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- Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - Sure, the only player I'd say who is untradeable (meaning I wouldn't trade no matter what) is Carey Price. You build a winning team from the net out, and I don't think there's a better goalie for his age in the NHL than Price, so I wouldn't trade him. Otherwise, every player would be open for offers, but for PK Subban, it would take (for me) an already established star, like Carter or Crosby or Ovechkin. As much as I like Ovechkin, I'm not sure he could handle all the media pre
- goalie : I'm not suggesting at all that we judst dump or get rid of PK. I do however believe that he is a very valued commodity in the NHL adn that the Habs will receive offers for his services. If someone ffers us young, strong, puck handling forwards who can score, I think the Habs have to look at that possible trade.
- Avatar37 : Agreed. It would be a big mistake to trade PK just to move up 2 spots in the draft. PK, Emelin, and Gorges are the bright future of our defense.
- Senet1 : I am with you Avatar, Subban stays, it is not often that you get a stud defenceman who can play 25+ minutes. The mistakes he makes are for the most part not that serious and people forget he is only 23 and been in the league 2 years. He has come a long way in those two years. He has offense, defence and he hits. You cannot bet much better than that. Two more years experience and he has a shot at the Norris. If Markov does anything I hope he teaches PK how to work the PP.
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- Avatar37 : round exit. Heck, even the year they won the cup we almost took them out in round 1. I believe in the corps of this team, I really think we just need a few tweaks. Adding Larry Robinson to run the defense would be a BIG help, keep Cunneyworth as offensive coach, and get a head coach who can get these guys back on the right path. We need to establish an identity again, a team that won't let itself be pushed around like it was under Martin. A few scrappers on this team and we'll be good to
- Avatar37 : Yeah, the only way I'd trade PK is if we were getting an established star in return, like Carter or Crosby. I don't think we're miles away from competing deep into the playoffs, the NHL has become so competitive because of the salary cap that really there aren't huge differences between the teams. Add into the equation the stupid scoring system (some games worth 2 points, some 3) that the standings don't truly reflect where teams should really be. Look at Boston, cup winners to first rou
- Senet1 : It would have to be something pretty special before I would trade PK. To me he is the #1 building block of our defence. I would trade any other defenceman we have before I would trade PK.
- Senet1 : An improvement in our offense and strengthening our defence. Personally, I do not think we are that far off, five players at best could get us there. One thing that has always been true about the playoffs, Defence wins and you need a strong 3rd and 4th line.
- goalie : I'm more optimistic now about the Habs than I have been for the past three dreadfully long seasons!
- goalie : 2: I think GM Bergevin will make somewhat of a 'blockbuster't rade either before or on the day of the draft adn I believe PK Subban will be in that package. WE have t rememebr we have to give away some talent to get back other talent. No one wants players like Moen to move up in the draft etc.
- goalie : Some thoughts:The more I see the playoffs it becomes even more obvious that we're miles away from being able to 'compete' dep into the playoffs
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- Senet1 : Young Subban might also be an option if the Russian goalie is not available. However, to me I would wait another year and attempt to use my draft 2nd round draft picks to improve out forward situation.
- Senet1 : Although Rinne contact is another example of long term at the wrong time. He is 29 years old. A case could be made with Price that double his money now with bonuses if we win the cup, I think that is still allowed in contracts?
- Senet1 : Problem is he is going to want Pekka Rinne money and term. That is closer to 7M. On the other hand, the contract could have step up clauses in it over the 7 years.
- Avatar37 : With Price, I wouldn't blink twice about offering him a 7 year contract now, especially if he'd be willing to give up dollar value for length. 7 years at $5.5 million a year would be just fine in my book.
- Avatar37 : I think the goaltending void in our current system would push me to draft Vasilevski with our second pick, if he was available. He's young and has lots of potential, but is at least 5-6 years away from starting to be ready to play on an NHL roster.
- Senet1 : Long tern contracts are a risk, but if you have a super star not as much. Luongo's contract was long term but signed too late in his career.
- Avatar37 : Senet - Yes, you were clear in your post, my question was directed at goalie. I'm with you in that I'd be willing to sign him to a 7 year contract. I'd be nervous about anything longer, because every single long term goalie contract I can think of turned out to be a disaster for the team signing it.
