Matts I do not disagree with you very often however, Carey made some very difficult saves before he got beat on the first goal. To me his was in perfect position to defend the net he was out of his crease had the lower part of the net covered completely. Comrie made a perfect shot that I doubt any goalie could have stopped without some luck. It was a partial breakway as well which should not have happened.

The second goal was a deflection and again Carey was in the proper position to make the save on the shot but not many goalies are going to stop that deflection unless it hits them.

The third goal I thought was weak at first until I saw the replay and again the Edmonton forward was allowed to walk right in on goal, a give away by the defence and again he made a perfect shot. Carey may have been caught a little off guard on the give away but his position seem good in the net he just got beat by a perfect shot.

On the other hand Khabibulin made some good saves as well but our shots were normal shots, he did not make any great saves but did get beat by a very good shot.

I guess my point is how many great saves or good saves does our goalie have to make until we realize or give credit to the shooter and blame our defence for making the serious mistake in the first place which makes our goalie look bad.

The first two games Carey played well made some good saves but still got beat on some good shots. Most goalies will make oue fantastic/great save each game but you cannot count on them to make fantastic saves all the time.

Personally, I watch the entire game on saturday night and I could not fault Carey on any of the goals, we could have used a few more quality shots when we did get the chance to score, but personally I think we made Khabibulin look good.
So sorry for disagreeing with you but although I do agree we need good goaltending we also need better quality shots on goal and better defensive zone coverage in our end, that kind of coverage makes the opposition shoot before they can take aim and make the perfect shot.

That is how I see if anyway.

Well I thought we played very well in four of the first five games and with any luck we would have won the Calgary game. Unfortunately, we gave that start to Halak and personally I say we stay with Carey because he had won two straight and this confidence was growing, which in my opinion is what he needs most right now. We knew Gill was slow unfortunately Martin has not adjusted his defence to deal with that issue. Gill played exceptionaly well for Pittsburg and he was their shut down guy in the playoffs. But he like most slower defenceman need support from the wingers and his defensive partner, therefore you need to have a good skater as his partner to get back when he can’t. Personally, I feel our defence is better this year than last year but it still has problems especially when we loose Markov. As far as Khabibulin is concerned he is steady but we made him look good the other night, we only had one quality shot on goal and it went in. Edmonton had four or five on us and Carey could not stop three of them. That being said 99% of the goalies in the League wouold not have stopped any of those shots. We need our second and third lines producing more especially the second line. AK46 so far has not shown up, maybe he wants to be traded with his brother???? So we ship the two of them and a prospect and sweeten the pot if necessary to get a top four defenceman and a scoring winger. I understand there are a few out there to be had, some teams need quality and some want future. There are quite a few teams in cap trouble. Chicago have some quality players available, Dallas not in cap trouble but, Florida, Tampa, Atlanta, and a few more all need to move players eventually. I like our first line, I like our third line although we need more from them. I do not like our second line. We need something to produce a more balance scoring threat. That is how I see it anyway.

Matt’s one last thought although I agree that a goalie has to come up with some big saves at the right times in a game my only point was that the shots that went in I doubt could have been stopped any any goalie. Perfect shot, deflection, and forward allowed to walk in on a giveaway and take aim an shoot before the goalie has a chance to position himself for the shot. The only way any goalie stops a defection is by it hitting him. Mostly that is luck and good positioning. In this case Price was in the right place to play the shot, there was no chance on the deflection. The only goal he may have had a chance on was the third but again due to the giveaway there was little time to adjust to the shooter. That is why I cannot fault Price on any of the goals, because I do not believe anyone goalie could have stopped the first two and the third well??
19 shots is not the measuring stick but the quality of the shots is and Edmonton had the better qualify shots in this game.