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Ex-Habs 2005-2006 
The 2005/2006 Montreal Canadiens have seen a lot of changes since the first game of their season.
Most notable the trading of one time hero goaltender Jose Theodore and the firing of Head Coach Claude Julien.
Other Canadiens like Pierre Dagenais got a permanent ticket away from the club and NHL.
Months after, do you agree with these moves? More importantly what other pictures will soon be added to the above?
With new management, new funds, and possibly the most open NHL market ever seen some current Canadiens will surely not be around come training camp.
Who stays? Who goes?
I’ll take a stab at the first player not returning next year.
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- goalie : Great to see Pacs gets su=ome success after the devestating dirty check last season that could have paralyzed him for life.
- goalie : Given ho the team has played this season one thing in our favor is that we pretty much need to clean house. Other than about 6-7 guys everyone else would be available in my mind.
- goalie : After how the tes]am has
- Avatar37 : Apparently only one offer for Carter on the low side so far, I think Montreal would be foolish not to investigate the possibility of a trade for him, and if there is low interest, the deal might be able to include moving Gomez. Gomez/Darche/Cam poli and a third round pick? Maybe not, but I'd be in serious talks with Columbus right about now.
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- Avatar37 : for him had we held on to him until now and created a bidding war. There are more buyers than sellers currently on the market and it would have been the perfect time to have traded him.
- Avatar37 : Goalie - I'm not sure how we could have obtained more for Halak. We showcased him, everyone knew he was available for trade, and in the end, we took the best offer. Any asset is only worth what a purchaser will pay for it. The Halak trade wasn't like the Cammalleri trade where you had GMs afterwards saying they didn't even know he was on the market. The Halak trade was done properly, the Cammelleri trade was a knee-jerk panic move, and while my opinion is that we could have received more
- Avatar37 : I saw the game, the Islanders first goal came from a shot that was clearly above the height of the crossbar. How is it possible for a play to go to review where they have the advantage of mulitple camera angles and the ability to pause and they STILL get the call wrong?
- goalie : I agree don't get dilusional over our three game winning streak. Changes MUST be made. I am however, glad to see the effort being put forth by the players.
- Mats Naslund : I just went to capgeek to see who the Avalanche might be dealing for a rental - and I see they have only 6 players signed for next season!!! There are a couple young D men on that squad who are RFAs who would do very nicely next season.
- Mats Naslund : One thing I know - the 3 game winning streak had better not get PG thinking about holding onto guys for a PO run. Trade them, build the value and move on to next year.
- Mats Naslund : How about Max Pac though.. 21 goals and on pace for 65 points this year. That is absolutely monster for a guy at his age/experience and especially coming after a horrific injury. Huge cornerstone moving forward. On pace for 33 goals.. could he get 35?
- Mats Naslund : Didn't get to see it either - and while I don't really care about the win, I am very glad that Gomez scored so we don't have to endure all of the negativity in the media about him for the rest of the year. He still su@ks, but at least it won't be a topic every shift he takes.
- goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
- Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
- Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
- goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
- Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
- Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
- Avatar37 : «link»
- Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
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- Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
- Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
- Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
- Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
- goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
- goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
- goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
- goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
- Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
- Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
- Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
- Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
- rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
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May 10, 2006 at 11:50 am
Mikey Ribs shown in his true form. Go whine every shift and get nailed every time you have the puck. I actually look forward to seeing you get run over by **insert any NHL player name here** YOU CAN’T TAKE A HIT. You are a lucky scorer, from soccer player to hockey player.
After putting on that show in the pic, didn’t you come back to play in the game? Probably the next shift. Hopefully it’s the last time I see you a Habs jersey you wanna be gangsta.
