Claude Julien Fired (again)
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With a few games remaining in the season and a 2nd place position in the Eastern Conference, the New Jersey Devils have fired coach Claude Julien.
This makes the second time Julien has been fired in just over one year.
This comes as more of a surprise and shock and certainly more details will follow.
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- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
- stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
- stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm
- goalie : SEns beat us 4 games to 1. Pens had last night's game under their control. What does that mean if we were up vs the Pens in a series. I think the Habs have a way to go before we're competing for Lord Stanley's Cup!
- Senet1 : If he could score goals like Lucic and we could sign him to a four year contract then I would consider it too. However, NOT if we only have him for one to two years.
- Senet1 : So we went from 27th pick to 21st pick.
- goalie : Normally I would not trade draft picks BUT if we could get a consistently, solid player (especially forward) who is BIG I'd trade one of our picks.
- Senet1 : The good part of this is with both Detroit and Boston moving on to the 2nd round it makes our draft position better, we move up the list by two.
- Senet1 : Bruins beat leafs in OT. It was hard but I was hoping the Leafs beat the Bruins. They had a4-1 lead in the third and two goal lead with less than 4 minutes and lost. Sound familiar.
- Senet1 : The thing is just because you get those guys does not guarantee that you will even make the playoffs or get out of the first round. Look at Detroit they built a strong team and organization and have been at the top for years. Yet they only have had a chance to win it two or three times. No matter how good you are you still need the breaks. So putting yourself in position to win is the most important thing to do year after year.
- stuo11 : i think rightnow we came 2nd in east, a few tough players and we could win it all. why wait? id rather win the cup and not make playoffs the next year!
- stuo11 : and save 4 mill
- stuo11 : ryan clowe or raffi torres! and then a big defencemen! trade markov and gionta for Cammalleri. crap for crap but at least hes canadian and good in playoffs lol
- stuo11 : goalie and muller, we outplayed the sens, real bad luck, major injuries! i still find were the better team. If the nhl wasnt so dumb about zibinejads goal itd be totally different!
- Senet1 : Don't TRADE DRAFT PICKS for one to three year wonders.
- Senet1 : Sorry guys but I would not trade our draft picks. We have 1 in the first round, 2 early second rounds + our own 2nd round pick and a good third round pick. We have finally got a chance to build this team like Detroit did and be able to stay up in the upper group of teams for a long time. If we blow this draft we blow our long term success. There are some players we can trade away and hopefully get some rugged players in return and or more draft picks. We have shown other players that we have
- goalie : I agree with Muller. I'm not sure how many high / mid draft choices we have but I'd be looking to make some moves (even trade draft choices) for a couple of proven, rugged, players who can help us immediately.
- muller93 : Well MB is a finalist for the GM of the year and I for one will say he did a great job with the Habs. We are just a few players away from having a real contender for years to come. But I really don't want to bank on this years draft--We need some NHL ready players. Hab fans have waited long enough and we have a good foundation. Lets trade some players along with some draft picks and get some big players in here. This is the only problem I see.
- Senet1 : The leafs were intimidated early not from size but just not believing they could beat Boston and they did not get good goaltending early. Now they believe that they can beat the bruins and I would not be surprised if they do because they have faster than boston. They are beating boston to the puck similar to the way we beat them to the puck. They are exploiting their defence with their speed. So as long as Reimer gives them goaltending they have a chance.
- goalie : Senet has it right. Other teams have drafted skill, size and dedication. Those players are out there.
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April 2, 2007 at 1:32 pm
John Furguson Jr. will be next.
April 2, 2007 at 1:33 pm
So does that mean Larry Robinson steps in and leads them to the Cup? Or is Pat Burns back? Maybe Robbie Ftorek! Maybe Lou-Lou hires Mario Tremblay! Whatever.
Lou Lamoriello is an idiot who has all the Devils’ players drinking his Kool-Aid. How else do you explain such talented unrestricted free agents returning to New Jersey in the past 5 seasons for less money than they could have received on the open market (Stevens, Brodeur, Elias)?
I hate New Jersey and not cuz they dominate the Habs but because they are always a un-original boring team. Kinda cool logo though eh?
April 2, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Poor Claude Julien, he deserves better. Hopefully he ends up somewhere where he doesn’t have to bow to a GM who dictates how to coach.
Maybe Boston, I hear Dave Lewis is done. Maybe Ottawa if they make an early playoff exit. And one never knows what will happen in Tampa Bay, Carolina, Washington, Edmonton, Colorado, Atlanta, Philadelphia over the summer, hey, even Calgary, Dallas and Pittsburgh might look for a change!
