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  • The Canadiens welcome the Leafs to the Bell Center tonight for their second meeting of the year.

    The Leafs are struggling defensively and will opt to start JS Aubin in nets over Andrew Raycroft.

    The Habs will go with Abeischer between the pipes who defeated the Leafs 3-2 earlier this year.

    Darcy Tucker is drawing attention for attacking Patrick Eaves and then turtling when challenged by Chris Neil among others. Don’t be surprised if Tucker gets involved tonight especially if they get down early.

    Remember the last time Tucker played in Montreal:

    These games speak for themselves.

    Habs and Leafs Saturday night.

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  1. #1 Habs#1 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 11:31 am

    You hit the nail on the head jay. Trade Kovalev for a centre or Kovalev and Ninnamaa for a young d-man.

  2. #2 Rob says:
    October 30, 2006 at 11:52 am

    I cannot believe that Lafleur stole my bit from the last series of posts when he called Kovalev a prima donna? Jeeezzz, that’s kinda funny considering the source! However, I am still waiting for Kovalev to release a CD of his instructions on how to play hockey that is set to dance tunes. Kovalev could call it “Dancin’ with myself.” Ahh, forget it, you guys probably don’t get the references anyways.

    Habs #1 — I like some of the trades that you are thinking about (post #46) However, no team of problematic players would be complete without Eric Lindros on it.

  3. #3 johnnyhab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 2:30 pm

    Looks like Kovalev and Samsonov are the new Theodore & Riberio

  4. #4 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:04 pm

    or however is not playing for like 3 games is instantly hated, hated, villified and told to be ‘TRADED! TRADED! TRADED!!!!11oneone!!!’ instantly.

    People need to shut up and have faith in the team. Including me.

  5. #5 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:05 pm

    in English that was -’or whoever is not playing well…’

    Either way the point is there.

  6. #6 katie says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    Lets go toronto lets go whoo Well Im not a canadian fan thats for sure!

  7. #7 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:36 pm

    VERY slow clap there

  8. #8 Rob says:
    October 30, 2006 at 4:04 pm

    What does ROFL stand for, anyways? I get that 1967 is the last time that the leafs won the cup, but what’s the rest about?

  9. #9 mab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 5:18 pm

    I Don’t know where everybody else was but Ive gone to the past two home games buffalo, toronto and going to ottawa also,

    I READ ABOUT EVERYBODY BASHING THE CANADIENS ALL THE TIME BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY’RE NOT THAT BAD I MEAN YES DEFENSE ON OUR TEAM STINKS SOME TIMES THIS GOALIE STINKS (**HUET**) BUT THE MAIN GUY THAT ALWAYS GETS LEFT OUT OF THE STINKS CATEGORY IS ….CAPTAIN SAKU KOIVU OUT OF ALL THE GAMES I’VE SEEN LIVE OR NOT HES ALWAYS BEEN THE PROBLEM NOT BECAUSE HES NOT GOOD OR NOT THE HEART BECAUSE HES GOT HEART BIG TIME DON’T GET ME WRONG BUT MAYBE HE SHOULDN’T BE PLAYING ON THE FIRST LINE HE SORT OF REMINDS ME OF THE FORMER SHARK PLAYER MIKE RICCI ALL HEART , GREAT COMPETITOR BUT NOTHING ELSE AND JUST MAYBE THATS WHY WE DONT PLAY GOOD I THINK ITS KOIVU’S TURN TO GO TO THE FOURTH LINE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE !!! I MEAN HE IS MAKING THE MOST ON THE TEAM BUT FOR WHAT JUST TO BE CAPTAIN ? DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.
    AND HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS BOARD WROTE ABOUT HOW BAD KOIVU PLAYED ON SATURDAY
    IS HE SPECIAL OR SOMETHING

  10. #10 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 5:38 pm

    ROFL – Rolling On the Floor Laughing

    Basically omfgwtfbbq

  11. #11 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 5:52 pm

    Koivu gets a pass, but you’re right he played a bad game on Sat. ANd to Habs #1 Apparently I did misread what you said, I guess you were standing up for SOuray. Too be honest I love what Rivet brings to the table in terms of grit but if you think he is starting six material on thsi team you are mistaken. Streit is improving and Rivet is declining fast. And no it was not one bad game. This has been a ongoing problem. If you want I can make a highlight tape for you gonig back to the beginning of last year. ANd no it wont be 3 minutes long like SOurays blunders.

