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  • The Canadiens welcome the Leafs to the Bell Center tonight for their second meeting of the year.

    The Leafs are struggling defensively and will opt to start JS Aubin in nets over Andrew Raycroft.

    The Habs will go with Abeischer between the pipes who defeated the Leafs 3-2 earlier this year.

    Darcy Tucker is drawing attention for attacking Patrick Eaves and then turtling when challenged by Chris Neil among others. Don’t be surprised if Tucker gets involved tonight especially if they get down early.

    Remember the last time Tucker played in Montreal:

    These games speak for themselves.

    Habs and Leafs Saturday night.

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  1. #1 Habs#1 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 11:31 am

    You hit the nail on the head jay. Trade Kovalev for a centre or Kovalev and Ninnamaa for a young d-man.

  2. #2 Rob says:
    October 30, 2006 at 11:52 am

    I cannot believe that Lafleur stole my bit from the last series of posts when he called Kovalev a prima donna? Jeeezzz, that’s kinda funny considering the source! However, I am still waiting for Kovalev to release a CD of his instructions on how to play hockey that is set to dance tunes. Kovalev could call it “Dancin’ with myself.” Ahh, forget it, you guys probably don’t get the references anyways.

    Habs #1 — I like some of the trades that you are thinking about (post #46) However, no team of problematic players would be complete without Eric Lindros on it.

  3. #3 johnnyhab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 2:30 pm

    Looks like Kovalev and Samsonov are the new Theodore & Riberio

  4. #4 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:04 pm

    or however is not playing for like 3 games is instantly hated, hated, villified and told to be ‘TRADED! TRADED! TRADED!!!!11oneone!!!’ instantly.

    People need to shut up and have faith in the team. Including me.

  5. #5 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:05 pm

    in English that was -’or whoever is not playing well…’

    Either way the point is there.

  6. #6 katie says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    Lets go toronto lets go whoo Well Im not a canadian fan thats for sure!

  7. #7 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 3:36 pm

    VERY slow clap there

  8. #8 Rob says:
    October 30, 2006 at 4:04 pm

    What does ROFL stand for, anyways? I get that 1967 is the last time that the leafs won the cup, but what’s the rest about?

  9. #9 mab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 5:18 pm

    I Don’t know where everybody else was but Ive gone to the past two home games buffalo, toronto and going to ottawa also,

    I READ ABOUT EVERYBODY BASHING THE CANADIENS ALL THE TIME BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY’RE NOT THAT BAD I MEAN YES DEFENSE ON OUR TEAM STINKS SOME TIMES THIS GOALIE STINKS (**HUET**) BUT THE MAIN GUY THAT ALWAYS GETS LEFT OUT OF THE STINKS CATEGORY IS ….CAPTAIN SAKU KOIVU OUT OF ALL THE GAMES I’VE SEEN LIVE OR NOT HES ALWAYS BEEN THE PROBLEM NOT BECAUSE HES NOT GOOD OR NOT THE HEART BECAUSE HES GOT HEART BIG TIME DON’T GET ME WRONG BUT MAYBE HE SHOULDN’T BE PLAYING ON THE FIRST LINE HE SORT OF REMINDS ME OF THE FORMER SHARK PLAYER MIKE RICCI ALL HEART , GREAT COMPETITOR BUT NOTHING ELSE AND JUST MAYBE THATS WHY WE DONT PLAY GOOD I THINK ITS KOIVU’S TURN TO GO TO THE FOURTH LINE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE !!! I MEAN HE IS MAKING THE MOST ON THE TEAM BUT FOR WHAT JUST TO BE CAPTAIN ? DOESN’T MAKE SENSE.
    AND HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS BOARD WROTE ABOUT HOW BAD KOIVU PLAYED ON SATURDAY
    IS HE SPECIAL OR SOMETHING

  10. #10 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 5:38 pm

    ROFL – Rolling On the Floor Laughing

    Basically omfgwtfbbq

  11. #11 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 5:52 pm

    Koivu gets a pass, but you’re right he played a bad game on Sat. ANd to Habs #1 Apparently I did misread what you said, I guess you were standing up for SOuray. Too be honest I love what Rivet brings to the table in terms of grit but if you think he is starting six material on thsi team you are mistaken. Streit is improving and Rivet is declining fast. And no it was not one bad game. This has been a ongoing problem. If you want I can make a highlight tape for you gonig back to the beginning of last year. ANd no it wont be 3 minutes long like SOurays blunders.

