Game 65: Habs/Thrashers
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Less than 20 games remain.
Atlanta, where the Canadiens slide first began. A team they absolutely must beat as the race tightens up.
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mouthGeorges Laraque’s season might be over, and Alex Tanguay’s season will resume tonight.
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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March 6, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Atlanta is 5-4-1 in their past 10. They’ve been doing their best to play of the role of spoiler and I’m sure they’re licking their chops at the thought of adding to the woes of a struggling, potentially playoff bound team. So the Habs cannot afford to fail to score during their first period attack tonight. Hopefully Tanguay will be able to conribute much sooner than later and provide them a spark.
Will Halak be back in goal tonight?
March 6, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Good game, Habs. Nice win. That’s 8 wins a row now, and we’re looking like the Cup contender that your salaries and experience would have made us out to be at the start of the year. You guys are working hard. You are clearly proud to wear the jersey in the team’s 100th year.
March 6, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Bravo !!!! Now these are the misfits that we’ve come to know and love this season.
Kinda hoping we don’t make the playoffs now…if thats what it takes to bounce Carbonneau from behind that bench.
Top notch special olympics team we have there though.
March 7, 2009 at 12:21 pm
2008-09 team photo: http://www.ben-ali-shriners.org/images/clownsBig.JPG
March 7, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Its one thing to go to the net, its another to be ready to put the puck in once you get there. These goofs never score easy goals. Unless someone snipes a goal over the shoulder of a goalie, they have no answer. Everything is on the perimeter, and sooooo predictable. Where is the dynamic passing and movement from last season? Carbo needs to sit these guys down in front of a tv and play any game from the second half of the season so they can remember what it looks like to play the game. He’s got them all playing so far out of their comfort zones that even the “tough” guys have stopped doing what they do. We had 5 hits last night. Are you kidding me?
March 7, 2009 at 3:02 pm
This is what gainey should do to carbo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQQuOgyyE4
March 7, 2009 at 4:34 pm
lol, Pactum.
You guys should just try to do what I’m doing. Discuss after every game like the team just won and is on a winning streak.
Like: “Good job boys. I’m so proud to be a Habs fans. You guys are great.” Or: “I worry about tonight’s win. Sure, they won 2-0, but how long can they continue to ride the stellar goaltendding of Carey Price?”
March 7, 2009 at 5:22 pm
lol yep the boys are showing us that they are unbeatable. Carbo for coach of the year.
March 7, 2009 at 8:54 pm
The next installment of ‘Where are they now?’ should focus on the 2008-09 Montreal Canadiens.
Mr. Naslund, submit your CV to Gainey. Follow it up after every loss. Keep on him.
March 7, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Price was NOT the problem last night. He has been the problem for sure, but not last night. When Ryan O’Byne shows more heart that any other hab on the ice, there are some big problems. So…Begin with a hat trick tomorrow?
March 8, 2009 at 12:40 am
The cold hard truth of this is that we are an easy 2 points for almost any other team now. I highly doubt we will even make the playoffs. Now who woulda said that at the beginning of the season. We need skill and heart…..gotta start ( and I say for the 100th time) with a genuine first line center. I don’t see a whole lot here we need to protect come the offseason…hopefully we make another grab for Vinny…the list of untouchables, I believe, will be a whole lot shorter then.
March 8, 2009 at 12:52 pm
The Canadiens in my estimation have a problem with the young guns who don’t seem to be taking this NHL thing as a serious career and job. I will name a certain Mike K, Carey, Josh, Mike D, Chris, to please stand up and take charge of the sutuation. The time is now the game is tonight against Dallas, take no prisoners!!
March 8, 2009 at 12:58 pm
There is plenty of time for the young guns on the Canadiens to relax and have fun in their little parties and vacations.. but the time has never been during their contractual responsibilities!!! I am calling out to them now to take responsibility and not blame or look over their shoulders to see why others are not performing.. someone needs to step it up now or the Habs don’t make the playoffs this is a simple equation, one that can only be answered by the individuals who get paid big money to play a game and wear the Tricolor!!
March 8, 2009 at 1:34 pm
That was brilliant!! I actually think that should be done to some of the players not Carbo persay.
March 8, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Well I have been sticking up for Carbo all season, and I still am not convinced that it is his fault but something has to change to get these guys motivated to play. So I would not fire Carbo I would put him up in the press box for 8 or 10 games so he can actually see what is going happening on the ice. Gainey can come down and coach the team, maybe change some things that he does not like and see if we can salvage this season. We cannot continue to get the lackluster effort from 50% of the team. We finally get a good night out of Price only to have his teammates let him down. How is he going to gain any confidence when his team in front of him played like they did against Atlanta. Now Carbo/Gainey are forced to make a decision do they go with Halak tonight when he has not played in a week and hope he stays hot and also risk bruising Prices confidence that much more or do they go back with Price, if he has a good first period stick with him if he does not then Halak is back in the net until he proves he does not deserve it.