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The Chicago Blackhawks make a rare visit tonight to Montreal where the Canadiens hope to start improving their record at home.
The injury riddled Blackhawks are without several players, most notably Jonathan Toews. It shows as they have lost 5 straight. On paper this should be an easy home win for the Habs to put in the bank.
Carey Price is apparently sick and Jaroslav Halak will warm the bench tonight.
Andrei Markov has finally been given some recognition and been nominated to the All-Star team. Much deserved.
On the other side of the spectrum, someone who has been missing for most of the recent Canadiens success makes a return tonight. For reasons unknown.
Return to glory.
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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : go.
- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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January 8, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Home game, I don’t think we can call it easy. Since I think we all noticed that the habs usually find a way to make it hard on them selfs. Price, is sick or is going back to Hamilton ? I’ve got a question for all of you ! Remember Theodore when he came to Montreal, I think he was good, and then we start saying that he would be down on his knees to fast and started letting more goals in. Same thing happened to Thibault. And I remember last year that the word was practically shoot high on Huet… Pretty interesting to see that when Carey started the season, he was strongher and would be standing most of the time. And now, he seems a little more uncertain and is doing more and more the famous butterfly style. I’m actually starting to wonder if the goalies are the problem. Just as a note, the 4 mentionned goalies above all had one thing in common … Can you see it ?
January 8, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Rollie Melanson, their goaltending coach?
January 8, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Price and Chipchura down to Hamilton…
Halak and Locke up with the big boys…
Habs2010… don’t you read hockey reviews? Thought you were on the ball here
I’d say there is a double meaning on this: One – get Price some back to back games and getting him stopping pucks again; Two – A Halak showcase for trade bait, he has made it clear he wants to play in the NHL and wants to be shipped.
PS – there is a ceremony before the game tonight for the original 6 showcase the Habs have been doing this season like they did before the Detroit game.
January 8, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Yup, maybe Melancon is the actual problem. BigTime, I agree with you for price and Halak, it would probably do some good for him. But whats the explanation for Chipchura ?
January 8, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I’m feeling more confident in those moves by Gainey…bring on the SENS,DEVS,STARS,WINGS,DUCKS,CANACKS etc…lol,I am happy for Cory but…MY HEAD SPINS 360 DEGREES AS THE PEA SOUP FLIES OUT OF MY IN DISBELIEFED MOUTH.Maybe we should swap G.M’s and coaches with the Bulldog’s too?Look,I do know this fosure,with the Hawks down 8 members ,we better win IMFIO.
January 8, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I think it was probably time for Price to go to Hamilton. He wasn’t playing enough here. Maybe he should have started the season in Hamilton. Hope it doesn’t ruin his young career, like it did to Marc Andre Fleury.
I guess Chipchura can’t win faceoffs? Is Perreault or Stoll being traded here?
time will tell.
January 8, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I don’t like seeing Price go but he does need to play. Maybe keep him in Hamilton for a couple of months, bring him up towards the end of the season and have him back Huet up on our run to the Cup. Huet leaves in the summer as a UFA, Price takes over the number one spot and Halak backs him up next season
January 8, 2008 at 6:47 pm
I think Halak is being showcased as trade bait. On the other hand, Price does need to play and right now he’s not getting the playing time in Montreal. So let all us Habs fans hope this demotion for Price is a good thing.
January 8, 2008 at 6:58 pm
I can say that Carey Price hasent’t been playing his best hockey lately, easy goals and stupid mistakes have been a common thing in the past few weeks for Price, but we can’t blame the guy, can you imagine beeing 20 years old and playing for the CANADIENS, big load on the kid’s shoulders for his first NHL season, he’s good, but in a few years, he will one of the best number 1 goalies in the league, I see him in a habs uniform for a long time. How about Chipchura??? why Hamilton??? He’s not winning the faceoffs maybe, but he’s one of the best players against the boards, he is calm, composed and very smart in his plays, rarely we saw mistakes from his part. What the Canadiens need to do in matter of fact is to finally get rid of KOIVU and get a REAL CAPTAIN…or else, we will never see the CUP in Montreal.
January 8, 2008 at 7:07 pm
well, after Saturdays game, I’m not surprised. Price let in 3 goals that an NHL goalie CANNOT let in. Bye bye Price, do a stint in Hamilton, come back when you’re ready to be a NHL backup.
Chipchura going down is bull though, he’s been a steady defensive forward, but I don’t see him being down there for the rest of the season.
Do remember though, at the start of the season, Gainey did say that some of the guys up here now, may being going down to the minors, and some guys in the minors may be coming up to the big club, because they are not exposed to waivers. Makes sense he would do this at the midway point of the season.
January 8, 2008 at 7:11 pm
All you guys have great thoughts. I really think It’s possible for a trade to be coming. remember the trade deadline is in Febuary!
January 8, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Huet should have been sent to Hamilton, instead of Price!!!!
January 8, 2008 at 10:29 pm
HabsPal, you’re going to tell me that the first 3 goals so far let in by Huet are great goals, sorry, but I am totally willing to live with a Rookie goalie letting in ***** goals than a supposively Number 1 Goalie. Anyhow, lets see how this game ends…
January 8, 2008 at 11:31 pm
If the game had gone to a shootout-habs lose for sure! Huet is pathetic@ even Pierre Maguire said Huet should have stopped 2 goals. We better hope we don’t play Toronto, because we all know Huet can’t beat them.
January 8, 2008 at 11:37 pm
habs2010/judy.grantseeker@gmail.com you sound a lot like Chevy aka habwhatever and his other 15 Hab_______ names…No one wants to hear your constant whining so say something constructive once in awhile or I’ll assume your Chevy’s old lady.
