Game 46: Habs/Panthers
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The Habs face the Panthers tonight. The question as always is: who starts? My guess is Jaro. One day when I have time I want to find out in how many of Carey Price’s starts have the Canadiens scored 1 or less goals? He seems to be disproportionately unlucky in that regard. Neither Sergei or Andrei will be in the lineup. Sergei reportedly skated breifly at Brossard yesterday. Ryan O’Byrne continues to be away from the team for family reasons.
Go Habs Go!!!
edit* Unsuprisingly, Jaro has been named the starter for tonight’s game.
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- Senet1 : I want the Bruins to win anyway so that we pick ahead of them in the Draft.
- Senet1 : Muller you got your wish NYR won game 4. So the Bruins will have to play another game at least.
- Senet1 : He may just bring all three of the kids up.
- muller93 : MB is forced to go out and get a big D-man. Missing Emelin for almost half the season is the last thing we needed to hear. Now going out and getting a big D-man is a MUST!!!
- muller93 : Now for the Fu**en Bruins who have no business even being in the second round are going to get a nice rest. Yes the same goons who took out one of best D-man for 6 more months. There is NO Fu**en justice. Just venting--Ok i feel better now.
- muller93 : So pissed to see the Rangers lay down and play like total crap. How did the Rangers beat the Caps? This team is playing with no heart--a must win and can only muster 23 shots...PATHETIC !!!
- muller93 : Senet I did see Galchenyuks goal--Made a great move for the game winner. You can see the kid has so much confidence.
- goalie : If Rangers get swept I wonder if Tortorella will get his walking papers? Or Glen Sather? They have tons of 'talent' but zero wins in this series.
- goalie : It's really too bad we lost to the Sens as we would have played the Rangers and the way NYR are playing we would have beat them too. If only. If only!
- Senet1 : Actually I agree it was a good move for them to play a shorter season and get the experience. He could not have played in the minors this year he would have had to play junior or the NHL. However, he now has a year under him and knows what to expect next year and hopefully take a bigger responsibility on the team. Did you see those two goals in the bronze game? Wow.
- muller93 : Good move by the Habs not having Galchenyuk play in the minors. Now Galchenyuk has 1 year in the NHL and playoff experience this is going to pay off big time come next year.
- Senet1 : Galchenyuk scores to back to back goals in shoot out to help USA win Bronze metal. I did not see the second goal but the first was a beauty.
- Senet1 : So we could pick anywhere from 25th to 23rd depending on who wins these quarter final series.
- Senet1 : First, is the 14 teams in the lottery. Then there are 12 teams that did not make the semi finals in the order of the seasonal finish, Then there are the four teams in the semi final the first two eliminated pick in the order of the regular season points total and the last two based on who wins and who loses the cup. So as it stand now if say Detroit beats Chicago then Detroit moves up to pick after us. Boston or NYR will move up and pick after us. LA or San Jose will move up and pick after us
- Senet1 : Basically, I was wrong about the draft pick situation. There are three groups of drafting teams within the 30 teams.
- Senet1 : seriously ready to challenge for the cup. He will us win games but he will not be the difference between winning the cup and not winning the cup. You pick up players like that once you have the team ready to challenge,.
- Senet1 : I am looking at the players to draft and there are a lot of big 6'3-6'5 forwards available ion the draft this year. If we could draft 3-4 big young players in the 2nd and 3rd round why would you want to give that up for a roster player who may have 2-3 years at best. If we are going to build a winner to have to build it with bigger players and there are a lot of good big players available this year. So you sign Ott and he is with us for the short run, but probably not when we are seriously re
- Senet1 : Boullion is a great mentor for the young D-men
- muller93 : Boullion is one of MBs great additions--Boull ion is a definite Keeper.
- muller93 : Getting rid of Kaberle frees up a lot of cash. Boullion is small but is reliable and doesn't back down from anyone.
- muller93 : Exactly Goalie any thoughts on a punishing D-man?
- goalie : They;re showing determination adn skill vs Ducks and Blackhawks.
- goalie : REd Wings could turn out to be the surprise team of this year's playoffs!
- goalie : WE need to rid our team of Kaberle and Webber. Step two would be to then move Diaz. If we get that big d-man I believe that would push Boullion to # 7 on the chart. We'd then go with Georges, PK,Markov (to continue mentoring Ememlin) Tinordi as our starting six . THEN I'd be excited about our chances. We could then work on getting bigger forwards.
- goalie : I too would gladly give up a 3rd round pick for Ott- the type of player we sadly lack. AND if we could get one more rugged, expeienced defenceman it would help immensely.
- muller93 : Senet what you are saying makes sense but if we can get Ott for a 3rd round I'll take that all day.
- muller93 : MB should be looking at a big D-man first, even though I like our blue line with the addition of Tinordi. We need that insurance just in case one gets injured. Also I'm a firm believer in starting with the goalie first then-defense-for wards-and we already have good goalie. We have all noticed when we have the lead Price is tough to beat.
- Senet1 : So sometimes you have to sacrifice for one year or two to build that team in the draft. then add the finishing touches through FA and trades.
