Downey and Begin Fight
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The competitive spirit is strong among the Habs.
Aaron Downey and Steve Begin fought each other in practice today.
Good or bad?
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- goalie : What's with the Margahauland link just below? It appears to be from a hacker. Any thoughts???
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- Senet1 : I want the Bruins to win anyway so that we pick ahead of them in the Draft.
- Senet1 : Muller you got your wish NYR won game 4. So the Bruins will have to play another game at least.
- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
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December 5, 2006 at 7:18 pm
I’d say bad, because the chemistry of the team is so good that we don’t need this right now, but then again maybe it will fix some things between the two so they can work better from now on.
I guess we will see the consequences of this vs the Devils
December 5, 2006 at 7:21 pm
By the way, Abby is in nets tomorrow
December 5, 2006 at 8:14 pm
If Aebishcer starts, I hope he can earn another outing and increase his value. I don’t see him part of the Habs’ future (of coarse, limiting injuries)
December 5, 2006 at 8:17 pm
I thinks its good to see these things sometimes.Keeps the players on edge.
December 5, 2006 at 8:42 pm
Fights between teammates aren’t always a bad thing. It just goes to show that the competition and fire on the team is strong. It’s not like it’s frustration with the spot they’re in right now.
And it’s good to see Cristo get the night off on Wednsday, although it was a necessity with the back-to-back games.He needed a rest. But the Habs are going to need BOTH goalies to be on top of their games this month cause December is the hardest stretch of their scheduale(Devils, Islanders(who saw them coming?), Sabres twice, Boston twice more including next tuesday, Tampa Bay(still can be dangerous on some nights), Pittsburgh(if Malkin AND Crosby are going and Fleury has a good game look out), but the end of the month is kind of a relief with Washigton, Florida and Tampa again(although those games are back to back and we all saw what happened to them in the second game of the two night stand).
Cristobal just can’t play night in and night out while facing forty shots a night and win every time. So this brings me back to the trap proposition. During a period in which they’re being outplayed, while it may be boring, why not slow them down by playing a trap or rope-a-dope style hockey?
December 6, 2006 at 4:00 am
The last 3 games brought up the same old problems,Carolina=Cole,last years first round beating;Toronto= out- played&out- husseld;Boston ???& a loss.And the truth is ,with a couple of changes,this years Habs,would be killer.MAKE THE FU#@&NG CHANGES BOB.
December 6, 2006 at 8:48 am
I think it is a good thing. Begin has not fought in a while so maybe he wanted the practice. It happens more than people think. Downeys interview was great!!!!
December 6, 2006 at 8:57 am
NO CHANGES TO THIS TEAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Kovy, Sammy and Ryder need to do is break out of their little funk and this team will be on fire,It’s fans like you guys that make alot of really talented players not want to play here cause you and media are on their backs the minute they mess up,This is good team with the potental to be great, Shutup and let them play,Sick and tired of hearing change this change that, Whats next fire Carbo?
December 6, 2006 at 9:31 am
If it’s as simple as a little funk, then I too am for give it a little time. But if you notice these losses are going to affect their current status. These same guys not being productive is not acceptable…they’re pros and being paid substantially. You seem to think that if they continue their indifferent attitude that it’s acceptable. Well, the reality is that the games that should be put to bed are not ending up as wins…that means that potentially games that they are winning (against stronger teams may not happen and as a result you end up with a losing string). That’s what we learned last year. So, giving it time – doesn’t necessarily fit the picture. What do you do when the time slipped and they’re at 500, (give you a call to get more insight)…rather do the trade now and bring in the right chemistry (with production to boot). My 2 cents. Go Habs Go!
December 6, 2006 at 9:58 am
Hey HAB A DAB
I would have a tendancy too agree with you except..We are now 1/3 of the way through the season!!! A 5 or 10 game funk to me is understandable, but the entire 2nd line has been a now show since game 1 ! You would think with the talent on that perticular line that damn they’d be somewhat feared umong the league, Actually with Kovalev and Samsonov, they should actually be the first line! but All that being said…It’s well beyond a slump at this point…It’s time for a few changes..This team has the potential to go all the way…FOR REAL! The adjustments need to be made soon!! In my opinion this is the do or die month for certain players to have the CH on their jerseys!
Go Habs Go!
December 6, 2006 at 10:36 am
It’s bad enough you have Souray knocking his own goalie over every game it seems, or giving the puck away in what looks like an on the purpose pass to the other team…Streit and Ninny are bad for that too, what does the defensive practice do, practice giving the puck away and knocking over your own goalie?
December 6, 2006 at 11:00 am
Sammy is a great player, but we all know it is not working out with whom he is playing with. Something has to be done or Sammy is just wasted money. Kovy is know for being lazy but he is not able to perform because first, i think he is playing injured and second, he is not a center and does not have one on him and Sammy’s line. Third, i think Guy’s gameplan does not suit sammy and Kovy’s style. But,With that said, they should be producing more than they are.. LINE Combo’s Sammy,Higgins(when returns),Kovy or Sammy, Koivu. Kovy. Give it a shot Guy.
December 6, 2006 at 11:41 am
What’s the word on Higgins? I heard that he may be back early. Let us hope…
December 6, 2006 at 11:47 am
Obviously, you have to make the playoffs to be in the playoffs, HOWEVER we have seen in the past that Kovalev and Samsonov are playoff players…if we can get there. I too am disappointed with their performance thus far BUT Samsonov continues to skate well and force other teams to deal with him, and Kovalev has hit maybe 10-12 posts this season. This is a talented bunch, and Gainey will, in his own fashion, make the right move at the right time.
The Downey-Begin thing is just hockey. Don’t read too much into that folks.
December 6, 2006 at 11:48 am
Hey Josh:
SOuray this, Souray that?
How about SOuray scores, Souray hits, SOuray sticks up for teammates, Habs win!
December 6, 2006 at 11:48 am
IT would take a fool not to realize his importance. A real fool.
December 6, 2006 at 1:42 pm
If you lads ever played the game at a serious level you’d realize that this stuff happens in practices. Heck, it even happens in pratices at the not so serious level. It is a good thing! It shows that there is emotion and a competitive spirit in the practices. This is a winners trait!
Habs
December 6, 2006 at 2:05 pm
Tonight- Downey makes the lineup and jackhammers someone.
Begin does what Begin always does.
Youppi drops the gloves with a peanut vender in section 124.
December 6, 2006 at 2:18 pm
Its true, Gainey has Souray practicing knocking over Abby, and practicing giving away the puck….its what the scouts are looking for isn’t it? Apart from the game wining slapshots of course.
December 11, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Downey had some time off with his head, its questionable as to why he would risk any more problems just at practice, but then again, he isnt in the show for his offensive qualities, any added agression that he can get in should pump him up to throw some fists when i matters. Begin is a spark plug! I dont know where we would be without him right now, and this altercation should help him more than hinder.