Comments on: Eastern Promise http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/ Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:27:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: habs4ever http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45490 habs4ever Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:08:02 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45490 Thank goodness most of you are not the GM. The best thing to do with Michael Ryder is to keep him. You never sell low. Ryder's worth on the market is nothing, we wouldnt get a 3rd round pick for him. The best thing we could do was keep him. You sell high. Always, thats why we should of got rid of Streit. He won't duplicate this years performance and hes liability defencively. I think he would of brought a very rewarding return. Perhaps Bob plans on signing him, anything over 2.5mill/year is to much. Thank goodness most of you are not the GM. The best thing to do with Michael Ryder is to keep him. You never sell low. Ryder’s worth on the market is nothing, we wouldnt get a 3rd round pick for him. The best thing we could do was keep him. You sell high. Always, thats why we should of got rid of Streit. He won’t duplicate this years performance and hes liability defencively. I think he would of brought a very rewarding return. Perhaps Bob plans on signing him, anything over 2.5mill/year is to much.

]]> By: Jaker1 http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45171 Jaker1 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:39:16 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45171 Lecavalier is going to be with Tampa For a long time. Part of the reason Tampa is shopping Richards is to free up money to make Vinny a member of the Lightning for life and the other is to re-sign Dan Boyle. Montreal may get him but I think he may be at the end of his career ala Denis Savard. I think Gainey may have to settle for minor deals like Federov. Got a feeling this guy may change dressing rooms tonight if Montreal beats Columbus.Ryder to Columbus.Purely for the playoffs. Lecavalier is going to be with Tampa For a long time. Part of the reason Tampa is shopping Richards is to free up money to make Vinny a member of the Lightning for life and the other is to re-sign Dan Boyle. Montreal may get him but I think he may be at the end of his career ala Denis Savard. I think Gainey may have to settle for minor deals like Federov. Got a feeling this guy may change dressing rooms tonight if Montreal beats Columbus.Ryder to Columbus.Purely for the playoffs.

]]> By: Don Carnage http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45170 Don Carnage Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:51:16 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45170 And the days go by!!! And the days go by!!!

]]> By: Senet 1 http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45168 Senet 1 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:22:39 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45168 There is only one player out there that may be available that I would consider based on a 7M contract and that is Lacavalier. If we cannot make a trade for him I would not trade for other players if I have to give them that kind of salary. I am not sure what Hossa is asking in his new contract request but hopefully not more than 5M. I would hate to make a trade for him if I cannot be assured of signing him. Unfortunately Ryder has to go, I agree he will not sign in Montreal next year. There is only one player out there that may be available that I would consider based on a 7M contract and that is Lacavalier. If we cannot make a trade for him I would not trade for other players if I have to give them that kind of salary.

I am not sure what Hossa is asking in his new contract request but hopefully not more than 5M. I would hate to make a trade for him if I cannot be assured of signing him.

Unfortunately Ryder has to go, I agree he will not sign in Montreal next year.

]]> By: Senet 1 http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45167 Senet 1 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:51:29 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45167 It seems just when we start to write someone off they start playing the way we expected them to play all year. Koivu, Higgins and especially Ryder are prime examples of this. Ryder finally discovers that if he shoots the puck at the net it will go in and so he has started to score. His goal almost helped us pull out another come back last night against Pittsburg. On the other hand Huet did not look good in the net last night there were a couple of pretty soft goals where he just did not control the rebounds. After taking a 4-3 lead we should have won that game, but our defense got a little sloppy where as they should have been protecting that one goal lead in the third. Getting back to Ryder, His market value should have gone up in the last two weeks and maybe since he is a UFA this summer he will have to be moved because after this season I doubt he will want to go through the uncertainty again next year. Hopefully, Gainey can use his good play to his advantage. Now back to Huet, he is a UFA at the end of the year, he sees the writing on the wall with two very good yound goalies in the system. He will not sign with us, that is why I would make a pitch to tampa Bay who needs a goalie maybe we could pry one of their top stars away. Lecavilier would be nice but St. Louis could not hurt. My only problem with everyone but Lacavilier is I have a hard time justifying the salary in or around 6-8M. Although a as habs fan since the 1950's I do not think we have a goal tending problem, our yound kids are good and yes they will have some bad games. I would love to see us win the Cup this year but this organization has been gearing toward the 2008-2009 season our 100th anniversary. What better present for the fans than to give them a Cup in the year of our anniversary. That is why I would not trade for Sundin unless he is willing to sign a contract nor would I trade for anyone else if we cannot get a guarantee that they will sign a contract for next year. We do not need rent a players we need to improve towards next year. Any trades should be geared towards improving the team long run not short run. It seems just when we start to write someone off they start playing the way we expected them to play all year. Koivu, Higgins and especially Ryder are prime examples of this. Ryder finally discovers that if he shoots the puck at the net it will go in and so he has started to score. His goal almost helped us pull out another come back last night against Pittsburg. On the other hand Huet did not look good in the net last night there were a couple of pretty soft goals where he just did not control the rebounds. After taking a 4-3 lead we should have won that game, but our defense got a little sloppy where as they should have been protecting that one goal lead in the third. Getting back to Ryder, His market value should have gone up in the last two weeks and maybe since he is a UFA this summer he will have to be moved because after this season I doubt he will want to go through the uncertainty again next year. Hopefully, Gainey can use his good play to his advantage. Now back to Huet, he is a UFA at the end of the year, he sees the writing on the wall with two very good yound goalies in the system. He will not sign with us, that is why I would make a pitch to tampa Bay who needs a goalie maybe we could pry one of their top stars away. Lecavilier would be nice but St. Louis could not hurt. My only problem with everyone but Lacavilier is I have a hard time justifying the salary in or around 6-8M.
Although a as habs fan since the 1950′s I do not think we have a goal tending problem, our yound kids are good and yes they will have some bad games. I would love to see us win the Cup this year but this organization has been gearing toward the 2008-2009 season our 100th anniversary. What better present for the fans than to give them a Cup in the year of our anniversary. That is why I would not trade for Sundin unless he is willing to sign a contract nor would I trade for anyone else if we cannot get a guarantee that they will sign a contract for next year. We do not need rent a players we need to improve towards next year. Any trades should be geared towards improving the team long run not short run.