  12. #12 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 6:00 pm

    I will make you a deal, when Rivet is dealt then we will start the Kovalev rants. You must remember the media in MOntreal is absurd, they will make a story out of anything. Sammy on teh 3rd he must want out! Kovalev got kicked out of a game. He doesnt care! Roy let in 9 goals in 35 minutes. Thank god Jablonski shut the door! Okay I added that last one in myself and let me guess Habs 1 that will offend you. Imagine in Roy had played the full 60 like he was paid to do, OUCH. ANyways the reason the media gets away with this is there are so many suckers that believe every word of it. NOw sarcasm, Lets trade Kovy, Sammy and SOuray for draft picks. Then lets call up Laperiere and Kostisyn, that will solve all our problems. CUp in 2015, yippee!

  13. #13 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    ANd no I dont want Yashin, and I was the one making fun of Arnason

  14. #14 Habs#1 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 6:54 pm

    Well looks like the Pipe Dream a lot of Montreal fans may have the slightest sliver of reality. Rumor has it that the new Philly GM is shopping Simon Gagne.

    For me, I think this is bull and will never happen, but if there is even the most minor chance that Gainey could get this guy, would you ecxept a Kovalev for Gagne trade?

    And Snake, how would I be affended?

  15. #15 habs suk says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:32 pm

    HABs SUK……….leafs beat them 5-4…and a defenceman-yes a defenceman- got a hat trick against them. You guys can’t even stop Tomas Kaberle…who needs McCabe. Leafs are the BEST…Canadians Suck. And you guys want to talk about flukes…try CHRISTOBAL HUET.

  16. #16 ROFL1967 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:37 pm

    SHUT THE **** UP YOU GOOD FOR NOTHING ANTAGONISER! GO BACK TO YOUR LITTLE SQAULLER AND LEARN TO ACCEPT AN OT WIN AS NOTHING MORE THAN SHARED POINTS ******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you.

  17. #17 bauld says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:38 pm

    With all due respect, Saku Koivu, carved up eye and all, sees the ice better than any other Canadien on offense. Markhov is the other one that sees the ice exceedingly well. I’m sure anyone else that actually plays hockey would agree or have an opinion not much different than mine.

    Rivet was worrying on Saturday. Seemed like the Canadiens ‘D’ had a terrible time moving the puck out of their zone – it was painful to watch. Give T.O. credit for forechecking … but it was mostly using their large slow carcasses to protect the puck – as opposed to high-speed transition and forechecking. I was actually shocked that the Leafs managed 50+ shots on goal, because it didn’t feel that way.

    Regarding Aebischer, he has made some good saves, but he flails around too much after the first shot – bad positioning. His highlight reel saves have been pucks that have hit him in mid-flail. This will allow him to have some good games and some bad games, and make some spectacular saves, but will prevent him from rising to the level of a top-notch starter – just like when he was in Colorado.

  18. #18 bauld says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:41 pm

    To “habs suk”:

    You talk about flukes – the biggest fluke of all, and unfortunate for the civilized world, was the day you were conceived. Get a life.

  19. #19 Habs#1 says:
    October 30, 2006 at 7:48 pm

    Zing!!!!!

  20. #20 Rubberman says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:28 pm

    I love how every TOm, ****, Francois has their say on this blog. No one has any idea what Bob or Carbo are thinking or planning. I’m enjoying this year. You win some, you lose some. Overall, the HAbs are better. Could they improve? Sure, will they? Who in heck knows!!! BUT, WHEN PEOPLE CALL FOR TRADES, TRADE THIS GUY, THAT GUY. Be patient and that what BOb will do. As much as Kovelev is self-centred, he’s still a threat to opposing teams. Maybe that opens up the ice for other players… IT kills me to think this way, but I don’t see how the HAbs could pass into the 2nd playoff round. Their overall core (3rd line, 3-5th d-men) need to be solid and they’re not! However, I’ll cheer for them, by bummed out if they lose. Like you, they’re still THE TEAM! Go Habs Go!

