Game 72: Leafs/Habs
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The fate of the Canadiens seems to be decided this morning after their failure to close last nights game in Buffalo.
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- muller93 : Very true Senet, you do need luck and we haven't had any luck it seems since the habs moved to the Bell Center. We had an incredible run in 2010 with some crazy goal tending from Halak. With Galchenyuk-Tinor di-Gallagher all in 1 year--not too bad, even with an early exit in the playoffs.
- Senet1 : Muller I guess we all have our own ideas, but there has never been too many times that were successful when they traded their draft picks away. We have a chance to build this team so we have a shot at winning the cup over the next 10 years. Even as good as Pittsburgh has been they have only won the cup once since Crosby and Malkin have been with the team. That is because you not only need great players but you need luck to win, but one thing about Pittsburgh they have a chance every year. The
- muller93 : Good point on Torres, he might be a liability. Torres has to tone it down a bit, but that's his game-very aggressive.
- goalie : Though I don't condone what Raffi Torres did - thos shows you how repeat offenders or near offenders are going to be treated. His hit was NOT illegal BUT what the rap sheet adn reputation Torres has he got severly punished. Lesson to be learned by OTHER players because Torres dopesn't learn fromk his mistakes.
- muller93 : Senet normally I would agree with you on not trading draft picks but we are not in a rebuilding stage. Sometimes draft picks can be a roll of the dice and it can take up to 3 years to be NHL ready. We have a good team and I agree with Stuo players like Clowe-Torres-Ott -Scott will make a big difference. Somebody has to protect Gallagher, he can't keep getting hit the way does--we need a tough forward so they think twice before going after Gallagher.
- Senet1 : Really a heathly Habs team would probably win more games against the Pens that we did against the Sens. Reason they Pens would not play as physical against us as against the Sens. If we get good goaltending we win at least two games.
- zpezada4ok : hello all «link»
- stuo11 : hes a tougher big guy too! Just a minor adjustment but will help a bit
- stuo11 : hes better than markov, and hes french who was in mention for defenceman of the year
- goalie : Markov for Beauchemin - an injury prone d-man for an ;old timer'd-man. Beauchemin is NOT what the Habs need in my opinion. He is a HUGE defensive liability.
- goalie : Stuo 11 I'd make that trade with Oilers fast BUT I doubt the Oilers will make that. Two marginal d-men at the best for a switch of first round picks - not a chance .
- stuo11 : markov for beachemin?
- stuo11 : let moen go
- stuo11 : maybe try and get steve begin back
- stuo11 : we wouldve kicked out all other teams but pens, sens,
- stuo11 : pens have alot of forwaRDS same with us but we have better goaltending
- stuo11 : theres styles of play goalie. Sens played us good, but lost games to southeast teams florida and tampa and get crushed by leafs EVERYTIME. sens and leafsd cant beat bruins but we do frequently
- stuo11 : Diaz weber and our 1st for their first edm
- goalie : SEns beat us 4 games to 1. Pens had last night's game under their control. What does that mean if we were up vs the Pens in a series. I think the Habs have a way to go before we're competing for Lord Stanley's Cup!
- Senet1 : If he could score goals like Lucic and we could sign him to a four year contract then I would consider it too. However, NOT if we only have him for one to two years.
- Senet1 : So we went from 27th pick to 21st pick.
- goalie : Normally I would not trade draft picks BUT if we could get a consistently, solid player (especially forward) who is BIG I'd trade one of our picks.
- Senet1 : The good part of this is with both Detroit and Boston moving on to the 2nd round it makes our draft position better, we move up the list by two.
- Senet1 : Bruins beat leafs in OT. It was hard but I was hoping the Leafs beat the Bruins. They had a4-1 lead in the third and two goal lead with less than 4 minutes and lost. Sound familiar.
- Senet1 : The thing is just because you get those guys does not guarantee that you will even make the playoffs or get out of the first round. Look at Detroit they built a strong team and organization and have been at the top for years. Yet they only have had a chance to win it two or three times. No matter how good you are you still need the breaks. So putting yourself in position to win is the most important thing to do year after year.
- stuo11 : i think rightnow we came 2nd in east, a few tough players and we could win it all. why wait? id rather win the cup and not make playoffs the next year!
- stuo11 : and save 4 mill
- stuo11 : ryan clowe or raffi torres! and then a big defencemen! trade markov and gionta for Cammalleri. crap for crap but at least hes canadian and good in playoffs lol
- stuo11 : goalie and muller, we outplayed the sens, real bad luck, major injuries! i still find were the better team. If the nhl wasnt so dumb about zibinejads goal itd be totally different!
- Senet1 : Don't TRADE DRAFT PICKS for one to three year wonders.