- Senet1 : Muller, Detroit is another good example. They have been in the hunt every year with good well balanced teams yet only one or two cups to show for it. However, they have built a team that has a chance every years for the last 10+ years. That is what I think we have a chance to do this year with a good draft. It reminds me of the habs teams of the mid 80 and 90's we built a team then with sold draft picks and won the cup twice during that time period. So sometimes you have to sacrifice a one
- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
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January 7, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Matts I was wondering the same thing, when Halak has a bad game the habs score 4 or 5 goals, and he get s the win. When Price has a weak game, the habs never seem to score more than two goals. Halak gets the start again against a lower level team that we should beat with a decent game from Halak as well as the team.
January 8, 2010 at 11:23 am
Fairly solid game for the Habs from my perspective (at least from when I started watching half-way through the first). A few things that I noticed and liked was the contribution of 4 lines. Even though Laraque has been mostly useless since he arrived in Montreal, I’m not a fan of dressing a guy only to sit him on the bench. Its a complete waste of the player’s energy. I was happy to see Martin roll 4 lines last night pretty effectively, and while Laraques 5 minutes of ice time was less than he would like, it is considerably more than he has seen in the past. It is especially important to get contributions from all 12 forwards when you have injuries like we have with the Kostitsyns. Laraque had a good game controlling the puck in the offensive zone and a dandy pass that nearly created a Metropolit goal.
I also loved seeing the continued spark of energy that Benoit Pouliot brings to the Gomez and Gionta line. He is the prototypical player that we need for that line with his mix of size and skill. He is getting an opportunity to revitalize his young career, and is cashing in the way we always had hoped that Latendresse would. He gets his nose dirty, but still has the hands to control the puck and to get good scoring chances. Playing with Gomez his only concern should be firing shots – because you know Gomez wont. More on that in a minute.
Jaro was fantastic again. The goalie “controversy” aside, it has been fantastic to watch Halak get the opportunity to play starter’s minutes over the past month. He has shown what a fantastic late round draft pick he was. I would prefer if he continued to be a Montreal Canadien next year, but you know he’s going to land a good contract and a lengthy pro career based on his numbers regardless of whether he’s in Montreal or not.
It wouldn’t be honest of me if I didn’t mention at least a couple areas that are still concerning in our game. Benoit Pouliot has been a steal for us because he’s willing to try to get past a defender for a shot. Michael Cammalleri and Brian Gionta, and Andrei Kostitsyn are the other three players on our roster who will think shoot first. While noone can deny that Gomez, who has 11 points in his last 8 games is playing fantastic hockey, I cringe every time I watch him carry the puck around everyone through the neutral zone only to shy away and look to pass once he gets near the hash marks. It causes too many turnovers to count and serves to limit the offensive chances of his line. I fully believe that is the only thing that holds him from being an 80 point guy in this league. Defenders can cheat on him knowing that he wont try to take the puck by them. If he would attempt even a few times a game to take the puck hard to the net he would buy himself SUBSTANTIALLY more real estate to work with out there. He’s a guy who reminds me in some ways of Kovalev in terms of vision of the ice, but he doesn’t have the same instinct of when to shoot and when to pass. I’m very happy with his play of late, but if he could get going with some shots, Gionta and Pouliot would have an absolute field day with jucy rebounds.
The other area that is troubling is the pairing of Josh Gorges and Andrei Markov. Markov is at his best when he can ‘chip in’ physically but focus on his strong defensive positioning, speed and puckhandling ability. He was a beast with Souray and Komisarek because he didn’t have to be a warrior. Gorges isn’t big enough to take any of the physical load off of Markov, even though he has the heart of a warrior. I would much prefer to see Markov with Hamrlik or (even better) O’Byrne when he returns. Having the best defender on the team beside him would do wonders for O’Byrne’s game, and would make his job far simpler. Crash and Bang and support when Markov joins the rush.
January 8, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Well tomorrow night we play one of the top teams so lets hope that Halak starts and then we can see whether he is capable of playing this way against a good team and pull out a win. If he does then I will be the first to suggest that he gets more playing time than Price. In that case maybe we play him against the tops teams and Price against the bottom feeders, because so far, it has been the reverse, and to me it has made Price’s record look bad while Halak’s record has looked good.Fact is that Halak has 12 wins and only won has come against a team with a record above 500. He has played 7 games against the better teams and has a record of 1 win and 6 losses.
Price has played 15 games against the top teams and as a 5-10 records and he has played 11 games against teams below 500 and has a 5 and 6 record. So it seems that out of 21 games not including OT Loses, Carey has played 15 of those games and Halak only 6. Neither goalie has a good record against these better teams which tells us that the team as a whole is not playing well against these good teams. Halak seems to have a better recorda against the poorer teams. 11 of those 16 Price losses were by bascially one goal. So I have a hard time saying that one goalie is any better than the other, Price has a better record against the good teams and Halak has a better record against the poor teams. You cannot compare save percentage due to the quality of the teams each has played against. So I would like to see Halak play a few more games against the better teams to see what kind of a record he would have against them.If he can win consistently against the better teams then and only then will I admit he is the better goaltender. We forget that Price won the Molson’s Cup back in November as the best Habs player of the month. Likewise Halak won it in December.
That is how I see it anyway.
January 9, 2010 at 10:57 am
Habs played a solid game against the panthers, they were ALL over them the entire game, i would love to see more clutch finishes, and of course Halak comes through with a big shut out.