  21. #21 PACTUM SERVA says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:30 pm

    “Habs suk” you are a perfect example of whats happens when your parents are first cousins.llllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooossssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

  22. #22 jay says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:52 pm

    @ Habs SUCK,

    You are the proverbeal “Load” your mom SHOULD have swallowed, Unfortunately for the rest of us that’s not what her JON had in mind that evening!!!

    @Bauld I guess “Habs SUCK’S” mother was busy that night as i’m assumung your brothers!!!

    @ Mab,

    What the hell are you talking about!!! Take Koivu out of the equation and that #1 line is esentially done! As in last years game 3 through 6 of the first round against Carolina…There is a reason Koivu’s got the “C” and not only is it because of his ON-ICE performance…But also his LOCKERROOM presence!Last year Koivu went I think it was 18 games without a goal, before breaking his drought with an overtime win against Atlanta! The thing to take from that is despite his “Slump” He came out and played hard EVERY NIGHT! making plays and getting assists! HE HAS HEART! and I DEFY you to find ANY team in the NHL that wouldn’t KILL to have him on their roster!!!So if ur going to slam KOIVU I don’t think this is the place to do it! And I’m pretty confident that any habs fan on this blog would disagree with me!!

    That being said…BRING ON OTTAWA!! Go HABS Go!!

  23. #23 jay says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:55 pm

    @ BAULD

    I’m sooo sorry I was so caught up in my thoughts about KOIVU that I READ something You wrote TO HABS SUCKS and thought you wrote something he did!!! Anyway My apologizies to you and your mother’s JON..(JUST KIDDING!)
    ICouldn’t resist!
    Sorry buddy!

    gO hABS gO!

  24. #24 jay says:
    October 30, 2006 at 8:56 pm

    @ BAULD I’m sooo sorry I was so caught up in my thoughts about KOIVU that I READ something You wrote TO HABS SUCKS and thought you wrote something he did!!! Anyway My apologizies to you and your mother’s JON..(JUST KIDDING!)
    I Couldn’t resist!
    Sorry buddy!

    gO hABS gO!

  25. #25 johnnyhab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 9:38 pm

    come on Guys!! Rivet is a solid D-man. yes saturday was a bad game for him well not just him alone. Let’s not bad mouth our team when we are pissed. Take it out on the Leafs!!! Imagine if we had t.o’s defence

    go habs go

  26. #26 Snake says:
    October 30, 2006 at 10:07 pm

    I like how that leafs fan commented how Kaberle sucks without McCabe. HE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HIS OWN TEAM. WHAT A ******. McCabe is obviously overated and Kaberle under appreciated. He probably didnt even watch the game. HE didnt even know it was a SO. HAHA its fans like him that make the Leafs look worse then they even are. AND THATS BAD.

    HAbs 1 : Kovy for Gagne, sure why not.

  27. #27 johnnyhab says:
    October 30, 2006 at 10:21 pm

    Yeah!! now thats what i’m talkin about

  28. #28 ROFL1967 says:
    October 31, 2006 at 12:39 am

    Tottaly Unrelated but Tomas Plekanec is 24 today.

    Celebrate extra hard by shouting at some trick or treaters, or getting Sheldon to level some.

  29. #29 mab says:
    October 31, 2006 at 2:59 pm

    like i said ### JAY ***
    KOIVU is good but he doesn’t deserve 4.75 million a year to be a captain and to be the team locker boy, or whatever else we all know and think of (EXCUSES) he supposed to play hockey thats it! YES HE HAS HEART, YES HE GIVES IT HIS ALL bLAH! BLAH ! bLAH! put every other aspect aside and remember what most hard headed people like you don’t understand IS he isn’t a FIRST LINER and HIGGINS is our new guy Koivu should be on the penalty kills, 2nd line maybe even the 3rd helping the other players develop and teach them how to play
    RYDER & HIGGINS DESERVE TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE BETTER OFFENSIVELY POINT FINAL!

