Division Matchups
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The Habs are in Boston tonight in another Divisional match. This is the week in the NHL where every team plays in their respective Division and the time where the packs will start to separate.
The Habs of course want and need to do well this week to keep a healthy distance between them and Boston, Toronto and Buffalo.
Carey Price starts tonight, even after Cristobal Huet posted the shut out and won the game on his own against Buffalo.
Carbonneau wants both goalies involved with meetings against the Senators and Leafs upcoming.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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November 8, 2007 at 7:00 pm
I think Huet should start against Ottawa and Price against the Leafs. See how either prevail and of course adjust going forward. Sure would like to know if there are any rumblings of trades & who have been targetted by Gainey. Any rumours, anything at all??
Let’s get the job done on the ice…we’ve been in pretty much all the 14 games so far…let’s keep it up…come on Kovalev, Ryder stop coasting! and get involved. It’s okay to get the uniform wet! Go Habs Go!
November 8, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Well Sam, if you’re stupid enough ( like me ) to read some of the dribble from hockeybuzz, there appears to be a rumor floating regarding Halak , Ryder and Kostytsin to Tampa for Richards and Roy.If you follow their logic they say that Murray being waived was to clear a spot and some room ( cap).After all the dust settles that would leave the habs about 200k under the ceiling. Can’t see this myself, nor would I want to absorb Richards salary.
remember, you asked…..I’m just the messenger.
t-rum…..aka Izzy
November 8, 2007 at 7:19 pm
that trade rumour is bogus. Richards has a no trade contract, and being paid 7 million/year. not happening!
November 8, 2007 at 7:22 pm
A little poem I found from a Bruins fan:
Hockey God Hatred
Man, I hate the Habs
And all of their supporters
I dislike them so much
I even hate their reporters
And for some strange reason
They have the Hockey God’s love
More than any other team
Far and above
They get all of the bounces
The calls and all of the luck
Sometimes they win games
When they don’t even touch the puck
For the Bruins on the other hand
It goes the other way
They lose way too many games
When they dominate the play
So when the Bruins play the Habs
We’re doomed from the start
As always, I have pre-game confidence
And then it gets torn apart
As usual, we out work them,
Out chance them, out hit
And the end result doesn’t change
Not one little bit
I find myself saying “WHY WHY WHY”
The Nancy Kerrigan way
I’m not looking forward
To facing the Hab fans the next day
My wife says “Get over it, it’s just a game.
It doesn’t matter at all”
And I say “It’s never JUST A GAME
When we play MONTREAL!”
I grab my remote
And take aim for the TV
I focus on the Plasma
And wonder how stupid can I be
I opt for a couch pillow
And throw it against the wall
But that doesn’t make me feel better
Not a touch, not at all
I get so freakin’ angry
My face turns beat red
Sleep is a write-off
There’s no way I can go to bed
Why do I feel this way
Why does it make me so mad
Because I hate the Montreal Canadiens
Does that make me so bad?
For some reasons unknown
The Hockey God is on Montreal’s side
No matter how much I’ve prayed
No matter how much I’ve cried
Oh Hockey God PLEASE
Please give us a break
Please lift your Bruin’s curse
Tell us what it will take
We as Bruins fans will do anything
Anything at all
But please don’t ask us
To cheer for Montreal
We’ll even disown Don Cherry
He’ll have no connection with us
We’ll send him away
On the Maple Leaf bus
We know he was the coach when this started
The Montreal Boston curse that is
We’ll fight with visors
To become enemies of his
We’ll get cocky and taunt
Each and every day
We’ll fake injuries and dive
The Canadiens way
Please keep this in mind
Our chins will be up
We ask “Please in this lifetime
Can we have a sniff of the Cup?”
November 8, 2007 at 11:35 pm
16 Jostm
you got it right,
the cbc is bunch of maple leaf ***-kissers. End of story
every sat night on hnic it’s leafs, leafs and more leafs, the cbc
just like the leafs are “losers since 67″
At least TSN is showing some Habs games this year, thank goodness for them.
November 9, 2007 at 12:07 am
I thought Plekanec put on a good move to score the 2nd goal. He works well with Kovalev, but unfortunately they’re a linemate. It’s not Kostityn. He does nothing for that line. If we could get 2 more snipers, what a difference that would make. It’s koivu, Higgins and ? nobody! 2nd line is Kovalev, Plekanec and ? nobody! 3rd line always changes so it’s too hard to figure out. But Gainey get 2 more snipers for the top 2 lines, and then we’ll have some offence, but not until then. Are you listening Gainey? get rid of the deadwood-Latendresse and Ryder, please!