Good luck to Claude, I kinda wish he was still our coach but I don’t make the changes, josh is the GM.
April 2, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Josh can’t fire me cause I QUIT………There HA, HA, HA.
April 2, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Hard to understand, but it’s not like he hasn’t fired guys at this stage before. It won them a cup once, when Robinson took over, I think. I’m not a Julien believer, myself. Half the reason he was hired by Montreal was because he’s french, and the other half was because he worked cheap and was already in the system. What amazes me more is the talk of coach of the year for Therrien. Michel, or Mike as he now likes to be called despite his Cretien like accent, was lucky to even have a job this season after his varied and uninspired rants last year.
I think Crosby, Malkin and Staal have a hell of a lot more to do with the Penguins success than that lame duck of a coach. Coach of the year? Don’t make me laugh. There are at least 5 better candidates than that stiff.
Any way, glad to see the Rangers wallop the Leafs last night. I watched the game and enjoyed it immensely. I hate the Leafs…
April 2, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Gotta love Lou, hey Bob Gainey, if you wanna see a winner, look at Jello Lamorello, that man a ring for almost every finger, except of course the middle finger which he gives to losers like Guy….
If Carboneau was with the devils, they could win the cup, Guy could probably be a decent coach on any other team than the habs, with the habs he has no accountablity so he doesn’t give a rats ****! But hey, if he had pressure and accountablity, Guy Carboneau could win a cup!
April 2, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Why was Julien fired? Makes no sense! They’re in 2nd place! Lamoriello is a total moron! And with the playoffs a week away, and his team having a chance to win the cup, why would he do such an idiotic thing? Unbelievable!
I could understand more if Carbo was fired, but to a coach who has guided his team to a 2nd place finish.
April 2, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Hey, how about trading Guy Carboneau for Larry Robinson? Larry would know how to kick both Saku and Alexei’s butt big time and he would know not to sign Dandy and Bouilly and how to use the rookies properly!
April 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm
think Carbo loves Dandenault and Bouillon because they’re french canadien. If they were european, they’re gone! Yeah, I believe the Kovalev story to the russian paper, saying carbo loves his own french canadien players, and hates Euros
April 2, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Could be there’s a situation in Jersey that we don’t know about. Some conflict that the media hasn’t rooted out. A few get by them. It should be interesting to hear what Julien has to say about this. His reaction will say a lot.
April 2, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Word on the street is that the Devils’ had gone to Lou to tell him that they were not happy with Julien. It’s impressive that they tuned him out and kept winning while the Habs did the same thing once upon a time and the team sucked.
April 2, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Lou must realize that this will not put fans in the seats. IF you play this disgusting brand of hockey then 5000 fans is pretty darn good. IT will be a early exit for the Devils this year.
ALso Lou realizes that this year is the end of the line for this goup of players. He knows its downhill from here. Good luck Lou, you’ll need it.
April 2, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Where has Latendresse gone the last few games? HE has been invisible. Joshtm???
April 2, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Lou should have read a recent (TSN?) artiicle that showed over the past 20 years teams that were just average in their last 10 games won the cup. Teams who had peaked too soon didn’t have the stamina. It’s not just theory, the statistics were quite interesting. If anyone can cite the article more precisely I’m sure posters would be interested, it was just in the last couple of days.
April 2, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Oh come one guys stop it with the French players thing. So they aint like kopitar or Malkin. They weren’t also the first draft picks of their year. If Montreal was a real bad team each year we would get good players. And look at Kotstystin, he is playing well, but not all that much more then latendresse.
So please stop the French bashing. This is a team game anyways. And they are showing passion, especially Lappy, although his main goal isnt to score he’s doing that well.
April 2, 2007 at 11:16 pm
If anyone is interested- I have been sent an amazing e mail that has about
7 or 8 pictures of a Habs rec room, if anyone is interested send me an
e mail to cowboyboots@telus.net and I’ll forward it on to you. Sure wish I had a big enough house to have this…even though my hockey office has about
100 differfent Habs items in it, it pales compares to this one.
Smiler—yup they have a great Logo.
Loved that Ranger kicking of TO, just hope they don’t do the same to the Habs now !
