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Habs / Bruins: Game 5

  • The Bruins have played as good as they possibly can and still find themselves down 3-1 in the series.

    On the verge of elimination.

    The Habs have not yet played their best and are just one game away from advancing to the second round.

    91% of teams leading 3-1 end up winning the series.

    The Habs and Bruins being involved in one of those few upsets. The 7th seed Canadiens came back from a 3-1 Bruins series lead to advance to the second round in 2004.

    Some more offensive production from the regular season’s highest scoring team would be a welcome sign. As well as a more efficient powerplay.

    With Carey Price leading the NHL Playoffs in Save Percentage and G.A.A, some more offense from the Canadiens should be enough to get it done in 5.

    Mark Streit will rest an injured hip and Michael Ryder returns to the lineup.

  1. #2 Tony from NB says:
    April 17, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Note to all Habs fans who have allowed me to express my “intelligent” opinion on this site over the last week:

    “Jrs and BsFan”…are a couple of ignorant douche bags..who make the rest of us look like a-holes….YOU ARE EMBARRASING ME!

    Price is an excellent goalie, who pretty much single handily won Games 2 & 4

    Tony from North Boston

  2. Tony from North Boston,you have a great nite tonite man,your team played a good game again and deserved the win.

  3. #4 Joseph says:
    April 17, 2008 at 11:33 pm


    I was a bit hard on you at the start. My apologies. My troll defenses are on auto this time of year. (Given a couple of new guests, I’m sure that you can imagine why.)

    I appreciate your objectivity, so here’s some of mine: Montreal does not have what it takes to complete for the Cup this season. I apologize for slamming your team a bit, but I think that the Habs will beat them in the next two games to win this series. Even if it means Price bouncing back to steal another game. However, either Philly or Pittsburgh would destroy this Habs team if this is all that they have to bring to the table. As would New York.

  4. #5 Joseph says:
    April 17, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    complete = compete

  5. #6 Tony from NB says:
    April 17, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Xtrahabsfan & Joseph…much appreciated.

    I enjoy this site for “real” hockey opinion. Unlike the garbage on some of the “beantown” sites.

    FYI: If your into football/baseball blogs, try “”, it’s an open source sports network, anybody can publish articles. Not enough hockey material…maybe you can get that moving?


  6. #7 Joseph says:
    April 18, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Of course I’m into football and baseball blogs – I’m an American! 😉

    Thanks for the heads up. I’ll definitely check that out.

  7. #8 Kovy4Prez says:
    April 18, 2008 at 2:05 am

    OK Les Boyz: Habz got caught up in the media hype – they thought they were great tonight for just showing up. Now they know better. Expect an awesome game Saturday night. Bring on Round 2. Rest easy, my friends, rest easy.

  8. yah guys don’t worry, the habs will win the next game, and maybe Koiivu will be there by then.

  9. Price finally had a bad game. I think that Montreal has to start scoring goals big time. But Price will be amazing next game and it will all end on saturday.

  10. #11 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 9:05 am

    Price is only Human! Price did his fair share to keep Montreal’s sorry Freakin Asses in this series. IF the Habs wanted this series and wanted to play a full 60 minutes (which they have seldom done all year) this series would have been over at 4 games and Price would not have been embarrassed. Brodeur gave up some pretty awful goals in the playoffs this year as well and he is a great Goalie. Every great Goalie will have a meltdown every now and then. I’ve seen Roy & Dryden get blown out in the playoff before.

    Will Montreal learn from this? NO! They won’t. Montreal should have learned from the 2nd game that they have to score more than 1-2 goals a game to win a playoff series.

    Koivu can and may play the next game, but what good will ne be? He will not be at 100%. If he is not 100%, then leave him out.

    I guess that Ryder will be the whipping Boy again for this loss. Just wait til Ryder plays with Boston next year. I hope for every goal he scores on the Habs(and there will be many) he goes over to carbo and gives him every puck.

    Well, Boston has won this series BUT Montreal just don’t know it yet!

  11. #12 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Why do Habs Fans Have to Bash Price after one bad game? The Dominator for Detroit got pulled the last game. Brodeur is not playing well as he should. Come on Shit happens to the best of Goalies.

    One Bad game and many are calling for Halak. Not on this blog, but other blogs.

    Price has carried this team since he was made the #1 Goalie. Now Fans are ready to throw him under the Bus.

    Montreal dose not deserve a great Goalie.

