Game 3: Habs/Flyers
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It will be interesting to see what happens tonight as the Habs are at home for Game 3. A win tonight would definitely change the optics of this series which has been rough thus far for the Canadiens. If they squeak one out, most will still see the Flyers as a favorite, but many teams have come back from 2-0 leads in the past. In the playoffs its all about what you’ve done lately. Jaro knows all about this right now. One game in which Montreal can get to Leighton, and all the Bernie Parent talk will go flying out the window. Its all about getting players in position to collect rebounds and tip ins. Montreal will need to find a way to make things less predictable for the Flyers – especially on the powerplay where Philly is doing exactly what Montreal did for two rounds: pressure the puck to force turnovers, and collapse to the net. Montreal will need to get shots through the maze in order to have a chance.
I won’t say much more. Its all been said. Its do or die time again for your Habs.
Go Habs Go!!!
- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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May 20, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Canadiens are a come from behind team. We’ll see what they are made of tonight.
May 21, 2010 at 9:48 am
Well the doom and gloom is gone this morning as the Habs absolutely pasted the Flyers last night. It was critical that Montreal find a way to not only win, but make a statement after being embarrassed twice in Philadelphia. The statement: we can be just as dominant, and your goaltender is no miracle man. The Habs outworked and outperformed the Flyers in just about every category that matters last night. From well before the first face off the Habs fans had worked the Bell Centre into a frenzy, and by the time Michael Cammalleri (who else?) scored to give the home side a 1-0 lead, you knew they were a factor. Montreal fed off of the home crowd energy and took the game to the Flyers. It was similar to games in previous series that changed the tides, and one can only hope it was as inspirational to the players as it was to us plebes.
Jaro was fantastic, making critical saves early to keep the Canadiens in it, as well as in front. I thought the Canadiens defense did a fantastic job in moving the puck much quicker and more efficiently than in the first two games which made an incredible difference in the Habs ability to gain the zone and control possession of the puck. It was like loose pucks magically found their way onto Habs sticks all night long.. its exactly what happens when you’re moving your feet and playing with purpose.
There really isn’t a player I can say a bad thing about, other than the fact the Bargeron still scares the bejesus out of me every time he tries to play defense. O’B cleared a puck over the glass for a penalty on his first shift, and barely saw another shift. A case of smart management for a team that can’t afford bad penalties? Maybe. But this much is true – you can’t expect a guy to sit for two weeks and then come in and make an immediate impact without any rust. Why didn’t Martin put O’Byrne back on the ice once the game was more in hand? 2 minutes into the third period, Montreal had a 4-0 lead. That is the perfect time to take a couple guys who are struggling and get them on the ice. Brain-cramp penalty aside, Montreal can still desperately use O’Byrne’s physicality – as was displayed in the subsequent 18 minutes where the Flyers abandoned hockey and took up the goonery that they are so well known for. Martin seemingly has no clue how to ‘send messages’ other than to completely shut a guy down. The problem with that is that you can’t expect a guy to prove himself in 1:34 of ice time. I have nothing but respect for Martin’s accomplishments up until this point in the season – but there is a pattern developing here, which could be incredibly detrimental to the progression of all of our young players. We cannot afford to shut our young players down every time they make a mistake. You have to be able to get them minutes in games when they can’t do any damage.
Anyways, that is my one gripe after a game where I really shouldn’t have one. Fantastic win, and the Habs are back in the series. Go Habs Go!!!
May 22, 2010 at 9:44 am
Mats I could not agree more about Obryne, yes he made one mistake, but when we went up 5-1 he should have seen some quality minutes at the end of the game. Philly needs to know that they cannot push us around. Hammer should not have to fight has his age,that type of activity wears a guy down especially older players. Obryne was much better suited and prepared to handle the rough stuff at the end of the game.