IZZY you missed stevejur… stevejur you should have put this deal in the ULTIMATE HAB TRADE for a chance to win the pot!

FORSBERG as a Hab for Plekanec is wrong!!!! F@CK FORSBERG AND HIS WONKY ANKEL,ONE puck in the foot and it’s over.

Here are the trades I believe can work. there are 3 scenarios: I really believe that Bertuzzi, because he is a power forward can help us. I would give up Ryder in an even exchange. I’m not sure what Ryder is making, but I don’t think the difference is that great. Also, LA trading Conroy for Plekanec. Yes, I know Conroy isn’t getting any younger, but I believe he can still help us.
Also, there’s the possibility we can do business with Tampa, getting Prospal for Rivet and throw in a draft pick. I don’t think Tampa will make the playoffs.
Sorry guys, I got alittle carried away . I know you only wanted to hear 1 trade,but I couldn’t decide.

I wouldn’t do much. Souray & Murray for lots of 2-3 high picks this year and next years draft. Souray is gone. Lets come to terms with it as much as I hate to say it!
My focus would be to make a run for the cup in the centennial year. We have some highly skilled players just on the edge of cracking the bigs. (Grabie, Lapierre, Kosty, maybe CHipchura).They will be good role players for “The Run”. Plus we know Plek and Perezogin can game it. Give Perz 1 more yr to prove himself.
LEt the high priced talent walk (Sammy and Kovy) to create cap room to potentially trade picks for a center and Dman next year. Get Center position set and bring on 2009.
We’re 3-4 big time players away from making a run. (realistically)
Patience

You’re right…Mea culpa. Let Sammy walk next year. Who knows; he may even start to bring value and then be able to get something for him.
Bottom line is that to win the cup you need players with a mix of talent and grit. Currently we mostly have players with talent (anyone with names ending in ‘ov’).To get the players you need will take some time.
Come on 2009!

Ooops I still have my PC set up to fake a Joshtm entry. That last proposals were mine.

the habs need a centre. im keep thinking about conroy for souray (since souray is gone at the end of the year)but does a rebuilding team like l.a. really want souray? we need to move souray even though hes an intricate part of the team. he wont resign. so i keep thinking about teams with a lot of centres who could use him. any thoughts? dallas has atleats 6 guys that can play centre and gainey loves to deal with his old team. maybe stu barnes whose stock is really low and a high draft pick or a defense prospect. does anyone know any centres available? id like to see Viktor Kozlov. the main problem is many teams still have a chance at making the playoffs and are hesitant to move any players. the salary cap is also a big problem. i remember hearing the habs have 2 million of cap space left. so unless they get rid of a few players they wont be able to afford forsberg (5.75 mil) or bertuzzi (5.3 million). personally id rather see the habs clear up salary space for lecavalier (6 million) instead of those older and often injured players (plus hes from mtl).

Look it,It’s beyond me after hearing SOURAY JUST STATE HE LOVES MONTREAL AND HE WANTS TO STAY why everybody wants to trade him. Love him or hate him ,he’s become our best player,not to mention he,s got size something lacking on the Habs D.PLUS HE’S GOT HEART AND LEADERSHIP. So let’s make room for him and Markov cause no other good D avalible and Souray has our only real blue line shot=100+ mph, come on ,let’s get real here!!!! This is the best team ever in pro hockey,not CIRC DE SOLEIL FOR **** SAKES.

* Forgot to mention Bonk, he’ s on his last year of his contract, and he turned out to be a totally different player than he was last year.

I do not want to trade him, but there is no garantee he’ll stay… I think people see him as a ticket to finding a superstar goal scorer to play in Montreal. And if we knew for sure what his status he wanted to play more in Montreal than more people would keep him off-limits on a trade. Also that would depend on what kind of money he is asking for…If we’re not willing to pay his demands, will his love Montreal be enough for him Stay? He is big but does not always play big in front of the net. Maybe because when he roughs up little forwards in up front he’ll find himself 2:00 in the box. Also he is slow on his feet, which is why he gets so many penalties trying to recover his defensive position. But what he is lacking on D he makes up for with the cannon from the line. Is he worth $5-6 Millon some people don’t believe so… I like him in Montreal and would like to see him with a more complimentary line mate… maybe a Boullion or Dandee whom are a little quicker and aggresive in the corners and in front of the net.