    Habs fans have class? Well, A lot do not.

  12. #13 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 10:33 am

    I am not superstitious. 2004 first round playoff, Habs won Bruins from 3-1 deficit by game 7: The head coach then was Claude Julien.

    Habs and nation should raise the alert level.

    Now it’s the competition between Carbo and Julien. If Carbo didn’t put his two leaders (Saku, the offense leader; Bouillon, the defense leader) onto the lineups, he would be now or never. I am not over pessimistic, but that’s the war!!!

    Now it’s the time: Coaching strategy MATTERS; Leadership MATTERS!

  13. #14 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Continuing my #60, if Carbo wanted to keep Saku and Francis as secret weapons for Game 7, he would be the candidate for most stupid coach 2007-2008.

  14. #15 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 11:20 am


    What did I say that was wrong.

  15. #16 groundworking says:
    April 18, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Players have bad games, and Price is young. It doesn’t bother me at all from a worrying about winning perspective to see Price boot a game. What bothers me is the following:

    Please rate the playoff performance of the following players since Game 1: Plekanec, S. Kostitsyn, A. Kostitsyn, Markov, Higgins, Ryder. [Now I consider Ryder to be lazy and useless, but he had a chance to redeem himself in the playoffs and he’s been absolutely pathetic.]

    And then rate the performance of the following players since Game 1:
    Kostopolous, Dandenault, Brisebois, Begin, Smolinski, Hamrlik, Lapierre and Latendresse.

    With the exception of Hamrlik, the bulk of the “talent” on this team is in the first group of players. So, our big-guns are not showing up for the playoffs. And this team has been carried since game 1 by third and fourth line players. That works against Boston because they are a low skill team with lots of heart, but it won’t work against any other team.

    I’d say that Kovalev, Komisarek, Gorges, and a few others are playing at about their regular season intensity.

    Kovalev is somewhat of an exception, skill-wise. But one has to wonder the kind of an effect it has on the team when the guy wearing the C doesn’t listen to the coach, takes very long shifts, and takes two retaliatory penalties in the series (he didn’t get caught last night).

    Let’s hope they bounce back in Game 6.

  16. #17 Joseph says:
    April 18, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Guys, Carbonneau isn’t playing mind games with this team or the Bruins. He felt that the Habs could get the job done in the absence of Koivu and Bouillon, and thus he gave them both more time to get healthy (rather than rush them back too soon and risk a more serious injury). These were his words, and they make sense.

    As to last night’s failure to close the series, it was both unfortunate and concerning. The Bruins looked defeated in the first period. Their play was sloppy and they were more or less there for the taking. The Habs should have rolled over them and established a bigger lead than 1-0. But their offensive struggles continued and they failed to bury a near dead team. And in the second period, when the Habs looked as if they were actually trying to protect a 1-0 lead for two full periods (insane), they allowed Boston back into the game. The Bruins gained confidence and converted a powerplay opportunity, and with a Price mishap to start the third, the flood gates were open (a rare occurrence for the Bruins this season). Everyone knows the rest.

    The Habs showed no killer instinct at all last night, and that’s a major concern in these playoffs. If they do get by Boston, and I believe that they will, they are going to face a much more determined team in Philadelphia, and one that has no problem scoring goals. But then, the Flyers have no problem giving up goals either, so who knows. However…

    First thing’s first. Price and the Habs need to delete Game 5 from memory and play a perfect road game in Boston on Saturday. They also need to play with some conviction and capitalize on their opportunities. If they do this, this series will most certainly end in 6. If they fail to do this, however, then Montreal will lose this series much more than Boston will actually win it.

    Forget 1st in the East, forget the #1 offense and powerplay, forget the regular season altogether. It’s time to see what this team is truly made of.

  17. #18 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 11:51 am


    “Now I consider Ryder to be lazy and useless, but he had a chance to redeem himself in the playoffs and he’s been absolutely pathetic”.

    Your comment is just plain absurd. Do you even read you comments before you post them?

    When Kovy went through his slump last year. Did he only get 6-8 mins. a game? No! He got he got his regular shifts and mins.

    How in the hell do you expect a slumping player like Ryder to gain confidence by taking him off of the PP and giving him 6-8 mins a game. There are few players that are doing quat on the PP since the playoffs has started.

    Carbo is an IDIOT plain a simple as that.

