Game 60: Sens/Habs
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Circus Day in Montreal is over, for the time being.
The Canadiens and Alex Kovalev return to the ice and hopefully put a win together to relieve some of this tension.
Will the Habs be able to focus on the ice? Isn’t it time we all focus on what’s actually important, the playoffs? The Habs are only 2 points ahead of 9th place, and out of the playoffs.
Although the Senators have put a few wins together, the chances they overcome their horrible season and make the playoffs are slim.
The same can’t be said about the Panthers, Hurricanes, Sabres & Penguins – all knocking on the door.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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February 21, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Well this has to be the start of a new season tonight, we either play well or we will be in 9th place by the end of the weekend. Carbo has been trying to get the team to be more defensive of late without totally stymeing the offense. We have score 9 goals in the last two games and lost both games so that tells me we need more defence and better goal tending although I thought Price played much better the last two games and certainly could not be faulted on 4 of the 5 goals that were scored by Pittsburg. In the last two games we have gone up against arguably the three or four best offensive players in the game today and could have won both games with a little better defence.
February 21, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Shows what getting a good goaltending performance can do though. Halak made key saves and the offense was free to do its thing without having to push to comeback from softy goals. Great game today, now the job is to keep the momentum rolling.
February 22, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Matts you are absolutely right about the goaltending, Personally and I said it last week had we had good goaltending we would have won at least two maybe three of those games that we lost. Once a tend loses confidence in their goaltender they do not take the chances or make the plays they normally would and therefore, offensive opportunities do not develop. Kovalev is a prime example of this as he struggled to make the proper play instead of letting his instinct tell him what to do. He simply was not playing with the same instincts that he normally played with last year. Now I am not sold on Halak just yet but Ihave to give credit where credit is due and he played a great game. It wasn’t that long ago we were hoping Price would get back soon because Halak seemed to be allowing 1 or 2 soft goals a game. I believe that Price is the better goalie but he has to start to show it again and our goaltender coach has to start working with him more. Speaking of goaltending coaches, I wonder if Patrick Roy would be any good as a goal tender coach. I am not sold on our current coach it just seems he has not helped these two kids that much?
February 23, 2009 at 11:05 am
Well, the good news is that with 24 games left on the schedule, Montreal is showing signs of life. Our offense seems to be back on track resting on the shoulders of the players we had imagined it would at the beginning of the season. Kovalev seems to have found some renewed vigor after his two game time-out. Plekanec has started lighting the lamp for the first time in 60 games. Andrei Kostitsyn has battled recent adversity to become the team’s first 20 goal scorer (now with 22). The win in Ottawa showed that this team has regained some confidence and can win games with their speed, skill and hard work. The addition of Mathieu Schneider to the blueline on the powerplay has ignited the team’s man advantage to the tune of 7-12 since he arrived. The one aspect of our game that so crippled this team’s ability to win throughout the first 55 games has once again become one of its most dangerous weapons. But for as many burgeoning positive signs there are still huge question marks surrounding the team. Can Carey Price regain the confident form that allowed Bob Gainey to trade Cristobal Huet at the deadline last season? Is Jaroslav Halak capable of playing consistently enough to handle the goaltending duties if Price’s play continues to slide? After Andrei’s 22 goals, our next highest totals are Plekanec (15), Kovalev (14), Koivu, Tanguay, D’Agostini, Lapierre (10) – Will the Canadiens have another 20 goal scorer by season’s end?
Now for the really bad news. For all of the pomp and celebration surrounding Montreal’s centennial celebrations, the team currently sits in 5th place with 69 points. And while that doesn’t sound terrible it is only 2 points from 9th place Carolina. And while there are still many games to play, Montreal’s schedule is very tough. Our next games are against Vancouver, Philadelphia, San Jose and Buffalo – all of which are playoff teams who want the points as much as we do. 13 of our remaining 24 games are at home which is good considering our record on the road has been so terrible this season. It is clear that every point is going to be crucial from this point on. There is no guarantee that Bob Gainey is going to be able to make this team better as we sit 8 days from the trade deadline. Last year Canadiens fans watched Marion Hossa go to Pittsburgh. Gainey isn’t the only GM looking at the small pool of available players and so it will be key that the players already on the roster be the ones who buckle down and turn this season around.
February 23, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Well said Matts, I could not have put it better. The do think that if we could tighten up our defence a little and stop allowing 4-5 goals a game, then we have a shot at the playoffs and who knows.