- Senet1 : I think that Budaj is a better goalie than many give him credit for, is he a Price no but with a tight defence he could be a good goalie. Many teams have average goalies but have great defence and still win. Look at Detroit, for years they have had average goaltending, but won cups. Goalies can get on a roll in the playoffs, look at Huet as an example, he was not really a good goalie but played great in the playoffs, next year he was a wash. Defence makes the goalie a winner, just ask Price.
- Senet1 : Having a young equivalent goalie in the system right now is not important, three years from now it will be, so we have three years to make that kind of move in the draft. I think we have more pressing needs aat the moment.
- Senet1 : Personally, I do not see this as a negative because of Price's age, you wait to draft a goalie of a Patrick Roy or Brodeur some teams wait a life time. To me we have on so why would we want to not play that out for as long as we can. Bottom line is this, regardless, right now you have a stud goalie, you are either going to pay him the money he deserves for not sign him and lose him. There is no middle of the road here.
- goalie : Avatar made a great point. We don't have an NHL or up adn coming NHL goalies in our system. Another great move by Gauthier. Price is sitting very pretty.
- goalie : WEll Price has us by the nads. I guess I'd have to go as far as a 7 year contract due to his play adn his age.
- Senet1 : Luongo is now 33, he has been a good goaltender for a number of years. I would sign Price for 7 years and at age 31 then we deal with UFA at that time. Hopefully, we could provide him with another 5 years at that time. That is my opinion anyway, I would never risk losing him as a UFA at this point in his career to me that would be a very poor management decision. Even a 10 year contract would put him only at 34 years old. If you are going to sign him to long term now is the time.
- Senet1 : If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him a contract that is worthy of his abilities and his potential. It can have escalation clauses or reducing clauses like Kovalchuk's contract.
- Senet1 : Avatar, I thought I was clear Yes I would sign him long term. My previous post said. The problem is if you have a out in the contract after 5 years then the player also has an out after 5 years. So no self respected lawyer would accept a contract that did not have equal escape clauses. So no I would not sign only for 5 years, if Price was 28 years old yes but not a 24. Seven years still only makes him 31 when the contract is over. If you have a young stud you have to gamble a little and give him
- Avatar37 : Cammalleri trade. Given the fact that we have no NHL starting quality goaltenders in the system currently, aren't we held hostage to having to sign Price?
- Avatar37 : There are many bad goalie contracts, just look at Huet. However, your post didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with Price. He's an RFA now, but for argument sake, if he were a UFA, what would you do? If he wanted a 7+ year contract, you know some other team would give him one. Would you risk losing him for nothing because you didn't want to sign a contract over 5 years? And if we lose Price, our goalies are Budaj and Robert Mayer, as we sent Karri Ramo to the Flames in the Cam
- goalie : .. a 5 years contract again based upon the experience he has had AND he likes Bobby Lou!
- goalie : Ditto for Philly, Ther goaltender 'situations' have both become the number 1 story line for both teams, and in Vancouver one could see the exaspiration on Gillis' adn to some extent Vigneault's faces when continously being bombarded by the loooong term contract that the Canucks are stuct with. (Gillis even said last February or so, thank goodness it looks like more than few other teams will be looking for a starting goaltender for 2012-13. He said he would never again do more than a 5 year c
- goalie : I've spent the past four winters in BC thus I am very aware of the Canucks situations. I'd first say I give Gillis adn Vigneault 100% credit for being VERY supportive of Roberto L. even when Corey Schenider has vastly out played him. (I too like Bobby Lou but facts are facts).
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December 27, 2007 at 7:46 pm
The Lighting play out of St.Petersburg. Why is the team called Tampbay Lighting?
Where does The Panthers play out of?
December 27, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Sunrise, Florida. I think.