April 3, 2007 at 12:50 am
KOstisyn has been very impressive yet has not found the trigger for goal. Everytime he touches the puck something exciting seems to happen. Great chemistry with the linemates but mainly Pleks. Higgins is still finding his grove but is still playing hard. The one thing I notice about Higgins is he is fanning on alot of shots this year. Maybe holding the stick to tight but last year everytime he had a chance he put a hard shot on net. Im sure he will fix that. Plekanec is sooo underated its not even funny. Great stickhandler, good awareness and can feather the most beautiful saucer passes. I would take him over Mike Fisher anyday who is a similar player.
April 3, 2007 at 6:23 am
I like Plekanec too, but I’d take Fisher. He’s much more physical, and gets it done on the scoresheet. That said, Pleks has made great strides since x-mas. I was thinking that he should have been benched prior to that, as he wasn’t scoring. I guess having to carry the defensive load for notorious non-back-checkers Samsonov and Kovalev took its toll. After seeing how he finished last year, I expected a breakout year for him, and though it took until January for him to get going, he hasn’t let me down.
I think Higgins is a bit gunshy right now. He was looking awesome before he hurt his ankle, and even after he returned, he wasn’t skating well until February. He’s fit in well with Plekanec and Kostitsyn, and has looked dangerous the last little while even though the points haven’t been there. He’ll be big for us in the playoffs, if we get there: I’m certain of it.
April 3, 2007 at 8:11 am
Well boys & girls, tonight is the night when we absolutely have to beat Boston. Loosing is not an option tonight. The Leafs pretty much have a sure 2 points tonight. I hope that the Flyers could muster up a win but it looks bleek that they could beat the Leafs.
The Leafs or Montreal, should one of them loose tonight I think that it will pretty much be lights out for the loosing team.
Agree Or Disagree?
April 3, 2007 at 8:23 am
If the laffs lose, I’de say Montreal is in. That would be a 3 pt lead and another win on the laffs. Toronto at home, they’ll probably win though. We still to be aware of the Canes too
April 3, 2007 at 8:39 am
Hello Fan4066.
Yes. The Canes are creeping back up there again. This is so hard on my nerves.
I don’t know but I am getting a bad vibe for the next 3 games for us. Maybe it is my nerves. If we are to not make it, I hope that the canes do.
April 3, 2007 at 9:11 am
This, however, looks uneasy:
Breaking down the final 3 games of these teams, I am boldly predicting outsomes based on the trends vs. the other teams this year…home vs roads, opponents, etc.
If this did come down to looking like this…..it appears both get in and the Canes don’t!! The Canes may lose out on wins vs Montreal and pts vs Toronto
Montreal: 79 41 32 6 88
Bruins 80 42 32 6 90
@ NYR 81 42 33 6 90
@ Toronto 82 42 34 6 90
Toronto: 79 38 30 11 87
Philly 80 39 30 11 89
@ NYI 81 39 31 11 89
Canadiens 82 40 31 11 91
Canes: 79 39 32 8 86
@ TB 80 39 33 8 86
Atlanta 81 39 34 8 86
FLA 82 40 34 8 88 or 82 42 33 8 90
April 3, 2007 at 9:14 am
You lost me there……………..
April 3, 2007 at 9:15 am
Typo…sorry
FLA 82 41 34 8 90
April 3, 2007 at 9:19 am
So what does all of that mean??????????
April 3, 2007 at 9:20 am
I just broke down the final 3 games left of each team and the accumulative record finishing the season…since I had people bugging me here at work…I frigged up the Canes last game prediction.
If they beat Florida, they finish 82 40 34 8 88, and appears they will not tie Montreal for pts….they won’t make it!
April 3, 2007 at 9:40 am
You can’t go by that anymore Fan4066.
We need to win the next 3 games period.
We won 5 in a row. Lost 1. We have won 1. Now just 3 more wins for a 4 games in a row.
If our season comes down to the last game with T.O. It wiil be one nervous night. The Leafs may get lucky……….
April 3, 2007 at 9:57 am
Don’t get me wrong DAWG….there is nothing I will love more than to see them win all 3, and I pray to God we do. The NY and laffs games are going to be a true test of how bad they really, really want this. It may look like 6th is a hard reach now with the NYR @ 91…looking like 7th may be the best it gets now, and a possible date with either NJ or Pittsburgh. Ide rather finish 8th and take my chances the the Sabres
April 3, 2007 at 10:03 am
I agree with you. We have the best record against Buffalo this year. 5-2-1.
But, we all know that the playoffs are a differnt season all together. Regular season stats don’t mean much then.
Like you said we will see how much the Habs want it.