    A nice way to treat a one of the top Goal Scorers for the past three to four years. It shows no class for Carbo. No class at all.

  18. #19 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 11:54 am

    I couldn’t agree more, Joseph.

    If we kept skating like this, we would’t be ready to compete with Flyers. The Flyers has been playing super good, especially the booed D Briere.

    There are a lot of problems, such as Plekanec, Ryder, Latendresse not playing well, defense positioning and markup not good. etc… These are details. But as a whole team, they lack of “Leadership” and “Spirit”. That’s the reason SAKU and FRANCIS should be coming back to the lineups ASAP.

  19. #20 NothOntarioHabsFanatic says:
    April 18, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Excellent post Joseph. My thoughts in a nutshell.

  20. #21 rgillis says:
    April 18, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    I hate to say this, but in a way i agree with the Boston Fans on the fact that Montreal right now has no heart. The last 2 games have been not good at all, Price is the only reason they won game 4 and well we all know what happened last night.

    But, we are a much better road team anyway, we still just have to win 1 game, our pp has to get going, and off has to increase dramatically and we have to start moving our legs and not think that we can just roll over the Bruins easily.

    As for the physical play, we can stand up to the Bruins, without a doubt. Komi is a maniac when he gets going, and come on, Hamerlik is the best hitter for both teams combined. As for Boston, Chara is the only real physical presence they have and he is nothing but a lanky piece of dog $hit, he is worth less than my newborns foreskin.

  21. Ryder has earned a ticket out of town!Put in that Stewart kid and watch shit unfold,the kid has gumsion and that is in short demand right now.

  22. #23 JohnS says:
    April 18, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Hopefully last nights embarrassment serves as a big wake up call for these guys.

    I have counted 3 quality scoring chances in the last 2 games. Are the Bruins that good? Not in my opinion.

    If the Habs cant or dont put in a solid effort for game 6 they deserve to be hitting the golf course with the leafs and senators.

    Playoff hockey is all about making adjustments and in that regard coach Julien is putting on a clinic for Carbo.

    Win or lose though I was born on this bandwagon and I will die on this bandwagon!


  23. # 52 Tony from NB
    Posted on April 17th, 2008 at 11:24 pm. About ‘Habs / Bruins: Game 5’.

    Note to all Habs fans who have allowed me to express my “intelligent” opinion on this site over the last week:

    “Jrs and BsFan”…are a couple of ignorant douche bags..who make the rest of us look like a-holes….YOU ARE EMBARRASING ME!

    Price is an excellent goalie, who pretty much single handily won Games 2 & 4

    Tony from North Boston

    Tony from North of Boston, Wow, please do me a favor and pack your bags and head up 93 North, to 89 North until you hit the border! Stay in Canada. You are not a Bruins fan.

    How do I look like an asshole, when the Boston Bruins are basically willing their way through this series with a journeyman goaltender, and no scorers. Ok i will not say HEART and BALLS, because for this site it is too elementary.

    This series should have been over in Game 3, although the Bruins have decided to make this into a series. The reason why, here is educated answer. They are working the corners, playing sound defense and they are playing unreal on the penalty killing. This series is dead even, although the Bruins are doing more with less and Julien is creating a forechecking and backchecking system that allows them to cut of half the ice and causes the Canadiens to dump in when they would rather carry the puck in. The Bruins and Julien play this system is because other than the Begin and Kostopolous line, the HABS do not like to dig for pucks and do the dirty work in the corners to get them to the place they need to be.

    Carey Price, be careful HABS fans not to put to much pressure on this kid, Tony from NB, how can you saw a 20 year old is excellent, because of half a season and 4 games in a playoff series? He has the skills to be a great one, and I would LOVE TO HAVE HIM on the BRUINS! Although he is not proven at this level, has he played great yes. Although here is his weaknesses: MY EDUCATED ANALYSIS, he is a traditional butterfly goalie, he is extremely vulnerable on the blocker side upstairs as well as giving up huge rebounds of the pads. He plays with calm and poise, although his side to side movements from post to post is not that great! Now is Thomas better? HECK NO! he is crazy and gives me a heart attack! They are both playing well, yes, but please don’t tell me that this 20 year old kid is the next ROY or DRYDEN! They are hall of famer’s and you are really putting pressure on this kid. I remember you had another great goalie in the system JOSE THEODORE, he basically robbed us of the playoffs in 04, what happened then?

