Game 4: Habs/Caps
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A short post today because the scenario is very simple. Win and there is new life in the series. Lose and start packing your bags because there isn’t a person who watches hockey who would lay down dollars that the Canadiens can come back from 3-1 in this series.
Puck drops just after 7. Price will have to be huge, and for god sakes keep the pressure and forecheck going.
Go Habs Go!!!!
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- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
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April 22, 2010 at 3:52 pm
As a whole we had a good series. The majority of our guys played above and beyond what I was expecting. We held Wash in check for most of this series, and with a couple of horrible plays by a D-man who shall remain unamed, we’re out.
Was a losing battle from the get-go I think. Wash is so powerful that they can barely even play hard, like last night, and still win the game by 3….and on the flip-side, we are playing as good as we can, and 1 or 2 mistakes lead to a 3 goal outburst from them. Thats a bad combination.
Good signs for next year IF, and only IF we upgrade our D-line in a couple of spots to a 21st century D-line. The old, slow, soft overpaid guys have to go as quickly as possible. Mobility and skill is whats its about now.
I still cant figure why Hamrlik kept getting PP time after not 1, but 2, game costing blunders. He’s slow, not highly skilled, and its not evn like he filling the net on the PP. I’d rather see Gorges…at least he has a half-decent set of legs. Too bad it came down to losing this way though. We’re doing a good job on OV and could be up 3-1…but thats it I guess. The 2 guys involved with this team that I dispise having there the most….the 2 guys I have been badmouthing all year…..finally cost us big in the playoffs…..Martin and Hamrlik.
No sense saying anymore I guess…let the powers-that-be keep running this team this way and lets see how long it takes to make a run at the cup again.
As glorious as they are…..we have to forget, for a while, the years gone by and what this squad accomplished. And we have to build a winner again, based on 21st century criteria. We getting left behind it the building process by other teams cuz we are still hanging on to our past achievements and trying to ride on those laurels. Stop trying to build a team based on how teams were built in the 60′s and 70′s.
We are less than average in a few areas on this team, and it seems it cant be dealt with or properly solved. How I wish for a winner again, and for a team and fans who are not satisfied to scrape into the playoffs every year, just to get bounced in the first round, and call it a success. This team has taken a long hard fall from grace, and the question is, well we ever see the top of the mountain again?
Need changes and need em now. Stop calling 8th good enough, and management…..stop hiring coaches and picking up players based on how their last name is pronounced. 30 teams now…not 20 or 6…alot more competition….other teams are adjusting and we can’t. Do something soon so we are still not talking like this in 2020…please. Later guys.
April 22, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Bravo Donnie. That needed saying. You should dedicate that to the two-hundred, plus saps who voted this team as better than last year.
April 23, 2010 at 10:05 am
Good post Donnie. I think you captured the mood of most fans these days. You have to respect the fight that we’ve seen from our guys (which was largely our biggest complaint all season). Who knows what may have changed if Montreal had been able to hold on for 90 seconds at the end of game 2. Coming back to the Bell Centre with a 2-0 lead may have set the Caps in panic mode.. or not.. we’ll never know. Fact is our biggest problems going into the playoffs are the exact things that have sunk us in the post season.
I can understand your frustration Rocky, but what exactly makes last year’s version better? (I acknowledge that there was no option for “meh.. more of the same” which probably would have evened things out. I’m not trying to start **** here but what criteria would make this year’s version worse?
The Habs got marginally younger up front, with marginal improvements in points (with injuries taken into consideration). Plex was better than himself, AK46 was worse. Halak was better, Carey was worse (as far as record). Defensively we got rid of Breezer, and O’B stepped up (sorta), but still struggled with below average speed and physicality.
We got rid of one bad coach and replaced him with a more experienced one who most deem equally as bad. From my perspective, even though the team underwent a massive overhaul the results are pretty well a push.
The one small positive is that the corps of guys who will be here next year will have familiarity to build upon. Not that my expectations are set very high..
April 23, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Points Mats, look at the point total and win total, goals for and against. The picture is nothing but clear. This team is CERTAINLY not better and that was the question IS THE TEAM BETTER!!! IT IS NOT!!!!!