    I THINK BEFORE ASKING FOR TRADES LIKE ALOT OF PEOPLE MAYBE ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE ON FIRST LINE YA THATS RIGHT KOIVU 2ND OR 3RD LINER
    AND HEY IF IT DOESN’T WORK THAN WE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE

    BUT WE SHOULD AT LEAST TRY WITHOUT MAKING EXCUSES FOR WAS ,HAS AND MAYBE (KOIVU)

    HABS ALL THE WAY TONIGHT ABBY’S THE NEW GUY IN TOWN!!!

  30. #30 Joseph says:
    November 1, 2006 at 4:11 am

    Boy, that’s great, Katie. Not a ‘canadian fan’, hey?

    I know this is a little late but… what a terrible performance against a terrible team. And then they show up for (maybe) 10 minutes and send it to a shootout? Imagine what might have happened had the Habs played 60 minutes.

    Can’t let those ‘gimme points’ get away. Get it together, team.

  31. #31 Leaf Fan says:
    March 20, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    The Habs suck Leafs are way better then the Habs. Tucker is a good hockey player he has a lot of goals and hes benn out most of the season. Abby your goalie is really bad Raycroft is much better

    Leafs are the best

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  • goalie : I don't know when they'll announce it but the Oilers will be signing Sutter (Flames ex-coach) to coach their team - that's why Kevin Lowe chose him to coach in the World's. That was the world's worst kept secret.
  • Senet1 : I guess I wish we could get it done so all the speculating was over and we can get to building out team.
  • goalie : I can't type.... what a faux pas on my behalf...
  • goalie : I just realized what I said adn didn't say yesterday. What a fayx as on my behalf. Regarding coaching Randy Cunnyworth MUSDT stay as an assistant- he deserves at least that after the tremendous job he did in the latter part of this past season. I'd still mlike to have Robinson, Carbo adn Allard on the staff also.
  • Avatar37 : I agree Senet, my choice if we can't have Cunneyworth would be Crawford, Robinson on defense, Cunneyworth for offense, and Carbo as offense/faceoffs .
  • Senet1 : I think if I had my choice it would be Crawford and see if he could get Carbo and Robinson as assistants. That would be my idea coaching team.
  • goalie : I witnesed Marc Crawford MANY times when the Avs, etc. played against Oilers and let me tell you - he is constantly on the referees asses virtually game after game. He is the complete OPPOSITE of J. Martin. Crawford is calm on TSN but he is one excited coach behind the bench. A friend of mine who was an NHL linesman for 26 years said they dreaded Crawford he was so tough on the officials!
  • goalie : You know, I've bee thinking about the coaching situation. I'd be really excited if the Habs had Hartley as head coach and Carbo adn Robinson as his assistants. I also read it somewhere about a month ago that Toronto's goalie coach Allard (?) wants to relocate back to Montreal where he has his goaltending school/business. Add him to the mix and I'd say the Habs would be in great shape coaching wise.
  • Avatar37 : Well, from what I recall, Hartley didn't do all that well with the Thrashers. But, I don't know enough about him to judge one way or the other. Crawford I do know, and he always seemed to be a good, level headed coach to me.
  • Senet1 : even Pacioretty two years ago did not impress any of us. Younger players have to play and make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. If they sit in the press box they are learning nothing.
  • Senet1 : Of course if he have some good assistants like a Larry Robinson to teach the young defence and someone like Carbo to teach faceoffs etc. then your coach does not have to be as good at teaching. If Hartley fits the bill you get no argument from me. My only previous point is that if he is impatient with your younger players to the point that he does not play them, then we are right back where we were with Martin. Martin was a good coach too, but how he handled Emelin, PK and even Pacioretty two
  • goalie : I would like to see the Habs sign a coach who realizes that our team isn't tough enough (we need to get bigger and somewhat more nastier),the coach needs t be a great TEACHER and be a coach who can get the players to understand and buy into his system. Other than that I couldn't care what lingo he speaks. I wnat to see our team become a ligitimate contender fast!
  • HabsLoseAgain : Well we dont know if he is or is not a teaching coach. I woukd just hate to paint Hartley something that he is not. There will always be questions but if Hartley was hired as the habs new bench boss i for one would not be overly upset.
