Game 20: Habs/Preds

One game winning streak. Can we make it two? Latendresse is in the press box tonight so Pactum gets his wish haha. Game time is 8pm! Wouldn’t you love to see AK46 score like the picture?

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#1 Senet1 says:
November 14, 2009 at 10:33 pm

How much longer can we wait before the AK & SK situation is dealt with?

#2 Donnie says:
November 15, 2009 at 12:13 am

Well, I said I wasn’t going to say anything on here this year until I had something good to say. Starting to think that may not happen…so here I am.
What is it going to take to make us good again? The 3 big pickups this off season(though I like seeing them more than the players we let go), are as I feared…just a step sideways. 6 mil a season for a forward, and you have to be AT LEAST a point-a-game guy….not gonna happen. All we really did was what the Rangers have been failing at for years….trying to buy a team, not build one. Does’nt work.
We have alot of wasted or non-factor draft picks who aren’t really gonna help this team, so panic button rules dictate to take a shot in the dark….Gainey did, and 20 games into the season now, it’s safe enough to say…we’re stinkin it up. Not enough production from our firsy line(that sound familar?). Our D-men look like we just hauled em off a 3rd tier pick-up league. And when Price has a rare great game…we can’t get him a W cuz we cant score 1 goal??? 2 out of the last 3 now.

Boring, bland, drab, average hockey. Good enough to be around a 500 team yet again, and finish anywhere from 7th to 10th with a first round exit, if we make it…yet again.
20 plus years and I can say sadly that there is no urgency this year to watch these guys try to play. I find myself scanning thru the other games in the league more and more, looking for SOME excitement. Never thought I would ever lose this much interest, but here we are. And we have the balls to laugh at the Leafs?

Theres at least some major thing wrong in every aspect of the game. Too many 3rd and 4th liners…way too much under-achieving…and for the love of God, pick a goalie, and GO WITH HIM. A #1 we need. 40 games each again isnt going to make anyone improve. One of these guys have to start playing 60+ games a year to advance to the next level, as all the top notch goalies in this league do.

Choppy, unskilled hockey…painful to watch. Martin is not helping…bad move from day 1. Whats wrong with this team?….Everything! Playing for a paycheck instead of the win. When Markov comes back, when Markov comes back is what everyone is saying….stop fooling yourselves. The little improvement he may make will mean nothing in the big picture. I can’t even start to guess what this team has to do to get good again…but I’m thinking this is Gainey’s farewell year.
I’m p*ssed, fed up, and actually cheered when Nash scored the second goal…wow, unfamilar territory. This team sucks-*ss and its time to stop with the excuses and for someone to say so. Make better use of future draft picks…..we have a long time to wait til this team gets good again. Brutal display so far this season…arguably worst than the last few…and the last few should not be hard to improve on.
Anyways, I surrender…I give up. So tired of being frustrated and having every set of expectations dashed time and time again. Can’t fool myself any longer…we are a bottom feeder and looks like we will be for a while. Au revoir !!!!

#3 PACTUM SERVA says:
November 15, 2009 at 5:51 pm

Could have not said it better myself donnie……sad when you really think about it.

#4 whigdoog says:
November 16, 2009 at 2:20 am

What a bunch of nay sayers.. C’mon guys. Sure that was a bad game but it’s twenty games in. It’s not as if it’s time to pick up the golf clubs. Go Habs!

#5 Senet1 says:
November 16, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Finally, someone with a positive outlook. It would be great to build a time through the draft, but few teams every do it successfull anymore. It use to be possible and make some improvements like Pittsburg and Chicago. If you are lucky enough to have everything jell together like Pittsburg great, that happens once in a 25 year. Ottawa tried and were close, Pittsburg were fortunate to get two of the top four players in the league but still if they did not get Gonchar back last year they would have been lucky to make the playoffs. Chicago is now making waves but because of the cap they will probably have to trade two or three of their strong support people to sign their young stars. Where Pittsburg scenario all came together, it looks like Chicago’s will fall apart before they get a chance, so they end up with an entertaining team but not a winner??? The cap seems to control every aspect of our game today. If we could go out and get a Vinny or someone like him we would probably move up into the top four teams in our conference. But we still need all the pieces come together at the same time. Detroit is the only team that I see that has been successful in the draft without actually drafting a top five player in the league. Of course it does not hurt to have the best defenceman in the league for a number of years now. We replaced two or three guys that last year were not consistent and many times did not show up. Our top three or four forwards have shown up every night. I have not seen Gomez, Gionta or Camy taken any shifts off, and Plex is playing some of the best hockey since he joined the habs. I am convinced that we need to find two forwards with some size and offensive upside. If that means trading away some of our so called future then so be it. I have probably been a habs fan longer than most, some 58 years. I have seen some good teams and bad teams over my years and yes I have got discouraged at times too. But one thing I was taught by my dad when I played sports, and that was not to give up, that goes for your favourite team too. Sorry guys but I will still believe that we can turn this thing around but we do need to make a couple of changes soon. Think how bad Pittsburg look this time last year, I wonder if their fans were saying the same thinga as we are right now? Then all of a sudden in January they could not loose and the rest is history

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Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
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stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
stuo11 : let moen go
stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm