at 8:50 pm
Whoever left the message that Crosby needs maturing is right…he’s such a baby when it comes to winning and losing. I’d never trade anyone on Les Canadiens for him. I think the Habs will take the Cup this year as long as Huet can do exactly what he did last year in the playoffs. Is it just me or did the Canes get a bit lucky on the series clinching goal?
February 9, 2007 at 5:23 pm
this will never happen even if they would consider the trade
March 3, 2007 at 11:37 am
CROSBY RULES!!!!!! and whoever disagrees with that has NEVER see him play!!! watch him he’s AMAZING!!! and he is NOT a baby and i repeat again: NOT A BABY. he is 19 years old and leading the NHL in points right now. he is the youngest player EVER to reach 200 points. even better then Gretzky!
posted by Crosby’s #1 FAN! CROSBY RULES and the rest DROOL. GO PENS!!!!
August 25, 2007 at 1:00 pm
ya you wish
too bad Montreal sucks and the penguins ROCK
that will NEVER happen
keep dreaming
GO PENS!!