  • Senet1 : My thoughts are not that he is or is not a good coach but rather that when he won the cup he had an experience team of superstars on that team. Where as we have a group of young inexperienced players, is he a teaching coach or a tactical coach or both? I am not question whether he is a good coach, but my question therefore is he the coach for us at this point in the deveopment of our team?? Not sure we are all purely speculating at the moment?
  • Senet1 : Something happened to my first post. I will try again.
  • Senet1 : That is why I said I am not sure he is the coach for us at this time? Right now we are all speculating including yourself, because non of us know for sure?
  • HabsLoseAgain : Crawford also won a cup with Patrick Roy so would you say he is a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best goaltenders of alltime?
  • HabsLoseAgain : Senrt so please give me some reasons why you think Hartley is not the coach the habs need right now. What is it that you do not like about him or his coaching style?
  • HabsLoseAgain : Well all great coaches had great players playing for them so i guess you you add a a pile of other coaches to that list including Bowan......
  • Senet1 : Hartley, was he a good coach or did he just have great players and one of the best altime goaltenders of all time. I am not sure that he is the type of coach that this organization needs right now. Unless of course we sign a ton of free agents.
  • Avatar37 : However, my feelings may completely be wrong, Hartley may turn out to be a good fit.
  • Avatar37 : I didn't say Hartley was unknown, I said we demoted a good coach in Cunneyworth and now have an unknown quantity because we don't have a coach. I don't have that great a feeling about Hartley, I'd be much more comfortable with Crawford.
  • HabsLoseAgain : In my opinion i think he might be a good fit in montreal. Oh and he also likes to have a tough team.
  • HabsLoseAgain : Also this year he coached the ZSC Lions to the swiss championship title.
  • HabsLoseAgain : lol the so called "unknown" won a cup in 2000-2001 with the colarado avalanch.
  • HabsLoseAgain : lol Bob Hartley is not an unknown lol.....sheesh.
  • Senet1 : I think he has until the trading deadline to show us that he deserves to be on this team. If he does not get back on track then he could be simply a 2nd round draft pick to whoever we can trade him to.
  • Avatar37 : Bourque reminds me of Pouliot, size, skill, and invisible. He needs to get back to playing a physical game and bang people around and maybe he'll start getting some of those garbage goals again. Need to get to the front of the net. I hope he can find his game again.
  • Avatar37 : We had a good coach in Randy Cunneyworth. Now we have an unknown, with Bob Hartley rumoured to be the front runner. I'd rather have Cunneyworth.
  • goalie : A player like Rene Bourwue has al the physical attributes of what would be a beter than average player. Hwever, he certainly didn't play that well especially after being in Montreal about three weeks. We NEED players like Rene to play hard AND produce points on a REGULAR BASIS in order for us to be competitive.
  • Senet1 : MONTREAL – Rene Bourque had a rocky start to his career as a Hab, but he’s planning on using the next four years to make up for it. After arriving in Montreal under less-than-ideal circumstances in January, Bourque spent the following 38 games hoping to find the spark he needed to rekindle his offensive production. Despite flanking Tomas Plekanec on the team’s second line to close out the season, the 30-year-old sniper suddenly found himself firing blanks in his new NHL home.
  • Senet1 : I think we have to be patient and not expect too much too soon. Let's get a strong management team in place, make a good choices in the draft get a good coach and then see what we need at the free agent market. I will not be too disapointed if we miss the playoffs again next year if it means a long term team success. We have the opportunity to make some major strides over the next two years at the draft table. Then we fill in the holes.
  • goalie : I certainly agree that we need to get some impact forwards who will sign for 5 years, not for a season then walk away. That's not going to help us.
  • goalie : I wouldn't trade PK for Ovetchkin no matter what. He is a coach's NIGHTMARE and a poor team player.
  • Senet1 : I believe he will as we graducally put better players around him and build this team.

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