November 9, 2007 at 1:05 am
@ habs fanatic, ” He works well with Kovalev, but unfortunately they’re a linemate. It’s not Kostityn. He does nothing for that line”, What are you talking about? Kostitsyn is the reason why they scored the two goals. That line was unbelievable tonight, good job by Kostitsyn on both goals and what a finish by pleckanec. Good job by Price as well! GO HABS GO
November 9, 2007 at 1:35 am
huet and price are the best 1 2 goalie tandom in the league by far!
nice goal by Plekanec he should have had 2 but kovalev tipped it in right before it went in, he should have let it go in but whatever!
November 9, 2007 at 9:36 am
I’m pretty excited that The Habs won last night and the Sens lost. This should set up a
thriller Sat. This team has already shown that it can rebound from losses. Hopefully,
Sat. we’ll get a chance to see The Habs hand a pretty good squad two losses in a row!
As long as this club gives solid sixty minute efforts I’m with them all the way – win or
lose.
But I have this crazy feeling that this Sat. we’re going to win!
Enjoy the game!!
November 9, 2007 at 11:42 am
Habfan: when I was talking about Kostistyn not doing alot, I meant as far as his goal production. He’s not scoring any goals, and we need goals from him because we don’t have enough scorers on this team. We need scorers on 2 lines, and Ryder has really crapped out. Did you see when he fanned on a shot in the 1st period? He was in the slot, great chance to score, and totally screwed up! He must be traded and get a sniper in return, in order for this team to have a chance of making the playoffs. If we could get 2 more scorers, we would definitely make the playoffs! Gainey has his work cut out for him.
November 9, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Claude Julien statements on the NHL Bruins site ~ “I think from what we saw, seemed like an elbow to the head on that play”… ” “Obviously, he got the elbow in the head and we know what happens from there.”
From my recollection Claude, Ward was not paying attention to a recently released penalized Boullion and ran into his Shoulder, not the Elbow… Boullion, whose head was turned toward the play which makes beleive there was no malace in the situation…. maybe, and I say just maybe, Boullion shrugged (at the point of contact) possible a reaction or to avoid further injury to a shoulder, which had sidelined him for 2 games earlier… before crying fowl I think maybe take a look at some footage… Here it is, you deside!
http://www.rds.ca/video/visionneuse.html?category=1
November 9, 2007 at 3:00 pm
I was happy with the win, but they will be in real tough against the Senators Saturday. The Sens finally lost last night but they will be motivated against the Habs. Did you guys read on TSN where they were saying that Ottawa’s projected record will be 71-11 or something like that, and they think they will be better than the 1976/77 Habs. They do not stand a chance against that team, no one does and some older fans know what I am talking about. Back then, regular season games did not go into overtime when they were tied after 3 periods and there was no shootout either. There is no comparing this years Senators to that years Habs. That teams stands head and shoulders above any other team out there. Anyways, if they really want to compare this Ottawa team to that legendary Habs team, then the Sens need to win the cup this year to even be mentioned in the same breath. It really pissed me off tha some people are already comparing them to the greatest team of all-time, the Montreal Canadiens!!! Sens suck!
Ziman
November 9, 2007 at 7:00 pm
@habs fanatic, I don’t really mind if Kostitsyn doesn’t score as long as he makes the line productive like he did last night, 3 points in 2 games soo far, he had a slow start, but now he’s starting to do better. I’m more worried about Ryder though, but i’m sure he’ll find his game soon, and when he does, it won’t be good for the opposing teams.
November 10, 2007 at 3:28 am
TRADE RYDER TO THE Blackhawks for Martin Havlat
November 10, 2007 at 5:06 am
Martin Havlat is considered damaged goods…do we really need more players that will spend more time away from the ice than on. Why wouldn’t we trade Ryder for a bonafide forward. Lecavalier/Patrick Marleau/Shane Doan type players…the bait will have to be packaged more than likely but include Halak and Dandenault and you may have a bite.
Go Habs Go vs Ottawa. Keep the game close and they have a shot at the win. Try to go all out and watch the game slip away…I think Huet is due again after the Sabres shutout win. Keep it up!
November 10, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Ryder is playing so bad that its ******** his linemates and that is as damaging as it could get.We have got enough hungry players in bulldog land that would do a better job than Ryder at this point and help Higgins and koivu out,and in the mean time a guy like Havlat could healup nicely. He would be an excellent addition as the playoffs near.Remember thats our no.1 line and its only got 2 forwards.
November 10, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I hope Gainey doesn’t wait too long to pull the trigger on a trade. If vwe don’t have a complete 1st line, we have no chance of either making the playoffs, or doing something in the playoffs. Hey, every team, no matter how bbad they are,has at least 1 GOOD 1ST LINE! WE DON’T!!!!!!!!!
November 10, 2007 at 2:36 pm
our second line is our first line in everything but name at this point. If the habs are down by one, which line do you think going to be on the ice to score? line “2″