Craig Rivet traded to San Jose Sharks
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Well it wasn’t Sheldon Souray who went to the Sharks (yet), but Craig Rivet.
Rivet and 2008 5th round pick in exchange for Defenseman Josh Gorges and first round pick in 2007.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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February 25, 2007 at 7:25 pm
I think the price for souray might have been a little high for the sharks.I do like this trade but i think this is just a piece of a bigger trade to come
February 25, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Don’t forget, we have 2 ,#1 picks, 2 ,#2 picks, and 2, #3 picks.
Draft wisely Gainey.
February 25, 2007 at 7:32 pm
I like Craig Rivet, he was competitive and a proud and true Hab… Good luck to him wherever he lands this summer. Two first round picks this summer, very cool. And don’t buy any bullshit that it’s a weak draft year, you can’t judge these things til way down the road. All drafts are ****-shoot after the first 5 overall are taken, more or less.
February 25, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Yes very true smiler
February 25, 2007 at 7:41 pm
Look at all these teams loading up on draft picks… Montreal, St.Louis (who fleeced Atlanta for Keith ‘Fatso’ Tkachuk and Philadelphia… It only makes an organization stronger.
February 25, 2007 at 7:46 pm
So long Craig, you were a good Hab. Best of luck in SJ. I guess this means the Habs will try hard to sign Sheldon Souray now eh?
February 25, 2007 at 7:51 pm
Good luck Craig great to pick up another 1st rounder
February 25, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Part of the problem is parting with “heart” guys; however, who wants the gutless ones on the team? sorry to see Rivet leave but he’ll do just fine in SJ. Bring in young and full of piss and vinegar guys Bob.
February 25, 2007 at 8:28 pm
It was time for him to move on, good to get a first round pick for sure, I did not dislike Craig he played here for a long time and had to put up with fanatics like we see around here all that time.
February 25, 2007 at 8:29 pm
So…Great deal for the future! What about the playoffs this year? Rivet was a character player and close to Captain K.
February 25, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Smart business and hockey trade. Free cap room for Markov and Souray re-signing or another deal that improves the team. Rivet, though full of heart, has had his day with the Habs, we all know that. Getting a good prospect (he’s only in his 1st year!!) AND a 1st rounder is just unbelieveable. [For those smart alecks talking about this being a soft draft year, you know very little about sports... a 1st rounder is one of the top 30 young hotshots available, worldwide. We've definately had some bad luck in the past, but the scouting is much better now.]
If Rivet was gone at the end of this year for nothing, imagine the whining we would have heard!!!
NO, we won’t win the Cup this year and the team is now stronger for the future. Hopefully we make the playoffs and a good run, but Rivet no longer made a major difference to the team, for better or for worse. Smart trade!
GO HABS GO
February 25, 2007 at 8:46 pm
I just checked Marleau’s stats and his best season was last year with 86 points. Be fore last season, he was a 50 points scorer. BTW,he’s 28-29 years old, and for all those who say we don’t have players like Patrick Marleau, LEAVE THIS SITE AND LEARN A BIT ABOUT HOCKEY.
WE HAVE HIGGINS, RYDER, LATENDRESSE, PLECKANECK………and more to come
Higgins: 23-24 years old; 27 points/45 games SECOND SEASON
Ryder: 26-27 years old; 42 points/64 games THIRD SEASON
Latendresse: 19 years old;24 points/63 games FIRST EVER SEASON
Pleckanek:24-25 years old;33 points/63 games SECOND SEASON
Now let’s examine Malreau’s career:
1st round choice 2nd overall (1997)
Position: Center Shoots: Left
Height: 6′ 2″ Weight: 220
Born: Sep 15, 1979
Origin: Aneroid, SK, CAN
Season Team GP G A P +/-
1997-1998 Sharks 74 13 19 32 5
1998-1999 Sharks 81 21 24 45 10
1999-2000 Sharks 81 17 23 40 -9
2000-2001 Sharks 81 25 27 52 7
2002-2003 Sharks 82 28 29 57 -10
2003-2004 Sharks 80 28 29 57 -5
2003-2004 Sharks 80 28 29 57 -5
2005-2006 Sharks 82 34 52 86 -12 *SEVENTH SEASON*
2006-2007 Sharks 60 29 36 65 6 *EIGHT SEASON*
C’mon guys, appreciate what we have, and trust me of we can hold on to these players, we can be a way better team than San Jose is……WAY BETTRE.