    Tony from NB are you a Bruins fan or a bandwagon fan! You probably became a Giants fan when the Pats lost in the Superbowl. Which the Giants deserved to WIN! We digress!

    HABS and BRUINS Saturday night…SERIES 3-2…Can you ask for anything more. I want to see a hungry HABS team and a hungry Bruins team! No more blowouts!


  24. #25 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Put Stewart in;
    Put Bouillon in;
    Put Saku in;
    Put Streit in.

    Bye, Brisebois, even though you are Carbo’s buddy and had a goal.
    Bye, Latendresse, improve your barber skill.
    Bye, Ryder, you will be traded this summer.

  25. #26 groundworking says:
    April 18, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    To compare Ryder with Kovalev is absolutely beyond absurd. Kovalev’s worst year was 47 pts, -19, Ryder’s great year last year is 58 pts, -25. Their skill levels are nowhere near comparable. In other words, Kovalev in a huge slump and in a crappy year contributed almost as much in the pts column as Ryder in another “great year” (and I agree, he was good before this year). So Ryder is no Kovalev.

    The problem with Ryder is that he quit. Not carbo. Ryder had plenty of chances to work his way back into the lineup. At the start of the year, he was slumping and working hard. Then he quit. He doesn’t backcheck, forecheck, hit, dig, set-up plays or score goals. So he’s probably the worst defensive liability on the team, the weakest back-checker, and he doesn’t score. That’s my definition (and Carbo’s definition, presumably) of a brutal season.

    So yeah, Ryder sucks. And Kovalev at his worst is better than 70% of the players in the NHL.


    “Now I consider Ryder to be lazy and useless, but he had a chance to redeem himself in the playoffs and he’s been absolutely pathetic”.

    Your comment is just plain absurd. Do you even read you comments before you post them?

    When Kovy went through his slump last year. Did he only get 6-8 mins. a game? No! He got he got his regular shifts and mins.

  26. #27 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Who will be the “New Whipping Boy” next Season? I thought that Montreal had Class. Not Any more. Carbo will do the same to Price as he did to Ryder. Gainey better watch out next Season.


  27. #28 groundworking says:
    April 18, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Don’t get me wrong, Ryder CAN comeback with another team next year and regain his form. I hope he does. I should say he was brutal this year. He lost confidence and quit. Not Carbo’s fault. I mean, having watched an entire season, Ryder was the first this year to quit on the puck (give up on the back-check, change after 30 seconds on an odd-man rush, etc. etc.) Ryder is not a whipping boy, like Kovalev, because he isn’t, and never was, as central to the team. But the only injustice the Habs did to Ryder this year was not trading him.

  28. #29 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    The only reason I am still watching this Team is because of PRICE.

    Except for last night, Price can do No better than he has. He has keep the Habs in long enough to destroy the Bruins. It is the players that need to step up. Not Price. Plekanec is not the only one “Playing like a little Girl”.

  29. #30 alex marks says:
    April 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    we are doomed i say

  30. #31 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    In Price I trust!

    Celebrate Price’s victory; Tolerate Price’s loss… Keep going in playoff, just go deeper where you can go.

    Go Price!

  31. #32 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    If Habs lost Game 6, I would raise the topic of replacing Guy Carboneau by Kirk Muller in the Habsnation world.

    (Sorry, I am still trying to recover from last night’s)

  32. #33 JohnS says:
    April 18, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Koivu may return for Saturday!

    Lets keep our fingers crossed.

    Even if he only plays on the power play that should give the team a lift.

    As much as I admire Kovalev I dont think he is cut out to be wearing the C.

  33. Pissed off Habs fan,is that you Ice Man ???????….lol.Jres are you Don F Cherry?????….lol,,,,your team is on hour glass time Bozo and after saturday it’s Tea time for you when the sand hits bottom.Bring a towel cause you will be wearing Boston Cream Pie on your puss,fu@ker….lol..OLE….OLE…OLE…

  34. #35 Pissed off Habs Fan says:
    April 18, 2008 at 3:03 pm


  35. #37 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Sorry, Ice Man, for too much negative rating on your loved Ryder. At least we have the common loved: Price!

  36. #38 JohnS says:
    April 18, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Verry puzzled why this team was not on the ice practising today?

  37. #39 jres says:
    April 18, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Xtrahabsfan : O gay, O gay, O gay! Love that song! LOL…


    It’s TEE Time and I love Boston CREAM PIE ON MY FACE!!!