December 27, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Well well,I see the Habs are in Florida”suntanning,swimming,beachbumming,cheaking out the curves”relaxing like they do while playing HOCKEY!!!!And what’s with Carbo sitting Chipcura and playing Ryder”coach has taken way too many pucks in the head” ,what kind of system is it that when you SUCK you get to play and when your a first year,+1 forward who is playing well then you get the press box???That is so GOOFEY CARBO!!!!YOU NEED ONE OF THOSE COACHING FOR IDIOTS BOOKS BUDs!!!lol
December 27, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Your silly if you think Ryder is in any new plans…he’s got to be shipped and that means displaying whatever gifts he has…right now that’s not too good.
Besides, the team has to clobber Tampa Bay as they have either Vinny or Richards or St. Louis and the Canadiens could/should be exploring any potential trades with them. Could see Ryder Huet combo for a Lecavalier or St. Louis and a throw-in (maybe backup goalie)…in the near future. Hope so anyways. Go Habs Go!
December 27, 2007 at 8:40 pm
How about displaying Ryder at the edge of the Grand Canyon and then give him a push,lol
December 27, 2007 at 8:59 pm
I like that one, xtrahabsfan. Ha ha ha! good one. yes, Ryder only playing to be displayed for a trade to any team for a bag of pucks, because that’s all he’s worth.
December 27, 2007 at 11:18 pm
They were on fire tonight and Ryder still managed to end up a -2. Ryder, Huet and that sloppy O’Byrne to Tampa for Lecavier!
December 27, 2007 at 11:57 pm
You guys are smoking some bad dope if you think Tampa Bay is ever going
to trade Vinny for a couple minor leaguers, even if Huet is included that
is not going to make the trade happen. You can dream, but it is quite unrealistic.
December 28, 2007 at 12:01 am
O’Byrne has got to use his size and weight out there!!!!! He looks lost a lot out there. Ryder still can’t do anything..other then them I think they played pretty well. Not a perfect game (last few min.) but over all they played a pretty good road game..Look out for a collapse in the Florida game tomorrow(HOPE NOT)…GO HABS GO
December 28, 2007 at 12:01 am
Your a SICK *** to even joke about pushing someone over a cliff.
December 28, 2007 at 12:08 am
The Habs will have to give up a lot for that to happen. Habs do not have what TB would be looking to get for Vinny. The only one I could see the Habs get would be Richards. But still is not what the fans want. There probably will be a trade soon but not what we all want and if it is for any of the players that Habs fans are after don’t get mad at what BG. has to give up for him…
(WE PRETTY MUCH ALL HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR A TOP CENTER AND WE WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP A BLUE CHIP OR TWO TO GET IT).
December 28, 2007 at 12:38 am
once and for all: ANYONE WHO THINKS WE WOULD EVER GET LECAVALIER IS A TOTAL IDIOT! IT’S NEVER EVER EVER GOING TO HAPPEN! GIVE IT UP!
December 28, 2007 at 12:41 am
Like I said we do not have what they want…. The only way to get Vinny is when his contract is up and even then it wont happen…..
December 28, 2007 at 1:23 am
DTD ,how do you know he didn’t have a lanyard on”bundge”,lol.Anywho you have made your despleasure known,NOW GO GET LAYED and SMOKE A FATTY !!!LOL
December 28, 2007 at 1:54 am
I’d be willing to throw Koivu and Huet to Tampa along with Ryder for Lecavier – that sounds like a realistic offer to me. Tampa needs a number one man in nets and Koivu fills the hole that Vinny would leave better then most. Saku is having a tough time really getting going this year and, while Price still needs some work, he would more then do as our number one.
December 28, 2007 at 4:28 pm
why can’t they put ryder on the powerplay since we know he can’t play defence, or play and up and down system where he has a player play defense for him, maybe then he’ll get going
December 28, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Ryder is playing well tonight.. Maybe a boost of confidence will do him good..
Reminds me of the clamor to trade the “Slow” Portuguese guys.. Maybe the decision makers are the slow ones.. Yes Ryder has his defensive struggles.. Maybe some real coaching would help.. And a little confidence..
Sorry I like the guy..
December 28, 2007 at 9:23 pm
huet is #1.The guys play with more confidence with huet in nets.