February 25, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Test post
February 25, 2007 at 9:20 pm
LATENDRESS RYDER AND HIGGINS SUCK. HEATLEY IS THE MAN. HE HAS JUST AS MANY GOALS AS MOST CANADIANS HAVE POINTS. LAST YEAR HE HAD 103 POINTS WITH THE SENS.AND HE MIGHT COME CLOSE TO MATCHING IT THIS SEASON. SO IF YOUR LOOKING FOR TALENT LOOK ON OTTAWAS ROSTER. HEATLEY, SPEZZA, ALFREDSSON, REDDEN, VOLCHENKOV(LEADS NHL IN BLOCKED SHOTS) AND NEIL (LEADS NHL IN HITS) ALSO FISHER AND KELLY. LETS SEE ANY CANADIENS PLAYERS WHO ARE BETTER THAN THOSE GUYS.
GO SENS GO
February 25, 2007 at 9:35 pm
HABS=NOPLAYOFFS
Only a complete moron of a Sens fan would waste their time coming to this site and posting absolute ****. I thought Leafs fans were losers but you take the cake homo.
February 25, 2007 at 9:38 pm
GO TO HELL BUDDY, the Sens will never make it past the 1st round off the playoffs without choking to a sub-par team!
Also trade Souray, he is going to sign with a west coast team, that is where is ex-wife and kid are. we can get serious prospects/draft picks if we trade him to a cup contending team.
GO HABS GO
February 25, 2007 at 9:39 pm
HABS=NOPLAYOFFS get yourself a life.
You must have a lot of time on your hand (or playing pocket pool with the other)
Who go’s around other blogs putting up stupid posts? You a loser buddy.
Heatley plays as good as he drives. What has he ever done in the playoffs?
I hope to god our habs play you in the playoffs so we can wrap you around a tree.
Loser!
February 25, 2007 at 9:52 pm
memo habsalltheway, ive been sayin for the longest time theres no way that the habs will be able to resign souray because he wants to be out west. i was just wondering if u thought the same thing i did after the rivet trade, that the sharks could get him for nothing at the end of the year, instead of trading away young prospects like carle, bernier, pavleski and so on. i think souray isnt goin anywhere till after this season, unless you’ve heard otherwise
February 25, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Ouch!! Stevejur that’s a little harsh, but I do agree with you that Sens and Leaf fans have absolutely NO right being on this site. It just shows their lack of class to come on here and hurl insults at us. I just hope that none of the Hab fans who frequent this site do not go on any Sen or Leaf blogs to do the same to them. GO HABS GO!!!
February 25, 2007 at 11:25 pm
Great trade Bob, more than i could have ever thought you could get for Rivet.
I hope you don’t go turn around and trade that pick for any Vets.
Good start Mr Gainey….what next? if you move Kovalev or Samsanov that would be wonderful.
Was Gainey using mind control on the Shark’s gm or something… There is no way i’d want to be a buyer in this market.
February 25, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Yes, yes, Sheldon’s daughter lives in Cali, we all know that (not like divorced parents have ever lived in separate cities or anything) … but I think he really loves being a Hab and take away his defensive misgivings, he’s a pretty awesome player to have on your side. Whether he stays or goes, I have faith Gainey will do the right thing.
February 25, 2007 at 11:57 pm
Like most of Gainey’s trades this wasn’t called by most…fair well Rivet, best of luck.
Don’t really know much about this Gorges guy but he sounds like a half decent shot blocker.
February 26, 2007 at 12:14 am
Ron Hainsey how the hell did we lose this guy?
We rated him so high on our prospect list. All he needed was a chance.
What a player this kid has become.
Will be the star that we thought he’d be.
What a mistake!
February 26, 2007 at 12:24 am
good start…Rivet’s time was passed his welcome…As his performance was way too dismal. Glad we did get something with potential…Got to do more with Kovalev and Samsonov…and Aebischer…that’s a package waiting to happen. I see a Philadelphia or Chicago trade happening…
Not sure I want to listen to tomorrow’s game. Just play tough and keep to the basics. Take out the man and anticipate while back checking…Lots of traffic in front….let’s see if we can play a playoff type of hockey game (for the full 60 minutes)…Go Habs Go!
February 26, 2007 at 12:48 am
yeah the guy seems like a decent defenseman, and if he aint, he’s still young enough to get better. Another draft pick is great too. All in all, I find this a good trade for us.
Haven’t heard what Joshtm had to say about this yet eh? lol
February 26, 2007 at 1:03 am
Habs rock! gainey is king!
February 26, 2007 at 1:16 am
Habs rock! you heard it here first: the cup is coming home in 09!Great trade the kid is better defensivly than rivet PLUS a 1st rounder! hail to gainey! ps: LEAFS SUCK!