- Senet1 : Sorry guys but I would not trade our draft picks. We have 1 in the first round, 2 early second rounds + our own 2nd round pick and a good third round pick. We have finally got a chance to build this team like Detroit did and be able to stay up in the upper group of teams for a long time. If we blow this draft we blow our long term success. There are some players we can trade away and hopefully get some rugged players in return and or more draft picks. We have shown other players that we have
- goalie : I agree with Muller. I'm not sure how many high / mid draft choices we have but I'd be looking to make some moves (even trade draft choices) for a couple of proven, rugged, players who can help us immediately.
- muller93 : Well MB is a finalist for the GM of the year and I for one will say he did a great job with the Habs. We are just a few players away from having a real contender for years to come. But I really don't want to bank on this years draft--We need some NHL ready players. Hab fans have waited long enough and we have a good foundation. Lets trade some players along with some draft picks and get some big players in here. This is the only problem I see.
- Senet1 : The leafs were intimidated early not from size but just not believing they could beat Boston and they did not get good goaltending early. Now they believe that they can beat the bruins and I would not be surprised if they do because they have faster than boston. They are beating boston to the puck similar to the way we beat them to the puck. They are exploiting their defence with their speed. So as long as Reimer gives them goaltending they have a chance.
- goalie : Senet has it right. Other teams have drafted skill, size and dedication. Those players are out there.
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March 21, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I certainly have my doubts. The Leafs would love nothing more than to help put the Habs in a non-playoff position.
March 21, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Yeah, you have to expect them to come out firing. I keep expecting to see Montreal beat someone so we can all talk about how the season may be saved.. but the more I think about it.. its not gonna happen. My only hope is that things haven’t gotten so bad in Montreal that Gainey can’t build a playoff team for next season. It would be really sad to have to start rebuilding all over again.
March 21, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Another wasted Saturday evening.
March 22, 2009 at 11:13 am
I gotta go up and watch this sh*t on the 31st. What horrible timing to go see my first live game.
March 22, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Will everyone please lay off the goalies. No goalie is perfect and even the great Brodeur and Roy have let it soft goals. Anyone who really knows hockey realized that it starts from the forwards back. The goalie is the last defender. The Habs right now are playing tight, not having any fun and are relying on the goalies to bail them out. If the forwards would back check properly, and the defense would clear the puck after the first save, the Habs would be in much better shape.
The sad part is that this is just steamrolling. I can’t even listen to a Habs game anymore. Even the announcers can’t talk about anything else. Give it a rest. It’s not all on the goalies.
March 22, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Did anyone hear BGL talking about how the team has to make the playoffs? He mentions that the guys have been talking about how important it is for them to be winners as they pursue contracts next season.
So in the 100th Season of the Montreal Canadiens, these guys are trying to motivate themselves by talking about how important it is to have a winning attitude when trying to get a good contract in the NHL.
Filthy and disgusting.
March 22, 2009 at 6:29 pm
That’s the unfortunate reality of modern day professional sports. With salaries being what they are (unjustified, unacceptable and simply ludicrous), it’s difficult for atheletes not to play for their own best interests. This gets in the way of the team and respective sport of course.
Incidentally, this is why I had stated much earlier on that the best thing that could happen to hockey is for the NHL to lose franhcises, shrink in size. A business oriented mind might read this and think that I’m on drugs or stupid. To the contrary, Mr. Business, it’s our hopeless mode of ever increasing inflation that destroys the purity of sport (among other things, such as everything). And I apologise for stating this, but anyone who doesn’t see this for what it is is little more than well conditioned and adjusted to a truly ill society.
Over the top?
March 23, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Its not unusual for Mondays to be a weird day for Habs fans. Typically the team has either won or lost on Saturday night, and Sunday has been spent either reveling in the win, or pondering what went wrong (and recently there has been too much of the latter). Monday, a day the Canadiens rarely play games, is often a lost day for fans; without significance or consequence. Monday is a day for reasoned reflection. After a humiliating loss at the hands of the Maple Leafs on Saturday many had clung to the notion that since Florida had also lost on Saturday night, that it “could be worse”. I myself was tempted to agree. The Habs are currently holding the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference and if the season were to end today, would play what seems like our perennial playoff foes, the Boston Bruins. The fact that the playoff season has not been lost entirely is reason enough for some to cling to the notion that things could in fact still get worse. It was only when I began to reflect on all of the situations that the current version of the 100 year wonder faces, that I clearly had made up my mind that optimism was no longer an option.