  12. #12 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 6:00 pm

    I will make you a deal, when Rivet is dealt then we will start the Kovalev rants. You must remember the media in MOntreal is absurd, they will make a story out of anything. Sammy on teh 3rd he must want out! Kovalev got kicked out of a game. He doesnt care! Roy let in 9 goals in 35 minutes. Thank god Jablonski shut the door! Okay I added that last one in myself and let me guess Habs 1 that will offend you. Imagine in Roy had played the full 60 like he was paid to do, OUCH. ANyways the reason the media gets away with this is there are so many suckers that believe every word of it. NOw sarcasm, Lets trade Kovy, Sammy and SOuray for draft picks. Then lets call up Laperiere and Kostisyn, that will solve all our problems. CUp in 2015, yippee!

  13. #13 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    ANd no I dont want Yashin, and I was the one making fun of Arnason

  14. #14 Habs#1 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 6:54 pm

    Well looks like the Pipe Dream a lot of Montreal fans may have the slightest sliver of reality. Rumor has it that the new Philly GM is shopping Simon Gagne.

    For me, I think this is bull and will never happen, but if there is even the most minor chance that Gainey could get this guy, would you ecxept a Kovalev for Gagne trade?

    And Snake, how would I be affended?

  15. #15 habs suk says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:32 pm

    HABs SUK……….leafs beat them 5-4…and a defenceman-yes a defenceman- got a hat trick against them. You guys can’t even stop Tomas Kaberle…who needs McCabe. Leafs are the BEST…Canadians Suck. And you guys want to talk about flukes…try CHRISTOBAL HUET.

  16. #16 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:37 pm

    SHUT THE **** UP YOU GOOD FOR NOTHING ANTAGONISER! GO BACK TO YOUR LITTLE SQAULLER AND LEARN TO ACCEPT AN OT WIN AS NOTHING MORE THAN SHARED POINTS ******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you.

  17. #17 bauld says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:38 pm

    With all due respect, Saku Koivu, carved up eye and all, sees the ice better than any other Canadien on offense. Markhov is the other one that sees the ice exceedingly well. I’m sure anyone else that actually plays hockey would agree or have an opinion not much different than mine.

    Rivet was worrying on Saturday. Seemed like the Canadiens ‘D’ had a terrible time moving the puck out of their zone – it was painful to watch. Give T.O. credit for forechecking … but it was mostly using their large slow carcasses to protect the puck – as opposed to high-speed transition and forechecking. I was actually shocked that the Leafs managed 50+ shots on goal, because it didn’t feel that way.

    Regarding Aebischer, he has made some good saves, but he flails around too much after the first shot – bad positioning. His highlight reel saves have been pucks that have hit him in mid-flail. This will allow him to have some good games and some bad games, and make some spectacular saves, but will prevent him from rising to the level of a top-notch starter – just like when he was in Colorado.

  18. #18 bauld says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    To “habs suk”:

    You talk about flukes – the biggest fluke of all, and unfortunate for the civilized world, was the day you were conceived. Get a life.

  19. #19 Habs#1 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:48 pm

    Zing!!!!!