February 26, 2007 at 2:06 am
Good first move by Gainey. Clears out some deadwood and stockpiles some picks. After the Leafs win tomorrow night Gainey can start moving Souray and Kovalev.
February 26, 2007 at 4:02 am
Whatever Gainey has planned, I would never root for the Leafs against the Habs. EVER.
February 26, 2007 at 6:38 am
Good deal
February 26, 2007 at 6:39 am
SENS = NO HEART AND NO CLASS
February 26, 2007 at 8:10 am
Who the hell is Josh Gorges?
February 26, 2007 at 8:53 am
I think I remember Josh GOrges being captain of the Juniors a couple years back. NOt spectacular but could become a decent 4/5 guy on d.
Stil cant believe we got a 1st for Rivet. ANd a prospect ready to play is bonus.
February 26, 2007 at 9:37 am
Stevejur, Ron Hainsey was a desparation move that went wrong, a Casualty of the New NHL, and the #1 reason for Nimmiina. Here is a good lesson on why re-entree waivers rules have to be chnged: http://puckstopshere.blogspot.com/2005/11/re-entry-waivers.html
February 26, 2007 at 10:09 am
HEy Frank;
When the Laffs miss the playoffs for the second year in a row we the GM finally start to rebuild? Or will he go for 3, 4, 5 and maybe more?
February 26, 2007 at 10:23 am
I wonder what the Blackhawks are looking for with Seebrook on the Block? I would a 22 yr old former first rounder, at 6-3 220, would add some nice depth to our D…
February 26, 2007 at 11:02 am
We have a chance in the next 48 hours to cement our future for the next 10 years.
Seebrook is available and the Panthers have received offers for Jokinen and Nathan Horton, but it would take a tremendous deal for GM Jacques Martin to move either player.
Denver Post reported on Sunday that the team might also be pondering offers for rearguard John-Michael Liles and offensive-minded wingers Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos.
Names like: Seebrook, Hejduk, Svatos, Liles, Jokinen and Horton can really set us up.
I would love to get Liles and Seebrook than we can afford to move Souray.
As for the other 4, take your pick there all great.
Good defense wins championships.
**It’s been reported that the Maple Losers are making a serious pitch for Hejduk
February 26, 2007 at 11:09 am
Snake, when the Habs lose tonight will they finally concede that they have to trade the raft of mediocre players that they have? If they re-sign Souray they will regret it every time he makes the highlight reel (and it won’t be for scoring)
The Habs don’t have enough picks/young talent to get guys like Jokinen or Horton.
February 26, 2007 at 11:46 am
Good trade. It frees up some money to get a good goal scorer. Have faith boys. We are going to need it the rest of this year. I the Boys loose to the Laughs -I mean Leafs tonight. It is game over for this year.
GO HABS GO…………SUCK LEAFS SUCK…………..
February 26, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Hey frank maybe you should look at the leafs before you start talking about the habs young talent or our picks hahahhahahahahahahaha.Oh sorry my bad i forgot you have a future superstar in steen hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah
February 26, 2007 at 1:09 pm
You’re right, how about you wow me with the glut of future superstars that the Habs possess? HAHAHA what a joke. Try not to get too depressed after the loss tonight.
February 26, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Again read post 40 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
February 26, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Hey frank maybe they can get john fergusons nose to suit up for the leafs hahahahhahahahahahahah
February 26, 2007 at 1:21 pm
How can the Leaf fans poke fun at any other team. What have they done in the last 40 yrs. That is one sorry *** team that they had a to honor the 1967 Stanley Cup laffs – I mean Leafs. That is all that they are hanging on to. Don’t poke fun there Frankie.
February 26, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Downey put on waivers
February 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Who’s holding on to the past? Habs fans are the ones that run around talking about their Stanley Cups all day with no regard for the fact that their team has been terrible for the past 14 years. You guys run any good players out of town. Your media and fans are so bad that UFAs don’t want to sign with the Habs.
Pactum, read 41 again, I didn’t see a response.
February 26, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Why wud i waste my time talking to a stinky leaf fan hahahahahahahaha bla bla bla
February 26, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Hey!!! My Wife is a Leafs Fan. LOL.. Yeh but 14yrs is a hell of alot better than 40yrs. Where was the Leafs last yr. eh. Playing golf in April.
February 26, 2007 at 5:09 pm
An inter-team marriage? What team do your kids follow (if any)?
It’s all bad when you are over a decade.
February 26, 2007 at 5:12 pm
I live in Toronto. My wife was born a raised in Toronto. My Daughter is for the Leafs. But myself I am a Proud Newfoundlander and Habs Fan. GO RYDER GO.