May 10, 2006 at 11:52 am
Rather than who won’t return, why not flip it around to who do you want to keep Higgins, Ryder, Koivu, Aebischer, Huet, Zednik, Souray (ouch!). Start with the core nucleus and build from there adding a Teemu Selanne, Todd Bertuzzi (there’s a thought). I suspect that some Avalanche types may well be available Tanguay, matter of fact there is a rumour that Peter Forsberg doesn’t like Bobby Clarke so it is a whole new ballgame with fresh dough to spend keeping only very limited protected core group. Behind the bench maybe Larry Robinson might be insterested in helping out his old captains with an assistants job. Or….look deeply into where the Penguins are marching and make a deal for Sidney, somebody will and soon too!They need a team and we need a superstar.
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May 10, 2006 at 12:21 pm
The moves definately improved the team. If They had kept Julien and Theodore, the team wouldnt have made the playoffs at all.
As for players leaving. Ribiero for sure and Zednik and Bonk. Those were the 3 main cancers of the team. The Defense is fine with Sourey, Markov, Rivet, Boullion, Komisarek, Dandaneult and Streit are fine.
Interesting additions there Michael. Tanguay would be fabulous but Bertuzzi would be a disaster. The press would rip him apart.
May 10, 2006 at 4:15 pm
I say trade Aebischer, Ribiero, Zednik, and Souray for
Lecavalier.
Then try to get a defenceman from free agency.
May 10, 2006 at 5:08 pm
I think bonk is worth keeping. His play has really picked up.Good on the pk KEEP HIM
May 10, 2006 at 5:26 pm
joey,
i love lecavalier’s spirit and heart (and when he went up against chara just toped it off) but i don’t think he’s worth four players. plus, if not for souray than we’ve got no one to score from the point. i see you mentioned getting another D man but then we’d be in the same situation again with a shortage of decent guys on the PP.
it would be nice to get a new D who could score from the line AND stop someone from going around him (since we all know souray had his less than glamorous moments this year on the one-on-ones.
GO HABS GO! we’ve matched the longest non-stanley cup draught in our history…let’s not break the record.
May 10, 2006 at 5:59 pm
Remember that Gainey’s GM roots were in Dallas so some Stars could be available. There are rumours that he is interested in Arnott and maybe the return of Robidas.
Also rumours that Habs could be interested in players such as Elias and Straka.
Any thoughts?
May 10, 2006 at 6:15 pm
fan3,
First of all, Souray has a lot of talent, but he is injury prone, tends to make a lot of mistakes, and is not stable familywise. He is the kinda of guy that the minute you think he will have a big season, something happens and he ruins it. In two years he will be worth nothing….. Right now, his worth is at an all time high. This is why we should trade him. As for Ribiero, and Zednik both had bad years, and we may lose them for nothing…. So, what are we giving up when I say to trade Aebischer, Ribiero, Zednik, and Souray for Lecavalier. Not much considering what we will be getting.
We kinda lost Theodore for nothing.. Lets not make the same mistake twice. Right now Aebischer and Souray are worth their max. Ribiero is not worth that much. And Zednik might be worth keeping, but I don’t think we can get Lecavalier without him….
May 10, 2006 at 6:26 pm
Bonk only woke up once the playoffs started- we need someone who will play like he means it in the 82 games leading up to the playoffs. What use are playoff players if you have to struggle just to make the playoffs. Zednik has a similar M.O. The truth is, I really like both of those guys when they play to their capabilities, but we dont get to see that until March-April. F**k that. We can afford to put a nice package together for someone who needs a goalie and a zippy forward or two and wants to loose a mega-buck mega-star. Philly and Vancouver come to mind. I am no expert on these matters and make no pretence to be, but the weak links in the Hab chain are pretty obvious- lets lose ‘em and bring in someone who wants to play for the greatest organization in the history of the sport.
May 10, 2006 at 7:50 pm
I agree with PS – keep Bonk. He played very well down the stretch. He was really fruustrating to watch the first half of the year, but he picked it up at the end. Getting rid of Bonk would be tough b/c of his poor year. Therefore, we would likely have to give him away – not worth it.