    Love the rivalry!

    You guys have a nice weekend!

  38. #40 jres says:
    April 18, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Also HABS fans, Ryder is a fine player, we will will trade you Glen, “can’t friggin skate” Murray for him any day!

    You can keep Latendresse! he sucks!

    He is only on your team because of his last name!

    Higgins, now that is a player, tough hard nosed, with a ton of skill. You need more players like him!

  39. #41 habs4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    In general, jres, we have to digest rivalry’s comments in the opposite way. But for Higgins, I couldn’t deny you. Bob Gainey has been preparing long term contracts for Higgins and Komisarek to sign on…

    You have a good weekned, too!

  40. #42 PACTUM SERVA says:
    April 18, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Boston is done like dinner tomorrow. I wonder how long chara’s custom made golf clubs are? Now don cherry and mark savard can go hump all the hockey sticks they want. Off to the second round boys GO HABS GO

  41. #43 rhabs4real says:
    April 18, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Koivu is definitely playing tomorrow!

  42. #44 Dancan81 says:
    April 18, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    A few posts out there blasting Ryder, I couldn’t agree more. However everybody forgets about Chris “the Ghost” Higgins! WTF has he done! Sorta having the same series as Dany Coastley. Higgins is not producing any scoring chances, not hitting and not getting any flak for it. All year he’s been underachieving and nothing has changed. So Higgins, Pleks, markov, ryder ect.. Pick it up already and move on to the next round. Go Habs!

  43. #45 Joseph says:
    April 18, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    According to everything I’ve read, Koivu will be a game day decision. He’s feeling better and pushing harder, but he doesn’t yet know if he’s in game shape.

  44. #46 h4life says:
    April 18, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    “If he says he’s ready,” said Carbonneau. “He’s not a rookie. He’s been hurt before.

    “He’s been in this league long enough to know what he needs to do and what he can do. I don’t see a problem.”

    Carbonneau has kicked ball to Koivu. Saku will be on ice 120% sure tomorrow.

  45. I apologize for the ridiculous antics of a dumb Bruins fan, we are not all like that idiot.

    I watched game 2 in Montreal and I got a LOt of shit, but i certainly did not get beaten up.

    I want to apologize on behalf of the B’s and their fans. I hope for a great series and I love your province.

    Au Revoir!

  46. Bruins Fan,the Belle Provence welcomes you to stay awhile and soak in two great cultures and one GREAT LAND,never say bye just say hello!

  47. #49 rhabs4real says:
    April 18, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    rangers finished off the devils in 5 games because they have the killer instinct, unlike the habs. look for a NY-Philly final, with Philly vs SJ for the cup.

  48. #50 Senet 1 says:
    April 18, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Well I guess I getting in on the conversation a little late but after reading some of these blogs HABS fans only becaue those two Boston idiots well enough said because they are not worthy of my comments. Anyhow, how many of you guys watch Junior Hockey. Well at times that is what I see in this team. It is a very young team, that right how lacks leadership something I posted before. A young team plays inconsistent. Always have and Always will. Without the leadership they tend to let down. That is what I saw in last nights game. Had they played the entire game the way they played the first period, Boston would be playing golf now. So as much as I think it is a mistake for Kiovu to play Saturday night I see where Carbo has no choice we need his leadership. Kovalev is not providing it and neither is Markov. The players out there that are providing the leadership are Hamrlik, Somlinski’s whole line, even Price to a certain extent. One of the blogs pointed out the skilled players that were not playing up to expectation, take a look at their nationality. That is why when it came to trade deadline I was looking for one second line canadian player and one defenseman a canadian that could provide the leadership needed. I have said it once and I will say it again, the Stanley cup does not mean the same thing to Euros as it does to Canadian/ North American players. That is why teams with these types of player show up come playoff time and teams with too many Euros struggle. Now I like the Euros and we need their skill but we need a Canadian player to step up and lead this team on the ice and in the dressing room.

    When we get by Boston and I still believe we will, I also see us getting past Philly. They are exactly the same type of team as Boston, only I do not think they have as good of goaltending and their defense is slow. I believe if we come out of this series healthy then we can also take Philly. As far as Pittsburg is concerned, they will have their hands full with NYR and I give us a 50-50 chance of beating them because they play the same type of game that we play and as long as we are skating we can beat any team in this conference. But lets get past the Bruins first and lets get some leadership back on the ice.

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