  20. #20 Rubberman says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    I love how every TOm, ****, Francois has their say on this blog. No one has any idea what Bob or Carbo are thinking or planning. I’m enjoying this year. You win some, you lose some. Overall, the HAbs are better. Could they improve? Sure, will they? Who in heck knows!!! BUT, WHEN PEOPLE CALL FOR TRADES, TRADE THIS GUY, THAT GUY. Be patient and that what BOb will do. As much as Kovelev is self-centred, he’s still a threat to opposing teams. Maybe that opens up the ice for other players… IT kills me to think this way, but I don’t see how the HAbs could pass into the 2nd playoff round. Their overall core (3rd line, 3-5th d-men) need to be solid and they’re not! However, I’ll cheer for them, by bummed out if they lose. Like you, they’re still THE TEAM! Go Habs Go!

  21. #21 PACTUM SERVA says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:30 pm

    “Habs suk” you are a perfect example of whats happens when your parents are first cousins.llllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooossssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

  22. #22 jay says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:52 pm

    @ Habs SUCK,

    You are the proverbeal “Load” your mom SHOULD have swallowed, Unfortunately for the rest of us that’s not what her JON had in mind that evening!!!

    @Bauld I guess “Habs SUCK’S” mother was busy that night as i’m assumung your brothers!!!

    @ Mab,

    What the hell are you talking about!!! Take Koivu out of the equation and that #1 line is esentially done! As in last years game 3 through 6 of the first round against Carolina…There is a reason Koivu’s got the “C” and not only is it because of his ON-ICE performance…But also his LOCKERROOM presence!Last year Koivu went I think it was 18 games without a goal, before breaking his drought with an overtime win against Atlanta! The thing to take from that is despite his “Slump” He came out and played hard EVERY NIGHT! making plays and getting assists! HE HAS HEART! and I DEFY you to find ANY team in the NHL that wouldn’t KILL to have him on their roster!!!So if ur going to slam KOIVU I don’t think this is the place to do it! And I’m pretty confident that any habs fan on this blog would disagree with me!!

    That being said…BRING ON OTTAWA!! Go HABS Go!!

  23. #23 jay says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:55 pm

    @ BAULD

    I’m sooo sorry I was so caught up in my thoughts about KOIVU that I READ something You wrote TO HABS SUCKS and thought you wrote something he did!!! Anyway My apologizies to you and your mother’s JON..(JUST KIDDING!)
    ICouldn’t resist!
    Sorry buddy!

    gO hABS gO!

  24. #24 jay says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:56 pm

    @ BAULD I’m sooo sorry I was so caught up in my thoughts about KOIVU that I READ something You wrote TO HABS SUCKS and thought you wrote something he did!!! Anyway My apologizies to you and your mother’s JON..(JUST KIDDING!)
    I Couldn’t resist!
    Sorry buddy!

    gO hABS gO!

  25. #25 johnnyhab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 9:38 pm

    come on Guys!! Rivet is a solid D-man. yes saturday was a bad game for him well not just him alone. Let’s not bad mouth our team when we are pissed. Take it out on the Leafs!!! Imagine if we had t.o’s defence

    go habs go

  26. #26 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 10:07 pm

    I like how that leafs fan commented how Kaberle sucks without McCabe. HE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HIS OWN TEAM. WHAT A ******. McCabe is obviously overated and Kaberle under appreciated. He probably didnt even watch the game. HE didnt even know it was a SO. HAHA its fans like him that make the Leafs look worse then they even are. AND THATS BAD.

    HAbs 1 : Kovy for Gagne, sure why not.

  27. #27 johnnyhab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 10:21 pm

    Yeah!! now thats what i’m talkin about

  28. #28 ROFL1967 says:
    October 31, 2006 at 12:39 am

    Tottaly Unrelated but Tomas Plekanec is 24 today.

    Celebrate extra hard by shouting at some trick or treaters, or getting Sheldon to level some.