]]> By: patrick http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45164 patrick Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:34:42 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45164 for richards i think it'll take more then Ryder/Huet, they're both going to be ufa's! maybe halak, chipchura, and i don't know, something else. tampa will be thinking long term. for richards i think it’ll take more then Ryder/Huet, they’re both going to be ufa’s! maybe halak, chipchura, and i don’t know, something else. tampa will be thinking long term.

]]> By: BarrieHabFan http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45163 BarrieHabFan Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:27:32 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45163 I've stated several times that I think Ryder will be traded. Even though I though I hope he's traded so that Montreal gets an upgrade on the top lines I'd like to see him go somewhere where he would do well. Where do you think Ryder would fit in, personally, I think he would do well in Toronto or Calgary. I’ve stated several times that I think Ryder will be traded. Even though I though I hope he’s traded so that Montreal gets an upgrade on the top lines I’d like to see him go somewhere where he would do well. Where do you think Ryder would fit in, personally, I think he would do well in Toronto or Calgary.

]]> By: BarrieHabFan http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-2/#comment-45162 BarrieHabFan Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:24:34 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45162 Probably right HJ. I don't think Tanguay wants to play in Montreal. And I don't think Sundin is going to waive his no trade agreement. If Gainey is making a move he is most likely going to get Hossa, or go for the addition of a couple of lesser players to improve the quality of the depth on the team and perhaps fill an area that needs addressing such as penalty killing or faceoffs. Don't be surprised to see a smaller deal to bring Fedorov, Perrault, or Stoll and possibly the addition of someone who would cost a third or less draft pick such as Recchi. I think the additon of one or two cup winners would be great. Players with playoff experience would be huge for the younger players on the habs. Probably right HJ. I don’t think Tanguay wants to play in Montreal. And I don’t think Sundin is going to waive his no trade agreement. If Gainey is making a move he is most likely going to get Hossa, or go for the addition of a couple of lesser players to improve the quality of the depth on the team and perhaps fill an area that needs addressing such as penalty killing or faceoffs. Don’t be surprised to see a smaller deal to bring Fedorov, Perrault, or Stoll and possibly the addition of someone who would cost a third or less draft pick such as Recchi. I think the additon of one or two cup winners would be great. Players with playoff experience would be huge for the younger players on the habs.

]]> By: HJ http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-1/#comment-45161 HJ Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:01:12 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45161 I think Jokinen is going to SJ. why? because they're offering Marleau and Carle, just what Florida will need to replace their center. And don't be surprised if Sundin is NOT traded. As far as the habs are concerned, a player like Gratton would help. he's a big strong center, who can win faceoffs and score some goals. I also think, that unless Tanguay waives his no trade contract, we're not getting him. Besides, he already said he didn't want to play in Montreal! Brad Richards for Huet and Ryder and a pick? maybe I think Jokinen is going to SJ. why? because they’re offering Marleau and Carle, just what Florida will need to replace their center. And don’t be surprised if Sundin is NOT traded. As far as the habs are concerned, a player like Gratton would help. he’s a big strong center, who can win faceoffs and score some goals. I also think, that unless Tanguay waives his no trade contract, we’re not getting him. Besides, he already said he didn’t want to play in Montreal! Brad Richards for Huet and Ryder and a pick? maybe

]]> By: Donnie http://www.habsblog.com/the-habs/eastern-promise/comment-page-1/#comment-45160 Donnie Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:24:27 +0000 http://www.habsblog.com/2008/02/21/eastern-promise/#comment-45160 Honestly, I hate to see Ryder go.....he will bounce back somewhere else and it's a shame it's not gonna be with us......but putting those feelings aside, I think we should trade him. I really believe that Ryder wants to leave now, with the reasons being his....and because of his UFA status after this year, he will sign somewhere else absolutely....and Gainey doesn't want it to be another Souray, where we lose another player who has had impact and get nothing in return. This year also, our playoff status is a little more set than last year...so he's not gonna hold onto a player (like he did with Souray) because we may have a chance for 8th. The Newfie in me wants Ryder to stay.....I will continue to follow his progress where ever he goes and root for him...we get so few players from our province making it this big.......but the die-hard Hab fan in me knows we have to trade him to improve this teams chances of glory again. So yes, unfortunately, he must be traded. Honestly, I hate to see Ryder go…..he will bounce back somewhere else and it’s a shame it’s not gonna be with us……but putting those feelings aside, I think we should trade him. I really believe that Ryder wants to leave now, with the reasons being his….and because of his UFA status after this year, he will sign somewhere else absolutely….and Gainey doesn’t want it to be another Souray, where we lose another player who has had impact and get nothing in return. This year also, our playoff status is a little more set than last year…so he’s not gonna hold onto a player (like he did with Souray) because we may have a chance for 8th.
The Newfie in me wants Ryder to stay…..I will continue to follow his progress where ever he goes and root for him…we get so few players from our province making it this big…….but the die-hard Hab fan in me knows we have to trade him to improve this teams chances of glory again. So yes, unfortunately, he must be traded.

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