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#1 chernevog says:
September 22, 2006 at 11:02 am

Err…. wtf is this?

#2 habs#1fan says:
September 22, 2006 at 12:57 pm

yeah what the hell? A little bit of explanation perhaps. Are they gonna scrap it out or somethin?

#3 Habs Blog says:
September 22, 2006 at 1:15 pm

Lol.

Scrap it out figuratively, for the last forward spot.

Perogie is not impressing and all the Guillaume hype is pushing him closer.

Let’s see what he can do on the road in Toronto.

#4 stevejur says:
September 23, 2006 at 7:30 pm

Man I know it’s pre-season but the Habs can’t stay out of the box.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come.
0-3 in the pre-season is a bad thing,
it just goes to show that some of our young guys are not as good as we thought.

#5 habs heart 1 says:
September 23, 2006 at 9:51 pm

Make that 0-4! And guess what? We open the season in Buffalo!Loss! Then we go to Toronto! loss! Then we go to Philadelphia!loss! then we’ll be 0-3! Wonderful start! By the way, in the game tonight, which we lost, of course, all 3 goals Montreal scored, were on the powerplay, which means we can’t score any even strength goals! And Toronto, didn’t even have all their regulars in the lineup. Sundin didn’t plat. we let rookies beat us, again! The habs are taking too many penalties, and their defence is HORRIBLE! Their offence is HORRIBLE TOO! T2 of the goals Toronto scored, should have been stopped! Well folks, this is going to be a long season, but short on the amount of time the Canadiens will play, because they won’t be in the playoffs!I told all of you, what the weaknesses of the habs are, and nobody listened. Are you listening now?

#6 habsland here says:
September 23, 2006 at 9:54 pm

I agree with the last response. The habs don’t look ready for the season. Lots of work to be done. Are you listening Mr. Gainey?

#7 Phil says:
September 23, 2006 at 10:32 pm

Relax guys the rookies are getting a chance. The team is in good hands. If this was the regular season…I would be worried. These games are against nothing teams and in the end mean little.Rather have slump now then in the regular season. I guess the press in Ontario and Quebec will hype the hell out of this.

#8 Jack says:
September 24, 2006 at 12:51 pm

I agree with Phil; habsland and heart: take it easy. I’ll agree with you if this were the regular season. Nice to win now, sad to lose, but it means absolutely nothing (look at how Kovalev played last night — the pressure’s not yet on).

#9 christin bertisilian says:
September 24, 2006 at 1:16 pm

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#10 josph serian says:
September 24, 2006 at 1:19 pm

hey all my frends…hahahha..do u love bababass..??????i do…u no why…because banana looks like all the hockey players

#11 Razz says:
September 24, 2006 at 3:52 pm

That Huet guy isn’t looking too sharp to start things off. Seven goals allowed in 60 minutes of play ?! Good thing we have Abby to back him up.
Hopefully now they will start trying to actually win the games.

I liked Latendresse’s play last night. He is big and active. I barely notice when Perezhogin is playing. I say give Latendresse a chance to start the year, and send Perezhogin down. If if doesn’t work out after 10-12 games, then you can switch them again.

#12 Phrank O'Fone says:
September 24, 2006 at 5:49 pm

Perezhogin won’t clear waivers – just like Hainsey last year.

#13 Razz says:
September 24, 2006 at 6:52 pm

Clear waivers? How does that work? I thought Perezhogin was already under contract (pro contract) for this year.
The other thing would be to put him in the lineup list at the beginning of the year, and a month or so from now put him down if he doesnt perform. In the meantime let Latendresse use Murray’s spot.

#14 PACTUM SERVA says:
September 24, 2006 at 9:54 pm

lol relax guys this is just the preseason Wow i thought it would take a little longer before people started jumping OFF the bandwagon.Some things never change lol

#15 Phrank O'Fone says:
September 25, 2006 at 4:54 am

If you send a player with an NHL contract to the minors, he has to clear waivers when he is recalled to the NHL. That is how Montreal lost Ron Hainsey to Columbus last season. If the player has a two way contract (2 different salaries depending on where he plays) he does not have to clear that hurdle and can be sent back and forth any number of times during the season.

Like PACTOM said though, let’s relax here – it’s only training camp. There is no trophy at the end and no one gets eliminated. It’s just working out the wrinkles and smoothening rough edges. Getting line combos tunes, defense pairs reaquianted, and judginge some rookies against big league competition. Only the last three exhibition games matter much.

#16 jay says:
September 25, 2006 at 7:28 am

Allright everyone, just a little bit of perspective here!IT’S PRE-season that means that most players (NHLERS not ROOKIES)like it or not spend their time wondering which broad on cresent street their going to bang after the game is done, before they go home to their wives.And not about the outcome of a meaningless hockey match made up of 60% hopefulls that will be on their way back to the minors anyway!!!Is it the right attitude..NO! But if the NHL was full of players like HIGGs and Koivu it would be a different league!having been at all three games in MTL, Samsonov looks like he just needs to find his stride, which is normal for any newcomer that plays a KEY position, as does Huet, give him at lease a good 10 games or so to get his form!Koivu looks to be about the best thing on the ice right now! But that’s why he’s the C. So ease up on the panic guys the season only starts in October! and until then…GO HABS GO !

#17 Alestar says:
September 25, 2006 at 12:28 pm

RE: Latendresse taking a spot

Found this quote on the TSN site:

Following Montreal’s second exhibition game vs. the Bruins, new Habs coach Guy Carbonneau said he was disappointed in the Sergei Samsonov-Mike Ribiero-Alexei Kovalev line. While, last year’s camp sensation, winger Guillaume Latendresse, has been getting the locals in a froth again with his exciting play. “That’s fun,” said Carbonneau. “But the fans won’t put him on this team.” – Boston Globe

#18 Habs Blog says:
September 25, 2006 at 1:17 pm

Every comment Carbonneau has made has been leaning towards him NOT being on the team. That’s why I think even if he scores 2 hat tricks he’s still gonna be sent back.

#19 habsland here says:
September 25, 2006 at 7:28 pm

It would be a huge mistake to send Latandresse back to the minors. He can only gain experience by putting him in the lineup. Sending him back, will only hurt his confidence, and he will gain nothing. Give him a chance in the NHL to see what he can do. What will it take to stick with the big club? As far as I can see, he adds size, strength, and scoring talent, something the Canadiens dearly need, and are now lacking! How can Carbo take Ribeiro over Latandresse? I say send Ribeiro packing, he doesn’t belong. Give Latandresse a chance, because I really think he will do what Higgins did last year. Just let him play!

#20 Frodo says:
October 2, 2006 at 10:22 am

I think rebeiro just needs a nother chance he is after all a prity good play maker sure hes not tough but he dose have some skill.

#21 **Higgin's Chick** says:
October 4, 2006 at 12:39 pm

Some skill that we had enough of here in Monreal…I think we did a great thing trading him

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goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.