If they loose tonight, they loose the season.
LETS GO BOYS, LETS GO.
April 3, 2007 at 10:14 am
I truely believe we will beat the Bruins tonight, the carrot is hanging here to take. But, ya, we really need to win this tonight, just to keep pace with Toronto.
Wouln’t it be freakin awesome waking up in the morning and hearing that Philly beat them!!! That would be just the BEST. That would be a 3 point lead with a 4 win margin, it would be a nice buffer to work with for sure
April 3, 2007 at 10:23 am
C_D FYI, Our record against Buffalo is 4-2-2… in the playoffs there is no ties so things even up a bit…
but I think we would have an advantage going into the Playoffs in that our confidence would be at a 3 mth high, which would position us as good 1st round spoiler… and Buffalo has a lot of pressure to go far in the playoffs (also shooting for the Presidents trophey), plus add the pressure of they have struggled against us, I could see good things in this match-up! I like that match-up over any other of the top 4 teams with the exception of Atl possibly???
April 3, 2007 at 10:36 am
I stand corrected.
Are you trying to pick a fight BUDDY BOY…….LOL……….
You don’t want to drop the gloves with me. I have a mean bite……..LOL…
April 3, 2007 at 10:53 am
We have played the Swordsmen very tough this year, mostly, they beat us all up front of the season when they were flying high, but once they became human again, we’ve beaten them 3/4 since, and beating them last week is a nice way to enter a dance with them. We cave to come hard at them, they are finesse,we have to punish them to beat them…crush Briere in the boards
Oct. 6 lost at Sabres, 5-4, SO
Oct. 23 lost vs Sabres, 4-1
Nov. 24 won at Sabres, 2-1, OT
Dec. 9 lost vs Sabres, 3-2, SO
Dec. 19 won at Sabres, 5-2
Jan. 20 won vs Sabres, 4-3
March 2 lost at Sabres, 8-5
March 31 won vs Sabres, 4-3
April 3, 2007 at 11:11 am
I think that when the laffs need to win they overdo it and Raycroft always lets them down. Probably cause they get their heads overblown with worshiping and general brown nosing by the Toronto media, the Laffs will be off their game just a bit, enough for the rookies to tip them over and outscore them.
Of course the toronto media has it down to the final game, and that TO needs to win in regulation time….talk about being overly optimistic! Since when has Sundin and Tucker and Raycroft delivered when they were needed the most? Never!
I bet even the lacklustre Phlyers will bowl them over now. And the Islanders are smarting so they will payback, so it looks like strike three against the habs later in the week. Of course this is all reliant on the vets delivering for the habs, which we all know Koivu and Kovalev only come and go at their pleasure!
April 3, 2007 at 11:34 am
Of course here we are all overblown ourselves thinking we got easy wins against the Bruins, the Rangers and the Laffs!
April 3, 2007 at 11:53 am
Nothing will be easy pickings for us,nor has it been for the entire season.
But here’s something that could make our game tonight a little bit easier. Bruins have recalled Toivonen, and he will be playing the next 2 games. He’s their version of Abbyshit. But the bottom line is, we MUST beat NYR no matter what! And if the NYR beat NYI tonight, then the Rangers clinch a playoff spot tonight. The only reason that would be good for us, is because the Rangers might not play as hard against us,with a playoff position set. we all know, that if there is nothing to be gained, player like Jagr won’t play hard, thus giving the habs an easy win. Even tho we don’t want the NYR to get in, it’s inevitable. But the good news is, even if they get in the playoffs, we could still finish higher than them, so it’s imperative we win all 3 games. Remember, the last game of the season for the Rangers is in Pittsburgh, and Pitt is still trying to finish in 2nd place, so there won’t be any gimmies for NYR. We must play 60 MINUTES! NO MORE INVISIBLE 1ST PERIODS! If we come out flat vs NYR or Leafs, they will kill us, and it will be over!
April 3, 2007 at 12:02 pm
Never mind NY or T.O. right now. We need to beat Boston tonight.
April 3, 2007 at 12:11 pm
I agree with both of you. But DAWG is right, we HAVE to beat the Bruins tonite, it’s impairative we do so, again it goes back to how bad they really want this playoff spot. Their best hockey of the year has to be played in these last 3 games of the season, or this year was all for nothing!
April 3, 2007 at 2:36 pm
What was sad was Carbo basically crapping all over Saku, Guy, you leave that to me, imagine the let down this will have on the rest of the team!