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  1. #1 chernevog says:
    September 22, 2006 at 11:02 am

    Err…. wtf is this?

  2. #2 habs#1fan says:
    September 22, 2006 at 12:57 pm

    yeah what the hell? A little bit of explanation perhaps. Are they gonna scrap it out or somethin?

  3. #3 Habs Blog says:
    September 22, 2006 at 1:15 pm

    Lol.

    Scrap it out figuratively, for the last forward spot.

    Perogie is not impressing and all the Guillaume hype is pushing him closer.

    Let’s see what he can do on the road in Toronto.

  4. #4 stevejur says:
    September 23, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    Man I know it’s pre-season but the Habs can’t stay out of the box.
    I hope this is not a sign of things to come.
    0-3 in the pre-season is a bad thing,
    it just goes to show that some of our young guys are not as good as we thought.

  5. #5 habs heart 1 says:
    September 23, 2006 at 9:51 pm

    Make that 0-4! And guess what? We open the season in Buffalo!Loss! Then we go to Toronto! loss! Then we go to Philadelphia!loss! then we’ll be 0-3! Wonderful start! By the way, in the game tonight, which we lost, of course, all 3 goals Montreal scored, were on the powerplay, which means we can’t score any even strength goals! And Toronto, didn’t even have all their regulars in the lineup. Sundin didn’t plat. we let rookies beat us, again! The habs are taking too many penalties, and their defence is HORRIBLE! Their offence is HORRIBLE TOO! T2 of the goals Toronto scored, should have been stopped! Well folks, this is going to be a long season, but short on the amount of time the Canadiens will play, because they won’t be in the playoffs!I told all of you, what the weaknesses of the habs are, and nobody listened. Are you listening now?

  6. #6 habsland here says:
    September 23, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    I agree with the last response. The habs don’t look ready for the season. Lots of work to be done. Are you listening Mr. Gainey?

  7. #7 Phil says:
    September 23, 2006 at 10:32 pm

    Relax guys the rookies are getting a chance. The team is in good hands. If this was the regular season…I would be worried. These games are against nothing teams and in the end mean little.Rather have slump now then in the regular season. I guess the press in Ontario and Quebec will hype the hell out of this.

  8. #8 Jack says:
    September 24, 2006 at 12:51 pm

    I agree with Phil; habsland and heart: take it easy. I’ll agree with you if this were the regular season. Nice to win now, sad to lose, but it means absolutely nothing (look at how Kovalev played last night — the pressure’s not yet on).

  9. #9 christin bertisilian says:
    September 24, 2006 at 1:16 pm

    i love hockey…im always playing hockey at schooollll…do u no how good i am..?????? BRIAN SAVANJE…yea ….he loves cuthing peoples sockssssssss…hahahahahah

  10. #10 josph serian says:
    September 24, 2006 at 1:19 pm

    hey all my frends…hahahha..do u love bababass..??????i do…u no why…because banana looks like all the hockey players

  11. #11 Razz says:
    September 24, 2006 at 3:52 pm

    That Huet guy isn’t looking too sharp to start things off. Seven goals allowed in 60 minutes of play ?! Good thing we have Abby to back him up.
    Hopefully now they will start trying to actually win the games.

    I liked Latendresse’s play last night. He is big and active. I barely notice when Perezhogin is playing. I say give Latendresse a chance to start the year, and send Perezhogin down. If if doesn’t work out after 10-12 games, then you can switch them again.

  12. #12 Phrank O'Fone says:
    September 24, 2006 at 5:49 pm

    Perezhogin won’t clear waivers – just like Hainsey last year.

  13. #13 Razz says:
    September 24, 2006 at 6:52 pm

    Clear waivers? How does that work? I thought Perezhogin was already under contract (pro contract) for this year.
    The other thing would be to put him in the lineup list at the beginning of the year, and a month or so from now put him down if he doesnt perform. In the meantime let Latendresse use Murray’s spot.

  14. #14 PACTUM SERVA says:
    September 24, 2006 at 9:54 pm

    lol relax guys this is just the preseason Wow i thought it would take a little longer before people started jumping OFF the bandwagon.Some things never change lol

  15. #15 Phrank O'Fone says:
    September 25, 2006 at 4:54 am

    If you send a player with an NHL contract to the minors, he has to clear waivers when he is recalled to the NHL. That is how Montreal lost Ron Hainsey to Columbus last season. If the player has a two way contract (2 different salaries depending on where he plays) he does not have to clear that hurdle and can be sent back and forth any number of times during the season.