We need a centre – Ribs is a bum and should go. Also, we need D. I don’t think we are good enough on the back end. Souray is an offensive weapon for sure and it is nice to have the shot on the PP, but he is not a #1 D in this NHL. Markov is a keeper, so it Boulion, Komi and Rivet (b/c of leadership, work ethic, and friend of Saku).
So, Vinny would be a great catch if we could make a deal but don’t count on it. I also don’t think Tampa will let Richards go (I am from PEI and would love to see him on the habs – by far the best player to come from PEI). However, if anyone of the “Big three” leaves Tampa it will be S. Louis.
PLEASE DON’T TOUCH BERTUZZI!!!!!!!!
May 10, 2006 at 8:01 pm
Hmmmm i wonder if we could sneak zherdev in a hans uni.I really like that kid,but at what cost?
May 10, 2006 at 8:02 pm
lol sorry “HABS UNI”
May 11, 2006 at 12:15 am
What about the youngs ?
That’s what Gainey said and I believe that’s the right way. I hope the Montreal Team is REALLY thinking of the youngs.
Check out the teams that are playing well in the playoff right now, Anaheim and Buffalo is full of young rookie player. That,s the way to go.
With the salary, etc… it’s hard to get really TOP player without having a hole anywhere in your team. If you get a big Goaler, you will have trouble in offense, if you get a SuperScorer you will have a hole in your defense. So you have to gamble with things, make it so-so everywhere and hope some youngs stand-up and play well at the right time. That’s the way to win, nothing else.
No team will trade a Top-Player for 4 other guys, cause they don’t need them, you can get that type of player anywhere as free-agents so. You have to make the move and get the player here.
With nearly 90cent canadian the US dollar, hope it’s help get some player out here instead of going for the states.
May 11, 2006 at 2:21 am
We need to trade 1 of the goalies, Zednik, Sundstrom, Ribeiro and Bulis (free agent) to make a serious run for the cup.
Team needs are:
1. second line centre man (free agent’s that would fit the team) Jason Arnott, Marc Savard or Brad Richards
2. A true #1 D-Man – Redden, Jovo or Chara (would love Jovo. Souray is a liability and only good on the power play. Markov is not consistant and a no show in the playoffs)
3. A “BIG TIMEâ€? scoring winger – Bertuzzi (don’t like Burt but he would really help, Selanie or Elias would fit that profile (maybe trade for St.Louis or Vinny in Tampa, they need a goalie)
JULY !st = FREE AGENCY the holes will be fixed. GO HABS GO BABY!
May 11, 2006 at 4:19 pm
J-Nic’s right about the youngsters, esp bringing some up from the minors. The realities of the salary cap almost dictate that you get some cheap, yong players on the roster. Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Danis and Chipchura could all make the team next year. Some veterans and their veteran salaries like Aebischer, Ribeiro, Sundstrom and Bulis may have to go — esp if the Habs want to sign a second line center and/or a first line right winger (would love to Selanne and Koivu together again). Signing Huet won’t come cheap either.
We might see something like the following line combos next year:
Higgins-Koivu-Selanne?
Kovalev-Plekanec-Ryder
Zednik-Bonk-Latendresse
Begin-Chipchura-Murray
Chipchura adds some size up the middle. Zednik proved his worth as an aggressive forechecker, if not scorer. And Plekanec may have been the best offensive center against the Canes. And we gotta keep Bonk. He can’t score either, but does a helluva job on the PK.
Agree that our d is probably good enough, but there isn’t much young talent to replenish it anyway. We lost Hainsey and Beauchemin on waivers to Columbus — that hurt a lot.
