Game 82: Penguins/Habs
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Last game of the season with a spot already clinched.
Technically a meaningless game and a chance to experiment a little.
Hopefully Carey Price finishes the year with a strong performance and heads into the post season confident.
Higgins – Metropolit – Kovalev
Latendresse – Lapierre – Kostopoulos
A. Kostitsyn – Plekanec – D’Agostini
Stewart – Koivu – LaraqueGorges – Dandenault
Weber – Schneider
Hamrlik – Komisarek
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- goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
- Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
- goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
- goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
- Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
- Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
- goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
- goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
- Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
- Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
- Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
- goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
- HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
- Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
- Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
- Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
- HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
- HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
- HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
- Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
- Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
- Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
- HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
- HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
- HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
- Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
- Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
- Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
- goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
- Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
- Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
- goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
- goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
- Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.
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April 13, 2009 at 11:48 am
And so the regular season ends, and the post season begins. Its funny, when I think back about the roller coaster that was the Habs season I have to think back about the incredible excitement that I had before the season started for the new additions that the Canadiens made to the roster. As training camp started I wondered how the lines would shake out now that Montreal had acquired Alex Tanguay and Robert Lang. Looking back, I have to honestly say everything that I expected was wrong with regard to this season!
The “top” line – After the season that the Plekanec, Kostitsyn, Kovalev line had last year I thought for sure we were about to witness the emergence of a couple new NHL stars. More specifically, I thought for sure that Andrei was going to emerge as the true offensive superstar that we’ve all been pining after for years. In 06-07 he had 50 points in 52 games with the bulldogs. In 07-08 (which really was his rookie season in the NHL) he had a fantastic 53 points and really took off once he was put on the top line. This year, I can’t help but feel underwhelmed by his 41 points. I’m not willing to write him off as others have done – but next year, when the excuse of the sophomore jinx can finally be laid to rest, this tenth overall pick has to produce for the Canadiens. A great way to start would be to have an impact against the Bruins in this upcoming playoff series.
The off-season signings – The addition of Alex Tanguay and Robert Lang were really cause for excitement heading into this season. Much of the talk was that Koivu’s line desperately needed a talented winger to replace Michael Ryder, and that Tanguay was the perfect fit for the Captain and Higgins. As it turns out Tanguay spent almost 30 games on the shelf, and Higgins had a “Michael Ryder-esque” seaon of his own scoring a pathetic 23 points. Now that Tanguay has returned we are finally able to really judge the kind of impact he could have had for the Canadiens had he not been injured, as he has totaled 41 points in 50 games. To add insult to injury (literally), Robert Lang’s numbers were eerily similar – scoring 39 point in 50 games with the Canadiens this season. One has to wonder what the Canadiens could have accomplished had these two savvy veterans been able to play out healthy 08-09.
The youngsters – While I did point out the underwhelming performances of Andrei Kostitsyn and Chris Higins, it should be noted that the youth movement which was touted as the team’s greatest strength last season took a step in the wrong direction to the dismay of the Habs nation. We all expected great things from Sergei, O’Byrne, Komisarek, and Price and were disappointed with steps back rather than forward. If it weren’t for the inspiring play of Max Lapierre and Gui Latendresse we might talk about the collapse of the youth of the Canadiens this season. The truth is, for much of this year the Habs relied on Mat D’Agostini and Max Pacioretti while those with actual NHL experience fell off of the map. Call it a collective sophomore jinx – whatever you have to do – the young Canadiens will need to step up next year since most of the veterans on this team are UFA’s come the end of this season.
L’Artiste – I’m not sure why, but I didn’t expect the Alex Kovalev disappearing act that we all witnessed this year. That being said, Kovalev has redeemed himself in my eyes since he has managed to catch fire at the end of the season when we need it most. He is back to scoring goals and making beautiful passes. Better late than never? When he and Markov are on the same page, we still have the most dangerous powerplay in the league.
In the end, the players I expected to have break out seasons didn’t, and those I didn’t have on my radar (hello Mathieu Schneider) had an impact that couldn’t be imagined. It was a crazy regular season, and I for one am glad to see it go. We are back in the same position we were last year – a first round playoff matchup with the big bad Bruins. While this team doesn’t have the same swagger that led them to 8 consecutive victories against the B’s, I still think we can beat them. It is a brand new season: time for all of those players who have had disappointing results to step up. It is not too late to turn around this season. We will need all hands to make it happen.
April 13, 2009 at 2:08 pm
It’s easy enough to look at the facts and make an intelligent guess as to what went wrong with this team this season. Yes, the losses of Lang (permanently so) and Tanguay (temporarily so) were huge setbacks. Yes, Kovalev took most of the season off (though not surprisingly to anyone who has followed his career as he certainly tends to alternate good seasons with poor ones). Yes, the Kostitsyns were the center of an off ice circus which very well may have affected their play more than suspected (although when you have the opportunity not only to play in the NHL but for its most storied franchise, you best discover manhood quickly). Yes, Laraque appeared to be struck with moral issues and thus deviate from his previous role of enforcer (not to mention, effective forechecker) which he performed so well in previous seasons. Yes, there were a number of underperformers (namely Koivu, Higgins and Plekanec) whose missing offensive contributions likely cost them a fair amount of games. Yes, the goaltending was inconsistent – too many back breaking goals allowed in too many games. And yes, Gillett is in financial trouble and shopping the team (but should this really matter all that much?).
To anyone who hadn’t watched a single game this season, it would be easy enough for them to look at that list and draw a conclusion about why the Habs were in danger of missing the playoffs near season’s end. (It might even come as a surprise that they made the playoffs at all.) But all of that aside, and to most of us who have followed this season under a microscope, there seemed to be something more going on with this team. Something inexplicable wiht so many players falling off the radar. Something that we may never know the true nature of, but something of a cancer. Carbonneau had said that the truth would come out in time and I’ll be all ears because the mystery, quite honestly, is annoying me – he has to know something which isn’t evident to the outside observer.
And while I do agree that a new season begins on Thursday night, and that the Habs (should) have the personnel to change their suspected fate, and also that they have inarguably shown a marked improvment since Gainey took over behind the bench, I will be among the most surprised (and elated) of fans if they are able to suddenly shake all of their 3-month old bad habits and play the way that we had all expected them to play this entire season. Because if they go in making the same mistakes that they had made even in their final game of the regular season, this will undoubtedly be a very short series.
Here’s to hoping to be surprised.