Game 20: Habs/Preds

One game winning streak. Can we make it two? Latendresse is in the press box tonight so Pactum gets his wish haha. Game time is 8pm! Wouldn’t you love to see AK46 score like the picture?

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#1 Senet1 says:
November 14, 2009 at 10:33 pm

How much longer can we wait before the AK & SK situation is dealt with?

#2 Donnie says:
November 15, 2009 at 12:13 am

Well, I said I wasn’t going to say anything on here this year until I had something good to say. Starting to think that may not happen…so here I am.
What is it going to take to make us good again? The 3 big pickups this off season(though I like seeing them more than the players we let go), are as I feared…just a step sideways. 6 mil a season for a forward, and you have to be AT LEAST a point-a-game guy….not gonna happen. All we really did was what the Rangers have been failing at for years….trying to buy a team, not build one. Does’nt work.
We have alot of wasted or non-factor draft picks who aren’t really gonna help this team, so panic button rules dictate to take a shot in the dark….Gainey did, and 20 games into the season now, it’s safe enough to say…we’re stinkin it up. Not enough production from our firsy line(that sound familar?). Our D-men look like we just hauled em off a 3rd tier pick-up league. And when Price has a rare great game…we can’t get him a W cuz we cant score 1 goal??? 2 out of the last 3 now.

Boring, bland, drab, average hockey. Good enough to be around a 500 team yet again, and finish anywhere from 7th to 10th with a first round exit, if we make it…yet again.
20 plus years and I can say sadly that there is no urgency this year to watch these guys try to play. I find myself scanning thru the other games in the league more and more, looking for SOME excitement. Never thought I would ever lose this much interest, but here we are. And we have the balls to laugh at the Leafs?

Theres at least some major thing wrong in every aspect of the game. Too many 3rd and 4th liners…way too much under-achieving…and for the love of God, pick a goalie, and GO WITH HIM. A #1 we need. 40 games each again isnt going to make anyone improve. One of these guys have to start playing 60+ games a year to advance to the next level, as all the top notch goalies in this league do.

Choppy, unskilled hockey…painful to watch. Martin is not helping…bad move from day 1. Whats wrong with this team?….Everything! Playing for a paycheck instead of the win. When Markov comes back, when Markov comes back is what everyone is saying….stop fooling yourselves. The little improvement he may make will mean nothing in the big picture. I can’t even start to guess what this team has to do to get good again…but I’m thinking this is Gainey’s farewell year.
I’m p*ssed, fed up, and actually cheered when Nash scored the second goal…wow, unfamilar territory. This team sucks-*ss and its time to stop with the excuses and for someone to say so. Make better use of future draft picks…..we have a long time to wait til this team gets good again. Brutal display so far this season…arguably worst than the last few…and the last few should not be hard to improve on.
Anyways, I surrender…I give up. So tired of being frustrated and having every set of expectations dashed time and time again. Can’t fool myself any longer…we are a bottom feeder and looks like we will be for a while. Au revoir !!!!

#3 PACTUM SERVA says:
November 15, 2009 at 5:51 pm

Could have not said it better myself donnie……sad when you really think about it.

#4 whigdoog says:
November 16, 2009 at 2:20 am

What a bunch of nay sayers.. C’mon guys. Sure that was a bad game but it’s twenty games in. It’s not as if it’s time to pick up the golf clubs. Go Habs!

#5 Senet1 says:
November 16, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Finally, someone with a positive outlook. It would be great to build a time through the draft, but few teams every do it successfull anymore. It use to be possible and make some improvements like Pittsburg and Chicago. If you are lucky enough to have everything jell together like Pittsburg great, that happens once in a 25 year. Ottawa tried and were close, Pittsburg were fortunate to get two of the top four players in the league but still if they did not get Gonchar back last year they would have been lucky to make the playoffs. Chicago is now making waves but because of the cap they will probably have to trade two or three of their strong support people to sign their young stars. Where Pittsburg scenario all came together, it looks like Chicago’s will fall apart before they get a chance, so they end up with an entertaining team but not a winner??? The cap seems to control every aspect of our game today. If we could go out and get a Vinny or someone like him we would probably move up into the top four teams in our conference. But we still need all the pieces come together at the same time. Detroit is the only team that I see that has been successful in the draft without actually drafting a top five player in the league. Of course it does not hurt to have the best defenceman in the league for a number of years now. We replaced two or three guys that last year were not consistent and many times did not show up. Our top three or four forwards have shown up every night. I have not seen Gomez, Gionta or Camy taken any shifts off, and Plex is playing some of the best hockey since he joined the habs. I am convinced that we need to find two forwards with some size and offensive upside. If that means trading away some of our so called future then so be it. I have probably been a habs fan longer than most, some 58 years. I have seen some good teams and bad teams over my years and yes I have got discouraged at times too. But one thing I was taught by my dad when I played sports, and that was not to give up, that goes for your favourite team too. Sorry guys but I will still believe that we can turn this thing around but we do need to make a couple of changes soon. Think how bad Pittsburg look this time last year, I wonder if their fans were saying the same thinga as we are right now? Then all of a sudden in January they could not loose and the rest is history

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goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
Senet1 : Goalie I agree with Avatar. PK is the present and future of this teams defence. I would not even take Staal from Pittsburg unless I had him tied up in a long term contract of a Minimum of 5 years. Also once has to consider the salary difference. Pk is on the move up probably 3M plus for his next contract and then eventually 4-5M if he keeps on improving. He has moved his game up two gears since he came into the league 2 years ago. He now has to move to the next level and I believe he will as w
Avatar37 : pressure playing in Montreal, since he has problems with the expectations in Washington and Montreal isn't any easier. Then again, the media were very easy on Kovalev, so maybe it's a Russian thing? No idea. Anyway, yeah, it would have to be an established star that gives us an immediate drastic upgrade at forward, that's the only way I'd trade PK, because we'd be giving up a potential QB on our blueline for the next decade.