Prior to firing Guy Carbonneau, the Habs had enjoyed a small respite solely based on the outstanding play of Jaroslav Halak. He singlehandedly stole games that Montreal had little business winning. Unfortunately, Halak’s streak was cut short by the flu, which also seemingly ended Carbo’s coaching career. Carey Price replaced Halak and has once again suffered a major setback to his game. Once Halak was finally restored to the net, his superb play had vanished along with his cough due to cold. Goaltending has been a HUGE problem for Montreal this season and continues to be an increasingly problematic force playing against the Habs’ chances of a post-season.
People have also often said “It could be worse, Andrei Markov could be injured”. How devastating that would be for Montreal who are being led in scoring by a defenseman? Markov’s 55 points are 7 better than the next closest player and serve as a constant reminder of just how offensively challenged this team is. It is absolutely shameful that the 4th highest producing forward on this team is Robert Lang: a man whose season was ended over 20 games ago. The team is plagued by forwards who have all decided to have career-worst seasons at the same moment, a moment which was been earnestly celebrated as though it was to be our finest. However, the forwards have also struggled mightily on defense, often creating turnovers in dangerous areas and routinely ignoring their duties in assisting the defense in moving the puck out of the defensive zone.
Finally, Canadiens fans have rested easily in the past few years knowing that “at least we know the future of the Canadiens is safe in “the cradle of modern sport”, as Ron MacLean likes to say. This morning reports have emerged that the Gillette family have decided to analyze their holdings in order to assess whether they can afford to run the team going forward. In a year where players have been linked to drug-dealers, star players have lost all confidence and become fragile, and a coach lost his job – now there is talk that the Canadiens could be sold?
At every turn this year I have looked for the positives when only negatives seemed apparent. In our darkest slumps I have looked for the ways in which somehow, the season can be salvaged. I now understand that the disappointment I have felt was a result of my backwards expectations. There was a time not too long ago that I EXPECTED disaster with regards to the Montreal Canadiens, and yet somehow recently I have grown complacent with the comfort of winning. Now I understand that in order to have any joy in the remaining 10 games of this season, I must abandon all hope. I have to assume that there is more disappointment waiting around the bend. Only when I successfully purge my last remaining desires for this season can I truly be pleasantly surprised by anything good. If nothing else this centennial season has taught me that the Hockey Gods are watching, and that any time you try to construct the perfect scenario, they are capable of ruining all. I will not try to find the silver lining in our upcoming Tuesday match up at home with the Atlanta Thrashers. I’ve been down that road before. I’ve seen where it ends. This time I’m going to expect nothing and simply wait for the result, like I should have been doing all along.
March 23, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed the Laraque interview. http://habsinsideout.com/otherwing
March 23, 2009 at 5:34 pm
The Curse of the Native Indian Burial Grave stikes again and keeps it`s course,Legend is the Center was the site of an ancient native burial ground grave, it was dug up to build the now rink , there has been spirit sighting in and around the grounds and unrest comes to those associated to it`s grounds.
Legend is Montreal will never again win Stanley cup for as long as it is played in the now centre,stay tuned for more of the curse.
March 23, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Well that’s just it though. These aren’t local heros anymorem they’re hired commodities from all over the globe. So no surprise at all that the CH means nothing to many of them. It means something to Lapierre, Latendresse, Tanguay, even Kostopolous and Schneider (perhaps to a lesser degree), but how could it possibly mean anything to Kovalev, Plekanec or the Kostitsyns, etc? They inherited it, they weren’t born into it.
Docphuket, stop sniffing glue and leave the deceased native peoples alone. They couldn’t have cared less about hockey or a big shiny cup.
March 24, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Do you really think it means something to these 3 just because they are french canadiens? I wish I could believe you. It is just a business now to all of them. Any of those 3 would leave next week if another team offered them a multi-million dollar contract. Sad but true.
March 24, 2009 at 1:52 pm
dutchman, I do not at all disagree with your point. The NHL is defintely a business. In fact it’s more than that – its a full blown corporation. So yes, there’s no question that the French Canadien players in this league also have their own best interests in mind. Of course. My point however is that, regardless of modern day selfishism, that crest is still going to mean more to a player who grew up with a sound understanding of its meaning than it is to a player who grew up largely or entirely ignorant of its meaning. To some, it’s chilhood memories, it’s a family, it’s a meaningful symbol. To others, it’s merely a work uniform.
March 24, 2009 at 2:24 pm
There have been ghostly spirits sighting in the building,true facts by people who work there,they have tryed to break the curse by getting Native Sons in the past S. Soury and now C. Price but this will not break the Curse ,spirits are unrested,stay tuned.
March 24, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I actually remember reading something about those sightings. One article even provided a picture of the aforementioned apparition: This little guy
I don’t want to stay tuned. I’m changing the channel now.