  29. #29 mab says:
    October 31, 2006 at 2:59 pm

    like i said ### JAY ***
    KOIVU is good but he doesn’t deserve 4.75 million a year to be a captain and to be the team locker boy, or whatever else we all know and think of (EXCUSES) he supposed to play hockey thats it! YES HE HAS HEART, YES HE GIVES IT HIS ALL bLAH! BLAH ! bLAH! put every other aspect aside and remember what most hard headed people like you don’t understand IS he isn’t a FIRST LINER and HIGGINS is our new guy Koivu should be on the penalty kills, 2nd line maybe even the 3rd helping the other players develop and teach them how to play
    RYDER & HIGGINS DESERVE TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE BETTER OFFENSIVELY POINT FINAL!

    I THINK BEFORE ASKING FOR TRADES LIKE ALOT OF PEOPLE MAYBE ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE ON FIRST LINE YA THATS RIGHT KOIVU 2ND OR 3RD LINER
    AND HEY IF IT DOESN’T WORK THAN WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE

    BUT WE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY WITHOUT MAKING EXCUSES FOR WAS ,HAS AND MAYBE (KOIVU)

    HABS ALL THE WAY TONIGHT ABBY’S THE NEW GUY IN TOWN!!!

  30. #30 Joseph says:
    November 1, 2006 at 4:11 am

    Boy, that’s great, Katie. Not a ‘canadian fan’, hey?

    I know this is a little late but… what a terrible performance against a terrible team. And then they show up for (maybe) 10 minutes and send it to a shootout? Imagine what might have happened had the Habs played 60 minutes.

    Can’t let those ‘gimme points’ get away. Get it together, team.

  31. #31 Leaf Fan says:
    March 20, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    The Habs suck Leafs are way better then the Habs. Tucker is a good hockey player he has a lot of goals and hes benn out most of the season. Abby your goalie is really bad Raycroft is much better