So basically I am not sure what to do with his situation. I think if we want to work toward a cup run I want him on the team. If we want to rebuild??? Things sparked a little before the break and I would like to see it continue. If higgy can find the touch our offense will be ok. He has nearly as many goals as our top scores but played 15 less games.

Ninimaa and Rivet are making 5M between the 2 of them this year. I say use at least part (or maybe all) of this to re-sign Souray and Markhov, while letting Ninimaa and Rivet walk. We can’t lose Markhov, and between Souray and Rivet, I would take Sheldon. This of course presumes Sheldon really does want to come back here.

I know the all-star game was shinny, but Souray looked much more comfortable than expected playing with all that other talent.

I felt the same way… I think he liked to playing in the fast “run and gun” type hockey. I think it fits his style. Traditional disaplined hockey trap hockey relys on patents to create oportunity on other peoples mistakes. Meaning alot of time working on puck control which is not his forte!

Habs linemates Mike Johnson and Radek Bonk are leading front-runners for the Frank J. Selke Trophy at this mid-season point…

By the way…..
Philly will be eating some of Forsberg’s contract.
In return Montreal will be dealing a quality player such as Perezhogin or Plekanec.

Anyways I don’t agree with this move, but as of right now we are the front runners.
I have this feeling that he’ll end up with the Rangers. They’ll probably move Prucka.

habrez, please explane why Souray would make the stament that he loves Montreal and wants to stay,while your reliable source state’s the other.WHO IS YOUR SOURCE habrez? SILVIA BROWNE, or is it IZZY’S golfing partner,” the police profiler”, or someone from Toronto,or was it Hockey fan STEVEN “P.M.”HARPER,or are u related to Sheldon or even better ,are you Sheldon Souray? Cause, I as well as the rest of the world,heard and saw different right from the horse’s patutute, Sourey!

sheesh, you guys have been busy!….just got back from halifax…set the timer in the car…been driving for 11 hours 24minutes and 03 secs…..

um…where did the Forsberg info/rumor come from again?…any link to something in print?

dont forget guys…seperate your fantasy ultimate trade wishes from who you think will really be moved.

pooped…ugh

Is it just me or shouldn’t Montreal have gotten Peter Forsberg in the Patrick Roy deal in ’96? It still makes me puke that for a superstar goalie and our team captain (Mike Keane), all Re-Gene Houle could get in return was Rucinsky, Kovalenko and Thibault… uggghhhh.

they’re even talking about it on rds this morning. They asked Carbs what he thought & he said that he had spoken to Bob, but that as a player he never asked too much, and now as a coach he doesnt ask any questions either. good deflection. I think something will happen today. Either the habs make a move or Bob has a press conference saying everything will stay status quo.

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I did put the 2 together on the Lecavier trade and did not consider 1/2 through the season. I did not think as the 2nd trade as contingent on the 1st… my apologies!

I still sthink my Ultimate Hab trade makes more sense than all the other one!
Lol!

Yeah, I know they can probably wait out the rest of the Year and have a field day in the Free Agent market to build a D with the Cap room they have… but he is the type of player want to see on the Habs. Maybe in a few years when Pitt comes of age, and these guy start demanding some real $$$. If we do trade it will probably be for Conroy or Stumpel.

It may be that Gainey has nothing left in him and we will stay the course and finish fifth this year and maybe six next year. Probably will make some minor changes in the summer to clear out the rookie pool and buck up the Dogs. The Dogs seem to be Gainey’s priority.

Let’s hope for the habs 100 year and the year of the all stars that we get a decent coach and GM who care about winning and make the right moves. My two cents. Not that Carbo is bad, he is just not great. Not that Gainey doesn’t know how to trade for good rookies, he just doesn’t know how to use them

anybody besides me having trouble posting lately?…can only get one of three to go…says my post has been flagged as spam and not allowed to pass.

joshtm, are you hacking into my browser again?..(kidding)

Testing 123..works for me!

xhabsfan, what do you expect souray to say? that he hates montreal and that he doesnt want to resign? of course hes gonna say that he loves montreal (in my opinion the best city in the world), but when his family is in LA im sure he’ll do whatever he can to be there with them. What do you think pronger was saying about edmonton while he was there? that he hated the city? oh yeah. my source is a friend who has been involved with him who is from motreal but now she lives in LA. so unless he was tryin to get in her pants… souray is gone. i wish it wasnt the case because the guy can score for a team that struggles to