May 11, 2006 at 5:23 pm
i agree with some of you about getting rid of bulis because he even said that he wanted to leave but i trully believe that if we keep aebischer it would be good because he is a good goalie and it’s always good to have two good goalies and also i think that if we keep mike ribeiro and richard zednik it would not be a bad idea because not only are they both good looking
but they are talented and they have the potential.. maybe they aren’t very confident with themselves and maybe they had a bad season but they need the chance to show what they can really do and i think that next season is the chance they need so we really need to keep them i really don’t want ribeiro to leave because i really like him!!:) we can’t forget that in 03-04 ribeiro was the best scorer of the team and before zedniks horrible injury in the playoffs with boston, he was extremely talented. i think that getting rid of Ribeiro and zednik would be a huge mistake because they have a big and good bond with the team and i think that getting rid of them is a mistake… we should keep them till the next trading deadline in the next season and then if they don’t improve we can then get rid of them but that’s just my opinion so someone please write back to me (melissa) and tell me what you think aout my message!! thanks
GO HABS GO and hope to see ribeiro and zednik with the habs next year
trust me it won’t be a mistake…
May 14, 2006 at 10:06 am
hopefully we can add rebeiro’s pic to the list, he missed about 5 for sure goals vs. carolina and is hurting the team by taking up the second line centre spot and not doing anything…please trade him or just don’t sign him
GO HABS GO!!!
May 14, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Latendrasse? Think he’s ready? Jan Danis would make 3 goalies of merit and virtue on the roster (potential trade material), but I am curious as to what Carboneau wants in training camp. If one looks at what Bob Gainey has done with personel since the Kovalev acquisition, we all may be very surprised at both who stays and who goes. However, I am certain we won’t see a repeat of the “no significant off season moves” of the past. Incidently, did anyone notice how Theodore and Brisebois were liabilities as things heated up for Colorado. I wish those guys the best, and sure- they got to the second round and we didn’t, but THANK GOD THOSE FELLAS DON’T WEAR THE TRI COLOUR ANY LONGER!!!
May 14, 2006 at 9:20 pm
AMEN TO THAT
May 25, 2006 at 10:28 pm
We don’t NEED Redden, Jovo, Chara and especially Bertuzzi. Too much salary for their worth. Elias is in the same ‘camp’. Don’t NEED him either.
We’ve got good youngsters coming up for the offence. On defense, Salei, Mara, Morris & Brewer would do very well, thank you.
On offence, if someone would be worth consideration, I’d suggest Legwand. Not as big a scorer as some others but has potential and his salary demands would be more reasonable.
All of this is valid unless, of course, the stupid Brad Richards contract amount messes up the subsequent offers.
June 1, 2006 at 6:02 pm
WE NEED OVECHKIN HAHAHAHAHA… although it wont happen…
June 15, 2006 at 8:26 pm
What Montreal need is a number 1 center. With Koivu’s eye injury there is nothing that is concrete about him coming back in red-white-and-blue next year. And if is does come back, whoever we get can go on a line with Kovalev. He just has too much talent and nobody to play with. Gainey has to get rid of Aebishmuck…i mean Aebishear. He SUCKS!! No matter how much theo sucked this year he is still a better goaltender than Aebishear so in my opinion, montreal got the bad end of that deal. Gainey also has to be careful that he doesnt send off good players and ruin the team like they did in 1995 w/Patrick Roy. Best goalie of all time and we just GAVE him away to Colorado. Bonk proved himself in the playoffs and he is strong on the pk. Ribs SUCKS. He couldnt score a goal if the net was the size of the Bell Centre. How many times did he miss the net vs. Carolina….a hundred? And Zednik, don’t even get me started. He really sucks….him and bulis should go back to Washington.
June 25, 2006 at 9:20 pm
higgins,arnott?,kovelev for the first line
Habs might sign arnott
Bonk should be traded
June 25, 2006 at 9:25 pm
David ficher was that a smart move?
canadiens have young players so i think it was smart if you put him on the same line with koivu it , it should be good. cause it made a difference with higgins and ryder.
June 25, 2006 at 9:29 pm
huet one timer? nooooooooooooooooooooo it wont be like that huet iz going to unstoppable!