Canadiens Second Round of 2006 Cuts
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The Habs dropped the axe for the second time this training camp as they slim down to their final roster.
- Cuts:
- Jonathan Ferland
- Maxim Lapierre
- Kyle Chipchura
- Corey Locke
- Ajay Baines
- Yann Danis
- Danny Groulx
This means fan favorite Guillaume Latendresse as well as Andrei Kostitsyn and Alexander Perezhogin all still remain in the hunt for the last forward position.
On defence Andre Benoit, Dan Jancevski and Ryan O’Byrne are still around to fight for the last defence position.
Will Guillaume make it? What if he doesn’t? If last years cut rattled his confidence so much what will another year of being so close do to him?
Whatever happens, this is all good news. When have the Canadiens been so deep with young talent and when has training camp come down to the wire like this?
The future is bright.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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September 27, 2006 at 12:10 pm
Too bad we can’t lose a guy like Streit and pick up both Dan Jancevski and Ryan O’Byrne. Same goes for the forwards…I think it would be useful to give both Lats and AK46 a chance this season, both bring different things to the team. Although Lats brings the power we desperately need (that being said, AK46 is sooo fun to watch!). Oh well, I am REALLY psyched that I bought tickets to the game in Ottawa on Thursday night…should be fun!!
September 27, 2006 at 12:25 pm
Latendresse seems to be ready based on his play. He scores and tries to hit everything that moves. We could use a power forward with talent. However, what will happen to Perogy. He has shown occasional brilliance. I don’t want to lose him but will he accept being moved back to Hamilton or will he be part of a trade.
September 27, 2006 at 1:27 pm
Latendresse might be able to make the transition to the big club. He showed big league talent with his goal against the Tampa Bay. I think we have a very good club this year. The big improvements are going to be Samsonov, and Huet in nets full time. I like our chances this year. Even if we play in the toughest division in all of hockey.
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September 27, 2006 at 3:37 pm
One way to see it is Perezhogin, Latendresse, and Kostitsyn fighting for one spot. Another way to see it is Perez, Laten, kostit, Murray and Downey all fighting for two spots. I would start the year with Latendresse and Kostitsyn and rotate the other 3 up (or whoever is putting up more effort), if anyone is not doing well in the main team.
September 27, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Tough division? Perhaps but as long as the rest of the conference sucks we’re still in!
But we’ll do well in the division anyways…
Does anyone know the lineup for tomorrow night? Now that most of the youngsters have been cut, the lines should start looking more ‘Season ish’
September 27, 2006 at 4:25 pm
@HabsFanStuckInOttawa
Get rid of someone like Streit??? You can’t be serious! Have you seen some of the preseason games or are you just bashing him because of his play early last season? You’ll sure change your opinion once the season has started. Trust me!
September 27, 2006 at 5:34 pm
I hope so…I’ll be at the game tomorrow and he should be in the lineup (hopefully). Don’t get me wrong, I REALLY liked his play during the olympics last year as well as during the preseason this year, HOWEVER, I DO NOT think that he is indespensible. If we had a younger player that we needed to give experience to, I would pick Streit in a second to go…that being said, our depth in this area is not the best
September 27, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Don’t be suprised if Streit leads all Habs defense in power play points.
Samsonov and Johnson signings/trades were a mistake.
We really didn’t need Samsonov, Kostitsyn would have been perfect.
This way Latendresse would be a shoe in.
Not to mention the extra cap space $$$
A draft pick would be great for Zednik and who cares about Johnson,
Perezhogin is much better.
This years line combos could have been:
Higgins – Koivu – Ryder
Latendresse – Ribeiro – Kovalev
Kostitsyn – Plekenac – Perezhogin
Murray – Bonk – Begin
September 27, 2006 at 9:41 pm
stevejur
You’re ******’ right! And then next year when contracts are up, bring up Chipchura and Lapierre instead of Bonk and Downey, to save money to sign Markov and get a D-man or two with that cap space.
September 27, 2006 at 9:59 pm
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the fact that Flyers’ goalie Antero Nittymaki is injured and that might be a great time to trade Aebischer. I wonder if Denis Gauthier is available.
September 27, 2006 at 10:29 pm
@ CH TATOOED
I love cristobal but…don’t think for a secind that were ready to give up the tandem of this duo in nets. Once again I love his play and confidence!!! But don’t sell the farm on him just yet! GO HABS GO!
( God is a HABS fan! )
September 27, 2006 at 10:55 pm
You must be kidding Stevejur. You rather NOT have Samsonov and Johnson than have them, without any compensation for the team?
Are you trying to save Mr.Gillet money or trying to make a good team?
Of course we cant depend on rookies to do well all year for sure. That line up you mention would have a hard time making the playoffs. But, with the added depth, we will make it.
October 2, 2006 at 10:25 am
dose any body think the canadians should have won the cup last year? Why?