December 28, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Yeah I agree, but with only a one year contract maybe the writings been on the wall from the beginning of the season. He’s been a streaky player, but the fair trade value on him (considering the contract situation) is a low first round pick. To achieve that we have to play him, get him some stats, he needs pp time.
December 28, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Kovalev sucks on the PP lately. He gave up the puck 3 times on the 4 min PP tonight..
December 28, 2007 at 11:24 pm
It has been fun in florida.go habs go.
December 28, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Two wins in Florida and 7 out of a possible 10 points on the christmas road trip……………………….and Ryder scored a goal! Ladies and Gentlemen hell has indeed frozen over. Although I loved that “I’m so smart” self-satisfied look on Carbo’s face after Koustopolous scored the fourth goal. Kinda funny
December 29, 2007 at 12:27 am
A great holiday present for all Habs fans,hell even Ryder scored”that won’t happen for another 15 games”Gooooo Habs!
December 29, 2007 at 1:01 am
They were out shot AGAIN but all in all a good road trip thus far. O’Byrne starting to use he size a bit more tonight GOOD TO SEE .Maybe the turning point of the season and for Ryder…. lets hope so. GO HABS GO
December 29, 2007 at 3:21 am
Ryder looked very good today, hopefully that sticks. 3-1-1 now on this road trip with a planned tromping in New York on Sunday
December 29, 2007 at 9:22 am
Trade Price, Ryder and someone else.(fill in blank)O for Lecavalier or Ovechkin..that’s right I said it>? Why ? Cause Huet is a freakin superstar and would be twice as good if he played ALL the games..his save percentage is nearly tops in the leage..that is the only true stat which tells you how good your goalie is…he is outshot everygame and he rarely if ever lets in more than 2 goals and his % is always 930 or over…he;s another allstar, who is 31..not 40 which means he is in his prime and could be a star for another 5-6 years!..we don;t need Price…we have a reliable back up in halak….Be realistic….in order yo get that superstar power forward we all know we need..we have to be prepared to give up someone huge!…I love price but hes young and unproven in the nhl….but Huet is a superstar//so play his *** all the time,, bring up halak and offer price to get the superstar we always dreamed…of…many of you will call me crazy but it’s time we played for the “now” (next 3 years) instead of the future..i don’;t care how good price will be….we arne’;t gonna win a cup building around him with the clowns we have up front
December 29, 2007 at 11:55 am
Price wouldn’t be enough for either of those 2.
December 29, 2007 at 11:56 am
oh, and where are all the haters?
December 29, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Iceburg14, in order to get Lecavalier or OVECHKIN ,we would have to give up
rice,Higgins,Saku and Komasarik and throw Ryder in just to sweetin the pot.
December 29, 2007 at 6:07 pm
O’Byrne out with a broken thumb. He was sent back to Montreal today.
December 29, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Toronto is being blown away by NYR tonight. yahoo!
December 30, 2007 at 1:32 am
And Ottawa took a crazy loss to Washington – good for us, we just need to stomp the Rangers tomorrow!
December 30, 2007 at 2:04 am
Tampa isn’t going anywhere without goaltending…they have to be interested. I don’t think it would cost that much. Mind you Patrick Marleau in San Jose is a sleeper…Ryder might be the right bait.
Also, Washington would be looking for some draft picks and goaltending help. The Rangers are coming around…wonder which Habs team will show up.
I also think that Koivu would be better off some where else and shipping him and Ryder might be the right mix to bring in a top forward and draft picks.
Besides got to give the young guns the time and space to play and shine. That’s why we got them. So give them the opportunity. Let’s go….keep it up and press forget the lay back and let them keep coming. Teams like Ottawa, Carolina, Anaheim, NJersey and Detroit will eat them alive. Go Habs Go!
December 30, 2007 at 2:56 am
don’t trade koivu hes been a solid player on this team for the past 12 years.
and great game last night scoring from every line !
December 30, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Ithink it’s time to trade Kovalev while he’s having a very good season along with Ryder and Huet.There’s good trade bait there FOR A GREAT BIG POWER FOWARD.
December 30, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Lets win against Newyork and go farther away from toronto and Boston in the standings. Last year we sucked in the middle of the season and this year we have two good wins after christmas and lets keep it going!