    Leafs are the best

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  • goalie : Didn't get to see the game at all but it's great to see Pacs get a hat trick and fpor Cole to be + 3. When was the last time this team won three games in a row? Great victory -looks like they're giving 100% effort!
  • Senet1 : 4-2 win habs
  • Senet1 : Gomez scores, Yea!!!
  • goalie : As I said yesterday it will be interesting to see what our lame ass GM gets for players he ships out. Bourque is good and he'll help us but I still think we could have gotten more for him and for Halak when he was traded.
  • Avatar37 : round those picks occur (probably 3rd).
  • Avatar37 : An interesting article. If we slip to the 5th or 7th draft pick, a very interesting case could be made for drafting Galchenyuk. If we wind up with the second or third pick, I'm not sure who I'd draft, because clearly Yakupov is going to be drafted first overall. Our second round pick also becomes interesting, I know I'd take Vasilevski if he were still available. It will also be interesting to see if we can turn some of our veteran players (Moen, Gill, Campoli) into draft picks, and what
  • Avatar37 : «link»
  • Avatar37 : That is why PG should have waited on trading Cammalleri. Right now, there is a high demand for a top 6 forward, we could have gotten much more than Bourque in return. That isn't a knock against Bourque, but a knock against a knee-jerk reaction trade that didn't maximize our return on a top asset.
  • Avatar37 : «link»
  • Avatar37 : chips fall where they may. After all, the only difference between finishing 17th and 29th is how good a pick you get in the draft.
  • Avatar37 : We currently sit in 26th place in the league. We are 15 points ahead of Columbus, it's safe to bet at this point they will place last. We are, however, only 4 points ahead of Edmonton so it's still wide open as to who is going to finish second last. I still think that it's time to sit the veterans, play the youth, let them get experience, and regroup for next year. I'm not suggesting deliberately tanking like the Penguins, but give all our young players lots of playing time and let the c
  • Avatar37 : goalie - If it were not for the play of Cammalleri, we would never have made it out of round 1. Cammalleri played as big a part, if not bigger, than Halak did. Sure, Halak played well, but remember the team collapsed in front of him, making his job much easier. We had lots of blocked shots and the ones that got through were typically from the outside.
  • Senet1 : Goalie you are absolutely right, of course the one thing we had the two previous years that won the games that we are losing this year was our power play. If you look at say 10 games that we should have won had we had a similar power play, again we would not be having these conversations. When your PP goes from first to last in the league that is a lot of goals.How many games have we lost this year by one goal. Again poor management who did not prepare for Markov's possible absence.
  • goalie : I'll put it another way.... we need more players who are willing to get their noses dirty.
  • goalie : Two years ago when our goaltending stole series adn our players suddenly scored the coaches / GM believed that that was our true team . Well time has proven that was not. Though I was very glad to see the Habs knock off some very good teams we were very fortunate. And fortunate that spring was spelled HALAK!
  • goalie : The wrst mistake management could possibly make I believe is to say, we played well some games and we believe the team can play to that level more often in the future. This team CANNOT adnb DOES NOT play to a high enough level. Please do not kid yourself mamngement. hat is partially why we're in the lace we are.
  • goalie : Senet is correct when he says that if we had more games with a better efort this year we'd likely be in the playoffs. It has been very inconsistent effort but much more than that. We lack big, tough playing and finishing. Never mind fighting for a moment. We did not compete for the pucks nor along the boards nor in front of both nets enough this year. Thus we are in 29th. If the coaching staff doesn't see that then they shouldn't be there.
  • Senet1 : Surely Molson is not going to keep him as the GM?
  • Senet1 : when he knows he will be fired at the end of the season. Nothing really makes since in this whole process.
  • Senet1 : I am not sue why PG has not been fired by now. They could be waiting for another GM to come available at season end, but why would you not set up a committee to manage the team in the short run until a new GM can be named. There is no since in chaning coaches because whoever the GM is he will want to name his own coach. Gainey and a committe of other executives can manage the team through to the trading deadline and onward. What motivation does PG have to making any worthwhile trades when he is
  • Senet1 : I am too mch of a competitor to want my team to tank to. However, If these players played like they ae cabable of playing all year we would not be having this discussion right now, we woud be talking about the playoffs and who we would rather meet in the first round.
  • rocky : Exactly, and Senet nails it when he says we have not had an elite top 5 in the nhl player since lafleur.
  • goalie : I too want the Habs to get the best possible draft this June. We all need SOME hope!
  • rocky : He is persona non grata in habville, and a ghost in every sense of the term.
  • goalie : It remains a miracle how we have heard from our mighty GM twice since Christmas - the trades involving Spacek and Cammy and those comments were extremely brief. PG just does not cut it in my world. Part of a GMs job is to go public from time to time. PG never does that in fact he's a ghost GM!
  • rocky : Its true, there is no honor in that. These guys have only known the ethic of giving it all to win every night. I do not want them to "tank", and they will never do that anyway. I do want them to lose though, as awful as it sounds.
  • goalie : Roicky as a good point. We all want the Habs to get a really good draft pick. However, players, coaches etc. also have a keen desire to compete and win. That's why they're playing at the pro level. Thus we can only hope that the team plays some good games and let the chips fall where they may. After the disasterous season we've had let's not lower ourselves adn get involved in any dscussions about 'tanking' games.
  • rocky : So long.
  • Senet1 : Good discussion rocky, I have to step out for an hour, but may be back later.
  • Senet1 : The only way this team comes back to a team with long term potential is to draft a game breaker. Even all the other bad teams have a Stamkos or a player like him. He have some good player so what we need is a Malkin that we can count on 80% of the time to win a game for us.
  • rocky : I mean winning will only do them harm that is.
  • rocky : It really hurts because my reflexes make me want to cheer like mad, but it will only hurt the team now.
  • Senet1 : Yes I have mixed feeling when watching the game. Last night I say here we go again. with our record of shoot losses I did not expect to win that one. Yet I wanted to win real bad?????
  • rocky : God, so horrible to sit and hope for losses, but here we are.
  • Senet1 : Our problem is we play one out of every 4 games good and therefore, we play well enough to stay on the borderline of a top five pick. If we win three or four in a row we could take ourselves right out of the running.

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