    Like PACTOM said though, let’s relax here – it’s only training camp. There is no trophy at the end and no one gets eliminated. It’s just working out the wrinkles and smoothening rough edges. Getting line combos tunes, defense pairs reaquianted, and judginge some rookies against big league competition. Only the last three exhibition games matter much.

  16. #16 jay says:
    September 25, 2006 at 7:28 am

    Allright everyone, just a little bit of perspective here!IT’S PRE-season that means that most players (NHLERS not ROOKIES)like it or not spend their time wondering which broad on cresent street their going to bang after the game is done, before they go home to their wives.And not about the outcome of a meaningless hockey match made up of 60% hopefulls that will be on their way back to the minors anyway!!!Is it the right attitude..NO! But if the NHL was full of players like HIGGs and Koivu it would be a different league!having been at all three games in MTL, Samsonov looks like he just needs to find his stride, which is normal for any newcomer that plays a KEY position, as does Huet, give him at lease a good 10 games or so to get his form!Koivu looks to be about the best thing on the ice right now! But that’s why he’s the C. So ease up on the panic guys the season only starts in October! and until then…GO HABS GO !

  17. #17 Alestar says:
    September 25, 2006 at 12:28 pm

    RE: Latendresse taking a spot

    Found this quote on the TSN site:

    Following Montreal’s second exhibition game vs. the Bruins, new Habs coach Guy Carbonneau said he was disappointed in the Sergei Samsonov-Mike Ribiero-Alexei Kovalev line. While, last year’s camp sensation, winger Guillaume Latendresse, has been getting the locals in a froth again with his exciting play. “That’s fun,” said Carbonneau. “But the fans won’t put him on this team.” – Boston Globe

  18. #18 Habs Blog says:
    September 25, 2006 at 1:17 pm

    Every comment Carbonneau has made has been leaning towards him NOT being on the team. That’s why I think even if he scores 2 hat tricks he’s still gonna be sent back.

  19. #19 habsland here says:
    September 25, 2006 at 7:28 pm

    It would be a huge mistake to send Latandresse back to the minors. He can only gain experience by putting him in the lineup. Sending him back, will only hurt his confidence, and he will gain nothing. Give him a chance in the NHL to see what he can do. What will it take to stick with the big club? As far as I can see, he adds size, strength, and scoring talent, something the Canadiens dearly need, and are now lacking! How can Carbo take Ribeiro over Latandresse? I say send Ribeiro packing, he doesn’t belong. Give Latandresse a chance, because I really think he will do what Higgins did last year. Just let him play!

  20. #20 Frodo says:
    October 2, 2006 at 10:22 am

    I think rebeiro just needs a nother chance he is after all a prity good play maker sure hes not tough but he dose have some skill.

  21. #21 **Higgin's Chick** says:
    October 4, 2006 at 12:39 pm

    Some skill that we had enough of here in Monreal…I think we did a great thing trading him

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  • goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
  • Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
  • Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
  • goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
  • Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
  • Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
  • Avatar37 : «link»
  • Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
  • Avatar37 : «link»
  • Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
  • Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
  • Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
  • Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
  • goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
  • goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
  • goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
  • goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
  • Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
  • Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
  • Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
  • Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
  • rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
  • goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
  • rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
  • goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
  • rocky : Its true, there is no honor in that. These guys have only known the ethic of giving it all to win every night. I do not want them to "tank", and they will never do that anyway. I do want them to lose though, as awful as it sounds.
  • goalie : Roicky as a good point. We all want the Habs to get a really good draft pick. However, players, coaches etc. also have a keen desire to compete and win. That's why they're playing at the pro level. Thus we can only hope that the team plays some good games and let the chips fall where they may. After the disasterous season we've had let's not lower ourselves adn get involved in any dscussions about 'tanking' games.
  • rocky : So long.
  • Senet1 : Good discussion rocky, I have to step out for an hour, but may be back later.
  • Senet1 : The only way this team comes back to a team with long term potential is to draft a game breaker. Even all the other bad teams have a Stamkos or a player like him. He have some good player so what we need is a Malkin that we can count on 80% of the time to win a game for us.
  • rocky : I mean winning will only do them harm that is.
  • rocky : It really hurts because my reflexes make me want to cheer like mad, but it will only hurt the team now.
  • Senet1 : Yes I have mixed feeling when watching the game. Last night I say here we go again. with our record of shoot losses I did not expect to win that one. Yet I wanted to win real bad?????
  • rocky : God, so horrible to sit and hope for losses, but here we are.
  • Senet1 : Our problem is we play one out of every 4 games good and therefore, we play well enough to stay on the borderline of a top five pick. If we win three or four in a row we could take ourselves right out of the running.

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