January 8, 2008 at 11:39 pm
A pretty good all-around game tonight and a much needed home win. Breezer looked great in his first game back!
January 8, 2008 at 11:50 pm
LOL @ the blog … oh look we won at home nice ! Price needs to play and there are guys coming back so we will see some players being moved around , no big deal, Huet is not going anywhere he will be resigned, they should offer him a deal right now … and a few others also, there is some talk that the Habs might break with the traditon of not signing during the year and offer out a few contracts. I say they should do the same and show some of the players we want them here and it can help for motivation.
January 9, 2008 at 12:10 am
LOL way to tell him HB HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
January 9, 2008 at 12:37 am
Why is everyone so down on the habs? They’re in good shape. Go habs go!
January 9, 2008 at 12:53 am
Anyone got any cheap habs tickets for sale? ok if high up, but between the blue lines? I really want to go to a game.
January 9, 2008 at 1:50 am
all you guys do is complain trade that guy trade this guy everyone wants change why? we are doing good now so lets keep this team!
January 9, 2008 at 2:19 am
and for the people who say Huet should be sent down he hasen’t lost in regulation for 8 games.
January 9, 2008 at 10:06 am
Jessef, don’t go telling me he hasn’t lost in 8 regualation games, please. The only reason he hasn’t lost is that Montreal, Played Chicago, Tampa twice, Florida. Montreal as been scoring 3 goals or more for the past 6 games, that helpds him big time, cuz stupid goals against Ottawa, Detroit or others will loose you the game. Look at the full stats before answering.
January 9, 2008 at 10:30 am
Well said Habs Blog…
“If the game had gone to a shootout-habs lose for sure! ” Habs2010…
This guy would complain about the size of really big cheque if he won the lottery… we won dummy~
(also questioning he is a guy at all anymore, so I’ll change that to “13 year old kid”, or maybe a Sportsnet watcher who all cheer for the leafs and think Glen Healy & Nick Kipreos are gods)
January 9, 2008 at 11:03 am
Maybe instead of complaining about the Huet, Price and all we should complain about Melancon. He’s the biggest problem in the team.
January 9, 2008 at 1:21 pm
And what proof do we have that the problem is Melancon? You guys just cant be happy eh, you need to pick and fiddle and complain and whine and cry all season. I could understand if we were dead last but we are not, and we should make the playoff’s if we continue to play like we are now, this team is yound and has some great promise, we need one or maybe two players and we could make a serious run at the cup. Huet is one of the better goalies in the leaugue and Price will be one of the best in a short time. I for one like the way the Habs have come along this year and hope to see more in the near future.
GO HABS GO!!
and GO AWAY HABS2010 GO AWAY !!! and all the other cry babies
January 9, 2008 at 1:34 pm
“IF” your Aunt had nuts she would be your Uncle…………
January 9, 2008 at 4:34 pm
yeah jeez. I bet if the habs were in 1st place Habs2010 would still be complaining! The habs havent been that bad of late but I do agree with one thing.Huet sucks against toronto,and so what! Halak has beaten them before. I’m very confident right now. Unless they lose the the big bad Bruins lol whcich would be sad. GO HABS GO!!!
January 9, 2008 at 6:37 pm
we have the bruins number, the same way NJ, Car, and Buff have ours.
January 9, 2008 at 7:00 pm
for those over the age of 40, watching the pre game ceremony before last night’s game, was awesome. Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita,Denis Savard, Guy Lafleur, ken Dryden, Yvan Cournoyer,Henri Richard. That’s what it’s all about.
Those players were simply unbelievably awesome!
January 9, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Who is crying, stop acting smart, all we are doing is give are opinion and to me, all goaltenders that pass in Montreal are good and start having the same problem and get on their knees too fast and quite honestly, I rather seing a 20 year old rookie giving up retarded goals than Huet giving at least 1 per game. Like it or not, Huet as maximum 3 years left in the NHL and beleive me, Huet won’t bring Montreal to the Stanley cup and I don’t think that Price will either. We need some natural scorers and Huet might be good money for a trade so hope they do it if it’s the case cuz or else we will loosing for nothing more than memories.
January 10, 2008 at 10:25 am
Well I guess you know better that Scotty Bowmen cause he says Price will lead the habs to the cup.
January 10, 2008 at 11:16 am
Wow, the cup that would be nice, but we would need a few more elements to score goals and maybe they would have a chance.
January 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm
What a bunch of wankers over there in the Habs Insideout Blog.
There are a select few who run the joint. They pounce on eveybody who don’t agree with them.
You guys have room for a big ole DOG……
January 10, 2008 at 4:15 pm
DTD, aka “NEWFOUNDLAND DAWG?” WELCOME HOME BOY!
January 10, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I was under cover over there …LOL…..
I thought that they were bad in here….
There’s no place like home………
January 10, 2008 at 4:45 pm
BUT I love to get under their skin though………
January 10, 2008 at 4:51 pm
lol… Habs inside out is just that…and ran mostly by a young middle eastern girl from what I can tell.. oh well… There a few good things learned here, and when you live outside on Montreal, it’s great to get the inside scoop with whats up daily~
Heard today (rumor) that the Habs may be looking at Stoll from the Oilers… I say no thanks… Perrault from Chicago is the face off man to acquire… why do teams keep getting rid of him? He’s unreal with the faceoffs (but does use a blade on his stick similar to size of the blade on a goalie stick…probably why he isn’t getting the points)